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@billsmith8113
@billsmith8113 5 жыл бұрын
Skipping to the 30 mark defeats the whole purpose of a Z review.
@Serenity1297
@Serenity1297 3 жыл бұрын
@Barry Barry then it would no longer be a Z review if he did not ramble and cuss way too much.
@dominick253
@dominick253 5 жыл бұрын
You're like the sloppy mechanic of audio. I love it!
@iluvj00
@iluvj00 5 жыл бұрын
Like a Scotty Kilmer?
@jacobpeck9372
@jacobpeck9372 4 жыл бұрын
@Ashley Wright you don't know who Scotty Kilmer is do you.
@McbrydeWithaY
@McbrydeWithaY 3 жыл бұрын
The AvE of audio
@lorcro2000
@lorcro2000 5 жыл бұрын
The large dead zone in the beginning of the volume turn is probably a feature, not a bug. This way you won't accidentally turn it to the point where you turn if off if you want it to be quiet. Same thing with the K3 I have, the beginning of the rotation near the on/off switch does nothing.
@philmissy1
@philmissy1 5 жыл бұрын
being a piece of shit could be labeled as a feature.
@kyle1538
@kyle1538 5 жыл бұрын
@@philmissy1 stop replying fuck head
@EdreiZahari
@EdreiZahari 5 жыл бұрын
The best (read: most entertaining) Z Reviews vids are clearly: - Is a good unit to buy because it make sound go right. - Bitch for 25 minutes about flaws.
@skengasaurus
@skengasaurus 5 жыл бұрын
My favorite is when all he focuses on in a DAP is how fast the OS is.
@JohnCiaccio
@JohnCiaccio 5 жыл бұрын
I enjoy his singing.
@suba6639
@suba6639 5 жыл бұрын
How did you managed to comment from 2 days ago, what the heck
@EdreiZahari
@EdreiZahari 5 жыл бұрын
@@suba6639 Join Z's $5 Patreon and above and get access to all his reviews early. Also $10 a month gets you into his Private Channel where you also get all his personal answers to questions, vid/voice snippets of things, and advice from other more knowledgeable audio peeps.
@suba6639
@suba6639 5 жыл бұрын
Oh okay that makes sense
@rossanderson4156
@rossanderson4156 3 жыл бұрын
Copped one of these for like 125 bucks last week, this is the only review of the unit that matters btw
@RadioactiveModder
@RadioactiveModder 3 жыл бұрын
Listening to this with my m40x's connected to my K5 pro. :)
@Can-hq3iy
@Can-hq3iy 3 жыл бұрын
how does it sound ?
@bigpotato7804
@bigpotato7804 3 жыл бұрын
Dude we have the EXACT same setup. I just ordered 6XX on Massdrop thou :)
@Ray-bn7hr
@Ray-bn7hr 3 жыл бұрын
I too have an m40x and some edifice speakers. If i go for this will it drive power enough for speakers?
@Dazen101
@Dazen101 4 жыл бұрын
I swear looking to upgrade audio equipment is like ripping your hair out. No reviewer gives it to you straight and they just all ramble.
@CallumSk8er
@CallumSk8er 4 жыл бұрын
Sean Thompson I feel you. I’m going crazy looking for a dac amp with input selection
@knifen2478
@knifen2478 4 жыл бұрын
Its called "Passion"
@solderbuddy
@solderbuddy 4 жыл бұрын
@@CallumSk8er schitt modi uber 2 with magni 3+ is a good combo or any amp
@benozzy003
@benozzy003 3 жыл бұрын
Bc sound is subjective after a certain point
@d0nj03
@d0nj03 3 жыл бұрын
@@CallumSk8er Sybasonic UAU07A and its clones like the M-Audio Super DAC and Logilink UA0211 have an input selection switch, but they're far from the highest-quality headphone amps. At least my Logilink sounded too veiled for me so I had to move on, despite the yes-god-finally presence of both an input switch and an output switch and a large-ish horizontal volume knob. Other than that, only if you can accept high-distortion DAC/amps for prices above 300+ USD and can deal with the awkward ordering process, you could go for an Audio-gd from the NFB or R/R2R families, and again you would have input and output switches.
@TheMstwntdLMSV123
@TheMstwntdLMSV123 4 жыл бұрын
Skip to 30 mins to get his thoughts cause I'm super busy Save video for later for pure entertainment
@FTGTapGod
@FTGTapGod 5 жыл бұрын
RMAF went great! Definitely my favorite room at the show and I know I'm not alone in that. My girlfriend was able to figure out what speakers and headphones she wanted in your room which was cool. Hope you're able to do it again.
@FTGTapGod
@FTGTapGod 5 жыл бұрын
@Bhotrim My girlfriend really liked the Sennheiser 58X out of everything she tried actually. For me the Hifiman EditionXX and Koss ESP/95X were my takeaways.
