It’s scary how we used to be able to make a clean separation between « online » and « offline » but that line is getting thinner and thinner each day

On tiktok simply being unconventional looking in the background of someone else’s video can land you an egregious amount of hate and harassment.

About the filming in public, girl. I work in a grocery store inside one of Europe's biggest shopping mall and tell me why ive been told that during the day (i work graveyard shifts) my colleagues get harrased by people filming them on a daily. This one time a friend had these two guys put a phone in her face and handed her a bouquet of flowers and said "we just wanted to thank you for your hard work" then quit the recording, took the flowers from her, dumped them on a random aisle and left. The flowers were from our store, they picked them up just for the video, didn't pay for them, and left them for her to put back. And ofc the damn power imbalance at play: you are working, you cant be rude to a customer. Especially if they are recording you. Can you imagine if she would have said something? Viral. People in the comments tearing her to pieces like "wow what a b, women nowadays, they were being so nice they got you flowers" Insane. We are insane. Losing our capacity to have normal healthy interactions with other humans, behaving inappropriately cause trying to gain internet followers is more important.

Personally I don't think that girls in video being filmed without their consent were "mean girls", I think they were just reacting to being filmed by a stranger influencer or not. Something similar happened to me and my sister when we were just shopping in a target. We both gave her the middle finger because she had her phone pointed at us and was giggling with her stupid friend. The girl filmed us and followed us around the store with her friend for what felt like forever. I think people should be more conscious/considerate of other people's personal space in public places. I think people have forgotten that other people in public are not there for their entertainment.

Recording people without consent should be illegal everywhere and I'll forever believe that

It’s also important to keep in mind that someone might want privacy for their safety. Many Domestic violence and stalking victims have turned their lives upside down to get away from their abusers. And the idea that someone puts them at risk to make content is kind of sickening.

This world we live in now is so scary! I’m literally a nobody and was filmed by three random men when I was in the middle of WORKING at my old job. I do groundwater testing and sampling and was out in public when three men just shoved cameras in my face and followed me around, filming me, my work vehicle, and not saying ONE WORD. I kept asking them why are they filming me, to please stop, and they just ignored me. I ended up calling my boss and he drove down to the site and tried telling these guys to leave me alone, then they started harassing him and calling us really mean names. It was so creepy and weird and I felt so incredibly violated. The crappiest part is that it was posted on KZfaq without my consent and there’s literally nothing I can do to take it down. We even called the police, but they can’t do anything about it. The police even said people do this and purposely harass/torment individuals to get a reaction to post on KZfaq to gain likes/views. Such a scary world we live in! Keep yourselves educated and safe, and DO NOT encourage or be the individuals recording/taking pictures of strangers in public -__-

so often the advice for social anxiety is 'most ppl are focused on themselves and aren't thinking about you/won't notice anything' and that's starting to feel like a big lie. It's still probably true for more people, but seems there's a few too many people who specifically look around for other people to either make fun of or be a creep towards or do something.

Honestly, It feels dystopian to leave your house with the fear of being filmed without you knowing. It’s scary that you can be taken out of context and then blow up over social media, for what? Living your life? I feel like everyday, Social media is kinda changing how we perceive our world and the people in it as well. Social media does bring a bunch of good things such as awareness or information however, the fact that you can literally have your whole job, education, and reputation stripped from you with just the click of a button is just something else..

before we used to tell celebrities "don't be famous if you don't want your privacy taken away", we also said the same thing to social media influencers, now we have random everyday people being filmed for the most random things and now its "don't go outside if you don't want to be filmed". When does it end?? When I do something embarrassing in public for example if I fell, I have to be worried about being hurt, but I also have to be worried about it being filmed and posted on the internet. The government takes too long to changes laws surrounding social media (and in general), and there has to be a way around this, to where we can do something about being harassed online, especially if something was posted about you without your consent. I'm aware that this could cause other issues and tbh they're all valid, I just feel like something has to be done.

This man recorded a woman with a bbl across the street. I told him how wrong it was and everyone in the comments told me I was being sensitive and if she didn’t want the attention she wouldn’t have gotten the bbl. It’s so upsetting!

