XD omg

It has Fiber in it's name, so it must be healthy

Its_Elkku logic

LOOOOOOOLLLL

Relevant: Google Fiber kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qMtgibV8m9XZp30.html

vwestlife Yeah I found a timeline for that stuff, but we're not really using the stuff that was deployed so early and it wasn't as widespread.

Techquickie he is still correct. They deployed the copper for a reason

+vwestlife Ayyy!!

+Techquickie Somebody need to learn their Bell System history. :-D

Relax, the point is, we've had copper infrastructure for a while now, and we still don't have fiber.

monopolies and knowing people have enough money that they can milk people to that extent

+Cip Ama that's because 20 years ago romania didnt even have phone lines, thing's have been recently installed. the copper cables in europe have been there since the 60s-70s and have gotten old and broken, and replacing them with fiber takes alot of money.

minitos1 I don't think that't the case. First telephone line was installed in Romania in 1881. I think is more about true capitalism , which in my opinion in most countries "capitalism" is just a pure theoretical concept, and reality is that big corporation own the market, since there is no competition they can increase prices as much as they want. I remember my first phone internet modem back in 1995 was kind of expensive.

Cip Ama Ah okay, I've heard about this happening to alot of countries around europe though.. thats why I'm saying it.

+Cip Ama Nah where I live in Canada theres tons of people and its $569/month

aLte I have hughnet I get 10 down 1 up and 10 gig's of data after that I get 500 kps down 100 kps up even with I have data I can't play games online cause my ping can go from 600-1000 ping I always 1 bar I used shorty copper to its way better than sattelite I would be grateful for that because it's usable

zach.843 I get 200 kilobytes down with my internet. I want to die

I get 35 mbps with vdsl

750mbps for me

Copper is good it's just shit for any sort of distance

I know eh I DEMAND NBN

The whole of New Zealand is getting fitted out with fibre. In fact most cities and towns are already on ADSL2 at 50MPS. Just a dig at our Aussie friends ;) (it's for all the sheep shagger jokes).

Hahaha well I get around 500-700 KBps (500 average) and a friend of mine has NBN which is 1MBps and the time difference to download e.g. 6gb is massive

SS_ TropicThunder www.speedtest.net/result/4007966416.png

Ashley Bengtson what about it

Lmao 😂😂😂😂😂

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@@MaxCE I literally tried to unlike my own comment just to get it there but it didn't let me. :(

Hi how are u

SLI ?

Yep i got fibre straight into my house. But i'm also living in the Netherlands. :D Cheap and high speed :D

Correct. The whole country is being connected to fiber now. I have it too now and it's 10 x faster and costs only half of my previous provider.

Ja leuk snelle internet van KPN he. Ziggo is wel slecht met coax

If you wanted that, then you should have went over to TekSyndicate.

Teslamonger I was unaware they did tekquickie. Its not like linus hasn't talked about it before. He has bashed them plenty on the WAN show but not everyone watches the WAN show.

If you go out, start an ISP, and make enough money; then you can roll them out as quickly as you wish. Let us know how that goes.

Not living the US, I'm wandering what this ISP you speak of is?

Double - N Internet Service Provider

AKA Commonwealth

Robert Crawshaw French Canadians* -- Of course we should.

Is this from misused tech terms when the top comment was a spelling debate?

Robert Crawshaw no its a small part no one speaks french in canada

Aye big fan here

Pretty sure Australian internet is so slow it's going back in time 😂 -3mbps

Tasmania: (that small island near Australia that somehow is part of Australia) FTTP is still slow!

We voted LNP, we get what we voted for

rufioh trust me he still does a lot of stupid stuff

Yes. 300,000 KM/s is only in a complete vacuum.

Timothy Lastovica Oh, I remember now :P Thanks.