@mumblingshovel7584
@mumblingshovel7584 3 жыл бұрын
thank you zeos, i just bought this along with the hd 6xx and they will arrive within the next week. thanks for being such a great resource for quality and entertaining reviews on all of your videos. take care and i don't doubt ill stop watching even after buying this. keep this channel exactly the way it is.
@masterxyr
@masterxyr 4 жыл бұрын
first and foremost, you're not by any means a loser, quite the contrary, you're our beloved Zeos. now that we've got that out of the way, and I know most of this review is practically a message for Fiio, this is the most anti-selling sell I've heard of a product, because you're still giving it a seal of approval, but, gee, is it hard to still be motivated to buy it after all the little nags you've addressed and shone light on. I agree with all the particulars you've observed, and it could even have bluetooth. However, from your words and others I've heard (indistinguishable from atom +kadas board) , it's a very clean dac and a very clean amp with 1.5 AND a decent knob, and I think I might just finally be pulling the plug on this one as it's priced to my wallet and ticks all my boxes - though I reeeeally love the design of the el amp, it's so much more $$ here in my neck of the woods.
@thevindictive6145
@thevindictive6145 5 ай бұрын
So agree with powdered properly and loudness. Hence the difference between a desktop DAC and a dongle DAC. And even then decent desktop DAC is sometimes just not enough.
@alinoo1
@alinoo1 3 жыл бұрын
The easy down and hard up switches makes sense, don't wanna accidentally slap up the gain a level, but slapping it down is fine. Just turn it up again. Stops you from blowing up your headphones
@Seroplex10mg
@Seroplex10mg 4 жыл бұрын
I bought it for 179€. thanks a lot for your recommendation. I'm impress. using DT 990 pro for now. A completely different world (I'm coming from a motherboard chipset)
@faelanman901
@faelanman901 3 жыл бұрын
What impedance are the 990's? I'm trying to figure out if this will drive 600 ohm 880's
@trixniisama
@trixniisama 3 жыл бұрын
@@faelanman901 Not a great idea. I did this and I regretted it. If you have other headphones with 300 ohm or less, pick up the K5 Pro, but the best you could do with a DT 880 600ohm is to buy a DAC and the Emotiva A100 which I did some time ago, and that changed the sound of the DT 880. It's still too harsh in some music so I'm still searching for ways to reduce the sibilance (like using tubes beforehand).
@Seroplex10mg
@Seroplex10mg 3 жыл бұрын
@@faelanman901 dt 990 pro 250 Ohm
@Vaxeri
@Vaxeri 10 ай бұрын
This is the only dac-amp combo that average audiophile would need for high impeadance headphones. As long as your headphones aren't above 300 ohms, this unit can power them nice and clean.
@2010johnking
@2010johnking 5 жыл бұрын
RMAF was good. It was cool to meet you and BS about a few things like the THX AAA 789 amp.
@OSD07
@OSD07 3 жыл бұрын
Sir could you please suggest ME WHICH I SHOULD GO WITH FiiO K5 pro or iFi ZEN Dac. THANK YOU
@ZReviews
@ZReviews 5 жыл бұрын
17:20.. I didn't lose them. They were stolen.
@brad_wilson
@brad_wilson 5 жыл бұрын
RIP OH10 ☹️
@ZReviews
@ZReviews 5 жыл бұрын
leo
@jekken333
@jekken333 5 жыл бұрын
Ask DMS lol
@michaelknight5607
@michaelknight5607 4 жыл бұрын
What kind of insurance you have for your stuff. You have so many.
@noenken
@noenken 5 жыл бұрын
The E09K actually had line-out AND pre-out. So, the K5 is a step back in that way. Also none of the older ones had a DAC, they all relied on the portable unit to do that. That is why the amps have USB, it's a passthrough to the dock.
@POVShotgun
@POVShotgun 3 жыл бұрын
@blsessex there’s a k5 review and it’s covered there
@allNicksAlreadyTaken
@allNicksAlreadyTaken 3 жыл бұрын
The head-camera literally makes me motion sick, so I have to scroll down to the comments and only scroll up when it sounds like something interesting is shown.
@d0nj03
@d0nj03 3 жыл бұрын
You can also watch it with the page zoomed out to like 50%, and only zoom in when there's something interesting.
@akorus_master
@akorus_master 5 жыл бұрын
Zeos: There is a problem with your statement that "Balanced is better" The thing is : if you compared single ended and balanced output of one amplifier: when you use single ended output you use only half of the circuit of the amplifier, of course using all of it will give a superior result. Balanced is a different way to do thing. It isn't innherently better. To get a more accurate comparaison you should compare similarly priced amplifier of a brand: one purely single ended and one balanced: Like the NFB29 and NFB28 of Audio GD.
@JDS_im
@JDS_im 4 жыл бұрын
Balanced offers some benefits in power throughput and noise/crosstalk elimination, but there aren't many situations in which a consumer headphone setup can audibly benefit from that. I have a 789, and it sounds the same to me through balanced and single-ended when taking volume out of the equation. The 789 just sounds amazing because it's an amazing amp, not because it offers balanced input and output. Unbalanced amps can still be better. Balanced isn't necessary for an amp to be amazing, and shouldn't ever be a concern for any consumer who doesn't have any specific reasons to require a balanced setup.
