Let's make a petition to George to reedit that part for a next release. :D

Luke is a newb. He's going to have bad form. Vader is a cripple using fake limbs. He's going to have bad form. And we don't know how heavy lightsabers are and how they react to eachother, plus the Force is involved. Vader is toying with Luke. It's ALL understandable.

Hook vs pan. Damn it. I want a real match. This or Igdigo vs.Wesley..... Stop toying with us.

@@jeremiahholley2873 oooh hook vs pan. Fuck spielberg saying he hated hook. That movie is gold

@@jeremiahholley2873 Took me a second to reject the idea of a hook striking a frying pan.

Illidan Stormrage - "YOU ARE NOT PREPARED !"

Almost. XD Luke didn't have his father's arrogance. At least to the same extent. He didn't believe that he should be able to do anything, and didn't underestimate Vader as poorly as Anakin did Dooku.

@@DigitalVanquish You mean as Anakin did Palpatine. As Yoda said, "Do not underestimate the powers of the emperor, or suffer your fathers fate, you will."

*After Luke takes off from Dagobah* Obi-Wan: “You at least told him to take sand with him right?”

@@goldenstatewarriors9418 No, I meant Dooku. Ep II, where he ended up losing his arm.

With a movie from the 80s, saying everything bad is supposed to be that bad deliberately would probably give the movie too much credit. But look fighting in a flailing style and Vader casually blocking with little effort probably is deliberate. It just makes perfect sense for the characters in that scene. I think this is a case in which the best that they could do just happens to be good enough for what the scene calls for. The question is if they could have done much better if they had wanted to. Which based on the next fight in Return of the Jedi I think they might not.

“All too easy.” -Darth Vader, 3 ABY

@@thatsruffdog "Impressive. Most impressive. But you are no Jedi yet."

True Vader was never trying to hurt him just piss him off, basically playing with him.

It's a father and his son playing around with swords, from Vader's POV. For that matter Vader is holding a defensive item in his left hand just in case: the force.

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@@pandorasangel2747 chad

@@pandorasangel2747 chad

@@pandorasangel2747 chad

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That’s not David prowse in the suit in this fight scene I think it’s Bob Anderson in the Vader suit you will notice that in the wide shots we don’t have a clear view of Vader’s helmet it’s because when Anderson was in the suit they made a special version of the helmet so he could see better

@@jordanreed3675 who is also 6" shorter than David Prowse, the fight scenes are recorded at different angles to distort his apperent hight.

Rest In Peace

David Prowse's best role was as the Green Cross Code Man.

Now this is Pod-racing

@@gokbay3057 *podracing

😂😂😂

🤣

"Where have I seen this form before...oh. No wonder my old master could easily dismember me. Is this really what I looked like?"

Having done fencing, I feel this very strongly. Whenever I go up against one of the instructors, I'm very focused doing a proper stance, looking to attack but also ready to jump back at a moment's notice. The instructor, on the other hand, will usually just do a lazy comfortable stand, cause they know they can parry whatever I do without much trouble :P

Indeed, the whole fight showcases the widely different levels of skill of both opponents and Vader's intention not to harm Luke (too much :) )

Also the camera work too when they light up the sabers we see it from Luke’s perspective the feeling of looking up to a mysterious figure standing there stoically while luke is nervously ready to strike

That slow red lightsaber activation - pure suspense gold!

and the lack of music at the beginning and then building up with the imperial march theme

I agree. I think Vader is telegrapging so much at the end not because he is serious or because he is toying with Luke. I think Vader is doing it to force Luke to block, scare him, and to finish off what is left of Luke's stamina and endurance. He doesn't want to kill Luke, but Vader has plenty of strength left and Luke whittles away to nothing by the end. Vader is trying to break Luke mentally and physically, so I think this works very well.

Mah dude just gets pissed. It happens to the best of us.

Vader after realising that he cannot be a jedi master now that he is a sith

*throws wrench*

That and: "And I already killed your mother, I'm not gonna kill you... but I will test you!"