It's exactly 186,000 m/s

John DeBrino umm youtube comments is not the real world.... good answer thought

LapX You also have to take into consideration that the path light travels in a fiber optic cable is never going to be straight. Rather the light is constantly bouncing off the sides of the fiber which in turn adds distance to the path it is taking. So while a length of cable might be 2m, the total distance the light travelled through the cable would be closer to 3m

Well making the tiny glass tubes is actually relatively expensive I would guess since they have to be the same thickness all the way through

the glass tubes are just glass, they're less expensive than copper, as copper is a rarer material than glass. I know this because I've worked with Network Installation specialists, who specifically manage copper and fibre connections.

General Echo Ah, ok. I don't have that kind of experience. But that makes sense. Thanks for the clarification.

Tyler Eberhardt No problem

General Echo thats not how it works the procesing of such a flexible glass fiber is what ups the cost

Sant

america NOW does too lol

@@EddiePassions Not in many places.

@@tgm9991 here in atlanta yes. but i'm getting 500-700 sometimes 900 and i'm paying 1000mpbs $70

@@EddiePassions 900-1000Mbps here, paying $12.

They have VDSL in Ireland which is better than Copper, which it can reach 100mpbs, Ireland is a prime example of an internet connected country compared to the Uk which is lacking behind, luckily BRSK FTTP is coming soon in my area instead of rip-off Virgin

True true. Next thing is that a new technology may come around. But also, ISPs better upgrade to fibre when maintainance is being done.

Jack Carlos ISPs make a 97% profit margin. It's been mentioned before on one of Linus's livestreams

MinecraftEpicPlayer Are you dumb? You just hear a number and blurt it out? That number might be what your first Google search gets you, but that doesn't include any of the costs to build a network and maintain it. Since 1996, Time Warner has spent $200 billion dollars building their network. Most people think you can just "turn on" the internet, but there's a lot of labor and money needed to do so.

Jack Carlos then how come Google Fiber is able to do so well?

MinecraftEpicPlayer Google Fiber is brand new and is starting in small areas with dense populations. They don't need to "replace" anything like copper. Everything they put in the ground is profit. Just think if Comcast only focused on 20 major cities across the US - those 20 cities would have amazing speeds.

I know its over 6years since your comment, but.. "Starlink says HELLO WORLD to your local ISP"

@@RandomTheories I can't wait until Starlibk fucks over these ISP providers and they have to start seriously upgrading their lines with Fiber optic. And cheaper prices as well, but that's more wishful thinking.

One big problem is that in city centres it is very hard/expensive to lay all the fibre in the ground in the first place, not to mention if you need a kind of "substation" to distribute the signal. Where I live (northwest Norway) almost everyone except the people in the city centres have fibre due to this. In general, Norway has a really high rollout of fibre, even FTTH, which is almost unheard of in America. It's just too expensive in the city centres.

Elderly people need more fiber in their diet.

Australia spent $50billion and its shit

Strange. Only one Cyrillic letter per number.

Propa beast ain’t he son

Someone else must we using it or something.

Yes, but you still don't have freeways or decent long distance transportation.

Cristian Nicolae Yep :) that's why ive said "atleast we are good at 1 thing" cuz we suck at the others :)

Almost the same situation here in Bulgaria, but worse! :D

Cristian Nicolae Says a Romanian. :c

Mihai ▲ ẞlvck Natives know this better thn anyone :P. PS: never go to the toilet in a Romanian train.

It will, this kind of stuff has been in Europe for years, it's just a matter of when people will decide to dig up the current network, and put in the new one, probably around 5-7 years in the future, but typically everyone over estimates Google...

+wtblack5 longer than that do you how many rural areas there are.

+Danny Billy yes, what's your point? Fiber wires can be connected via power lines, like phone lines...

wtblack5 Stfu if you don't get it.

+Danny Billy umm... apparently you don't get it either...

Good for you :(

and here I am with a shitty 1mb connection that can barely handle one 360p video. I should have been born in Singapore :(

we'll have this in Germany too... in 1 billion years.