@junkiexl86
@junkiexl86 4 жыл бұрын
@@JDS_im From my experience, balance makes the most difference when going balanced the whole way through, not just out of the amp's output. Need to feed the amp balance from the DAC as well.
@JDS_im
@JDS_im 4 жыл бұрын
@@junkiexl86 Well yeah, if you're using a balanced DAC and single-ended headphone output, you're effectively clipping your amp, so yeah as a result you might wrongfully believe that balanced sounds better.
@kyleleung333
@kyleleung333 5 жыл бұрын
They have a NC wireless headphone coming out next month. I tried it on their booth, it's quite amazing. Either NC ability or the LDAC support.
@PerfmonX64
@PerfmonX64 4 жыл бұрын
I totally agree that the BasX-A100 is the amp to have for running T50RP's single ended. However, 3 of the 4 sets of T50RP's that I have are wired for balanced. As a result, I ended up selling my BasX shortly after getting the 789. I found the 789 had enough power to get the job done when running them balenced, and be clearer and cleaner overall. The bass on the A100 was probably a little better then the 789.
@ceccatoj
@ceccatoj 4 жыл бұрын
I came for the 30 mark but couldn't bring myself to jump forward.
@louis1443
@louis1443 3 жыл бұрын
Great video what I love the most is the honesty keep up the good work
@EtherealoNe1
@EtherealoNe1 4 жыл бұрын
You sound like the Joker of audio equipment... and it's awesome.
@mistersurrealist
@mistersurrealist 4 жыл бұрын
He's the Jim Sterling of audio equipment.
@RAFAEI_
@RAFAEI_ 4 жыл бұрын
I'm using this coupled with a pair of DT 990 Pro's 250 Ohms via USB from my PC. All volumes maxed out and highest gain. It starts clipping/rattling (only left side of the headphones) if volume passes 3 o' clock position on bass boosted songs only. The thing is - it's not too loud as you describe in the video - I feel like it's almost enough, but not quite... In comparison, my £10 KZ-ATE chinese IEMs sound comfortable on highest setting up to the 12 o'clock / 1 o'clock position. I really was expecting a lot more power based on your review.
@Staffy_
@Staffy_ 4 жыл бұрын
salvador rafael Tuberosa should I get the k5 for my dt990s?
@RAFAEI_
@RAFAEI_ 4 жыл бұрын
@@Staffy_ I had received a used pair from Amazon most probably. Sent them back and got a brand new pair. The issue with the rattling is gone. I can recommend the K5 with your DT990s if you use some sort of equalizer. I use DFX (software). It's good enough for adding bass and treble (believe it or not I enhance the treble). You'll turn the volume up to the 3 o' clock position (max out to 5 o' clock position in some tracks). It's enough for listening. Not crazy loud though, but I think that's because the 990s are open back. The K5 is about perfect if you don't want to risk getting deaf on the long term.
@turbomustang84
@turbomustang84 5 жыл бұрын
I was in a band called instant diarrhea in the 80s
@ericanderson7059
@ericanderson7059 5 жыл бұрын
Dadoo run run run dadoo run run must have really gotten them out there seats literally .
@dg1886
@dg1886 5 жыл бұрын
I use the dock in the old K5 with Fiio X5 2nd gen player. It’s charging and doing the DAC work
@victorq1046
@victorq1046 5 жыл бұрын
I have the same setup, sounds great to me. Use it with my Grado 125i and my original Sennheiser Momentum. Also connected to my Peachtree M25.
@JohnHutton532231
@JohnHutton532231 5 жыл бұрын
Same here. When I got the K5 Pro, I transferred the K5 with the docked X5ii to the bedroom for evening listening.
@Samuell1124
@Samuell1124 3 жыл бұрын
Should I get this or the ifi zen dac, I’m new to audio don’t really know much about them
@asrigascanbe
@asrigascanbe 3 жыл бұрын
Would like to know the answer to this as well
@juliangst
@juliangst 5 жыл бұрын
2:40, wow this was the worst pronunciation of 'Nordschleife' I've ever heard xD
@philmissy1
@philmissy1 5 жыл бұрын
wow who gives a fuck
@commanderrussels2612
@commanderrussels2612 5 жыл бұрын
I just call it Hitler’s Car Club
@juliangst
@juliangst 5 жыл бұрын
@@commanderrussels2612 lmao
@juliangst
@juliangst 5 жыл бұрын
@@philmissy1 German people :)
@ryanc3368
@ryanc3368 5 жыл бұрын
Nord-sleeve lol
@TedTabaka
@TedTabaka 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for reviewing this!
@RusticKey
@RusticKey 4 жыл бұрын
Can anyone give me a recommendation that's similar to this but has a proper line out, or a switch between headphone/pre-out? In the same price range and is also a DAC/amp combo of course. The fact that it has only pre-out without a switch is a deal-breaker for me.
