Film in front of a TV instead of traveling

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Epic Light Media

Ай бұрын

you can do this at home and it's not too expensive.

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@AtomicAgePictures Ай бұрын

I've been using a 47" tv sitting on a table, just outside the side windows of a car to do driving dialog scenes. So far no one has figured out that it's not real.

@mrhobs 25 күн бұрын

How do you find/create good footage (right angles/speed/etc) to go on the TV? This is a good idea that I may actually want to try

@AtomicAgePictures 25 күн бұрын

@@mrhobs I attached a dji osmo pocket camera to the side of my car and filmed from both directions, drivers side and passenger. As the pocket osmo doesn't really have shallow depth of field, I defocused the shots in post.

@heckensteiner4713 21 күн бұрын

I just figured it out. But only because you told me. 😉

@mrhobs 18 күн бұрын

@@AtomicAgePictures Hey man, that's a pretty straightforward method, thank you!

@mrhobs 18 күн бұрын

@@heckensteiner4713 Goofball. ha

@foljs5858 Ай бұрын

"Film in front of a TV instead of traveling" 2024 economy in a nutshell

@EpicLightMedia Ай бұрын

Hahaha love this

@jacquesdupreez2146 23 күн бұрын

Really laughed so hard!!

@xamomax Ай бұрын

You can get bezel hiding kits for monitors that could be useful. Sim racers use them for 3 monitor setups to help make the monitors look like one. Basically they are strips that blur the light from the two monitors to the side and combine the light into the strip.

@evilpigskin Ай бұрын

Whoah! Do you have any links or a name for that? This is pretty pretty pretty useful

@ihebmaalaoui Ай бұрын

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@PeterVanKeer Ай бұрын

Good tip, but as far as I know those are for smaller monitors only? Would be amazing though to have these for a 70" TV!

@Humcrush Ай бұрын

@@PeterVanKeer Couldn't you stack them to get the height you need?

@xamomax Ай бұрын

@PeterVanKeer possibly, though theoretically they could work for any size. One thing I am unsure of is if the monitors have to be at a specific angle or if the trick will work at any angles including flat.

@B-Moye Ай бұрын

When I saw PotatoJets video my mind was completely blown and I love how versatile you all got with this, hiding the bezel, still having foreground elements and even the resolve set up is an added layer I hadn’t thought about

@jazzlehazzle 27 күн бұрын

Modern spin on classic, traditional rear projection. Used in Hollywood since the 1930s. Battle-tested, tried-and-true.

@gefloigle 24 күн бұрын

Exactly what I was thinking.

@Blatantist 23 күн бұрын

disney still uses it to this day

@Blatantist 23 күн бұрын

i think they use massive screens now tho

@SagnikDasgupta 22 күн бұрын

Rear projections then, volumes now, TVs here.

@marsgizmo 29 күн бұрын

Love this setup! Especially using Resolve for the quick adjustments! That's a great tip.

@yamikanikatunga1749 Ай бұрын

“This is cheap stuff,” with three 75 inch TVs in the background. 😂 You guys make amazing content.

@robertdouble559 Ай бұрын

It's very cheap, comapred to a fully tricked out LED wall voume. The cost of building your own TV based setup is cheaper one a day renting a volume stage. Waaaaay cheaper. Let's say you plan to shoot a weeks worth of interviews, buy the 3 screens, do the shoot, flip the TVs on facebook marketplace, or return them to Amazon for a refund. If you're not getting paid for your work then yeah...everything is expensive. Another option would be to rent them from an AV hire company. I've worked on some i studio car interior shots for netwrok TV shows where the produciton have rented 4x 100" screens to do all of their drving shots over the course of a few days. Cost them next to nothing and it looked great. Buying or renting three or 4 TVs is negliagle for any of the jobs I would typically work on. Chump change.

@yamikanikatunga1749 Ай бұрын

@@robertdouble559 this is actually a really good point. Thanks, for exposing me to the other side of the technical details and comparisons. 😃

@TheBaldr 15 күн бұрын

you can create the same thing with a so much cheaper projector.

@JulioBHJ Ай бұрын

That looked surprisingly good.

@EpicLightMedia Ай бұрын

Thanks!