Could be that even Vader got tired and frustrated he is wearing that suit. Even the telegraph makes sense when he switched to 2 hands, he didn't telegraph one handed but two handed the huge suit is forcing him to telegraph

@@Robert53area palpatine designed to be painful as hell. He wanted darth to be weak so if he tried anything palpatine could either shock him or duck weave and kill darth

Vader's impracticality came from incredible amounts of experience lmfao

That’s perfect

MOOD! XDXDXDXD

Ironic

Is that before or after the two-and-a-half-minute Audible ad? If you have sponsors, you don't need frickin' ads.

@@BennyLlama39 Well considering that KZfaq now puts ads in all videos regardless of monetization status this is sadly the new norm and it pisses off everyone that doesn't use a ad blocker or at least pays for KZfaq premium.

Yes.

That or when he landed ever a minor hit Vader finally decided to stop playing around and finish him.

that combined with vader being like “THAT HURT YOU LITTLE SHIT” and actually deciding to end it

What? But that's outrageous!

@@scottski02 It's unfair!

MechanicPluto24 take a seat young Skywalker

Vader: Listen here you little shit

*Need to nitpick intensifies*

I'm dead

I was thinking the same thing lol. "You're on this counsel, but we do not grant you the rank of master."

I was scrolling through the responses and saw this and at first I was like...what? Then it hit me....and I was almost rofl.

That's insulting. It's unfair!

We grant you the rank of commenter, but do not grant you the rank of pinned.

No I'd say your right that's what I was thinking too

So Vader, consumed with anger, underestimated someone which ended in that someone getting a very easy clear swing at him that he could've easily avoided if his pride didn't cloud his judgmenet... I think I saw this one before

@@Casual-Yohoho-Enjoyer you referring to kylo? cause no lol thats far different. Kylo was heavily injured, actually trying to win the fight. Vader was goofing the entire fight, but once luke showed he could actually land a hit, vader said “Okay that hurt you little shit!” and disarmed him in seconds.

@@dreemurrprince Nope, Anakin vs Obi-wan

@@Casual-Yohoho-Enjoyer oh thank god.

And also backs up the general mythos of the Sith using rage to fuel the dark side of the force. Vader is PISSED. He's infuriated that this whelp actually got a hit on him. Using his anger to fuel the force he then just dominates the rest of the fight cuz playtime was over.

@@thelightningrod Thank you for mentioning this. Thats one thing that the Bane trilogy shows. The more a Sith is hurt, the more dangerous he/she can become.

Yet he doesn't take the time to actually pull Luke away from the edge the instant he was down. Always thought it was funny he doesn't even bother, just let's him crawl away.

@@violetopal6264 I always took it as Vader still wanting him to do it of his own volition. What good is someone to rule by your side if you literally had to drag them to do it? No, he'd beat him down. Show him how powerless he is, show him how strong he COULD be if he joined the dark side... But it still had to be by choice.

It's not evidence of how powerful Vader is, any Jedimor Sith could have done that against episode V Luke

I wouldnt doubt that Anakin is so strong in the Force that it naturally enhances his physical strength without conscious effort, not to mention the cybernetics.

“Where is the diplomat? Oh whoops.”

@@admiralsand "If you're on a diplomatic mission, then where's the ambassador?"*

@@wilhelmtheconquerer6214 I was paraphrasing

And hopefully always will.

It does leave one to wonder why the jedi never use armor and Vader's the only sith to do so.

h0m3st4r don't forget darth revan 's helmet

@@h0m3st4r Jedi tend to prefer agility. If you can deflect shots with ease, armour isn't really needed, and would tire your out faster, so, its better for them to wear lighter clothing, so they can keep moving at their speed for longer. Vader wears armour because, he's 90% burn scar, and can't move as well as he used to. So he supplements his lack of agility by covering himself in armour

@@h0m3st4r I was always under the impression that the armor the Jedi wear in the Clone Wars is the same type as the one Vader has, at least the part that covers the chest and shoulders, becasue the design looks almost identical except for the color.

