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Fiberglass Work in the Bilge - Ep. 17 - Sailing Moxie

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Sailing Moxie

Sailing Moxie

5 жыл бұрын

I do a small fiberglass project in the bilge of the forward berth to allow water to drain more easily. Exciting stuff! A little messy.
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@gman9945
@gman9945 5 жыл бұрын
Lots of hard work ahead! Keep up the good job.
@johnanderson3842
@johnanderson3842 2 жыл бұрын
A quick tip. Cut the bristles of the brush a little short to stiffen them. That helps with “tapping “ out air bubbles in the Layup
@SailingMoxie
@SailingMoxie 2 жыл бұрын
Very good point. Thank you for letting me know. I have some more fiberglass work ahead in the near future. That should help the process.
@johnbolongo9978
@johnbolongo9978 5 жыл бұрын
Nicely done.....
@jackpatteeuw9244
@jackpatteeuw9244 5 жыл бұрын
MORE please !
@allynonderdonk7577
@allynonderdonk7577 5 жыл бұрын
I saw your hat in the video. You must like Moxie cola too!!
@SailingMoxie
@SailingMoxie 5 жыл бұрын
Allyn, you're the first one to make a comment about the hat! Yes, I do love Moxie cola. It's an acquired taste, but I buy it regularly. I went to buy some here at my Publix in Florida two days ago, and it looks like they don't sell it anymore (in bottles). It hasn't been there for 2-3 months. I may have to call around to other stores or order the cans from the company online. I'm glad someone finally noticed. I actually have a bottle on my desk at work. The cola is where the name Moxie came from, of course, so that's why I wear the hat on occasion. Once I can find more bottles, you may see one appear in a future episode. -Matt
@allynonderdonk7577
@allynonderdonk7577 5 жыл бұрын
@@SailingMoxie Yes it is all over the north in the custom cola sections. Yeah you have to drink a bit of it to like it but once you drink enough you are hooked.
@Sqeezerful
@Sqeezerful 5 жыл бұрын
Can you feel inside the hole? What material is in there? I have seen lots of boats that reveal bare plywood in the drains. That spoils the wood quite nicely over time hence rendering the core to mush. Standing water in fiberglass isn't dramatic as it could be in a steel boat.
@SailingMoxie
@SailingMoxie 5 жыл бұрын
I think it was bare plywood inside that drain area. I believe, like you said, that the wood inside turned to mush. What is left is the fiberglass layer over the wood. I'll look inside with a light and see if I can clean out some of that wood. I may just have to leave it. But yeah, bare plywood inside, as far as I can tell. Once I put down the bilge paint, I'll be ok with a few drops of standing water over it. That bilge paint will add the additional protective barrier in that bilge area.
@Sqeezerful
@Sqeezerful 5 жыл бұрын
@@SailingMoxie Well that is not good news. Once the wood is wet, the rot will go on. Bilge paint sound for me like "painting over rust". I am not sure how crucial the coring material is. Assuming it is not structural you could let it rot and/or glass over it. If it is structural you might want to consider to rebuild the rotten sections. Thats a not so easy task as these sections are typically covered or blocked by interior elements making a otherwise simple job rather complex.
@SailingMoxie
@SailingMoxie 5 жыл бұрын
I think whatever wood was there has pretty much rotted away. It's not structural. The fiberglass frame is holding things together pretty solidly. I don't think the wood was meant to last forever, and it's not sandwiched between layers of fiberglass - no rotted core. I'll remove any rotted wood as I can reach it. I applied my first coat of bilge paint this past weekend in that V-berth area. I only applied it over fiberglass that I had sanded down and wiped clean, so I'm not painting over any rotted wood. All the fiberglass I painted over was pretty solid, despite the boat being 38 years old now!
@Sqeezerful
@Sqeezerful 5 жыл бұрын
@@SailingMoxie Here is Mads going super scientific about a very similar problem with his boat: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/btOXltZ6x5nFmac.html I think his concern is more that the structural members actually rely on coring material and he wants to glass over them. (First 5 or so minutes in the video) Maybe that is an inpiration. It's good that the fiberglass is solid. If that is failing at the structural members -it proves that something is significantly wrong.
@juliosayala-perez3861
@juliosayala-perez3861 3 жыл бұрын
Hi im fixing the interior of my hunter 316 what type of mask did you use
@SailingMoxie
@SailingMoxie 3 жыл бұрын
I used a filtered respirator from Home Depot. 3M. Any time I use epoxy or paint I use a respirator with charcoal filters.
@johnburkett521
@johnburkett521 5 жыл бұрын
What ever happened with that amazing trimaran?