Same thing here in Sweden. Fibre is so spread throughout the country that the cable tv channels now are transitioning over to broadcasting with IPTV services and cable is slowingly being shut down. Fibre is even being built out to the country outsid towns so even small towns now are being covered by fibre. Entire sweden will be covered by fibre soon and the speed are amazing. I hope you guys in the US gets fibre widespread soon cause its totally unbeatable hen it comes to stability and performance.

+krister olofsson i doubt the US will get ANYTHING like that anytime soon :( atleast affordable... The internet provides here are greedy as fuck and the best my family can afford is 1mb... i cant download a game without my parents netflix stuttering. its such bullshit :(

repeat after me: FUCK THE LNP

That would be great.

I wonder what a fiber motherboard would be able to do, instead of copper traces.

The Gentleman Sandwich not a dammed thing

Not sure about salta cables but they are trying to make circuit boards light based.

The Gentleman Sandwich ...Fiber isn't conductive. Please take a 101 on electrical engineering. That's just a silly comment.

thats some download speed right there

10 gigabit? So everyone has VERY expensive switches with a 10 gbit NIC instead of a normal router with a 1 gbit nic?

1tb download speed? Are you that old lady that lives in the Netherlands with the son that owns an internet company?

FoodOnCrack I don't know. I'm just saying what the letter I got from my ISP said they were going to do (and have done now) and that we should expect internet outages for a few hours. STZY Bruh 1Tbps for a neighbourhood with 600 houses (theoretical max download speed of 1.7 Gbps per house, but each house has a cable capable of 10 Gbps, or so they say).It's unlikely that my neighbourhood would get 1 Gbps download per house for a few years.

STZY Bruh Their BACKBONE was upgraded to 1 Tbps.

Gotta love it when it takes a week

Got to love it when it on copper and fast lol

Gotta love replying with the phrase "gotta love"

That's not how quantum entanglement works.

octet33 In mass effect it does :D

+Mazaroth Sorry to burst your bubble but... The world isn't a video game.

😫 i'm still struggling with 512kbps. 1Gbps sounds like what a whole city is using

@@awoo1622 oh wow, where do you live?

I have 12 mb/s down, 1 mb/s up

I use copper and I get 80 down, 20 up

A DDOS is not a hack because all it takes is a group of computers being remotely controlled from a different location sending massive amounts of information/requests to another computer until it can no longer accept and process any of the information. Anyone who has access to a botnet (a bunch of computers that are remotely controlled that you can actually rent) and a script that are easily available on the web can do this. (Hence the term script-kiddies) Hacking on the other hand means using software or hardware exploits to change aspects of how that computer works, and means actually looking at or changing actual computer code in order to access those exploits. TekSyndicate have a bit of information about what a DDOS and why it isn't actual hacking is on their latest The Tek video.

Cause DDOS is a attack not an hack.

A DDOS attack is a bunch of 12 year olds getting together and thinking that it's "fun" and "productive" to send millions of HTTP/FTP/SSH/etc requests to servers. No, it's not a hack.

