Schiit Magni 3+ Vs Heresy _(Z Reviews)

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@Ducksnuget 3 жыл бұрын

After watching every review on these amps, no one agrees what’s different about them.

@sarmehdi 3 жыл бұрын

Same. Came here from Joshua's video on these and he also couldn't differentiate between these two.

@MaaZeus 3 жыл бұрын

Because probably there isn't one. I mean there probably is a slight difference because of their different design and how they react to volume and gain changes, but in the end they do the same thing: take a signal, amplify it and give enough juice to the headphones. In this case exactly the same amount of juice. The basic difference is that do you want an oldschool discrete style amplifier because you get OCD from opamps as they MAY alter the sound (opamp rolling is a thing, they can be switched like tubes) or can you accept the fact that technology can move forward and you can do the same thing, or even better measurably, in smaller opamp chips and simpler overall circuit design.

@NFStopsnuf Жыл бұрын

There is no difference because there shouldn’t be one.

@hungryhungryhummer 4 жыл бұрын

Moral of the story: Get the pretty one.

@user-vx1wt4hb5l 4 жыл бұрын

Yup thats what i'm doing.

@Michael-qi8tt 3 жыл бұрын

I was thinking about that. Now i'm going to do it thanks.

@ramencurry6672 3 жыл бұрын

True. Picking one boils down to psychological reasons. I’m getting the Heresy since it measures most accurate. Purely psychological reason even though it really doesn’t matter which one to get.

@aszbzpszbz9786 3 жыл бұрын

This. This Shiit is getting ridiculous. Just color mach it with your dac and call it a day.

@heres_the_sauce 3 жыл бұрын

@@user-vx1wt4hb5l they both pretty tho. Get the goth one

@MrDowntemp0 3 жыл бұрын

I was researching Schiit's amps specifically because I need more juice from my GSX1000, so damn was I surprised when you mentioned recommending this amp to someone who was having that very specific problem in this video!

@skrounst 3 жыл бұрын

12:40 "MOOOOOMMMMMM! Uncle Zeos hit me!" 😫😫😭😭

@BxrHavik 2 жыл бұрын

Zeos is the only youtuber ever that can talk about audio tech and make you laugh your ass off at the same time lol.

@STatic4009 4 жыл бұрын

The fulla, hel, and magni Hersey are the same design. They just scale up with amplification with more op amps respectively. The magni 3+ is a sexy implementation of a class A/B amplifier.

@selbi182 4 жыл бұрын

If you say these amps just scale up with amplification, does that mean sensitive headphones that don't require a lot of power (Fidelio X2, namely) won't benefit much from, say, a Heresy over a Fulla?

@STatic4009 4 жыл бұрын

@@selbi182 I have the fulla and literally if you have headphones that are below 75 ohms ( guessing on my moddest collection) you literally can't tell the difference. On IEMs with the heresy, you can barely use 1/4 of the volume nob with the kz zs10 pro's. So the fulla is fine. Literally the only difference on the amplification side is how many cascading op amps you have for amplification. Only thing that the heresy will give you is the ability to use a different DAC and put a EQ in the middle for lower impedance headphones. If you game and want a simple setup I keep going back too, fulla 3 + Sennheiser pc37x and know you have a setup that sounds as good as a schiit stack without extra power you don't need.

@heythere6983 3 жыл бұрын

People talk about e sounds of these as being very good but these are amps so would the modi 3 produce a better sound/soundstage than these seeing it is a dac specifically and these are just amps?

@RichCurtis-661 3 жыл бұрын

"I'm a human A/B switch" LOL Great Review!

@l33tsauce79 4 жыл бұрын

Watched this before I got into the game. Back with DT 1990s and the schiit stack magni heresy and modi3. my wife and 6 year old are now audiophiles too. Rip wallet

@EndersFPS 3 жыл бұрын

What do you run your heresy with the dt 1990’s? High or low gain?

@l33tsauce79 3 жыл бұрын

@@EndersFPS low gain for casual listening and most games. High gain for intense fps listening and stuff to hear footsteps.

@oakfig 3 жыл бұрын

@@l33tsauce79 I just got dt 770 pro, Wich one of these would you recommend?

@l33tsauce79 3 жыл бұрын

@@oakfig it's personal preference but I chose the heresy because looks and because the data sheet technically has better specs

@PrincessPastaAudio 4 жыл бұрын

Hello I was told to yell.

@johnnygeorgopoulos4072 4 жыл бұрын

Hello Paastah!

@PrincessPastaAudio 4 жыл бұрын

Jon George hi friend!