@SailingMoxie
@SailingMoxie 5 жыл бұрын
I sold that tri a little over a year ago. I'll put out a video soon about the fact that I sold it and some of the lessons I learned from it. It would have been an awesome boat if I had been able to move it to Florida.
@adriansayers7002
@adriansayers7002 4 жыл бұрын
Knee pads, mine are f***ed after years of working on my knees i now double up on pads but too little too late, look after yourself you only get one set of knees!!
@SailingMoxie
@SailingMoxie 4 жыл бұрын
Good advice! Thanks!
@popeye1511
@popeye1511 5 жыл бұрын
Not a big deal but you keep saying you are using epoxy to wet out the glass when I believe you are using polyester resin. That gallon container of fiberglass resin with the Bondo name on it is polysester resin. Any way enjoy your videos. :-)
@SailingMoxie
@SailingMoxie 5 жыл бұрын
Hi pop eye. So I did a little research before I posted this video just to make sure I was getting the terminology right. When the resin and hardener are separate (before mixing), I refer to the epoxy resin and hardener as two separate things. Once mixed, I called the mixture "epoxy." At that stage (during the wetting out), it is mixed epoxy (resin and hardener together), but it has not cured into a solid yet. That's why I said I was wetting the area out with epoxy (uncured epoxy at that point). Just wanted to clarify that. I was trying to get the terms right. At no point was I wetting out the glass with just the resin. The hardener had already been mixed in. In my mind, it becomes epoxy once the two components are mixed together. The uncured epoxy is liquid - it only takes a few minutes to harden. Thank you for watching the videos! And thanks for the comment. I definitely want to use the right terms in my videos. I hope I explained things correctly here.
@popeye1511
@popeye1511 5 жыл бұрын
@@SailingMoxie Thanks for your reply. It tells me I didn't communicate very well. :-) . There are essentially two main ways to bond fiberglass together for the DIY boatworker. Those ways are with polyester(vinyester) resin mixed with with a hardener called MEKP, or methyl ethyl ketone peroxide. The second common way is with epoxy resin with the appropiate hardener. Both have advantages and disadvantages. For the most part your boat, the Hunter, was fabricated with polyester( maybe vinyester in some areas) resin, not epoxy. In your video that gallon container with the Bondo fiberglass resin name is a polyester resin, not an epoxy resin as you are calling it. Contact your supplier to confirm this. Only trying to help. You don't want to use a material in an inappropriate way and it comes back to haunt you. Enjoy your videos and have fun. Not trying to be picky or trolling.
@SailingMoxie
@SailingMoxie 5 жыл бұрын
Ah, got it, pop eye. What I was using is chemically different from epoxy. Got it. I was lumping it under the umbrella of "epoxy," but it's actually a totally different chemical make-up. Thanks for clarifying that. My bad. Thank you for watching the videos as well. I appreciate the comments and advice! -Matt
@Strengthinlumbers
@Strengthinlumbers 5 жыл бұрын
Sailing Moxie , love the videos love the boat. I've had my eye on the Hunter 54 for a while, so your videos are very interesting to me. As someone who has done a fair amount of fiberglass work, I know there is a learning curve. Just as Pop eye, I hope to be helpful and my intent is not to be critical of your work. In general, when bonding new material to old, use epoxy resin. As your repair is "superficial" and not structural, it isnt a big deal, though the repair may delaminate at some future date which will create a place to trap water. Again, with this repair, not really a big deal. One other thought, when you lay up fiberglass, you can use resin just enough to "wet out" the glass. There should generally be just enough resin to make the glass clear, but it shouldn't be swimming in resin. If you have too much resin to glass as a ratio, the resin will be prone to cracking. I'm probably explaining it poorly. Anyway, if you find the need to do more fiberglass work, "boatworks today" on KZfaq is a great resource. Also, "sail life" on You Tube will probably give you ideas too. Great work man. Keep up the great work. Can't wait to see what you do next with this beautiful boat!
@SailingMoxie
@SailingMoxie 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome. Thanks for the comments and advice. After reading pop eye's comments, I've been looking more at various marine epoxies: West System, TotalBoat, etc. I will switch to using epoxy for future work on the boat. I'll use the Bondo resin for small standalone pieces or small fixes. Thank you for the detailed advice on fiberglass work as well. I will be doing a lot more fiberglass work as the refit continues.
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