@@_chew_ Oh, right. I forgot about that.

I had interpreted it as, "at this point, Luke should've been better trained before he actually decides to fight Vader".

I interpretted it as "It's understandable he's making mistakes, but the ones he are making are far too often and far too egrigious

Yoda also seemed to focus more on Force training than lightsaber

Yoda taught Luke in the force, Obi Wan taught Luke to use a lightsaber and Luke learned basicly nothing aside for a small portion of blastdeflection on the falcon before Obi Wan sacrificed himself.

Reliable Source: There are small exceptions to a few number of jedi that did carry a handheld blaster as a sidearm. Such as Mara Jade Skywalker and Kyle Katarn... However, shortly after joining the Luke's new jedi order on Yavin 4, both opted to use lightsabers only... Mara Jade after saving Kyle from the dark side in mysteries of the sith and Kyle after Desanns defeat.

He would still know enough to teach Luke.

@@James35142 but it would be hard to properly teach someone without demonstrating it yourself I would imagine.

@@misterpig7739 why would you need a saber to swing air? Cant you swing air with a stick to demonstrate

“There is... another” -yoda

In the comics, Vader does that kind of stuff all the time

"Pathetic"- Darth vader

You could even have Vader pull the poke so it only burns Luke's face, Zuko-style, in keeping with the plot requirement that Vader lets Luke live...

@@adamwu4565 If star wars were made today, that would be an amazing meta joke

This is also one of my favourite things about him, among many other things. Weirdly enough though, I always found Dooku more intimidating. Maybe it's because of Vader’s sheer star power to the point of parody but I always felt Dooku intimidated his opponents in a more compelling way. He feels like a real person with a ridiculous amount of skill that will destroy you at will. His physical presence is so much more refined and casual. What's funny is that in both of these in which they're at their most intimidating they're essentially sparring against their opponents.

@@VinVonVoom because Christopher lee was a war hero and professional fencer, he felt like highly skilled person because he was, he also was Dracula for decades, he was simply perfect for the role of a veteran sith

Arctic Banana all too true but I’d like to add the Stormtroopers under his command are inspired by him and that Vader actually respects them for putting their lives on the line for duty. Can you imagine having Darth Vader by your side in battle, leading you all to victory?

Tiagorpg mendes apparently he went into detail with peter Jackson explaining exactly what someone being stabbed sounded like

@@VinVonVoom I mean, Vader does feel like a gothic corruption of Dooku. Like a man turned into myth, which he was.

Here's a bright idea from Jar Jar Abrams : don't have a lightsaber fight at all.

They just got some random baseball player to show them how to swing.

It's sad how correct this statement feels...

Nick Gillard the choreographer for the prequels was a dancing instructor.

@@mrmxyzptlk521 Feels? IS.

That is because the actors had to be more careful about their moves because they did not have very strong props or the camera skill.

Also.... This was done by Bob Anderson. The man behind almost every great sword fight from the 1950s to the 2000s and 5 time fencing Olympic medallist. The 2017 one, while done by very very good stuntmen ... Well they weren't Bob, put it that way

You have to care about your craft.

@@360Effects I did not know that. Thank you for telling me!

@kruzSTUDIO Historical European Martial Arts

Ironic

Kagé Dark He could save others from death, but not himself.

Just came down here to mention this

That doesn't make sense. Which lightsabers have negative or positive fields? I know that the darks aber has an opposing magnetic field. We only hear about the "pull" in Rebels, talking about the darksaber.

@@Iliadic i think lightsabers have positive and darksabers negative

@@ReiChiquita567 in obi wan vs anakin and obi wan vs grievous all wielders are using light side blades.