@JonathanDano 4 жыл бұрын

PASTA! YOU HAVE TO USE CAPS TO YELL

@PrincessPastaAudio 4 жыл бұрын

Jonathan Dano BUT IM A NICE GIRL

@dmerc112 4 жыл бұрын

Paastah plz plz link to those RCA splitters thank you thank you

@Scarcazym 4 жыл бұрын

2 mins in, and I have motion sickness

@Kenoji8 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this series of videos, Z. I actually owned a TP21 amp for years and years and years (way before your review of it), but never used it much (as the headphones I've had were "meh" and I never had a desire to). And since I've followed you, I've gotten my hands on a decent amount of budget-level cans (like the Bowers & Wilkins P7) and great audio information that I wish I had many, many years ago. Needless to say, after this amp series and going back and seeing your scathing review on the TP21...I decided it was time to retire it, lololololololol, especially considering what modern amps can do nowadays. So thanks to you, I decided to pick up the Heresy and it should be here soon (along with a shiny new German pair of 2nd Gen B&O BeoPlay H6s). Thanks again for your videos! :)

@TitaniumSenshi 4 жыл бұрын

"It's the Vayeate and Mercurius all over again..." My man! I was always a Vayeate guy, myself.

@austingreen6042 3 жыл бұрын

Original Transformers 'jetfire' still wins ! 😅

@Npcubed33 4 жыл бұрын

It's almost like Schitt has gotten into an Endless Waltz with itself

@TheBeelzebub 4 жыл бұрын

Zeos! How about you test the headphones most likely the people who are in the market for $100 amps will use? Most people buying $100 amps have $150-350 cans. I don't think people looking for a $100 amp are going to have $1100 or even $500 cans.

@kendil22 4 жыл бұрын

The flip side to that is with the headphones he's using it's far easier to hear and identify flaws. The JDS atom for example tends to sound fine with low end or high end headphones... as long as it has the power to properly drive them. The reality is if these amps can run the cans he's using, your lower end stuff'll be fine. All I'm getting out of this video is stick with the JDS atom or Liquid Spark in the $100 bracket. Or just do what I did and say screw it and buy the SMSL SP200.

@chadashton7029 4 жыл бұрын

I'd love to see how the HE 4XX pairs with each of these although I probably wouldn't get either one anyways. I have a Magni2 Uber and I like it a lot but I feel like the HE 4XX needs a bit more power so I've been contemplating getting a THX AAA 789 or SMSL SP200 and getting some balanced cables and really push some power to these things.

@googulisevilscum 4 жыл бұрын

@@kendil22 I decided to have both! That Liquid Spark is a sweet amp though!

@ZE0SPantera 4 жыл бұрын

Like Kendll22 said. i need to use headphones I know. I only have one or two cheaper cans that I think people will have. The 58x come out for the round-up video.

@a9b4cgd4 4 жыл бұрын

Those fostex are just under $150.

@pblogic007 4 жыл бұрын

Alright... I grabbed a heresy after watching this, and I've been enjoying it with my HD650's..... Today I plugged in Grado SR225, flipped down to low gain, and started listening. It wasn't bad, I was enjoying myself... and then the Ghost of Zeos past starting whispering in my ear about the wacky gain stuff on these amps and I decided to flip it up to high gain. Holy Grado, it made these things pop and sparkle. Interesting.

@musicxxa6678 4 жыл бұрын

Probably because of the volume. Humans are sensitive to even 0.1db in a subconcious level. Low gain offers cleaner signal, it's superior.

@NFStopsnuf Жыл бұрын

Placebo takes another victim

@Cell2O1135 4 жыл бұрын

Hell yeah gundam wing reference.

@nhblackdc5 4 жыл бұрын

I got that too. Looks like I'm getting HD6XX'S and a Heresy.

@subbot8077 3 жыл бұрын

Just ordered a Heresy, thanks Zeos!

@Girz0r 4 жыл бұрын

"Yea but Z, I has the X2HR and my..."

@subliminalgoat3972 4 жыл бұрын

This is why I use an amp like the Garage1217 Project Polaris. Each headphone responds differrntly to various gain, resistance, amps, etc. I like having the ability to adjust to headphones rather than judging headphones based on just high/low gain settings.

@shawnpwatsons1 4 жыл бұрын

Very interesting thought.

@johnnymcmeans4449 2 жыл бұрын

I just got the heresy for my shop 9500 and enjoy them. It is my first headphone amp so I have nothing to compare it to other than my home theater receiver. (Laugh if you want but I am new to the headphone thing.)

@Smaug1 Жыл бұрын

How does it sound compared to the AVR? Worth buying a special headphone amp?

@johnnymcmeans4449 Жыл бұрын

@@Smaug1 It sounds great. I use it for my iPad and laptop. I was using my AVR when i did not feel like bothering my kids at night.

@misterjones8822 4 жыл бұрын

Speaking of Zechs and headphones, I highly recommend the Mars Volta offshoot called Zechs Marquise.

