Thanks so much for taking the time to watch and I’m glad you saw this as well. Feels great to know ur not alone . Eventually sober habits will be come normal and then before you know it u will be back on ur board surfing and getting new routines down. It’s all about keeping the sober routine long enough for it turn into a habit , for once a positive habit lol. Remember to fake it till ya make it , that really did help me realize I didn’t need to put all this unnecessary pressure on my newly sober mind to get everything right and to be excited about everything. Take a one hour at a time God bless and keep me posted on your success maybe one day you can teach me how to surf 🏄‍♀️ haha

@@dansroadtorecovery5563 Thanks man. I plan to keep hanging in there. The fake it till you make it is definitely my plan of attack for life right now! Would love to teach you to surf sometime but I'm all the way on the East Coast (Nova Scotia)!!

38 day here I thought I was done with this and bam. PAWS hit me and I cried like a baby haha

Congrats on getting to 42 days by now you should be close to 60 that’s amazing work! Yeah I still remember those feelings like they were yesterday. It literally feels like it will never end but it will, with a stronger desire to enjoy the small things in life. But your right, as the time gets longer symptoms get milder and you can start to find healthy ways to cope with the anxiety and panic as that is by far the toughest part Keep us posted on your journey and u can always reach out on FB (Daniel Sulger) and message me.

@@dansroadtorecovery5563 61 days today! Paws still hits in the late afternoon/early evening almost every day but yeah, they are sloooooowly subsiding....compared to my first 30 days I can feel the difference now...Still feels like I got a heckofva long way to go given the rate of recovery....Thanks for the words of encouragement ✌🏾👍🏾🙏🏾😇

Thank you for this info! I am four months sober. I went a week without drinking when I got hit with withdrawal symptoms. I decided to quit cold turkey at that point. Like you said, it goes in waves, but they get milder. The anxiety, physical anxiety, panic attacks, fatigue and feeling just ill are the worst. I hate when I get the chills. It is a roller coaster of symptoms that is for sure.

@@hendrxfn DId u feel depersonalization in ur with drawal please ans I m.173 days sober now

Benny Parcher just wanted to touch base with you and see how you are feeling lately . Congrats on the 93 days back a few months I know it’s beyond tough. I can’t count how many times I relapse before I even got close to 93. The lazy and unmotivated thing will come and go as you probably seen a few months later into your recovery. Hell there are plenty of days I still feel that way. Do you have to fight through it sometimes , absolutely BUT just remind yourself It’s ok every now and again or even pick a day weekly to have a self care day. Everyone NEEDS self care days. For me that means little to no human contact, Sports on TV and phone on silent. And most importantly you are right you are not a failure ! Please don’t hesitate to reach out to me if you’re going through anything that I can maybe help with I know this is a hell of a long road so I’m here for you every step of the way

@@dansroadtorecovery5563 I ended up relapsing over a girl. Almost got 6 months twice. I'm back at 80 days again tho. Thank you for the support

@@dansroadtorecovery5563 did u feel depersonalization in ur withdrawal pleasse ans 162 days sober now broken sleep 7 8 hours

@@BennyParcher how r u now

@@sangeetalambh6389 I'm much better now I've got 16 months clean and getting a job and taking it seriously really changed everything

How r u now ?

Me too, I had maybe a relieved feeling during the last bit of my taper, and then straight into new symptoms when I jumped..

Lisa I'm right there with you. I relapsed about a year ago because my PAWS never let up. And I'm about 2 weeks into recovery again, never had a pink cloud, no clue what that feels like. My body just feels like its constantly punishing me. Wondering if you ever started to feel better?

I wonder ladies, were you "using" for an extended time? A friend of mine was on Oxycontin off and on for 20 years since he was 15. I learnt that the longer ones been on something (and other factors), the harder recovery can be due to the effects on the brain. I think my friend also had no pink cloud as I haven't heard from him in 3 months - since day 2 of his medical detox. But I keep praying for him and not giving up 😥 Stay strong and hang in there ladies.