@@LucyWest370 dark positive energy ;)

ソフロニアス it’s just like Princess Bride when Inigo is fighting Westley; he gets exhausted to the point of getting sloppy and ends up getting frazzled by Westley flicking his hair and hitting the sword out of his hand. Luke is exhausted and barely able to hold his lightsaber, allowing Vader to easily disarm him (literally) before he can react.

That's exactly how I read the scene. Luke's way over-exerted himself by this point. I have no problem with the pause and actually think it does make it slightly more dramatic. Shad's cut (heh) though, does look super smooth and realistic - most impressive.

@pyropulse calm down maybe?....

i also felt he was trying to not lose the lightsaber, as if it was sliding off his hand

@Dan Cooke and when anakin was chopped in half and thrown into lava palpatine found him and turned him into a cyborg so in other words we already know that

Anakin was still pretty strong before his days as a Sith Lord as well.

Also the fact emanating specialised in the overpowering form 5 that he the. Adapted to add elements of form3 and 4 to help with his suits movement restrictions

@@AndreVeaseyJr His strikes were so strong that Obi-Wan thought that his arms were gonna break.

And a massively powerful force user.

Absolutely. Keep your lightsaber out if you might be attacked soon, but don't turn it on until the Force tells you someone is about to shoot at you/turn their lightsaber on.

Nerd

Everything about stormtroopers is wrong to me. In a way, this is a satire movie ploy. I mean, I would bet your average soldier(any army) in WWII could beat a stormtrooper. And did you see the scene in the Mandalorian? Those two couldn't hit an elephant 20 feet away!!! It's a wonder they can drive.

@@brigandineofdragons373 in the lore (not Disney fanfic lore btw) they are entirely disposable. Their armour is intended to intimidate more than be functional, because the Empire 'had no equal' to challenge it, or so the Empire thought. End of the day, it's a narrative function, not a realistic one, because it's meant to be, at least in part, a note on hubris.

@@brigandineofdragons373 I really don't know why people have so much issue with stormtroopers. If you look at what soldiers have done with projectile weapons throughout history, it takes a surprisingly large amount of ammunition for a single hit. For example in the American Civil War, it took somewhere between 75 and 90 fired rounds for a single hit. In the World Wars with higher rates of fire and the use of suppressive fire, that number goes up even more. If you do a search online for stormtrooper hit percentage, it's actually a relatively high 5-10% in most movies, going as high as over 30% in Episode III (due to the amount of point-blank backstab shots).

Fencing isn't functional swordsmanship.

​@@xingyuzhou1891 There's a grain of truth in that, but it's mostly incorrect. Put a sword in the hand of a trained fencer and one in the hand of someone who hasn't trained, and the outcome is not really in doubt. You'd soon find out who has 'functional swordsmanship' skills. Whip a duelliest out of the 1500's who's been fighting for his life and put him against the fencer, we may have a very different outcome, but that's not simply a matter of skill and knowledge, but also experience, or how 'battle-hardened' one fighter is. It's no secret that battle-hardened troops perform better than thoroughly trained recruits, yet they've both had the same training. The difference is one has been fighting for his life, the other has not. Similarly, put a modern HEMA guy against a knight from the 1400's who has seen battle, and it's probably going to be a bad day for the hobbyist. We can recognise that real duels to the death aren't happening as much as they were in the 1500's or 1600's, making it harder to recruit such a person for movie fight choreography, whilst recognising that fencing in the modern day has a hell of a lot of transferable skills to a real duel, incorporating functional skills. Technique, footwork, strategies, tactical mindset, athleticism, speed, coordination, blade-feedback, attack angles and distancing are all invaluable in a duel, and a well trained fencer will be great at all of them. That said, Bob Anderson wasn't just an Olympic fencer, and he wasn't just a fencing training and fight choreographer. He was a man who had studied the sword all his life. He had studied not just the sport of fencing, but how sword play actually worked in real scenarios, as he had a real passion for historical sword play. This was before HEMA came along. The man had a thorough knowledge of the blade, but he also knew what looked good on screen, and how to adapt functional technique in a way that was cinematic for an audience who may not understand the subtleties of what they were watching. Like I say, it's hard to think of someone better qualified, frankly.