@davidgamble5756 4 жыл бұрын

Keep going mate,great for insomnia

@vicentevargas6755 4 жыл бұрын

If instead of buying both, and sell one, get the Asgard 3 which is 200 bucks?

@tenveri 4 жыл бұрын

You can buy both and return one though, pretty hassle-free. effectively saving $100

@FabioKasper 4 жыл бұрын

You'll have to discount shipping costs, which you'll be paying at all times. My hint when purchasing from Schiit: concentrate (plan) your purchase. It's $20-30 per shipping and that cost sums up over time. PS.: At amazon, shipping cost is embedded in final price (at least the times I've checked).

@selbi182 4 жыл бұрын

@@tenveri Not so simple for those living outside America. European Schiit resellers are rare, understocked, and have very shady return policies.

@pblogic007 4 жыл бұрын

@@FabioKasper You can buy these from amazon prime. They are 119 but you won't pay return shipping and you'll get the full 119 back on the one you return. Much smarter way to try them.

@Dougie085 4 жыл бұрын

So it seems you tested this with the HD600's, I just ordered the HD6XX's and was looking at the Magni and wasn't sure which would be better for these headphones lol. So I'm guessing the heresey should be better for the HD6XX's, at least I would guess it'd be similar to the HD600's.

@electroelysium2281 4 жыл бұрын

Or get a Magni 2. I like the Magni 2 better than both of 'em.

@doomworship4995 4 жыл бұрын

I just ordered the Heresy for my HD650 (modded). I’ll let you know how they sound.

@nabilhamza71 4 жыл бұрын

@@doomworship4995 so how do they sound

@VidVayder 4 жыл бұрын

@@doomworship4995 How do they sound then?

@doomworship4995 4 жыл бұрын

Not enough power. Sounds muddy and vailed to me on the HD650. I have now bought so many cheap solid state amps, and none of them have worked good with the HD650. You need to spend money on a good, and very powerful amp to make them sing. But when you give them power, ohh do they sing. I am going to go ahead and call it. For the HD650/HD6XX you need an OTL Tube Amp. Get the SCHIIT Valhalla or a Darkvoice 336SE. I own both, I like the Darkvoice Better, but only after I spent $80 on tubes. At that price, you can get the Valhalla and need nothing else. But the Darkvoice is more powerful. And if you feel like tube rolling, you only need to purchase a single pre amp tube instead of two. BTW, after having both the Magni 3+ and the Heresy side by side, I have to tell you the Magni3+ sounds better overall. Neutral Warm. While the Heresy is a little shouty. I understand now what Schiit says about better measurements doesn’t always mean better sounding. The Heresy measures as good an distortion free and low noise as way more expensive amps. Yet the Magni3+ is more enjoyable and less fatiguing. So that gets my vote. But if your main headphones are the HD650/HD6XX? Get a Darkvoice.

@joestock732 3 жыл бұрын

At least I know my Sennheiser HD600 sounds great on the Heresy. I made the right choice. Got a Heresy Modi Stack and fucking love it. Good work Z. Love your work.

@pc_decisions8764 4 жыл бұрын

Sounds like Zeos run "Heresy" in his review.

@jonathanr2830 3 жыл бұрын

I am grinning from ear to ear with my new Magni Heresy and Modi 3+ and HD 600. My plan is to now get a Magni 3+, Modi Multibit, and Loki Mini+. I agree with you about the Heresy and how interesting to compare these headphone amps that are so similar, but with different topologies and variant sound depending on headphones, gain, and volume settings. For me, getting both is a no-brainer, because of the flexibility to use and enjoy whatever suits my mood on any given day. Thank you for your review! Good one.

@mauricioyoung6668 2 жыл бұрын

Have you gotten your new stack yet? I’m looking to get the same 3 pieces of schiit. Would love to hear how it’s performing and how is your Loki mini treating ya

@jonathanr2830 2 жыл бұрын

@@mauricioyoung6668 I seriously enjoyed my Magni Heresy and Modi 3 with my Sennheiser HD600 headphones for several months. The sound was perfect to my ears. Loved that setup, and was gearing up to get the Magni 3 and Loki Mini+, when personal circumstances led me to give my setup to a relative who had gone without good gear and sound for decades. I knew how good it really was and how right my decision to gift them when I demonstrated the setup to my relative during a visit. His eyes nearly teared up, and he wanted to keep listening for a long time, going through his favorite playlist of music from multiple genres. So, I am back to square one, and planning to again get the Heresy and Magni 3/Modi 3/Loki Mini + stack. You simply cannot go wrong with the Magni Heresy/Modi 3 stack, and my confidence is solid that the same would go with the Magni 3 and Loki Mini +. All the best!