@Krikstar123
@Krikstar123 4 жыл бұрын
I have have same question :-)
@Kopsu87
@Kopsu87 4 жыл бұрын
Looking for something like that as well.
@junkiexl86
@junkiexl86 4 жыл бұрын
DX3 Pro. Not sure how it compares sound-wise to the K5 Pro, but it measures far better than it. DX3 also comes with a remote. I ran my HD 660/700's off the DX3 Pro for about 7 months before I upgraded again, was really impressed, esp coming from a Magni 3/Modi 2 Uber combo.
@martydom9820
@martydom9820 4 жыл бұрын
Love that setup! Thank you for the review, I'm really new to audio and needed a review and found it. Thank you again
@threadripper7902
@threadripper7902 2 жыл бұрын
K5 Pro vs Zen DAC V2?
@jvidia
@jvidia 2 жыл бұрын
I would like to know too
@RichSmithify
@RichSmithify 4 жыл бұрын
Z buddy, you must have been in a particularly shitty mood the day you reviewed this unit. You picked on everything from the power cord to the sticker on the front. So K mate, that's why we love you. Well I bought one anyway and I'm glad I did. Right price, right features, right size, right performance and it fucking sounds great. Keep on chooglin brother!
@iiiraz3riii654
@iiiraz3riii654 4 жыл бұрын
great review keep up the good work. I have just received my fiio k5 pro i was wondering if you could give me some help. I noticed you have the input on COAX/OPTICAL IN is that the best input when using a headset for sound quality over just using the USB input settting? I mainly game so it would be great to know if its worth me buying the extra cables to get the maximum sound quality out of the k5 pro. my headset it is paired up with is beyerdynamic DT 990 PROS TIA.
@trixniisama
@trixniisama 4 жыл бұрын
@@AJM345 But there's a risk of jittering right ?
@iiiraz3riii654
@iiiraz3riii654 4 жыл бұрын
@@AJM345 thanks for the advice. I did end up just sticking with usb. I'm new to this scene of audio Haha thanks again.
@Vonliktenstien
@Vonliktenstien 5 жыл бұрын
The Micca Origen has the switch as well. Gotta love never having to unplug your headphones if you don't want.
@mattrismatt
@mattrismatt 5 жыл бұрын
For casual listening, the Micca Origen is acceptable, but trust me, you'll want to unplug your headphones once you hear how relatively poor-sounding it is. Even the sub-par-sounding FiiO Q1 mkII is noticeably better... and costs less.
@Vonliktenstien
@Vonliktenstien 5 жыл бұрын
mattris matt I just use it for gaming so it’s adequate for sure. Cool thing is it has optical out for when I decide to get something better.
@joontech7715
@joontech7715 4 жыл бұрын
What do you recommend between Topping Dx3 Pro, FiiO K5 Pro and JDS The Element?
@JDS_im
@JDS_im 4 жыл бұрын
I would recommend to base your decision on aesthetics, I/O and features. All 3 of those will sound more or less the same, and drive just about any headphone perfectly well.
@aminfahmi
@aminfahmi 4 жыл бұрын
I am saving up for dx3 pro,but seeing so many reviews of it breaking down made me choose k5 pro.
@junkiexl86
@junkiexl86 4 жыл бұрын
@@aminfahmi I ran the V1 DX3 Pro for 7 months before I upgraded again. Not a single issue on my end. Damn good unit. Was a better DAC than the Modi 2 Uber I had and the Amp though lacked some power, sounded better to my ears than the Magni 3 which was the combo my DX3 Pro replaced.
@aminfahmi
@aminfahmi 4 жыл бұрын
@@junkiexl86 what did you upgrade to?
@junkiexl86
@junkiexl86 4 жыл бұрын
@@aminfahmi Topping D70/THX 789
@christopherstorrier5560
@christopherstorrier5560 6 ай бұрын
The volume pot is analogue...logarythmic pot, should be linear....log pots are terrible...personal taste but i prefer the ESS version .....great for the price....i would have paid $50 bucks more for a balanced 4.4mm Pentacomm headphone output...it is possible to get a balanced output higher up the range....good review as usual.....
@WarEagle256
@WarEagle256 2 жыл бұрын
Stuck on making a decision between the k5 pro or Schiit magni heresey/modi 3+ stack would love some advice. Thanks for the review
@levrac68
@levrac68 2 жыл бұрын
I have the K5 Pro ESS and the Heresey/Modi... Can't go wrong with either since they both sound great, but with the schiit you can add the Loki EQ if that's what you're into or upgrade either the DAC or AMP down the road. Whereas the K5 is all in one, no EQ and no upgrading. For me, I like the K5 better for it's cleaner footprint and more versatile connections. The volume knob is a lot nicer too. I have no problem powering my Sundaras, 660Ss or HD6XXs with either.