@@JesusistheOnlyWay222 thanks so much for the kind words. You're absolutely correct, for someone like your friend, and myself, who share a similar time span spent on drugs, the recovery process is immensely more difficult and lengthy as opposed to someone who maybe did it for a year or something. I am sure your friend wants space but you should reach out to check in. Even when I'm in the depths of withdrawal, and cant lift my hands to text, it is still nice to receive a text from someone who just wants to let me know they're there if I need them. Not prying, and dont know your situation of course, but just a thought. Thanks again and my best wishes to your friend 🖤

Day 11 for me I still full of hopelessness and it hard cause I'm also have no body for support. Did your pink cloud ever come?

I’m so happy that I was able to do that. Lord knows it feels like it will never end but when it does it will feel like you fought through a war and got to the other side.. Thanks for watching.

I think having subs in our system is still acting on the dopamine levels but im not a doc so i will def do some research. Thanks so much for the comment

If you on subs that’s what messes you up subs are terrible

Thanks! just trying to do my small part. Nothing tougher in this world than recovering addicts! Thanks again for watching

Damn. Well I got to say I'm mad proud of you that's great 35 days is amazing but yeah I understand what you mean about the world hurting once you finally break through the physicals to mental hit you so hard. Just got a fake it till you make it. Don't hesitate to reach out if you need anything all right and good luck on your journey

Thanks man I really appreciate it . Hope all is well with you

18 days sounds about right for lack of sleep . When I say acute wd I definitely don’t mean sleep . Hell, I could do a whole different video on how freaking long it takes for get ur sleep regulated. Of course we all have different opinions on what exactly defined ACUTE wd vs PAWS, but I put sleep in the PAWS category. Hope all is well for ya and thanks for stopping be and checking out the video

Yeah i feel the same ways sometimes about opiates physically wds are gone but youre right some days we still feel chained. I know how exhausting and frustrating it can be so thats why I wanted to share my story. Thanks for the comment and check out my blog wedorecovertoday.com where i discuss a whole bunch of topics.

Hey man I'm 11 month in and still dealing with heavy paws. Any update on your situation tony?

Sounds similar to my situation... I am only 2 months out of my Alcohol Detox. Was on top of the world for about 2 weeks after Detox. And then boom. Reality and all sorts of PAWS symptoms took over every day. Had to get on some anxiety meds... not sure if they are helping. Same thing.... have to tell myself that time will heal these episodes.... In my second round of treatment with Chem Dependency counselors, and they are warning us of PAWS and how some folks deal with it for almost 2 years after quitting. Something to look forward too right?? Not really. But better than the alternative.

If I can help in any other way please just reach out ! Thanks for watching. You will get through this. It does suck but I promise it’s not forever. Keep doing your thing!!!

Congratulations! I know a lot of people use it responsibly and medicinally but I also know people that smoke every minute of every day and they seriously have a problem so good for you for noticing it and handling it. And you’re absolutely right by sharing our stories, we can cut through the crap and get right to core of the issues. Thanks for watching. I recently moved across country so I haven’t been posting a lot going to try to add some more videos now that I’m settled

How are you feeling now Keith? Im 4 months in off weed and very depressed albeit anxiety is a lot less prominent. Your story gives me hope. Sometimes i feel like there's no hope and feel in complete despair

@@DomBaconMusic doing good for the most part. The first year was the hardest forsure. Depending on how long you used will determine how long you will be recovering for. The first 6 months were the hardest to get through as recovery symptoms will peak during that time. Its easier to accept its going to be rough road for a time then give up and start over. Now 15 months clean I can say it's worth it to quit. Benefits of clean liver are you save a lot of cash, no waking up hazy, no highs or lows, more productive, and you dont eat like crap anymore. What you going through is normal. It sucks for a time but well worth it on the other side. Congrats on 4 months that a huge milestone.

@@DomBaconMusic how r u now

@@sangeetalambh6389 getting there. Could be better though

Hey thanks for watching! Of course when I give time frames I’m speaking very generally . 14 months is definitely a long time but not unheard of. Just keep pushing through and possibly see a therapist if you don’t already as sometimes PAWS can directly affect any type of mental issue or condition as well . Best to cover all bases. Please hit me up if u have any questions

im on 13 months and still have paws, are you any better yet?