@mauricioyoung6668 2 жыл бұрын

@@jonathanr2830 Thats awesome dude! Glad you were able to gift your cuz something like that!! I'm still getting my feet wet in hifi, my coworker gave me a dragonfly red and I've been using it with my Blon-03's. Looking forward to getting my stack though, I'll most likely get the magni and loki first and just use my dragonfly as the dac for now. Thanks for the reply, take care homie!

@ChicagoRob2 3 жыл бұрын

I have both amps, and they are different. The Magni 3+ is definitely smoother.

@johnnygeorgopoulos4072 4 жыл бұрын

Oh good, I already have a Heresy and my T50RP'S are(should be) arriving today lol. Still planning on buying one of those THX amps though, was interested in the A-100 but she's been discontinued, so better sound with less power I guess for me?

@MazeFrame 4 жыл бұрын

As far as I can tell from the huge "Add to Cart"-button on Emotiva's website, the A-100 still exists. Let me give you another word of advise with the T50RPs and A-100: You don't need the A-100, it is just chasing the last 1%

@Camride 4 жыл бұрын

Do yourself a favor and just go ahead and order the Mayflower mod kit. It's easy to do it yourself and made a great headphone so much better. I have had my T50RPs for over 3 years (modded them a few weeks after I bought them) and it's still my go-to headphones. I use them more than anything else I own, I love them so much.

@Zalionn 4 жыл бұрын

@@Camride Why are they still your go-to headphones? What do you like about them?

@jasperjones6857 11 ай бұрын

Your review of FX Audio DAC-X6 got me to pull the trigger. My previous setup was using really old computer speakers with a headphone jack. That setup gets louder all the way up. But the new FX headphone "amp" is bad news. It's much quieter. You can't overdrive the phones to distortion. (And I've tried Koss, Timeless, the OG Tin P1, etc.) The volume stops increasing about 6. It doesn't get any louder at 10. So now I'm considering one of these S. amps!

@gnd144 4 жыл бұрын

Thumbs up, thanks for listing items below vid.

@sponrex3528 4 жыл бұрын

Hi Z! I have a DT 770 250 ohms, Magni 3+ or 3 Heresy? Great review as always!

@Sashik 3 жыл бұрын

Which one you get? How's the experience with Beyerdynamic on magni amp?

@Assimilator702 4 жыл бұрын

Schiit designed them so you have to buy both. They state on their website anyone would be happy with either as their both designed well but to base your purchase on your priority of design topology. I’ll pick up a Heresey to sample my first worthy op amp design.

@twistiv 4 жыл бұрын

I bought both of them to compare, and the HD6XXs sound much better with the Heresy

@sleepbelts 4 жыл бұрын

Robert Twist IV thank you for this! been trying to decide which one to get for my 6xx

@twistiv 4 жыл бұрын

@@sleepbelts Glad I could help! The general consensus is that the Magni 3+ sounds better on low gain and the Heresy sounds better on high gain. The HD6XXs need high gain, so the best choice is the Heresy. I'm still using my Heresy to this day and I love it, good luck! :)

@JohnnySlap 4 жыл бұрын

so, should I use the Heresy on high gain with my 650?

@twistiv 4 жыл бұрын

@@JohnnySlap Yes, it amplifies a bit better on high gain rather than cranking it on low gain

@nhblackdc5 4 жыл бұрын

@@sleepbelts if you just watched til the end of the review Zeos says that.

@KlipschHead281 4 жыл бұрын

I just bought the Schiit stack Magni 3+, Modi and Loki, I spent 3 weeks trying to decide between the 3+ and Heresy, never thought to buy both, so pulling the trigger on the Heresy now, why not. Damn you. :)

@heythere6983 3 жыл бұрын

Does the modi upgrade the sound of the magni? Alone does the modi sound better than the magni alone? I always hear people mention the magni sound but don’t hear much about the modi

@KlipschHead281 3 жыл бұрын

@@heythere6983 - The Magni is a headphone amp, the Modi is a DAC so it depends on the way you would use them, check out Schiit's website, you'll see everything you need to know about.

@andrewnorris5415 4 жыл бұрын

Hey there. If you are listening Z I've got a cool idea for you. Re: psychology in music perception. Why not have a box into which you put equipment into so cannot tell what listening to. You could have a friend to put items to review into it, not telling you which is in which box. Can then compare them! That way it can be used to give guaranteed un-biased reviews. Could be the first KZfaqr to do this? I think we would all benefit. Would be cool. I think you are pretty good at seeing beyond the psychology, but this would ensure it, next level in reviewing. This is more for amps and dacs, it's harder to hide headphones!