@ciinelog Ай бұрын

@@EpicLightMedia Thomas have you ever tried to use this method, but with good quality projector as it can be budget friendly option for some situations, when someone can't afford expensive TV monitors

@GabrielFFontes Ай бұрын

@@ciinelogi doubt a budget friendly projector would have nearly enough brightness to pass this off, but I’d love to see it tested out.

@daltonidaho Ай бұрын

Absolutely professional end result, and such a great idea! This certainly got me thinking about the many possibilities with a setup like this.

@EpicLightMedia Ай бұрын

Hey thanks!!!

@lawbossproductions1331 Ай бұрын

I watched your video last year re TV wall backdrop and copied your system. Works out well -- I use it to simulate a window view from a downtown office. Love your content!

@mradriiiian Ай бұрын

Post more regularly or I will subscribe. With notifications on!

@AhmedAbdo-jd7vy Ай бұрын

Couldn't agree more 👏 👌

@bharaninathkomandur6330 Ай бұрын

OMG!! That is a real threat right there.

@joeldiaz141 Ай бұрын

You mean "and"?

@BenDurham Ай бұрын

You wouldn't DARE 😦

@will_wtr 25 күн бұрын

😱

@IMDABROWN Ай бұрын

Glad you guys are uploading videos. this was super fun and creative.

@TyroneLT Ай бұрын

I have access to a 77 inch TV. I definitely want to try this out. Thanks for this breakdown! You guys always make great stuff!

@jacoblopez2549 Ай бұрын

Now that I work at a film studio, I’m definitely doing this now. Thank you for making that tutorial in the other video. Excited for this one.

@odigskimedia4919 Ай бұрын

I’m so happy another one dropped. I love your content

@BenDurham Ай бұрын

This is SUCH a great idea! Excellent breakdown.

@ShaferScott Ай бұрын

I recently started doing something similar, however I just use one 75 inch tv right behind me, so I don't need the white strips because I'm only using one tv.

@clurkroberts2650 Ай бұрын

This is a wonderful practical studio.

@collierlandry Ай бұрын

The lighting on talent is 🔥. Well done!

@BrianJurkowski Ай бұрын

During the COVID lockdowns I saw a Twitter post of a news commentator working FROM HOME with a similar setup. She had only one large TV and the effect was perfect. I like what you've done here.

@markstevens1729 23 күн бұрын

What I can say is that when “cheap” in-studio shoots are this complex, leaving the studio is for the birds in any situation you can avoid it. All of which is why I chose radio over TV some 50 years ago.

@7ombische Ай бұрын

I've been using a 4K short throw projector with a 120" ALR screen for a virtual background for my wife's channel and client webinars. The challenge is that you really have to control light spilling onto the projector screen, and 120" is a little too small to give us more flexibility with getting a wider shot of the talent. I'm considering changing to a TV video wall for our new larger studio but no bezel TV's are very expensive. It might not be worth the extra cost.

@PopTartHeaven Ай бұрын

I could see myself actually doing a setup like this in the future. Great job guys!

@MasonPayne Ай бұрын

I think this setup is ridiculous… ridiculously awesome!

@reynaldomercado Ай бұрын

Great setup. Big tv, good lighting and blur...don’t look hard to emulate. Thanks!

@PranshuDhruv Ай бұрын

iam glad you guys are back, much love

@PabloGarcia-sf7bn 23 күн бұрын

It looks awesome! Sparking off ideas as I type. Greetings from New Mexico!

@Mr_Kenneth Ай бұрын

I think for most cases, especially creating social media ads, this looks fantastic. I'm looking at buying an 85" TV for our Christmas photoshoot

@isnotkevin Ай бұрын

I did use a tv as a background for a photo once and it came out great, so when I saw your suggestion to use it for video it just made sense.

@RLTPhoto Ай бұрын

looks like a great idea for simple talking head type shoots. The image was extremely convincing A+

@PopoRamos Ай бұрын

I use a 4k ultra short throw projector. You can blow it up to 300 inches no problem, however it is much harder to control the lighting as any spill into the screen washes out the image. When setup right even gives you room to add a slider or go handheld for some parallax adding more to the realism

@PlayedWith Ай бұрын

We have been doing this in action figure photography for many years...cool to see it adapted to something else!