@BornIntoThis20
@BornIntoThis20 2 жыл бұрын
@@levrac68 Still no auto switch/mute on the RCA line out when plugging headphones on the ESS version? thanks
@levrac68
@levrac68 2 жыл бұрын
@@BornIntoThis20 correct
@Hailala1
@Hailala1 2 жыл бұрын
@@levrac68 how about K5 pro ESS vs topping dx3 pro+?
@levrac68
@levrac68 2 жыл бұрын
@@Hailala1 I don't have the topping, but I've heard good things about their sound quality. I'm on the fence for an A30 right now.
@travellerseko
@travellerseko 2 жыл бұрын
Hi mate, This is a great review. I try to get info as much as possible. I wanna ask you a question. I’ll have 2 setups, portable and desktop. Can you please tel me if below ones ok? Or any other recommendation? 1) portable: - Ipod 6th gen classic (120 gb apple lossless) - Fiio E10K Olympus - Sennheiser HD569 2) Desktop: - Audio Technica At-lp120x USB Lp player - Fiio K5 Pro - Hifiman HE400se or Sennheiser HD599
@KahviVelho
@KahviVelho 5 жыл бұрын
Should try and get your hands on a Schiit Ragnarok 2. Balanced headphone out claims 24W into 32 ohms. 15W into 50 ohms. Single ended claims 6W into 32 ohms. 3.75W into 50 ohms. Being an integrated amp of sorts it’ll also put 60W into 8 ohm speakers.
@moonmessiah9368
@moonmessiah9368 5 жыл бұрын
V1 is better
@enjoshi-godrez8775
@enjoshi-godrez8775 5 жыл бұрын
@@moonmessiah9368 in what way?
@moonmessiah9368
@moonmessiah9368 5 жыл бұрын
@@enjoshi-godrez8775 V2 is a loudspeaker amp and V1 is meant for headphones and IEMs Schiit even says so. Jack of all trades vs specialized tool. I'd get a V1 and opt for another amp that specializes in loudspeakers instead of trying to save money on an all in one
@enjoshi-godrez8775
@enjoshi-godrez8775 5 жыл бұрын
@@moonmessiah9368 Have you heard both? The v2 is agreed by everyone I've seen to be better for headphones and loudspeakers. If that's the case, why would you ever buy the v1 when the "just an amp" version of the v2 is the same price?
@jhbrett
@jhbrett 4 жыл бұрын
OG K5 does not have a DAC. USB on the back is for the doc connector on top.
@victorjohnson7512
@victorjohnson7512 5 жыл бұрын
I purchased a bunch of those red & gold RCA cables, they are wonderful. And they go perfectly with my red & gold Bellari components.
@nickmimi3631
@nickmimi3631 5 жыл бұрын
I was beginning to think I was the only one who had any Bellari components, i did the same thing w/ those red rca’s!
@Kenny_Edmonton
@Kenny_Edmonton 3 жыл бұрын
Great review. I’m look at the fiio 10k did they send you that one for review? How would it compare to the fiio 5k pro?
@Penpen2crayon
@Penpen2crayon 5 жыл бұрын
I'd been looking for an upgrade to my Origen G2 output power-wise as well as eliminating the extra step of turning the knob fully to 100% when switching over to Pre-amp Out to go to my integrated amp and then onto the passive speakers...yes this has the power and the velvety DAC chip but the fact it outputs to both the quarter inch and the "not actually line-out" RCA outs means the Micca Origen remains on my desk for now
@luizengrazia5169
@luizengrazia5169 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review! Would you recommend going for a K3 with balanced cable or go K5 Pro with unbalanced? I'm going to use it to power a HE400se😅
@pierrebroccoli.9396
@pierrebroccoli.9396 4 жыл бұрын
You are a legend. Listening to you comment on my new Fiio FH5's thanks to your review and my finally crunching the purchase which will make my travels great. Thanks.
@SlkSub323
@SlkSub323 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for review! What device is better: this or Fulla 2?
@avavaviv1
@avavaviv1 9 ай бұрын
$100 for ESS with in 2023. This is the future. Also - if the vaolume starts only after a gap, it eliminates the pre-out defficiency of being turbed on by the wheel, doesn't it?
@GrzegorzMatusinski
@GrzegorzMatusinski 11 күн бұрын
good review, I agree, pre-out is utterly useless and very noisy, unfortunately I bought this thing before watching this review.
@gavrielpapas773
@gavrielpapas773 2 жыл бұрын
I just wanted to hear the final thoughts, so I skipped to 30:00 . I gave you a like and subscribed. Sometimes I just want to hear the end of a review.
@snkmoorthy
@snkmoorthy 5 жыл бұрын
I have an X3 III on K5 dock, doing line out to a speaker. The USB on the back of the K5 is just a pass through to the DAC on the X3 or any other device FiiO makes that is compatible with the K5. Not much advantage to this setup other than it charges the DAP while playing sitting on the K5.
@dougadams3147
@dougadams3147 2 жыл бұрын
I've been using a the K5 with a Fiio E 17k Alpen dac in the dock for years until the battery just blew up on me the other day. I guess I'll get this now. So yeah, I' m the one using the DAC in the old K5. haha.