Ikr?!

Because if Shad duelled with his son he would use proper sword fighting techniques.

Nothing beats the Father-Son bonding time of Vergil and Nero.

@@jakomioftherose2434 The family bonding time of Wacky Woohoo Pizza Man, Motivation and recently awakened Dead Weight, you mean.

@@gokbay3057 Well Vader is using just enough skill to pressure Luke until he gets hit.

@Mark: AND does so with his off hand alone too.

While being force electrocuted!

@@SilentReaperOFC exactly, a true badass

emperor didn't weight that much but in ep4 he lifted a rebel crewman one handed and threw him into a wall

@@dylankelly8905 He wasn’t exhausted, electrocuted, one-handed, and emotionally wracked with fear, guilt, and regret at the time.

Anakin was not a master though

@@ExtremeMonke Anakin was a master of his form

goofey goobers which was outrageous, and unfair

goofey goobers This is outrageous, it's not fair! How can you be in the council and not be a master.

@@crook7493 take a seat, young skywalker

No Luke is just an idiot

@@boygenius538_8 (vader does have robo-limbs)

Navonod 2487 Luke was still an idiot.

@@boygenius538_8 I mean both of these things are true, I just didn't know if you had grasped the fact that vader does have robo limbs

Navonod 2487 r/wooooosh

also lukes reaction time is likley just him trying to recover from vaders pushing his hand aside

personally i dont think what hes doinh is missing it, rather its more like he’d be coaching luke to fight vader

actually in canon there are / were groups of jedi that used blasters as gunfighters though largely were kept out of things by the snobnob elitists who controlled the Order in large part.... don't remember much of what books or names rn. ya know who i mean?

@@ZGuy0fSci also mandalorian jedi

He's not wrong, Lol Skywalker is pretty badass, when he isn't high

Ezra's lightsaber in rebels had a kind of blaster combined with his lightsaber. He could de-power his blade and shoot in semi-auto.

Lightsabers are an elegant weapon

Really he was wanting him to join the dark side so yeah it makes sense

100%! Emperror asked Vader not to kill, but capture Luke

@@geg_otmopo3 Technically it's Vader who suggests it, not the Emperor. "If he could be turned, he would be a valuable ally." He also stated to Luke that he wanted to overthrow the Emperor and replace him. It would actually be interesting to see what would have happened if they had done that.

I mean he is fighting one handed, he isn’t trying to kill Luke here.

@@joebomb1019 i think palps just kills vader and either makes luke be his next apprentice or he just kills him too. vader was super weak to palps lighting and luke is just a baby lvl jedi.

Empire strikes back but luke knows forcehealing

No one has mentioned this, but blasters can deflect blasters. They just need more skill than a lightsaber. This was done by the most skilled in the Gray Paladins, basically force sensitives that rely on the intangible uses of the force mostly and used blasters. Source: starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Gray_Paladin

If blasters don't make sense to the jedi then why don't the sith use them? The Sith don't care about protecting anyone.

@@inlikeflynn7238 A great question! For Sith (before Rule of Two, at least), it may be a matter of pride, like the way a more snobbish medieval knight might avoid using weapons of the "common rabble". Lightsabers could've been a social tool or status symbol. After the Rule of Two, it's notable that most Sith *didn't* use lightsabers that often. However, they would of course do so when fighting Jedi, as blaster bolts would likely just be deflected right back at them. Then, of course, there's the fact that so many Sith are former Jedi, and the lightsaber is just what they're good at by this point.

​@@gryphonbotha1880 My favorite thing about you and Flynn talking is that you treat each other respectfully and provide reasons why you're saying what you're saying instead of doing the classic internet thing of "REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE YOU'RE WRONG"

@@turtlelord8021 I mean, I thought it was a really cool question. It helped me find connections between different parts of the Star Wars universe.

Are you sure that's the exact quote?

