Since a lot of people are asking about the Far From Home finale, two things we factored in but didn't expressly write into the episode: 1. Across BOTH MCU movies, Peter's use of the Spider Sense is inconsistent, just like the other Spidermen. Writers tend to "forget" that it exists when they need to put Spider-Man in danger, and so sure, Tom Holland ends the movie having "mastered" the sense, but we have no evidence that he'll be able to continue using it from this point forward (and we guessed he probably won't, because it'll make him too OP if he can predict EVERY move headed his way). We have to go by what we've seen...and his sense up until the end of FFH hasn't been great. 2. Yes, he "masters" the Spider Sense at the end, but is it giving him faster reactions times? He's able to SEE THROUGH THE ILLUSIONS of Mysterio...which helps him avoid bullets and avoid the gun...but his REACTION TIME is still on par with the other Spidermen (at least when it comes to avoiding LOTS of bullets, which they all can do). It gave him better intuition. So again, largely a wash when compared to the other portrayals of the character. Don't get me wrong...Tom Holland is my FAVORITE Spider-Man. But FFH didn't give us the confidence that the Spider Sense was that much better than anyone else's. As such, when it comes to power set, in our estimation, Miles in Spiderverse still wins. But like I said, it's a theory. There are TONS of ways to analyze the question. I'm really enjoying reading everyone's thoughts on the issue -- keep 'em coming!

Top 2 Marvel snaps 1) Thanos’ snap 2) Gwen Staci’s spine

Me watching this quietly. Matpat: I'm sensing you screaming at your screens right now.

I just realized something, the Peter B. Parker in "into the spider verse" has mechanical web shooters and not organic. So its not technically the same guy

Miles has an electro shock, so Andrews electric proof webs would be kinda useful there

Thumbnail: who will survive? Me: Everyone, Spider-Man just doesn't kill

Matpat: Tom holland has taser webs etc Also Matpat: I can't really see electricity coming up in a fight

After seeing Miles go head to head with Miguel O'hara, and even escaping from the Spider Society. This theory is almost a canon event.

In No way Home Tom Holand really shows how powerful his spidey sense is, he literally moves while his soul is out of his body

Matpat: The "Peter tingle" isn't very useful for Tom Holland Far From Home: I'm 'bout to end this whole mans career

Matpat: pretends video doesn't include Spiderverse for 15 minutes Also Matpat: puts Miles on thumbnail 🤪

Mat: "I don't think having shock-proof webbing would be that important in a spider man battle" Tom Peter: I have a shock webbing type Miles: I literally have a shock ability

After watching across the spider verse I can safely say that Lego Spider-Man is the real victor

"Karen activate instant kill!" Other spidermen: *WAIT THAT'S ILLEGAL*

I don't know if Mattpat forgot or anything, but MILES ALSO USES ELECTRICITY

For some strange reason, nobody ever acknowledges the scene from the end of Spider-Man 2, where Peter holds up the giant metal wall, then proceeds to THROW IT over his head. I feel like that is a considerable feat of strength that just get's flat out ignored by everyone

It wasn't Peter B. Parker that had the same experiences. It was Peter Parker from Miles' universe.

Unironically, Spider Ham would win. He can pull a Thanos and drop a moon on his enemies, better yet, he’d pull the moon out of his pocket mid battle.

Me screaming at the screen: YOU DIDNT MENTION FAR FROM HOME YOU... Matpat: wait I sense lots of you screaming at the screen because I missed a movie... Me: oh thank god Matpat: spiderman: into the spider verse Me: really... Matpat: miles is the winner!!! Me: I'm done

Even though this theory is good in some parts there are errors. 1. With the web shooters Tom only used his normal web-slinging and gliding. Even with more options he does not use them. (Also, Tom's gliding did not look to be much faster than regular swinging, though correct me if I am wrong.) 2. With Tobey's train scene the train kept on accelerating past 80, with top speeds between a transportation train being 125-150mph most likely the train was going at least 100+. Also, the train was not just at one speed and was pulled to be slowed down, it was trying to also speed up. (Proof: We only got to see it at 80 but the bar clearly was rising past it toward the last frames.) 3. With Andrew saving the people from Electro you forgot to include the distance and reaction between him saving the people and dealing with the car. 4. Tom can fight with his eyes closed (proven from FFH final fight scene.) That makes Miles Morale's invisibility useless against him. Otherwise, I am pretty sure everything else can be backed up by what you said.

Best part of no way home is when they acknowledge the fact Toby's webs are natural

How I imagined the fight: Miles: I have my Venom Blast. Tom: I have instant kill. Tobey: I have the symbiote. Andrew: Okay, I'm dead

In infinity war peter sensed that the guardians were coming even though the guardians couldn’t be heard by doctor strange and tony stark

The fact Across The Spider-Verse basically confirmed this theory

I hope they make a live action Miles Movie

Electricity will probably not happen in the fight Miles: hold my spray can

“Just because i have spider sense doesn’t mean i have common sense” peter parker

Tobey: I missed the part where that's my problem

You should definitely do a theory on Across the Spider-Verse since it just came out!