@anoophothi Ай бұрын

This is brilliant and definitely giving mega expensive virtual production studios for SMEs a run for their money and MORE accessible to more ppl and companies!:)

@radicalempire6599 Ай бұрын

Looks amazing. We use a short throw projector from time to time. The brightness is the only downside. But if you expose for the background it sort of works pretty good.

@OrigEntertainmentOfficial Ай бұрын

I looked into this. There is supposed to be some really, really good screen material that reflects alot of the light back. You might want to look into that.

@KevKlopper Ай бұрын

I started to get into sim racing and they use a special tape to cover up the bezels, it refracts the light and creates a diffused border to the next screen. Maybe that works for you too!

@kribbage Ай бұрын

I've seen -- for triple computer monitor setups -- people that use a prism/diffusor strip that goes between each screen and sort of blends the bezels out. Don't know if they make them big enough for tvs like that. Just one big screen I would think could be enough for smaller product shot setups too! EDIT: apparently the DIY way is to get a broken TV of the same size - has to be one that has a backlight with a fresnel lens layer - and cut that into strips and flex them until the bezel disapears. Those fresnels in old tvs can be interesting light mods in themselves 🤔

@henrytheturnip Ай бұрын

I've been doing this for a few years now, a single 55" HD screen is brilliant for product video. Especially with transparent objects like glass where green-screening a background is next to impossible. Add a turntable and a few props and you're good to go.

@kadafilm Ай бұрын

Epic Light Media doesn't question if this idea is crazy, they wonder if it's crazy enough!

@ifthis_ Ай бұрын

reminds me of what @PotatoJet did with his new studio, and i really dig this idea since seeing that video. I'm totally going to invest in one of these systems in the upcoming weeks. Thanks for the detailed breakdown.

@Vitaphone Ай бұрын

Glad you guys are back… Hope Thomas is ok, seems as bummed as he was In the last one❤

@OccidentalonPurpose Ай бұрын

Love this. Would be great setup for someone who shoots lots of a-roll interviews and standups. You could use backgrounds that are thematically in line with the b-roll without having to have subjects go on-location when they don't need to.

@Moustafa11 Ай бұрын

This looks great. I’m curious if a short-throw projector would work as well and potentially have a larger and seamless screen.

@MrNobodyX3 22 күн бұрын

You can get one of those backlit things for a TVs where it lights up the wall behind it and all around and use that as your light around your subject to mimic the environment that you're showing on the screen

@vegardpedersen Ай бұрын

Brilliant! Love this. I have used a single TV before for product shots, and it turned out decent. No the best TV so there was some problems with reflections and some light, and using Autofocus was a problem as it is flat, but the camera thinks it is more depth. Your result looks so clean and professional, great job :-)

@stevenhockaday914 20 күн бұрын

Very nice setup. Looks great and vastly improves your post processing time

@spybloodjr Ай бұрын

I love this break down! thank you! How do you think a 4k laser projector would work as an alternative rear projection?

@nawafilm 18 күн бұрын

I have worked with these type of virtual backgrounds using ultra short throw projectors. They have the advantage of enabling to shoot on a big 4 meter wide background but they are very susceptible to spill. Indeed using a lot of flags was crucial for those kind of setups pretty much what you are doing here.

@pglazzari1 Ай бұрын

It looks really good. What were your thoughts on a projector

@OrigEntertainmentOfficial Ай бұрын

We did this for a VFX shot of putting an actor in spaceship. We only have one large monitor set up in landscape. We found it worked fine with minimal blurring/bokeh. It does need some so you can't tell it's a screen. Separately, consider blurring the background in photoshop. I am not sure how that will look but might be worth exploring.

@benjaminpeternorris Ай бұрын

That's really cool!! - I just wondered if using rear projection you can get the same effect, without the bezels? We used to use rear projection for events we ran years ago, not sure if anyone uses it for video backdrops these days though!

@Cameronpov 25 күн бұрын

They make bezel hiding strips you can put between two monitors. They reflect the image over the bezel making it almost disappear if you're not focused on it. I don't know if they make them big enough to use for what you're doing though.

@adidasjoel17 29 күн бұрын

i thought that looked really good! Outside of this video knowledge, if you just showed me that final output, there's no way i would have guess that. Nice job and thanks for the insights i might be able to use down the road :)

@dinanm7 Ай бұрын

Philip Bloom did a great review of a TV where he posed this same option. The tighter the shot or larger the tv should get seamless.