@KhairiHamed
@KhairiHamed Жыл бұрын
That's about to happen to mine so I'm looking for an upgrade
@ensiferum1992
@ensiferum1992 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, thanks for the detailed video but I still have one question: I have owned a Dragonfly Red for more than two years, but I would like to further improve the sound of both my headphones and my active speakers (Edifier r1700bt) and I would be mainly oriented towards purchase of the Fiio K5 Pro. Do you think it is worth replacing the Dragonfly with the Fiio or would my listening quality remain more or less the same? I would not like to have two identical products and spend money unnecessarily. So ultimately, is the Fiio better / superior than the Dragonfly Red? Thank you.
@loucipher7782
@loucipher7782 3 жыл бұрын
fiio k5 pro is meant to be for headphone only, i never bother to plug my r1700bt into the RCA out because the implementation is a mess
@GrandHeresiarch
@GrandHeresiarch 4 жыл бұрын
The Fiio K5 Pro is disgustingly good value for money. In the past I've spent a lot more money for the same or less listening experience.
@junkiexl86
@junkiexl86 4 жыл бұрын
If the DX3 Pro didn't exist I would agree, esp when it measures far better than the K5 Pro.
@derekw.5108
@derekw.5108 4 жыл бұрын
@@junkiexl86 either relay clicking noise or high output impedance
@d0nj03
@d0nj03 3 жыл бұрын
DX3 Pro costs 50% more, offers only 66% of the max power of the K5, and takes distortion numbers into ridiculous territory, where the difference can't really be heard. A THD+N below 0.005% is already enough to stop worrying about it, going even lower is just showing off.
@rpgPalette
@rpgPalette 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you ! I waited so long for this review ! I don't live in US, that's why I have no possibility to buy JDS or Mayflower, etc... Only choice is "Chinese products".
@KahviVelho
@KahviVelho 5 жыл бұрын
Europe?
@johnyang799
@johnyang799 5 жыл бұрын
@@KahviVelho Europe has JDS. So I guess some Asian country.
@KahviVelho
@KahviVelho 5 жыл бұрын
John Yang Yeah, was just curious as I had some trouble finding retailers for JDS in the UK until recently.
@rpgPalette
@rpgPalette 5 жыл бұрын
@@KahviVelho Ukraine
@AllySandrana
@AllySandrana 5 жыл бұрын
I know that feel, I lived in southeast asia and fiio products are more accesible for me than JDS stuff sadly I could try to import it but the shipping cost and customs would cost me more than the twice of product cost
@ronchinoy
@ronchinoy 9 ай бұрын
The reason I got this unit was because it showed an input option. Which I needed to use with REW to bench my amps for THD. To my utter dismay. When I hooked it up to my laptop. I only got an output option. No input option. Why ?.
@gordonfreeman4491
@gordonfreeman4491 5 жыл бұрын
The 3-poled input cable for the powerbrick is called a MicKey Mouse plug
@philmissy1
@philmissy1 5 жыл бұрын
Clover!
@Atuzor
@Atuzor 4 жыл бұрын
I'm considering purchasing this. I'm not an "audiophile" but I do appreciate above average sound. I just bought Philips X2HR and the V-Moda Boom Pro mic. From what I understand, if I ran the splitter into this amp/dac then the mic into my PC, it would cause a buzz in the mic. Is there any way around this besides getting a different mic? For amp/dac with mic inputs the options seem pretty limited. I do also have some Overnight Sensations at my desk powered by a small Dayton Audio amp so something that I could switch between speakers/headphones would be ideal. Any suggestions for a bit of an audio noob? :D
@nicolashamouche6132
@nicolashamouche6132 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, Many thanks for all your great videos on YT. What do you think between Fiio K5 and IFi Nano black Label? Would it be a good idea to plug a Meze 99 to listen? Or which on budget headset? Regss Nicolas
@nariwashere8549
@nariwashere8549 4 жыл бұрын
Can you tell me how high the Output heaphone impedance for a 250Ohm Headphone is? I wanted to buy these or Schiit Hel or aTopping DX3 Pro?
@dawidg5695
@dawidg5695 3 жыл бұрын
Same
@kineticdyslexic3093
@kineticdyslexic3093 4 жыл бұрын
modi 3 with jds atom amp, or the Fiio K5? Which setup sounds better, and any real difference in amplification output? I currently have the d10 and d30 with the atom. have been thinking about getting the modi 3.
@mac2105
@mac2105 Жыл бұрын
Those Mickey-Mouse power connectors have driven me nuts before as well, that was for another small device (tiny samsung netbook)
@IItechnikaII
@IItechnikaII 5 жыл бұрын
I like the look of it but i wonder if its worth upgrading from my Fostex fs 3da.
@danielthakorlal9425
@danielthakorlal9425 5 жыл бұрын
Great review mate, keep 'em comin'. Quick question(s): what happened to your Panda Stack? Also, perchance will you review the other smsl stack (the white one?)?