Eh I find the influencer more in the wrong here. The moment she saw the girls were reacting to being filmed she should have put the camera away or moved to another area to film her tiktok. She saw the girls were uncomfortable and laughing and she decided to make it a moment for her content. She is not innocent. If she was truly feeling “oops this went viral and ruined those girls lives” she would have simply deleted the video! But she’s loving those views and traction!

I’ve walked in on my siblings recording a tiktok and when I asked not to be in the video, they were nice enough to record it again. That experience made me feel safe walking around my house because I know my family won’t record me without my consent. It’s sad to see some people don’t feel safe in their own homes. 🦆

The internet’s ruthless…except when there’re actual predators and abusers….*sigh*

I've said it before and I'll say it again: we're literally living in a panopticon. For those who might not know, a panopticon is a concept of a prison where all the cells are visible by one guard but the inmates don't know when they're being observed. So the inmates have to act as though they are being watched all the time. Sounds a lot like how you described Gen Z (and others as well) as being afraid of being filmed in public and feeling like they have to be perfect anytime they step outside.

One time I was filmed while I was IN MY OWN HOME, through a window and posted on someone’s story. I wouldn’t have found out except for the fact that the video was of me making a piñata for my brothers birthday party and, when I was at the party it turned out we had a mutual friend who told me about it after recognizing the piñata. It was an extremely unsettling experience. It is crazy to me how comfortable people are invading others privacy.

The fact that I’m scared to go somewhere crowded or even just public because I’m afraid of being filmed and posted is crazy.

I would have been so uncomfortable with her filming with me in the background the whole time.

For those who don’t believe this happens, it absolutely does happen all the time. My mom went to the gym she typically goes to, she was about to clean the machine she just used and there’s a meathead of a guy that sat on the machine before she cleaned it. She said “excuse me, do you mind if I clean the seat before you start?” And the guy went off the rails “why are you telling me to move? If you’re not done with the machine, you should’ve stayed” he then pulls out his phone and says she’s going viral for being a Karen. And she walks away cause she’s not about to entertain that and the guy follows her to the front. And then he’s yelling “where you going, Karen?” And the front desk of the gym had to kick the guy out for harassment. Stuff like this is very much real.

As someone who has been actively stalked by my ex for the past year and a half, being filmed in public is my biggest fear when I go outside. If my ex for instance saw me in a viral video holding hands with another man that could trigger life threatening anger

She should have blurred their faces period end of circus.

glad that filming someone in public without their consent is ilegal in my country and can cost you a looot of money if taken to court.

I recently was living in South Korea and filming people without their knowledge or on the subway is not allowed. it is so strange that a lot of people in America feel entitled to film people in public without their knowledge

Here in the Netherlands, we have something called "portret recht" or "portrait right" meaning if people take pictures or videos of you, you can legally sue them to take it down. They should have that everywhere tbh.

Contrary to the assumption of many influencers, the world is NOT a stage and the strangers captured in a video clip are not actors. On news shows and documentaries, there are rules that lead to blurred faces and license plates. Influencers are ignoring those rules yet exposing unsuspecting strangers to thousands of other strangers. Influencers may be amateurs, but they are as culpable as a freelance professional for what happens as a result of their actions.

It’s very interesting to me that people feel very comfortable filming, posting, and commenting on strangers publicly, but not comfortable at all talking to people. If you want to compliment someone, just go compliment them. Don’t film them secretly and compliment them from a creepy video. If you want to tell someone to knock something off (and you’re not in danger), go tell them politely. If you’re making snap judgments about someone and then posting it, that’s bad for everyone, and makes a bunch of people upset in comments for what might’ve been a miscommunication or a harmless situation.

I ended up in a random guy’s tiktok bc he used footage from my friend’s vlog from years ago before i decided i didn’t want my face shared on social media if i could help it. I got so uncomfortable when i found out that i re-downloaded the app just to comment and ask him to take it down. Other people in the comments were acting like my request was outrageous and i was being too sensitive. It really is terrifying that you could have a digital footprint that you don’t consent to and have no control over because it’s someone else’s “content”. Then when i tried to report it on TikTok there’s no equivalent of “I’m in this picture and i don’t like it” so if you end up in the background of some random’s video, there’s no easy way of having it taken down

When we go outside we're consenting to being seen by our neighbors on the street, not to being recorded for the entertainment of millions of faceless strangers on the internet like it's the Truman Show.