Even with more training, Luke would be no match for someone like Lord Vader who has tons of experience and and Force abilities beyond anything Luke can imagine.

@@danielaramburo7648 True, but without it he's even worse off.

not to mention Yoda has never trained him at all with a Light Saber.

@@MrChickennugget360 from what we see. Remember yoda wasn't CGI yet. He was a puppet.

I'd also like something on the evolution of Anakin/Vader's fighting styles over the episodes. Light the first fight against Dooku v the last. Also when he was training under obi-wan (Mustafar fight) compared to under Sidious (above Scarif)

Would like to see him go all the way to his scene in mandalorian

Choreography in ROTJ is worse.

@@user-xx6vy9ri8p The coreography was good until luke uses his anger to "beat" vader.

When

OdileOdile19 when he’s disarmed

@@dakotabakken9539 He's more dishanded than anything.

The first fact you have gotten wrong. It cannot have been translated into Khuzdul; for dwarves keep their language a closely-guarded secret.

An audio book in Klingon? Oh wow.

Shad successfully learned Khuzdul by translating runes he found in the ruins of Khazad-dum.

Where would these translations be available?

@@markporter2108 you'll have to message Shad. But he has probably taken an oath not to reveal the Dwarves secret language.

Honestly, even the mistakes in this fight make perfect sense, given that Luke is a beginner and Vader isn't taking the fight seriously.

@@jonathancampbell5231 exactly. Luke had never been in a proper fight. And vader was just testing luke. This has got to be one of the only movies where the mistakes make cononical sense

He didn't really ruined it, he more improve this fight by explaining it and only nitpick it here and there.

@@DarthAxolotl I think even the telegraphing towards the end makes a bit of sense in terms of psychological warfare- it's normally a bad idea, but if you are fighting an inexperienced noob, it looks very scary, especially if you are hitting metal and causing things to spark. Vader overdoes it and nearly loses an arm, yes, but that's the point where he thinks "Enough is enough" and takes the hand to end the fight. Basically, at worst, Vader got cocky. Even a master can make mistakes if they don't take a fight seriously.

@@jonathancampbell5231 Another possible explanation is that by the end of the fight Luke is clearly exhausted and since Vader is very strong, he might be afraid that exhausted Luke won't be able to hold a blow even if he blocks it. So Vader telegraphs so that Luke has time to block in a way that won't end up with his hands giving from exhaustion.

Joel doesn't think it's the best weapon ever made...

Ouch man. And I haven’t even played TLOU2. And you forget; a golf club is a sword-like weapon

Nessie's nine-iron?

NOOOOOO, nooo.

@@gavinschaffner8360 Well, Joel is an idiot

Yes, especially when considering that he doesn't even necessarily have to touch someone to throw them like that.

I think Shad forgot that he is basically half Android with all of his cybernetics

@@Richard_Nickerson I think he means in terms of when it was made

@pyropulse I mean, time of production dates, you're not wrong. I wasn't talking about Rogue One, I was talking about a duel in Star Wars Rebels (not a very good show, in my opinion, but still gets the point across that Darth Vader i a badass) where he picks up a Jedi by his wrists and single handedly throws him across this 100 foot landing platform like he's made of paper...

Not really surprising, I mean he was good enough to kill multiple Jedi at once even _after_ he was crippled.

In Star Wars Legends there was metals that could stop lightsabers. One was called cortosis ore which would cause a feedback loop and shut off the lightsaber. It was weak compared to durasteel. No clue what Vader's shoulder armor was though. LMAO

@@i-evi-l Vader's armor was made up of 10 layers of various materials

@@hazeljoy1 it's space gambeson!!!