@jamesbittle2138
@jamesbittle2138 4 жыл бұрын
I believe he gave it to his brother.
@8lec_R
@8lec_R 4 жыл бұрын
Ok. So these are 150 bucks on Amazon. The JDS atom cost 95 bucks. Should I just get these or should I get the atom and buy a higher end dac later down the road? I want a clean and flat sound. I'll use them with mostly my Superlux HD 660 and sometimes with my IEMs. I mostly game but I want the better quality for mixing dialogue and watching movies. Thanks! 😁
@MeGyChaN3
@MeGyChaN3 3 жыл бұрын
I couldn't find the link for the pen, but I found it thanks.
@Rio-uv1gs
@Rio-uv1gs 3 жыл бұрын
I have a Focusrite 2i2 3 gen AI, and I just bought 250ohm B.dynamics headphones ..What headphone amp or dac/amp would you suggest? ( I have a 2020 IMac 27 inch (Beatmaking & mixing)
@AvikkSharma
@AvikkSharma 3 жыл бұрын
I have the same question! You went for something then and found a difference?
@Rio-uv1gs
@Rio-uv1gs 3 жыл бұрын
@@AvikkSharma I got the atom amp..it works for the setup I mentioned and its not that expensive.
@velko2433
@velko2433 3 жыл бұрын
It is very nice unit, sound great and its plenty of power. I use it with Hifiman HE4XX.
@Golden213Boy
@Golden213Boy 5 жыл бұрын
Yo Zeos, I have the Micca Origin2 on my desk. Do you think this is a needed upgrade/worth switching to?
@MasterGunZ
@MasterGunZ 5 жыл бұрын
In for more info
@lorcro2000
@lorcro2000 5 жыл бұрын
I dunno, the more I think about it the more I think the pre-out is a feature, not a negative. The only thing you need to set up some desktop speakers then becomes a dumb amp without any volume controls. But in that scenario it should definitely either output sound front or back.
@joshuasterling2144
@joshuasterling2144 2 жыл бұрын
I use it for headphones and JBL monitors. Just get a wifi power strip to plug up you powered speakers and sub and your good to go.
@Krishanu
@Krishanu 4 жыл бұрын
11:03 to reduce the distortion fyi
@FreetimeReport
@FreetimeReport 4 жыл бұрын
13:45 For what it's worth, I used to have the original K5 dock. It's listed on Amazon as being (or having) a DAC, but it didn't. It was an amp only. If you own a Fiio DAP (like the X1 or X5 I had), you could put it in the dock, connect the K5 to your computer, and use the docked DAP as your external DAC. I tried and thought it all was meh. Anyway, listing that unit as a DAC/AMP was always misleading.
@POVShotgun
@POVShotgun 3 жыл бұрын
Finally! Same here it’s really misleading. I bought it and spent a solid hour trying the usb to no avail. Realized I bought the k5 instead of the k5 pro. Was pretty annoyed.
@robertbradley6393
@robertbradley6393 3 жыл бұрын
Great review! You taught me things! Thanks Man.
@AllySandrana
@AllySandrana 5 жыл бұрын
Skip to 30:00? no I ended watching it all... and enjoyed the rant WTF FIIO, K5pro suffer like K3 that not having line out / pre out switch Thanks Zeos to point it out, and read it FIIO THIS fuckery made me not wanting K5Pro anymore to upgrade my K3 and yeah, No Balanced... sad really sad
@AllySandrana
@AllySandrana 5 жыл бұрын
@@davidkorcak yeah but sorry I have the K3 and use it for power my iem and low sensivity headphones And use the 'lineout' for my tube amps I need to turn the knob for full line out then I nearly blow out my iem when pluging in acidentally Never want to experience that again
@RusticKey
@RusticKey 4 жыл бұрын
@@davidkorcak It's a problem if you frequently switch between using headphones/IEMs and speakers. It's an extra hassle to remind yourself to either switch the speaker off and then plug your headphones in to listen to the headphones, or plug your headphones out and switch the speakers on. Having one knob control both makes things complicated. Not having a switch is a deal breaker for me. Gonna stick with my E10K for now.
@MegaEpstein
@MegaEpstein 4 жыл бұрын
I have one question. I want to use Line Out only, so the question is - Will analog volume adjustment work with Line Out?
@masterxyr
@masterxyr 4 жыл бұрын
yes, it's actually a pre-out. good for active speakers
@andysmith8902
@andysmith8902 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, you can adjust the line out level with the Volume Knob. I use my K5 Pro as DAC/Preamp to my Denon PMA-1080R class “A” amplifier. Listening HiRes FLAC and WAV files from my laptop, sounds like heaven.
@mareksarnovsky2731
@mareksarnovsky2731 4 жыл бұрын
Is FiiO K5 Pro AMP/DAC in one unit ?
@shayan-gg
@shayan-gg 3 жыл бұрын
it also has a fleshlight builtin
@jesusacosta3505
@jesusacosta3505 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing a great job at Rocky Mountain Audio Show. I enjoyed all the work you guys did .