Unpopular opinion: I don't care about the original girl who created the video. Why is she filming complete strangers without consent? She filmed them first. So they filmed back. They acted how they deemed fit after being forced in a video they didnt ask for. They did not deserve to be doxxed or lose their jobs. Absolutely not. As for them filming back, I do this all the time when I dont want to be in random peoples videos. They quickly stop filming when I start filming them. I'm a millennial. So I'm never going to understand the insistent need to film and photograph every damn thing. This is not an influencers world. I'm the only main character in my movie.

I don’t believe anyone deserves to be d*xxed, unless they’re a criminal. More animal abusers definitely deserve it. I’m tired of violence being seen as “dark humor” but social drama gets people fired.

I'm SOOOO glad you made this video! As someone who is plus-sized, autistic, and tends to dress alt, the thought of being filmed by random strangers in public and posted online when I'm just minding my business is literally my #1 fear. What if I have a public meltdown due to overstimulation and some bozo films and posts me labeling me a "Karen"? What if I'm stimming and someone records and posts me claiming that I'm on drugs? What if someone snaps a photo of my outfit and posts it as "cringe?" People really need to think before filming someone without their consent because you don't know what that person may be going through. Another good point that some other commenters mentioned is that some people may not want to be publicly filmed and posted online for their own personal safety (stalking victims, hiding from their abusers, people in witness protection, etc.) The legal system is so slow to change esp with internet laws. This is where I think TikTok and other social media platforms need to step up and enforce some basic guidelines for content like this. Something as simple as requiring users to blur people's faces and removing videos where the subject in the video clearly stated that they did not want to be filmed but got posted anyway would stop so many of these problems 🦆

Bruh the Tiktoker is the one who should be apologising. Were the girls being immature, Yeah. But frankly, if you video or take pictures with other people without their consent, they're allowed to be rude to you because you've violated their privacy for no reason other than your vanity. Reminds me of people who go to other countries to show how weird the people are and then get butthurt when the people get offended and react badly. The tiktoker is not a victim, she's just the other party.

🦆 some seem to have forgotten that there are people in witness protection and filming and broadcasting them without consent could endanger them and their families.

Some girl I worked with was black mailing my coworker on TikTok and she had hundreds of thousands of followers and was telling her followers how “awful” she was even though all my friend ever did to her was tell her if she wasn’t happy at work then find a different job because she was tired of her complaining every second… she said she’d take the video down for $1000… I was pissed

filming people in public without consent always comes off to me as objectifying, like the person doing it is reducing actual people down to just content. it’s weird to me. pretty much no one wants to be put on blast like that so it seems you’d have to forget someone’s humanity to do that to them. i remember growing up hearing that people on the other side screens are real and now these days i think the reminder is needed just in general. it concerns me how it’s a trend now to refer to strangers as NPCs, the implications of what could come from that are frightening. i hope people can remember how they wish to be treated themselves and give others the same as a courtesy. we’re living in cruel times let’s try to do the best we can for each other 🦆💖

i know a girl that works at a gym and a bar and regularly films people at her place of work just having a drink or using a machine making fun of them for how they are dressed, how they look, or how they are acting. it upsets me every single time. someone tried to call her out on it and she spent half a day reposting their argument on instagram and making fun of that person too. and people supported her telling her that other people need to mind their own business and let her (mean girl) post whatever she wants. I make it a point not to go to the bar or gym she works at so Im not filmed by her.

This has been a thing for years? Most people who became memes and don’t become a celebrity have their lives ruined.

I recently moved to London from another country. There is a guy who "pranks" underground passengers by giving them silly directions via megaphone. When i realised it can happen to me i got a full panic attack, not only because i may be in a bad mood, tired or hungry and i'll react badly to someone shaming me for eating a candy bar and filming it (which is bad on its own), but that my extremely toxic ex would see that ive moved to his city and then my life will be actually threatened. I can't explain with words how much i hate it. And the guy is oblivious to it, he just openly says he doesn't ask for permision to post it online.

i was filmed in public once. im not gonna include details bc i dont wanna spread the video, but it was this video where it was 'recording cute outfits i saw in college today' and i made it in there. i know it was meant to be a compliment but it was just uncomfortable i was just trying to read on my break i didnt even know i was being filmed and now im super paranoid that ive been filmed without my knowledge and people just have videos of me existing in my camera roll ??