@ngonzale3 Ай бұрын

Definitely pro-level. Wonderfully done. It would be great to see a comparison between this and, say a 4k projector. If the cost isn't that much different than the tv's would be better.

@bengibbs3299 Ай бұрын

Super cool! I defintely would want to try something like this out. I also like how simulating the TV provides some what would be natural ambient/colors onto the talent. Never liked the way green screen looks keyed with those edges that never quite look right.

@amarucazenave Ай бұрын

I love this set-up, we've just build a studio in a tiny room with 2 big screens behind our journalist and the guests, the result is just fantastic. We have to struggle with lights to avoid reflections on the screens, but the result is just amazing. The studio look like a big place on the top of building with a view of Paris

@EpicLightMedia Ай бұрын

Awesome! I’d love to see it

@amarucazenave Ай бұрын

@@EpicLightMedia The first video will be uploaded in June, I can put a link a this moment if you want

@rangefreewords 23 күн бұрын

I agree in LA at 5.65 an hour it lives in my head.

@IndyVisuals Ай бұрын

Turned out amazing

@christianl151 27 күн бұрын

You guys could use one of those lenticular sheets that people use as "invisibility shields" to better blend the screens together and hide those bezels, look up some images, I think it might work well with this setup. Would give you the benefit of not having to change the colored bezel covers for different scenes.

@izytang Ай бұрын

Have you considered integrating Unreal Engine into the setup and placing a gyro-sensor on the camera? You could upgrade to doing real-time dynamic backgrounds and even (some) handheld moving shots. That could open it up so you're not confined to just locked off shots with static backgrounds. Though, for the locked/static stuff, it looks pretty good - the attention to lighting sells it.

@mrwayne8018 Ай бұрын

Love it! I wonder how these compare with a laser projector. I would like to add this to my home studio but not sure what it would get the best results

@Ausqualitystock Ай бұрын

You reckon a good brand short throw projector on a white wall would reach these levels of brightness?? I've seen some projector stuff and it's good for lower light backgrounds, but I'm guessing it wouldn't be bright enough for this kind of background.

@brad_neal 28 күн бұрын

Looks really good. How difficult was it to match color on all 3 of those tv's?

@BravoCharlie Ай бұрын

Excellent. Thanks for the detail

@talonsix Ай бұрын

Great stuff guys. I'd love to hear more about clean plate capture for the video wall.

@OdiumTV 24 күн бұрын

a short throw projector accomplishes similar results, although without the ability to mimic the gloss of a window. that and a high quality projector might be more expensive than three cheap screens, especially considering longevity

@JavierMercedes 26 күн бұрын

amazing video as always

@WanderFeetChronicles 24 күн бұрын

I’ve been using my iMac 27” as a backdrop (along with my iPad Pro 12.9” as a floor) for Star Wars toy Photography for years now - so much easier and safer for me to shoot at home, where I can control everything, than out in the real world trying to find locations to suit the figures I shoot. - It’s a life saver, a time saver, a money saver and a biggest thing saved is MY SANITY!!!

@joshwilliams4634 29 күн бұрын

How much of a consideration is color accuracy of the monitors for you? are there any specific specs you were looking for or was it just seeing for yourself?

@blainemitchell Ай бұрын

It looks fantastic. I didn't really understand how the ipad to the wall works, but it does so...

@BlaineWestropp1 Ай бұрын

Great way to cover the seams 👌

@YTesting 28 күн бұрын

Well done! Could a high end projector be used too, or would that pose even more problems?

@eversparx Ай бұрын

Amazingly useful video - thanks much for sharing your experience/know-how! Bigger background is better, but, but mind if I ask why you went 3-panel configuration over a single 98” (86”x49”) with no hide-the-seams worries? (…But slightly tighter shots on the talent for sure!) Cheers

@CreativeIsolation Ай бұрын

It’s slick. Would a projector work for this? Or not bright enough?

@superjunaid 26 күн бұрын

I love this!

@xanhetu6034 Ай бұрын

This is great. I just did some video trainings using a greenscreen and AI. Looks very close to this, I'd say your lighting technique is way better than what I accomplished. Well done.

@xanhetu6034 Ай бұрын

P.s I was inspired by the video you did last year which helped tremendously.