@ANTOINE RAFAEL R. MAXIMO Before Disney started in on Star Wars Beskar steel wasn't a thing. Also, Vader didn't deflect blaster bolts, he absorbed the energy. You can see it in the scene where the bolt hits his gloved hand and does not deflect away. This is clearly stated in the book I, Jedi by Michael Stackpole which is a book about Corran Horn who is a main character in Stackpole's Rogue Squadrom series based five years after RotJ and Horn is the main protagonist and discovers during the liberation of Coruscant that he is descended from Correllian Jedi, and I, Jedi kind of retroactively inserts him into the Jedi Academy trilogy which is Luke's first attempt at training Jedi on Yavin. So... I'm calling a Disney foul on "Beskar steel" in Vader's armor. I can't remember which book it was in but I believe Vader's armor is described as having filaments of a very rare and energy repellent fiber of some sort layered into the several layers that comprised his armor. Shadows of the Empire comes to mind as one that might have described in a little more detail the specifics of Vader's armor. I'm not sure, but seeing as how that book took place between ESB and RotJ and heavily features Luke immediately after the fight it's probable that it's addressed there.

@ANTOINE RAFAEL R. MAXIMO lol, I'm so bored bro. I've watched every show I've ever had any interest in watching, some twice, since this covid shit started. Now I'm going through and watching all the vids from my youtube subs I haven't seen and writing essays. Honestly that whole post was done from memory except I wanted to verify I had the spelling of Stackpole correct I haven't read any of those books in about 15 years or so, but the X-Wing series (first 4 especially) and I, Jedi, along with Shadows all got read 2-3 times each back then. Those are some of the better EU or "Legend" books. Corran Horn was a really cool character. The Jedi Academy trilogy wasn't nearly as good but featured the main characters in the movies as main protagonists, whereas the X-wing' series didn't. It took maybe five minutes tops to type it up correctly. (Grammatically I mean.)

Iirc, the original novelisation if the OT it mentions the sabers are hard to use, because the energy blade generates a strong cyclical force, like having a fast spinning wheel on the end of a stick. That's why they 'feel' heavy because they are hard to move.

Bingo.

also, Luke's training with Yoda at that point likely was a few weeks at best and Yoda most likely was mostly concerned of teaching him the Force first

Where do you get that they were told to miss?

@@sokandueler9578 The absolute most over looked exchange in all of Cinema history! Governor Tarkin: "Are they away?" Darth Vader: "They just made the jump into hyperspace." Governor Tarkin: "And you're sure the homing beacon is secure onboard their ship? I'm taking an awful risk, Vader. This had better work." The Deathstar Troopers were under order to let them go, it's the first thing Leia says when they have escaped. Princess Leia: "They let us go. It was the only reason for the ease of our escape." Han Solo: "Easy? You call that easy?" Princess Leia: "They're tracking us." Han Solo: "Not this ship, sister." On Besbin they are ordered to press Luke towards Vader, that means no lethal shots. Storm Troopers are actually excellent shots, so good they can choose to hit or miss convincingly at will.

TLJ Throne Room Fight: Z-

@@Unknown-hb3id Fair enough. :D

@@Unknown-hb3id You're giving It a z-? generous, I give it could not be graded

nick reed Nah. That leaves it open so that if someone else was able to grade it, then they’d give it too much credit.

@@Unknown-hb3id Oh, no. Rey vs. Kylo on Endor would be Z-.

Boom de yada, boom de yada...

Frankie Niagara: "I love Kylo's technique!"

@Jonah Silva The Captain BaseBallBat-Boy style.

He's doing it, confirmed in a recent video.

Literally why didn't Ahsoka just push her with the Force?

@@sirpepeofhousekek6741 why doesnt anyone use the force in these duels? Because *LAZOR STIK.*

You know what the Truth is..

Yeah, still remember the first time my dad cut my hand off... ;)

@@whythatspreposterous the key is to reattach it

@@aurorauplinks Uh huh. That's why Dad kept throwing them in the acid vat. :/

@@whythatspreposterous well i dont know how he thought that would help you learn fencing...

Yeah that kind of "even if I lose I win" is only acceptable on a strategic level like the xanatos gambit

Firestorm Or Cletus Cassidy in the absolute Carnage event.