I was unknowingly filmed in NYC by the show impractical jokers. It was a stupid prank similar to the tiktok interview stuff you see nowadays. The difference was, in order for the show to use the footage, I had to sign a release form! It's the law! The same rules should apply to social media

When a person is handed a camera and a platform they can really show their true colours… My mom once told me an old lady fell near where we live, there were a couple of teens nearby and instead of helping her they just recorded her and laughed at her. People suck

"...the video had been misinterpreted and put out of context". That's like 90% of the internet now.

I feel bad for both girls. They were uncomfortable with the man filming them is what they thought? So ofc they acted out to get him to go away, and they stated she was in THEIR ASSIGNED SECTION so it’s not like they could get up and leave. The comments about the girl were rude, but this is all just a big misunderstanding that people are living for bc this is what society has come to lol. I definitely think the girl who posted it has a lot more to play in it than she is putting on. Isn’t it weird for her “taking pictures “ she’s half way in the frame and the man behind the camera is fully filming these teenage girls….. ofc they’d be uncomfortable?? Like it’s not that hard to put urself in their shoes yall look DUMB

I would like to add that it's not only filming and posting strangers. I had this friend who would film and post me every time we hung out to show off. When I asked him not to he said I was being ridiculous and continued. Same with some of my family members. Even when my employer organises an event we have to sign an agreement for being filmed and photographed for social media etc. What are you supposed to do? Say no? I have dysmorphia and hate how normalised this stuff is getting. I always wear a cap when I leave the house because of the anxiety this gives me. I also witnessed men taking photos of young girls in public a couple of times. God knows what happens with that material. Extremely disturbing, all of it.

As someone who is very conscious of being filmed without my consent, i don't think I've left my house without that anxiety on the forefront of my mind once in the last decade.

Genuinely this is one of my worst fears.... I don't think I'll ever stop wearing my mask in public so that I'll at least have SOME chance of surviving people finding and talking about me

As a waitress I totally agree. I'm someone who hate being filmed in general. And ever since im a waitress ppl seem to be thinking I'm a public attraction. Everytime my coworkers and me go sing happy birthday at a table we're being film by a bunch of strangers. And I can confirm to you, every single one of my coworkers including me feel so uncomfortable being film like that. We're always being posted everywhere without any kind of consent. And no being a waitress doesn't mean you get to just film us all the time. We hate it

My biggest pet peeve is tiktokers saying “I didn’t expect that video to blow up/go viral” as if that’s not the goal of 99.99% of people who post on TikTok. If I hear those words, I roll my eyes to hell and scroll away.

In Germany everyone has "a right to their own picture", so you're actually not allowed to film people without their consent, doesn't matter if u post it or not. However, people still do film each other and it's still something that I was scared of back in school. It's just easier to ask people not to film u because u can threaten them with reporting them to the police, if they don't respect your wish.

I really cannot understand how people think it's ok to film random strangers even if only as background. Like the right of my image belongs only to me, you can't use such image for your video without my permission. I'm not American so I guess it's different there? but it really is such a crazy concept for me to think that I cannot go outside without being filmed and I can't even say anything against it because the internet could turn against me.

To people on Tiktok who do this: Are you happy with the possibility of being responsible for causing unnecessary amounts of bullying, people’s deaths, triggering someone’s panic attacks and depression, paranoia, being the reason people aren’t able to overcome their already existing mental disorders and couldn’t go outside? I hate how people go out of their way to ruin lives over their own deluded desire for fake power and influence or just simply feeding your arrogance in general. People flock to controversy and outrage vids because it manipulates and plays with the viewer’s emotions in a way that they feel the need to be involved.

Hot take: the public apology needs to disappear. Unless someone/a group of someones has actually harmed an entire society, reconciliation is between the victim(s) and the perpetrator(s). You, random person on Beyonce's internet, aren't owed a public flogging, just so perceived wrongs can be made right. If mean girl behavior really offends you, then be a change agent; pick up kindness, not pitchforks and torches.

This is why i don't like internet "vigilantes". No one, absolutely no one who doxxed, harassed, etc. was right. I understand sending mean comments and all, but doxxing? Finding random girl's accounts who aren't even the actual girl being harassed. Innocent people (a firm) in the crossfire because of one dumb girl and the buisness going down. At one point when is it enough "consequence" for these people. Till they (mean girls) land in the hospital because someone actually violently punched them. Till those death threats come true? When? And why can’t we give consequences to people that actually need them.