@@gunitbot6 still in it at 20 months

​@@barbmoody4892what were you taking if you don't mind me asking? I know benzos, Suboxone and methadone have long paws. Hopefully you're through it now

Good Morning, I’m doing well, just past 7 yrs clean so far so good! I am very happy for the most part of course life still had it’s annoying days and stressful times but learning different ways to cope without immediately going to the bottle or the needle are a necessity. sometimes the best thing I can do when I’m stressing out on life is allowing myself to cry and get it all out and it makes me feel better. Happiness does return just need to “fake it till ya make it” and by putting on that smile it tricks ur brain into thinking your okay until you start to actually feel okay Thanks so much for watching and taking the time to comment. If there’s anything you need or any questions you have don’t hesitate to reach out to me anytime dsulger1@gmail.com 480-453-3271 (text or call anytime)

Ah man working a stressful job is so tough on its own let alone fighting through this, but you are doing it! when this does finally start to minimize you should really make a concerted effort to find a less stressful but good paying job , they are out there but you really need to search lol. For the time being, you know as well as I do to take it 1 hour at a time with your shift. Congratulate yourself every hour whatever it takes. Eventually I promise u will wake up and start to feel a bit better than the day before u can motivate urself to better the employment situation. Thanks for watching and if I can do anything please don’t hesitate to hit me up dsulger1@gmail.com 480 453 3271 Good luck 👍 I know you got this !

@@dansroadtorecovery5563 thanks man.. I'm actually leaving my job at the end of the month. Gonna take some time off from work , and let my brain heal without as much stressors from a job. I know it will play a major role in the recovery process. Thanks for the message 🙂

BB how r u now

@@sangeetalambh6389 it is 9th month. It is hard but i am fighting. Thanls fpr asking

@@BB-fv2nf u have now sleep problems

@@BB-fv2nf did u feel depersonalization

@@sangeetalambh6389 i a still having seep problems, i take xanax in the evning for sleeping. Yes i have besn depersonalized for at least 5months.. Now there is just depresion but it is supposed to go away after 12months

Hey Adam,! Congrats on 10 days clean! That is amazing. Well although Dilaudud is a hell of a drug, the fact u were only on them for about 2 months may give you a bit of a leg up on a lot of us. Due to the small time frame that you were addicted the PAWS should not last much longer for ya.. It’s easier to remember “pre drug” life when it’s only been a couple months vs a cpl years . Look at it like a few weeks of being grumpy and mentally and physically fatigued and I’m sure ur anxiety is acting up as well (just guessing ) but it will be over soon . I think the hardest part when u have been doing them for that period of time is the overwhelming urge to pick back up cause you want that feeling back 1 more time then quit forever lol but that will just lead ya right back to square 1… So yeah u should be in the clear with PAWS pretty soon ! Your almost there , YOU GOT THIS! PLease don’t hesitate to reach out if u have any questions or need help dsulger1@gmail.com 480 453 3271 Again congrats on 10 and keep it going ! Good luck and thanks for watching!

@@dansroadtorecovery5563 thanks so much for the response ! Yeah feeling a bit sluggish and a bit of anxiety but the gym and a good diet should help me out big time. Thank you !

I was on opiates for 20 years. Now off over a year. Suffering through paws big time.

@@barbmoody4892 thanks for watching! Yeah 2 full decades is a long time to be hooked on Anything . I don’t want to sugarcoat anything it’s gonna be hard, but you know you can push through this one day at a time. We truly do have to fake it until we make it ! In the meantime, get outside enjoying nature, it really does help. Push up your dopamine levels. I don’t know where you live, but I’m sure you can find somewhere to hike or walk. I’m telling you it really helps me and I think it’s going to help you too.

I’m 3 and half months off dilaudid and still dealing with bad anxiety and blah and I guess just this last 2 weeks I been getting more comfy with the fact I don’t have anxiety disorder and it’s just paws but is it supposed to last all day and vary in strength?

Yep that is when it starts to begin for a lot of people . Well just know we are all here for you and take as much OTC sleep meds as possible to hopefully get a couple hours of rest. Depending on what drug , most should be out of your system minus subs or methadone. I know my problems when I went to sleep I couldn’t deal with the restless legs. I know this is really hard so we’re here for you please reach out if you need someone to talk to day or night

@@dansroadtorecovery5563 Thanks for the support!

@@dansroadtorecovery5563 Restless legs UNBEARABLE!