@fabienlarvor8283
@fabienlarvor8283 5 жыл бұрын
Balance is actually worse for fidelity. The main advantage is, for portable products, that a balanced output can get twice the gain with similar input voltage. From a pure audio quality standpoint, Fiio choice makes absolute sense.
@thenarrator1921
@thenarrator1921 5 жыл бұрын
Why is that
@angelosnofla
@angelosnofla 4 жыл бұрын
I am planning to use this on my desktop and pair this with my AKG 7xx for music and gaming. Thanks for the review... Btw, I always imagine that you look like Jack Black. hehehehe
@SL1PSTAR
@SL1PSTAR 3 жыл бұрын
Did you get this amp? If so how is the experience?
@angelosnofla
@angelosnofla 3 жыл бұрын
@@SL1PSTAR Yup. This pairs up well with K7xx. I love it. Don't see any reason to replace it any time soon.
@SL1PSTAR
@SL1PSTAR 3 жыл бұрын
@@angelosnofla Excellent!! Thank you for the response.
@hristiantodorov3923
@hristiantodorov3923 4 жыл бұрын
Can you modify the EQs on the PC and then output it through the USB to the Fiio ?
@BadHairDecade
@BadHairDecade 5 жыл бұрын
🤚 I use the dock on the top of my k5.
@fokboy
@fokboy 5 жыл бұрын
any good? worth it ?
@BadHairDecade
@BadHairDecade 5 жыл бұрын
@@fokboy I haven't listened to any other amps so I can't really say, that's why I watch Z. The whole reason I went with it is because I already had a fiio x5ii, so I bought it specifically because of the dock. It has plenty of power to drive my HiFiman he400i and it's the best sound I've found yet but I only have a few headphones and only 1 amp.
@c2cthomas
@c2cthomas 4 жыл бұрын
On sale at Amazon for $150 bucks - 23 April 2020
@1Patient
@1Patient 5 жыл бұрын
Zeos has a lot of work ahead 😀
@Nordraw
@Nordraw 2 жыл бұрын
A lot of extra nonsense in your reviews but you get to the point and end up doing a good job.
@dhanslee
@dhanslee 4 жыл бұрын
If I connect my speakers through the pre-out, it produces noticeable hiss sound that is audible in both speakers and headphone. I'm not sure if it's my unit that is defect or not. If I don't use the pre-out, the hiss sound is gone completely.
@neferiusnexus
@neferiusnexus 5 жыл бұрын
Speaking of chipsets... I wonder if the AE-7 is worth upgrading from the AE-5
@kellerkind6661
@kellerkind6661 4 жыл бұрын
is the difference in soundquality compared to the fiio k3 worth 50 bucks more if you´re on a budget?
@alberto798
@alberto798 5 жыл бұрын
Just bought it yesterday lol For europeans its a must buy, cause JDS doesn't sell here, so there isn't any rival
@MosoKaiser
@MosoKaiser 5 жыл бұрын
Good that you mentioned where the TL;DW part starts, but to be honest, you could really use working off of some kind of script or framework. Over half an hour? You could have gotten all the meaningful stuff said and shown in around _third_ of that time. Oh well, at least you're not wasting time doing editing & stuff.
@itsmedravfrom1987
@itsmedravfrom1987 5 жыл бұрын
So are argons mk3 single ended on jds labs atom a bad idea?
@jeffberg8015
@jeffberg8015 4 жыл бұрын
Damn. I've been using the K3 for quite a while but wanted to boost the power so just ordered an JDS Atom which will probably be fine, but after seeing this I'm having a little buyer's remorse.
@jordanvladimirov8448
@jordanvladimirov8448 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Z , can you tell me, Topping MX3 or FiiO K5 Pro is better for home PC/Music/Game/Movie headset amp/dac ?
@Randon03
@Randon03 4 жыл бұрын
Moving your head like that - so much is making me dizzy... but i like your review thank you!
@rehakmate
@rehakmate 2 жыл бұрын
I got a little confused with the RCA line out part, so can I use these as a DAC to my stereo amp via RCA?
@joshuasterling2144
@joshuasterling2144 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I use it for powered monitors and you could run it to a input for an amp as well.
@Xeltos
@Xeltos 3 жыл бұрын
Would this be alright with the Kanto TUK? Currently using a AudioEngine D1 i had lying around with the optical hooked into my TV and then the RCA into my TUKs. Works great but i have the Sundaras and i find i could use about 15-20% more volume as i find i'm maxing the volume on the D1 on alot of songs.
@chongweihong2028
@chongweihong2028 4 жыл бұрын
FiiO K3 or FiiO K5 Pro?
@GrandHeresiarch
@GrandHeresiarch 4 жыл бұрын
K3 for IEMs or your ATH-MSR7b type portable wired headphones. K5 pro for everything else. I have both units.
@milanmilasinovic6711
@milanmilasinovic6711 Жыл бұрын
What would you say comparing this one to the Ifi Zen DAC V2?
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