I didn't see the Tik Tok, but I think that the girls were just being childish without thinking of the consequences. They seem very young. I think the problem is the influencer that keeps filming them without their consent. As Salem said, she could simply told them to keep quiet or change seat. And also I think that she was perfectly aware that her Tik Tok would gone viral, she put the right hashtags in order to do so. 🦆

I’m glad that people are talking about this It also reminds me of that one video where this guy was filming people giving him a high five and this one girl who rejected him and cried, that video went viral and everyone was harassing the girl for “being rude” Only for her sister to come out and tell people to stop judging her because she has contamination OCD. The way people will look at something, take it without context and run with it is insane 🦆

apologies in advance for the long comment but i want to share my experience! i've become very passionate about this topic since having this happen to me a couple months ago, and i feel your video did a great job explaining the consequences of recording people without consent! i was on campus after shooting a film for class and was EXHAUSTED, not looking or feeling my best, when suddenly these guys started following me. i was on high alert and called my mom letting her know i just wanted her listening on the other end bc someone was following me. turns out they were some of those "pick-up" influencers who go around getting girl's numbers, and although in the moment i didn't know i was being recorded, i suspected something was up so i just played along out of fear. not to mention, i have social anxiety so being on camera without my knowledge really messes with my head. :/ they cut out a lot from the video ultimately, like the cameraman following me even after the first interaction and also harassing me for my number, but the video has blown up now so it's out of my hands. thankfully most people aren't being mean to me in the comments, but i have received some creepy dms and sexually-degrading comments from people who have somehow found my account :')

Honestly, one of my worst fears is an influencer coming up to me when im having a bad day and refusing to cut me out of a video when i dont want to be in it. Ik kinda sounds self-centered but i dont want ppl to see me when i dont want them to. 🦆

I say this all the time and i'll say it again, people have gotten way too comfortable with hiding behind a screen saying stuff they would never say in real life. If these people that are harassing these people online saw this happen in real time likely nothing would happen.

I used to talk to myself in public when I was a kid because it calms me and helps me think things through with a busy ADHD mind and I’m SO glad there wasn’t social media back then 😅 “creepy kid talks to themselves in shop” etc. Unless someone needs recording for possible legal evidence what others are doing is not my problem - not my clown not my circus etc.

As someone who was stalked for two years, and being watched while outside as well while I was in my house, let me tell you: This is scary

"Too nervous to ask for ketchup at McDonalds" I know these people. 👌👌

Like I said in the community post, why was the camera so far from her? Why did she have SO many people in the background? Why do you feel the need to record videos of you doing absolutely NOTHING? Essentially just recording the people surrounding you without their consent... How about you take a few pics and watch the damn game? How about using common sense and understand the concept of boundaries and privacy? I still feel like Jackie was the bigger a-hole in this situation (I do believe she was unaware of her a-holeness lmao). The other girls were being childish and handled things horribly. However, Jackie never should've posted the video... And I call bullsh*t she didn't know it would go viral, EVERYONE knows this type of sh*t goes viral!

I just saw a Instagram reel of someone recording a mom and her kids grocery shopping at a Walmart with the caption that was something along the lines of "Don't home school your kids...they might look weird" and I noticed how 2 of the kids (who were about 6/7) were sorta imitating animals. It's wild now that strangers can make assumptions about that mother's parenting skills, weather or not her kids are home schooled, and making fun of those kids for doing something kids would do.I wish laws could be applied to protect people's privacy. Now I'm afraid to go grocery shopping because people might assumptions about my entire life based of a 10 second interaction or simply just standing around😭

My bestfriend literally ended his life bc of stuff like this... & I still get harassed by strangers telling me he deserved to pass away .... people are so sick its unreal I hope everyone in these situations stay safe bc it can get really really bad fr.😢

People have gotten into this mind set where they are trying to deal with what has happened to them by being mean to people who resemble their bullies or even remotely act like them. Don't get me wrong, bullying is disgusting and it should be stopped but it doesn't mean completely ruining someone's life by doxxing people like what😳

I watched this happen at my gym. This neurodivergent guy was running on the treadmill in a different way and someone outside the gym started filming him, aggravating him. I feel bad for the guy as everyone should feel comfortable at the gym to do their workout in peace.