@stanisawszczypua9076 4 жыл бұрын

Yeahh, like that ever gone happen. LOL. Haven't you heard this legend about some dudes that organized demonstration of speaker wires from brand new company, and invited well known audiophiles to judge the difference between normal wires and those new ones? Grup of hard core audiophiles then spend half an hour on describing subtle nuances between them. After 30 minutes they were told that "normal" wires were in fact from well respected manufacturer and "new product from new company " were just a a pair of wire clothes hangers that were straightened and used instead of wires.

@andrewnorris5415 4 жыл бұрын

@@stanisawszczypua9076 haha, good point. I like to think Z is better than that though. Recall something similar with modern art. They made up that it was by a famous artist when really it was just some random guy who splashed some paint on a canvas in 30 seconds. They went on about how good it was, using technical terms lol.

@edwilliams3321 4 жыл бұрын

Then someone would put a Schiit in the box and thats all she wrote. Really anticipating good things for their inevitable Grande range.

@spud1300 4 жыл бұрын

To make your schiit even more confusing, how does it compare to the Hel? Seems it would have more functionality and allow for use straight from a PC. Compare that schiit!!

@3d-speakers945 4 жыл бұрын

Imma buy the Heresy, I have the fostex t50rp mkIII and the audio technica m40x I wanted to but the t20 rp.. so seems like a good idea.

@xElectricZzGaming 4 жыл бұрын

I have the Magni 3+ driving my 58x jubilees, I think the low gain sounds warmer and more interesting because it seems to distort the sound a bit but the high gain comes out clear and detailed. Glad I got it as my first headphone amp, really happy with it.

@tinocabral4201 4 жыл бұрын

I am getting the jubilees and couldn’t decide which amp to get so this is good news for me

@etcetera662 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing. I've got a Magni 3+ and a pair of 58x Jubilees on the way to me and this video had me a little worried I should have gotten a Heresy.

@d7mx623 4 жыл бұрын

Zeos which one for my dt990?

@milanfpv5099 4 жыл бұрын

If you have nothing you should also get a dac so better get a dac amp combo like FiiO K5 Pro or Topping DX3 Pro

@RK-MODE 4 жыл бұрын

I had the same question.

@je6980 4 жыл бұрын

I have the same question!

@l33tsauce79 4 жыл бұрын

I got the heresy for my 990s literally based on measurements alone.

@dominicstephens3445 4 жыл бұрын

I am curious what you have to say about the Schiit Hel.. I had just purchased one but haven't received it yet but was just curious to see what you would have to say about it.

@mavelaw 4 жыл бұрын

So the Heresy would be best for the HD660S, given they are a fit with the HD600s? @Z Reviews

@TsunTzu 4 жыл бұрын

M-da. Nice choice of background, sir. Guy's an awesome artist. Also, went with Heresy and Modi 3. Excellent combo. Have it running off a splitter with a Liquid Spark too. The Schiits are black so they match my aesthetic. Might have gotten a Magni 3+ if it was offered in black at the time, but eh.

@chiguazo 4 жыл бұрын

heresy: (more detail), 3+: (smoothness)

@hifiguy77 4 жыл бұрын

@Z Reviews Thank you for the detailed review! I have been looking for an entry level HP amp and leaning toward a Schiit (probably the Heresy). I am a bit concerned over the varying playback quality you experienced depending on the headphone you where using. What price point / brands /models would you recommend moving up to that would have greater consistency across different headphones? Thank you for sharing your knowledge with all of us enthusiast.

@TheMuricanMerc 3 жыл бұрын

Sounds like there is a spot for a community spreadsheet (curated by Zeos) for which one is better with which can.

@MortisObscura 4 жыл бұрын

Looking at the PCBs on their website, the magni 3+ is supposed to have an LED on it, so yours might be borked. Also the differences between the two circuit boards is pretty massive, even someone who doesn't know anything about circuitry can tell. If I could find out what model the black chips are on the heretical edition pcb, I'd beable to say the exact difference in construction but the pictures they took of it are way too blurry to find out.

@pengowando8325 3 жыл бұрын

THX00 sounds really phenomenal on Heresy. Bass drums punch right through my asshole. Somehow better on low gain... how this is possible within 1 amp I do not know.

@TripleEhEnt 3 жыл бұрын

Just ordered a heresy with a Black Modi 3 as well for my TH-X00 Ebony's, I hope you're right!

@pengowando8325 3 жыл бұрын

@@TripleEhEnt Let me know how it goes :)

@Rsalmond83 2 жыл бұрын

@@TripleEhEnt So…results?

@TripleEhEnt 2 жыл бұрын

@@Rsalmond83 It's a great little stack, and pairs well with my TH-X's. I also use them with a pair of Presonus E5 studio monitors, and have no complaints at all. Overall super happy with the stack.