Spider-Man: "My Spidey sense is tingling" Doctor: "Sir, you have testicular cancer"

Miles Morales: *basically sucker punches Peter B* MatPat: He's stronger than Toby *and* Tom!

with no way home and infinity war, we know tom holland’s sense is more of his head telling him to move or that theres something dangerous near. in infinity war, the reason he was the most scared while blipping was because his head was screaming at him that there was danger, but peter didn’t know what it was and how to stop it.

I would love to see a new version of this video with certain characters from Spider Man: Across the Spiderverse considering how overpowered certain individuals are in that movie

But you didn't judge Miles the same way that you judged the other three... You didn't rate his strength, webs, and agility. That's my main gripe but also the thing that literally everyone else is saying--- Why did you ignore Far From Home?

MatPat in a nutshell: *Well yes, but actually no*

Who’s here after No Way Home to talk about how Tom’s Spider Sense can detect a heartbeat and pin a certain villain in a room with villains

Please an updated version since we saw a more in depth version of how Tom’s Spider sense works in No Way Home and a couple more important things.

Mat: Taser web. Also Mat: i can't see how electro proof webbing could help in this situation.

Who would win? “Karen, activate Instant Kill.”

Tom definitely takes Spider Sense now, he’s the only one to sense that Norman was Goblin.

Interesting that you pulled in another contender at the end and declared him the winner without saying anything about his strength, webs, or agility and Spider-Sense.

“It’s hard to imagine electricity playing a role here” Bruh. You’ve already mentioned TASER webs.

Wait what about Tom Holland's peter tingle in far from home

Funny how this came on my recommendation page after watching an across the spider verse video

Pretty sure it depend on plot armor or just how strong do the director wants them to be

How you forget about Tom Holland Using ONLY his Peter tingle in the final scene of Far from home vs Mysterio ???!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Matpat. Buddy. "Tom's Peter does nothing of note with his spider sense" Did you see Far From Home?

and everything has come full circle

A little curious if you're gonna do a revised version of this since the sequel for Spider-Verse came out a while back. Still love this theory!

so are we going to ignore the cool as heck peter tingle/drone scene from far from home?? 😂😂

Miles talking to Peter: “Have you ever heard of the shoulder touch?”

Hi, love your work!

Insomniac Spider-man: Ha, lemmie take the wheel.

SPOILERS FOR FAR FROM HOME You said Tom Holland has no real scenes of spider sense in the MCU? What about the end fight scene, with the drones against Mysterio?

Instant kill mode: I'm about to end this man's whole career.

petition for him to redo this after seeing no way home

I feel like ham has a chance though, his confrontation with the live actions would go one of two ways. Either the wacky cartoon logic applies and ham is guarenteed the win or because hams in the real world he plays by it’s rules, in which case the other spidermen will be serving him up for dinner

OBJECTION! Why is “Witty Banter with Villains” not a category?

Spider-Man Battle Royale Tom Holland: *actives instant kill

Spider Ham is the strongest. Cartoon logic means he can’t die. Even if he gets crushed, he just is prefectally fine.

I think No Way Home answered this question well

In captain America civil war. Tom Hollands spider Man doged a peice of metal the winter solider threw at him without Tom seeing it.

Matpat: *talks about spidersense* Also matpat: *uses miles invisibility as a reason he can beat the other spidermen*

Bro was right even in across the spiderverse honestly it’s insane to look at it now

4:27 don't forget the action of friction, the tension from the webs, the brakes and other factors which would take from the strength he'd need

Everyone talking about Tom Holland dodging bullets in darkness, smh Y'all really forgetting about Spiderham's gravity and space defying hammer Edit: Yo how'd I get over 1k likes

Interesting.. but what about Peter dodging Mysterio's Drones in pure darkness for the Spidey-Sense Section?

I believe that the modern movies stretch the dramaticness of the abilities more than the previous movie

I need another one of these now since No Way Home

I feel like Miles had a little bit of plot armor in that final scene. Plus he wasn’t put through the rest of the categories like the others. It sounds a lot like Death Battle, where one feat that someone clearly didn’t do the physics on or threw in for a gag, just blows any other feats out of the water. Is Miles strong? Yes Do we have enough material to accurately judge his strength? No

Ok no matter what, we know that the one scientist who said "he has a bagel" is the best

5:42 WHAT? That wasn't his "grip ending" he literally can stick to it. The bumper broke. It's the same thing with Cap in Avengers: AoU

Did you take Far From Home into account in regards to the spider sense?

In MatPats next video he should do a cross-fade of all the comments calling BS on this entire theory

Can we do a revamp? Absolutely incredible theory, but since MCU's no way home with an actual meet up and all the villains, would the end result be different?

I feel like Tobey would win in the long run because sure miles could catch him off guard, but that doesn’t mean the fight is over just because he tripped him once. And besides if it was a really long fight between the three Spider-Men (miles, Tom, and tobey) then it’s safe to assume that after some time miles and Tom would run out of webs, making them have a slight disadvantage

Wait...Matpat you didn't include the spiderman far from home scene with spiderman using his spider senses to beat Mysterio

MatPat my good sir. You forgetting about Tom beating Beck while he was invisible? TskTsk, you've been slacking.