Almost every hero won in some way when they lose.

Al As 57 luke lost completely friend frozen ass kicked missing an arm and humiliated in what way did he win

@@davidajayi6516 He won humility. And here learned where his learning progress actually is and what overconfidence and arrogance can do.

Shad didn't mention that. I'm not sure he even knows. Based on his remarks trashing the Ep. 4 fight, which Anderson choreographed. Fun fact: Anderson _reprised_ the role in Ep. 5, but only for the advanced moves. Prowse apparently upped his game between Ep. 4 & 5.

@@TheNthMouse Vader's poor two-handed form in the second half makes so much sense then. Bob is a master foil fencer and probably doesn't do much longsword fencing.

There is also the posibility that he simply cant sit around knowing his friends are in danger. Its been a while since ive last seen the film but isnt this whole situation just Vader trying to lure Luke out of hiding?

@@LiveErrors that is Vader's primary motivation. Had it failed, he would still have been able to capture Leia, which would be a good propaganda win for the Empire. He also did capture Han, which did multiple minor things for his plans, punishment for his betrayal to the Empire, putting both Jabba and Fett in his debt (or maybe remove/reduce some older debt to them). He also reinforced Imperial control over Cloud City and the resources it produced.

I agree. Luke knows how much he has learned, but I don't think he knows how much there is to learn. Compared to what he knew before, Luke has learned a lot, but compared to what there is to learn, he has barely started to go learn. In the expanded universe we still see him learning new stuff years later, sometimes struggling for example as he builds his Jedi Academy and can't answer several questions.

He essentially says as much to Yoda and Ben when he brags "I feel the Force".

I'd love to see proper bind options that work for film scenes.

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You again? Nani?!

I believe that is canon.

That’s exactly how it works. It’s basically like two magnets being held by each other.

In Episode 2 Dooku does something that looks like sliding the blade during a bind to defeat Obi-Wan.

In Revenge of the Sith, Anakin and Obi-Wan are constantly sliding their lightsabers on top of each other. Besides, if the sabers could stick together, then you wouldn't be able to disarm an opponent and have the other saber fly off somewhere; it would simply be stuck to your saber. lol

It's not something that always happens; the loops of energy the blades are made of can get locked together, but it's more or less random; it's one of the things that makes lightsabers difficult to use for non-Force-users. Force-users know when it's about to happen and can more easily deal with or break it.

Good observation. Star Wars Theory has a good video explanation about why Anakin/Vader sometimes loses in fights even though he's suppose to be one of the better duelist in jedi history. Dark side rage heavily clouds your judgment. In the Mustafa fight, Anakin hated Kenobi so much that he wanted to use the same move Kenobi used to kill Darth Maul and Anakin got his legs cut off for it. You actually see him try the move on Kenobi twice during that fight. Another factor is Vader obviously never wanted to kill Luke. In most portrayals of Vader he dispatches even the most powerful opponents with ease. Even more telling is the fact that Vader could've just force choked the life out of him from across the room if he just wanted him dead.

I agree about Vader blocking Luke's saber. It looks as if he realized his mistake a little to late and just barely blocked in time. Plus I don't think his armor is what stopped Han's blaster fire earlier on, I think Han caught Vader off guard when he opened fire (Han shots first after all) and Vader just reacts by putting hands up Knowing that his cybernetics can handle some blaster bolts without harm to himself. The difference in those two moments is that Vader feels no pain when shot in his hands because they're mechanical, but when Luke strikes him he is noticeably in pain because his shoulder is still flesh.

3. fact is interesting, but i highly doubt luke got actual lightsaber training from yoda

@@gabrielsovick2693 When Vader blocks Han's shots I think the consensus is that he's using the force to absorb the energy

Wasn't expecting to see such a recent comment. I agree. Plus Luke is completely exhausted at that point. Vader is likely only sloppy because Luke won't take advantage, and the very second he actually does, Vader ends the fight immediately.