@geekgeek23 4 жыл бұрын

But Zeos! I have the Sennheiser HD 660S... And i love them. Thanks for your great Videos!

@unbekannterkant 3 жыл бұрын

So what AMP you have?

@xophere 3 жыл бұрын

Hey Zeos what about the MMX300 and the 58X? Thanks. Hi PP!

@onik649 4 жыл бұрын

let's hope he replies, so I've had the schiit stack for abt a month now and thinking about upgrading to something 2x the price to get the most out of the 1990 pro. around 4-450$ is it worth it and would I notice a difference? if so what's a good stack?

@qwertypwnown 4 жыл бұрын

Just tape $400 to your headphones lol

@EssenceofPureFlavor 4 жыл бұрын

Stay Schiit, go Asgard.

@m4nc1n1 4 жыл бұрын

I just ordered the Schiit Magni 3+ and the Heresy lol (2.4w at 32ohm btw)

@Ahcelaht 2 жыл бұрын

Which is best for the HD560S? Lol, and for gaming?

@HPMIKE55 4 жыл бұрын

@Z Reviews Great job bro! when you have time can you show how to set up a MiniDSP HD. I have a powered speaker that doesn't have a sub out & yes I know you make 1 before but I still need a little help! ;-) lol

@ZE0SPantera 4 жыл бұрын

I mean. You need to teach yourself how the App works. Once that makes sense from just fucking with it.. All will become clear.

@yasserouacha6299 3 жыл бұрын

@@ZE0SPantera Please can you tell me which amp is better suited for Sundara : Topping a50/a50s or schiit heresy. Thank you.

@homeboi808 4 жыл бұрын

The Heresy is about as good as the Atom, but has a bit more power depending on impedance. The two models have different volume control accuracy, hence why the similar power in different gains may sound a bit different.

@mattfarrar5472 4 жыл бұрын

Any have 58Xs and either one of these?? or can say which one if either would be better?? Edit: I replaced the pads on my 58Xs with Elite Velour's and got a Little Dot MKII(coupled with a SMSL DAC)with a set GE JAN5654Ws and a set of Voshkod 6ZH1P-EVs and for me it's perfect!

@BlakebuckleyKBF43 4 жыл бұрын

I have 58Xs as well and the HD6xx and I really want to know which amp will be better so if someone can answer plz

@Villaboy78 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah but Zeos I have the Dan Clarke Audio aeon 2 closed and the magni3+ and I HAVE NO DESIRE TO CHANGE Is there something wrong with me? Love the channel - this was my fave review vid for ages 💗

@kobitsakis 3 жыл бұрын

I was thinking to buy to aeon closed x from massdrop. How are these with metal or edm/hardstyle??

@Villaboy78 3 жыл бұрын

@@kobitsakis not heard the massdrops personally but I did end up changing the magni 3+ to a Burson

@StevenLynn 4 жыл бұрын

Wait, what about IEMs? I have the T2's. Which should I use? /waits_for_amazon_to_deliver_789_and_drop_to_deliever_SendyAudio

@bhavinderjassar6394 4 жыл бұрын

We need a budget closed/open over ear headphone shootout.

@nosegod8094 4 жыл бұрын

Well, we already know the open back winner, so maybe just a closed back

@nosegod8094 3 жыл бұрын

@@Noneya409 yeah shp 9500 (haven't tried 9600) for like $60 they're crazy good. Honestly best open back under $100, if not $150

@JisMortal 4 жыл бұрын

You should give the new Hel and Fulla a review. Budget gaming Dac/amps. With mic passthrough

@ZE0SPantera 4 жыл бұрын

I bought the Fulla 3. Need to get the Hel and the Asgard 3

@JisMortal 4 жыл бұрын

ZeosPantera nice

@STatic4009 4 жыл бұрын

@@ZE0SPantera if you keep the magni's around a little longer I'm sure you will find the Asguard 3 and magni 3+ sound the same. Where the fulla 3, hel, and heresy (low gain) will all sound the same.

@jman2101 Күн бұрын

HD 600's seem to work on the Heresy, Will the HD 6xx 's have enough power to work well?

@brydon10 4 жыл бұрын

Just get whatever colour you like better. I personally don't like the black and red colour scheme very much (even though it measures better).

@manuelgaring7793 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Sir, Just want to know your thoughts if the Schiit Magni Heresy + Schiit Modi Multibit are a good match with the Sennheiser HD-6XX? Thank you.

@aimanmj 3 жыл бұрын

Maybe IDK 😐

@crazyeyecarl 3 жыл бұрын

Was that Gundam Wing? They got them P-Bandai's comin out soon. Anyway. I'm stuck on this choice. I don't know which one to get, and I can't buy them both. Right now I have to buy one, wait a month, buy a dac.