I kinda want to see a redo of this with new information from the movies

Now that Across the Spiderverse is out and making Miles part of an actual franchise of movies, and No way home has the three Peter's going against each other's villains once or twice in the movie, it would be nice to revisit this theory

You kind of forgot about the final showdown between Tom Holland and Mysterio's drones, and also reacted to Mysterio shooting him from behind him.

We haven't seen Miles exert large amounts of strength, or fighting experience. I don't think you'd be able to call him the winner

I honestly can't wait to see how this theory stacks up once we see Miles duke it out with Spiderman 2099 in the next Spiderverse movie

About the boat vs the train scene, you gotta remember how much webbing they used to complete the hold. Tom Spiderman had to use over a hundred to do it for 6 seconds and still fail. Tobey Spider-Man only used 14 to bring the train to a COMPLETE stop without outside help. Remember the webbing in homecoming is taking 90%of the ACTUAL strain of the act here, unlike Spider-Man 2 where Tobey Spiderman is the complete anchor holding the webbing to get the strain to stop. So 10% is 3100000 for 6 seconds which is still pretty impressive.

Math teacher: Today we’re gonna learn about the transitive property of equality, Me: C’mon we’re never gonna use this in our real life. MatPat: Hold my beer.

In the agility test. Tom Holland dodged attack drones in spider Man far from home

As someone from the future who saw Miles 1v1000+ all the spiderman I feel like this is canon

I wonder if the portrayal of Spider-Sense in NWH takes Toms score up a notch, given that he’s now canonically the only Spider-Man to actually have near-premonitions of future events as opposed to a heightened awareness of one’s surrounding or a slower perception of time.

In Far From Home, Tom's Peter literally dodges hundreds of bullets while fighting a dozen drones *with his eyes closed* thanks to his Spider-sense

But Miles is the only one that can 1 hug his parents 2 say the n-word

In NWH, I think the strength of Tom Holland's spider sense is heavily supported. 1. In Spider-verse, the Spider sense is represented by these little squiggles around the Spider-Man's head. When Strange pushes Peter out of his physical body, you can see those same squiggles around his head (they're a bit hard to see because they're clear, but you can see them). It allows him to dodge Strange insanely quickly. I like to think this is his spider sense is at his best because his soul (his emotions, his hesitation, ect.) is separated from his actual physical body. It's like Jarvis from Age of Ultron. He was stopping Ultron from obtaining nuclear codes without even knowing it. He still *existed* as a program but his intelligence was "killed" or "dismantled" per se. It's the same for Tom. His intelligence was separated from his body but his reflexes, his "spider sense" is still in his fully functioning brain. 2. In another scene where Tom is working on the cure for Green Goblin, his spider sense is obviously warning him about something, but as explained in Homecoming, Tom has trouble focusing. Especially against multiple people (I think). His spider sense is warning him constantly about threats but it's hard for him to focus on which one is most important. It's why his suits eyes are the way they are. They're like binoculars in a way. In No Way Home, it's obvious he detects the threat. It's clear that his spider sense is working, but he's in a room full of super villains. He can't tell where it's coming from until he closes his eyes and focuses on it entirely. I think the reason he's so disorganized when in battle is because he's still young. He's still technically a kid. His attention in battle is constantly drawn from one thing to the next, and it's hard for him to focus until the danger is right behind him. (Like in Captain America Civil War when Caps shield nearly hits him in the back of the head. In a more relaxed situation, I'm sure he would've been able to dodge it far quicker than he did) In conclusion, I think this makes Tom's Spider sense is far superior than Andrew's and Tobey's (probably right on par with someone like Miles Morales). It's not just a "better than average reflex", it's an alert system. It's an alarm. It helps him detect danger even when he's technically not in it. Even though his Spider Sense in infinity war doesn't activate until the ship is basically right behind him, it activates far earlier than it would for Tobey or Andrew, and maybe even Miles. It activates long before he's directly in the line of fire, which in a way, makes it a lot more useful. I think a fully adult and fully realized MCU Spider-Man would win in a Spider Man battle royal against the big three. His spider sense along with his quick thinking and experience would be able to help him come out on top. I'm not exactly that knowledgeable when it comes to this kinda stuff so please let me know if I got something wrong.

Funny how it threw all that research away for a sweep kick

MatPat: Tough to imagine electricity playing a role in a Spiderman vs Spiderman fight. Miles Morales: Hold my bagel.

You should revisit this after No Way Home

The prediction is crazy

What about the battle between mysterio and Tom Holland when he used his peter tingle to save his life

but if miles does turn invisible, the Tom Holland spider man could still sense him because he could sense the invisible drones and cloaked mysterio in far from home

Is this gonna get updated now that Across the Spider-verse is out

nice touch of how the web came out of his abdomen on theory man so good job there

You said that electricity wouldn't be important in a Spider-Man Battle Royale, but surely it would if you're counting Miles Morales as he has electrical powers