It’s been quite some time so I can’t specifically tell you but it was months not weeks I can tell ya that much . That whole first year is rough , first eve thing sober .. first thanksgiving sober first Xmas sober etc … So I would Def say that first year is all about PAWS. But with strength we get though all these “firsts” and we become proud of each other . Thanks for stopping by and watching . Hope all is well now for you

Hey Brian. I didn’t have the fully body aches with PAWS but I would get headaches more but honestly I think that was from stress. Just about everything I felt in PAWS was mental. Are you new into recovery?

Dans Road to Recovery yes I am, a month. Was fine then I felt like something hit me like a ton of bricks on my 3 to 4 week.

brian julian Gotcha. Sounds exactly like PAWS.. once you get off the pink cloud as I call it, Reality sober really takes affect and then you begin to feel the symptoms.. That is when relapse really does begin to start to get in ur head. That’s where I find comfort in talking to people that truly understand and are able to talk you down. I totally feel your pain brother and I’m always there for you hit me up whenever you need.

@@dansroadtorecovery5563 thank you my friend, you have already help me just by being there. Thank you.

@@brianjulian5230 About the 3rd or 4th week out of my sobriety date I got hit with a major bout of anxiety, panic, and PAWS symptoms. So bad I had to walk out of treatment therapy class because I started hallucinating and basically having a panic attack. They moved me to Zoom treatment meetings to ease my episodes. I was kicking ass on the pink cloud. And then I guess my body just said "Hey, this ain't gonna be EZ kid" ... So now I am in a real war with finding a balance day to day. I make it through the episodes. And I keep telling myself "This sucks... but it would suck more if I went back to a bottle or more a day." And that keeps me going. Hope everyone here on these KZfaq Comments pages are continuing their paths of recovery.

7 months since last dose of methadone and still have symptoms...

Hey thanks for watching ! Yes overthinking & insecurities are a part of anxiety and anxiety is a huge part of PAWS . It will slowly go away as you maintain sobriety.. Anyway if you ever have Any other questions please hit me up! Thanks again

How many months it takes to come out of paws .I am currently on day 350

@@prashantpoojary7671 it can vary based on the person . I’m not surprised to hear it’s been about a yr. that’s not unusual. It should start dissipating within the next few months but you will get there!

Ah no worries about being rude, any subject I discuss is always open for "debate". Its all about insight and helping others but yeah i agree when it comes to subs or methadone it takes forever but through my yrs everybody I've spoke unless including myself has only been dealing with the worst physical symptoms for 5-7ish days from short acting pain pills, heroin or fentanyl. Obviously after 5 to 7 days ur not going to feel perfect but for most people they are through the worst of it.. but again that's just my experience and my personal Insight. I'm always happy to hear others opinions and experiences so if your acute phase of withdrawal lasted longer then that is very good to know . Obviously there are exceptions to every rule so I appreciate you sharing that and thanks for watching

Addicted To Recovery Thanks for your vids. Yeah, I've heard of people getting over the acute stage in a week or so. I once was in full-on WDs from the same you were taking for 3 full weeks... But I think some of us have a much harder time with dopamine defeiciency. THIS time I'm done! Am too old for this sh*t ! Seriously, your vids help to remind me not to give up, not to leave the planet due to hopelessness. It's SO much harder doing it alone. No family, no partner, etc. so when I say your vids help, I mean it. Thank you !

@@lisacolbert5987 wow 3 weeks is insane. Talk about tourture ugh.. but yeah I mean Post Acute withdrawal syndrome is what really gets me cuz after a few weeks of being depressed and full of anxiety even after my physical symptoms went away I just used to always pick back up.. you're right we're all too old for this shit and u r def never alone. I'm glad my videos help and just knowing I'm helping with the videos and with my blog helps keep me sober but I can't stress this enough you're definitely not alone please reach out anytime and feel free to add me on Facebook keep your head up 💝 We're All in This Together

Addicted To Recovery Here's a big hug ! Really , your words help a lot . 💝

Ya that shits a lie, I withdrew for a whole month and I was only taking 5mg of Oxy after a surgery for 2 months

Hey thanks for watching. How long have you been clean? As I was saying in the video it will eventually does end but it def is a tough road. If you need anything don’t hesitate to reach out to me . Keep that “Fake it to you make it” attitude and you can get through it & get to the other side . Good luck with everything and def email me more of ur story or any questions u have . dsulger1@gmail.com

3 years and I'd check out !

😂😂😂 I’m cracking up Lisa