@michaeldee1031 4 жыл бұрын

“Z”, do you still have your magni 3(not plus) around? Do they use the same 15vac1500ma brick or the old 14vac 1500ma brick? (searched your magni 2/2U/3 video and they used 14vac brick) If your old mangni 3 uses the 14vac brick, would there be any sonic differences if you use the 15vac brick of the 3+ on the 3?

@totoro6214 2 жыл бұрын

"medical bills which haven't happened yet" LOL

@timothywindmiller1015 Ай бұрын

Ok, so what headphones would you suggest a 'beginner' audiophile start with? I have a pair of koss pro4aa that I've used for 6+ years and want to get something more comfortable and lighter in weight. I prefer circumaural. My budget is sub $200 ideally, but I'd go a little bit higher for something substantially better. I don't have an amp... Should I add an amp to these before trying new headphones? *I got these koss pro4aa heaphones new.

@Padybu 4 жыл бұрын

I'm considering getting the DT1990 pros with a passive in line filter that fixes the highs. Which amp here should I go for, I'm guessing the heresy?

@squidwardstesticles5914 4 жыл бұрын

You’re not hallucinating, the old magnis did have power leds on the front. My magni 2 (non-uber) has a white led on the front and an orange led on the inside. I like the detail of making the led red on the heresy though, but it’s dumb that they removed it on the 3+

@aaronmak1208 3 жыл бұрын

Recommendation for Beyerdynamic DT 990 pro (250 ohm) & DT 770 (80 ohm)? I have the fulla 3, thinking to upgrade to either a heresy or magni 3+ with a modi3+.

@caseyfitz2136 4 жыл бұрын

I have a monolith liquid spark.. do you think its worth the upgrade to one of these? using sennheiser 6xx

@JOSE263 4 жыл бұрын

Lmao nice zeos ur great!!!

@Baphometus666 4 жыл бұрын

Again with this gain thing. If you can go loud enough on low gain, then high gain is not going to send more power into the headphone once the volume is set at the same loudness. All that "only high gain for t50rp variants" is BS, you are just making it louder and think that it "sounds better". At the same matched volume, there is no difference between high and low gain (potentially more noise in high gain actually).

@NiklasNobody 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, both measure slightly worse in high gain than low gain when outputting the same power, see the test by Audio Science Review.

@LagaduPT 4 жыл бұрын

That's just objectively false. Most amps regulate high/low gain by applying more negative feedback to the signal, which by definition changes it. This is electronics 101.

@Baphometus666 4 жыл бұрын

@@LagaduPT It might add noise or distortion, yes. If you think that makes for better sound than an actual recording, go ahead. But at the same listening volume, there is no extra "juice" or other magical properties added by gain switch.

@squidwardstesticles5914 4 жыл бұрын

I have a schiit stack v2 non-uber, and I’m very happy with it and don’t plan on upgrading, but fuck I wish I could have it in black and red. The classic silver and grey schiit design looks great, but my whole desk setup is black and red themed, so the heresy with a matching modi (if they make that? Idk) would look way better

@AndyP126 4 жыл бұрын

Schiit needs to put the power and gain switches on the front. Having them on the back is a huge PITA.

@BrianOblivionB 4 жыл бұрын

Kinda ruin the look though

@wes008pwns 4 жыл бұрын

I'm torn on this because they'd be so much more functional with the switches on the front, but the facia is so beautiful as-is.

@ZE0SPantera 4 жыл бұрын

They are even removing the power indicator LED from the front according to the top comment here. I await the complete removal of the volume knob.

@AndyP126 4 жыл бұрын

@@BrianOblivionB Form over function is not acceptable.

@AndyP126 4 жыл бұрын

@@ZE0SPantera Next model will have hidden capacitive touch buttons for volume up and down.

@Jootunn 4 жыл бұрын

"WHich obscure headphone from the 90s...." Me with my 1976 Yanaha HP-1s: lmao

@wallofhooliganism5173 4 жыл бұрын

I was looking at this review because I was considering using it to power my Wharfedale ID1 :D

@Jootunn 4 жыл бұрын

@@wallofhooliganism5173 Classics unite!

@SnowFootprints96 4 жыл бұрын

I want to upgrade from my magni 2 I got forever ago to one of these. Now I have no idea. I guess I'll just shoot for one and hope for the best.

@Mormodes 4 жыл бұрын

Why not save up and get something like the THX 789? This is coming from a Schiit fanboy. Could also go with the Jot or something, but that's a lot more money and honestly I wasn't SUPER impressed with it.