@CINENIMUS Ай бұрын

What camera was shooting you? No IBIS by the looks

@retrorollerboy Ай бұрын

Heyho, did you buy the screens with glossy or with matte surface ?

@ianbrown4242 Ай бұрын

It still looks composited, though. The talent doesn't look like it's lit by the background environment. I suppose it's faster, but it sure doesn't look any better.

@cerumen Ай бұрын

My understanding is it’s an alternative to compositing for productions that do not really require 100% realistic lighting and want a quick turnaround, although people claim this method also works well for ‘outdoor’ dialogue scenes like driving, the use of video walls in Mandalorian (I guess natural daylight must be easier to approximate in those setups?)

@JonDraper 28 күн бұрын

Did you guys go capture the background shot? I was hoping to get some more information on here that shot came from

@manuel0689 21 күн бұрын

You need something like a Asus Freekit bezel adapter for triple monitor extension but larger for your tv. that would remove the need to change those trims when switching to green screens.

@TayWoode 29 күн бұрын

Haha I’ve done similar with a few TVs for my Christmas displays disguising one as snow falling outside a window, one for a fireplace etc, same for halloween with ghosts floating up and clouds passing a full moon

@margauxj-broussel9186 22 күн бұрын

Fabulous, no issue with frame rate or flickering?

@bummers 26 күн бұрын

Think this is really smart! But how about using a projector? Rear projector maybe? Or is it too washed out or even more costly?

@darrenorange2982 Ай бұрын

So you depth if field issue, just add blur to the image to fine tune then you can accomplish pretty much anything. And use a cut up plastic Lenticular lens to help hide the seem and tiny amount of depth of field and you've got a better look. Great idea keep it up. Just used a projector for something similar.

@222jojo 22 күн бұрын

you could use a good quality UST projector and if setup correctly you could have the projector behind the person and you don't have to worry about any bezel lines or other things associated with 3 large tv's.

@stoneybowmann Ай бұрын

It's pretty limited for what you can do, size-wise. It's great for that specific scenario. Add in a second camera, wide angle, two people... and you are going to be hitting roadblocks. But for a medium headshot, single camera... looks great.

@benjaminjackson8663 29 күн бұрын

To solve the bezels in more scenarios, why not just use 1 tv in horizontal position and bring it close enough to camera to fill the BG? You can even blur the image _itself_ as much as you need to make up for the reduced in-camera blur. What you did with the 3 tvs + bevel hiders obviously worked just fine, but this way you wouldn't have to deal with that every single time you use this CU setup.

@hopitlong 27 күн бұрын

How are you controlling the depth of field on the screen to look real to the camera and somewhat accurate for the Lens you are using?

@CasalREC Ай бұрын

Amazing

@eike.zender Ай бұрын

Have you ever tried a rear projection canvas such as OptiBlack?

@sapienproductions Ай бұрын

Wouldn't a short throw projector give you a larger background image area or have I already missed the answer to that question?

@Angzarrr Ай бұрын

I’m curious how much more it would cost to have a screen that large without bezels. Or, could you hide them with video wall panels, wouldn’t be flush but maybe would still be ok?

@garretreed9709 25 күн бұрын

Looks great but when you switched over to Andrew I was hoping he would go into detail. What resolution project is in resolve? Does it have a particular name? How do you prevent flare from the tv. I thought that was going to be the problem you were going to say. For the strips, are they attached through velcro? But a deeper dive into the setup in resolve would’ve been nice. Or at least the source you used

@EpicLightMedia 15 күн бұрын

It’s only a 1080p project in resolve. Because the background is going to have natural bokeh from the lens, you really don’t need high res images. We prevent glares on the TV during lighting setup by moving the lights into the right positions and using flags to prevent spill onto the screen. Also because of the large size of the TV wall out talent is several feet from the wall and having more distance between the wall and the lighting makes it easier to prevent glare and flares from the lights.

@powerfulgaming2168 24 күн бұрын

You can also mask the bezels of the TV by using Adobe's new AI generation video tool I think, not sure though. I know Davinci will also have some AI tools, but don't know exactly what kind of. Also, I think it is also possible to just have an image generated and then blurred, since it is blurred and will be static as a background, I think it also would work, and you don't have to buy 2K worth of TVs.