There is DoS and DDoS. DoS means Denial of Service, which is a state of a server when it ceases to respond to client requests in a regular fashion. DoS attacks can be sent from a computer, or a small group of computers, with a fast internet connection. You basically launch as many threads as you can, and tell each one to request something from a server (like a web page or a large image). With certain exploits you can send specific requests that will take longer than usual to process, so you won't need a lot of resources for such an attack. An example is a PHP vulnerability a while back, that resulted in a lot of memory being consumed when you post a certain set of keys to the server. Anyway, DoS attacks are easily killed by just banning the IP of the attacker. Automatic bans can be easily made, if the server makes a visit statistic to determine if an IP hogs a lot of the server resources (then it's probably trying to DoS). Now, DDoS are a whole different story. It is distributed, which means that IPs from all over the world will perform this attack. Usually these are hijacked computers (using trojans), that make only a few requests, so the owner wouldn't suspect anything, or wouldn't care. But their number is so high, that the flow of requests is too much for a server to cope with. How do computers get infected? Well, it's a biosphere. People want software, that costs money, but they want it free. Some people reverse engineer, or get leaked info from the software manufacturers, that allows them to make cracks, keygens and stuff like that. They don't do it for free of course. They include some scrip there that would take simple remote commands. Now they have a botnet, that they could rent to people for money. Who rents them - script kiddies or people with a grudge that want to do industrial sabotage. Sometimes by hackers that use this as one of the steps in their attacks. And cracks/keygens are not the only source of these trojans. Free programs all over the internet, that are useful, often have sponsors that get to include their shit into the installer, and sometimes that shit is some real shit if you know what I mean. I got my share of shit from programs like Orbit Downloader, Freemake , you get the idea. Just be careful what you're installing, what they're trying to push with that, and verify after the install that there is no new shit on your computer that shouldn't be there. That's why you shouldn't do crack. I mean you shouldn't use cracks and keygens for software you use. Find a free alternative, pay for it, or don't use it. But if you really must and there is no other way, try to sandbox that shit. Have a virtual machine to run the keygens in (use VirtualBox - it's free, and you can install trial versions of Windows on it), copy the generated key and use it in your main computer. Cracks are not possible to isolate however. If it's a program you rarely use - put in in a virtual machine as well, and start that machine when you need this program. Keep your computer clean, don't be a part of a botnet.

A DDoS attack should not be considered a 'hack' - because there is generally no compromise or exploit of a system. It's just a bunch of systems ganging up and making as many requests as possible to a system. There is nothing wrong with your web browser requesting www.youtube.com. It is a problem if a billion computers all try to request www.youtube.com as rapidly as possible, repeatedly. This is a DDoS. DDoS is often executed with a 'botnet' of compromised systems - that were indeed affected by some kind of 'hack'. Illicit individuals or organizations will rent out these botnets for fees, or use them for their own whims. Sometimes, (like with DNS/NTP amplification attacks) just one or a relatively small number of systems can exploit the legitimate purpose of a protocol for unintended purposes - here there is potentially no botnet, and the attacker leverages a collection of otherwise secure servers owned by private companies and governments. In these cases places like universities and government research centres with 10Gbps+ internet connections were tricked into sending gigabits of traffic at victims.

I live in Latvia and I know that copper is more common here, but we have way faster internet than you guys.

Professional Medic Well copper is not slow.

I live in Norway and it is very varying speeds here. A half hour away from where I live the top speed is 5 mbps on copper. Where I live they are currently building fiber networks supporting up to 1gbps and the absolute fastest connection can reach 10 gbps but none have ordered it anyways and it is only available to very special customers.

No it doesn't.. I'll still have to wait a few months to get my fibre connection..

You can still have copper if you have Malcolm Turdbull, and his cronies as your government, who say that "New copper technologies" are better.

I KNOW!

20 years? HAHAHAHAHA if Abbott can help it, it will be 50+ years. So short sighted.

So True

Dude...I feel your pain and I'm from Malaysia

Does the Internet suck there too???

Yes but it has vectoring.

Fr0zzen it still is 250Mbit... Technology doesn't matter for most people...

+vf fa i have copper and only get 1.5mbs

Danny Billy lel... Where do u live?

vf fa 1.5 MB or 12 mbps and a small as town.

att right?

Epic Gaming W/Miguel No

yeah 47 dollars a month for 3mbps fuck att im switching to comcast next month. actually fuck all these monopolizing greedy companies they always do overcharge because there isn't much competition since they pretty much guarantees smaller competitor's non existence by buying them and also lobbying the congress and shit. comcast's offer is still way better though. for about the same price i get more than 3 times my current speed. 3mbps to 10mbps. maybe even further upgrade to 25mbps next year.

90$ monthly for 5dl and 1 up.. -_-

+Gabe Miller new cable company has 100mbps for $34

lol!

wooooo

under 301 with FTTH, yay

Hail gaben

Same here