@OctopusWith7Knives 4 жыл бұрын

@@theterriblepuddle1830 I tried it and returned back to Amazon cuz I liked 100 Magni 3+ Better... I guess there is too much power in smsl 888, I hear a lot of noise after like 40-50% of volume at low gain, I didn't like that noise lvl at all. I believe that Hersey will be better but less powerfull, numbers are the same except power

@djstutterchicago87 2 жыл бұрын

I almost Schiit my pants from laughter throughout this whole review🤣

@ndragos87 4 жыл бұрын

Stupid question Magni 3+ or RNHP is there that big of a difference in sound quality

@marley720 3 жыл бұрын

I know this is old but my sundaras sound terrible using the 3+ with a low input voltage, but with higher input voltage it sounds phenominal. Low gain has ever so slightly more soundstage but less detail.

@xXThorsMjolnirXx 4 жыл бұрын

@zeos what rca splitters are those they look good

@MasterGunZ 4 жыл бұрын

I second that

@nisem0no 4 жыл бұрын

Got such a fright when you hit the camera with the headphones haha. I impulsively moved to one side to avoid it too.

@VredesbyrdNoir 4 жыл бұрын

I have the Beyerdynamic MMX 300's and was thinking the Heresy would be the better option based on some initial comments about the two. Would that be right?

@redhorse6792 4 жыл бұрын

Amazon link you added the image shows that the Magin 3+ has a power light on the PCB board and hole in the case!!!! So why not on your one???

@FragEightyfive 4 жыл бұрын

Could be a review sample? My older Magni has it.

@michaelpowell4823 4 жыл бұрын

Not only that it shows the Heresy not having a front power light. Then you go to the Schiit website and neither have a front light. Its all just weird.

@subbot8077 3 жыл бұрын

@@michaelpowell4823 just got my heresy about two weeks ago, it doesn't have a front power light smh 😔 realistically though it's hardly a deal-breaker, just a little nice-to-have that's missing. There's still a light on the PCB that shines through the vent holes in the top.

@rigobertosolorzano8568 4 жыл бұрын

Which one would you recommend for the Beyerdynamics 1990 Pro headphones?

@zeoik99 2 жыл бұрын

I love Gundam Wing references :)

@Assimilator702 4 жыл бұрын

Hmmm. My Magni 3 barely gets warm. With certain earphones it does at times but I’ve been burning in my Moondrop Starfield iems since Saturday night and my Magni 3 is cool. My Asgard 2 gets hot enough to burn your skin. That goes off the second I’m done using it.

@tylerscott1853 4 жыл бұрын

Would you choose the Archel2 PRO by Geshelli Labs or the Heresy?

@mattg082 4 жыл бұрын

I run a apogee Rosetta Ad/DA 200. Mostly looking for something sterile using my Athm50s and sometimes I use sonaworks software on my master buss. But my living situation is 80% headphone tracking and 20% monitors. I was actually looking at the Capi headphone amp for my API lunchbox and also the costly Rupert Neve Headphone amp. I need something high quality that’s flat and not really boosting frequency. Some people over at gearslutz forum, told me to park at these before spending 300-500 on a CAPI build or Neve one. What’s your thought for using these for pro audio tracking? It won’t really be used to listen to other artist music, but purely studio.

@cmercerelli 4 жыл бұрын

Yep. I have both amps and that is the way they behave.

@heythere6983 3 жыл бұрын

Do you have the modi? Are these alone as good sounding as the modi ? Iv thought about a different amp like the ifi which can add sub bass and then a modi as a dac

@Ujprom 4 жыл бұрын

Hey Zeos, would it be sane to use Tin T2's with these, they are 16 ohms? I bought the Tin after watching your review.

@louislu1067 4 жыл бұрын

I bought the tin t2 as well, they are fantastic values for the money but too bad the fit pretty loose in my ears.

@Ujprom 4 жыл бұрын

@@louislu1067 what amp do you use them with. I have the fiio A1 and they sound good. But wanted to know, if they'd sound any different with more powerful amps. Cheers!

@ChillToMusic87 4 жыл бұрын

Hello. Has anydody have any idea if I can connect one of these amps to my Onkyo home speaker amp and use the bass and treble settings on my Onkyo please? Also my cd and record players are connected through my Onkyo but want to be able to listen to these through my headphones but through one of the little amps and control the eq through my Onkyo. Thank you.

@m4nc1n1 4 жыл бұрын

i am torn between these 2. Honestly i think i will just get the Heresy simply on looks lol. I have the SPH9500's right now but will be getting others. Oh i also have the WH100XM3's and a EarStudio ES100 MK2

@jamhedon 4 жыл бұрын

Upvote for the random Gundam reference.

@yosixxx 3 жыл бұрын

I’ve the Heresy, Modi dac, and 6XX’s arriving in a few days. Do you think the Modi will drop the power of the Heresy and I should get a better dac or is it fine?