It genuinely seems like the two girls thought they were being filmed without their consent (which they kind of were) and didn't appreciate it, so they got snooty about it. Maybe they shouldn't have behaved the way that they did, but I would also give someone the finger if I thought they were filming me. Hell, just a few days ago I did it to a drone that, for some reason, was flying over my backyard. Creeped me out. Those girls don't deserve to have their lives destroyed just because they acted a little mean on camera.

I've noticed in dance / yoga classes that teachers love filming the students to put on their Instagram and I haate it. It makes me so uncomfortable and not once has any teacher asked the class for permission to film. It takes me out of the moment and I end up looking weird and awkward in the clip 😤

Hello. I feel that filming strangers is not only wrong but rude. Like you said, both parties could have said something. Also, the video could have been edited. However, in my opinion, I believe the influencer has 200k followers, so she posted it, expecting in reaction to be favorable to her. I feel this way because there are tons of videos with people doing cringe immature things behind influencers and because people find influencers annoying or just silly for doing what they're doing. People tend to side with the people in the back doing whatever. She flipped the script, and it went viral. Bottom line actions have consequences intended or not.

Common decency is really gone with the wind these days ☠️ we’ve become very individualistic as a society caring only for our own feelings our own clout etc that attacking people or not caring about what others feel is so normalized. There should be more care when living in a society so we can all feel comfortable with each other instead of becoming more recluse to avoid “potential unpredictable” problems.

The "mean girls" were rude but I'm totally on their side and I don't think the influencer was a victim of anything; what entitlement! I'd be too shy to ask someone to stop recording me and it would eat away at me, wondering what awful things people were saying about me wherever I'd be posted online to be treated like an entertaining freak show.

If everyone had more empathy and compassion, I truly believe the world would be a better place

I dont understand why these young women are considered soooOOoOoOooo mean for being obnoxious when this woman was trying to film herself at a game in public...yet people dont think it's obnoxious AF for this woman to setup a whole tripod & film multiple takes, being disruptive to everyone in her vicinity who just wanted to have a nice day at the sportsball field, not be a part of some iNfLuEnCeR's "content"?! It would be one thing if she just filmed a quick selfie on her phone - still potentially irksome for those caught in the background, but it's not INTRUSIVE to those around her - and honestly, had it just been a selfie, few people would have noticed or paid attention. But when you have a whole photo setup with a crew member, taking up time & space at a public event, yeah, people are gonna be annoyed. You're being disruptive & a distraction to the other people who came to enjoy the sportball (or concert/movie/pool/beach/whatever). If you wanna do a whole photoshoot at the sportsball field & want to be able to control the images, maybe you should rent out the space, like professional models do.

You should see the insane amount shaming and bulling that’s been going in with Swifties and the Eras tour. People recording to shame outfits, people sitting down during sets, not knowing lyrics. It’s vileeee. Super cringe for our fan base :(

"half of you guys are too anxious to ask for ketchup at Mcdonald's" I'm dead

I literally remember when privacy used to be sooooo important to 99% of humanity & now with the social media age things have literally flipped upside down. I personally don’t use any social media other than this and discord because I think it’s toxic af! The beauty standards are as bad as those or worse that have been in magazines, tv and much more for decades… and it just keeps getting worse! I personally don’t want children but if I did I would still not have them because I would be terrified for their safety, mental and physical health with the way things are in society now a days! I had such bad mental health due to trauma and it wasn’t even like it is now…. I can’t even imagine growing up in this world. 😢

Also, throwback to my last year at physical college back in 2022 where some grown a$$ kids were flat-out recording me for having a tic attack due to my Tourette's and laughing at how I dress (I'm trad goth meets Jazmin Bean and Lady Gaga essentially lol) and started making fun of my name because it's VERY unusual. It's pathetic.

on the train, whenever i take my phone out i make sure to cover the cameras on the back so that no one thinks im filming them. ive had people take photos of me before so i know how unnerving it is.

As someone who is neurodivergent, I get extremely anxious going outside because I'm so afraid of doing something "weird" or "cringy" (i.e. being myself) and being filmed or mocked for it. It's already hard for me to go out and do things, let alone adding this fear of being filmed unknowingly and mocked. It's bad enough when it's to my face, let alone behind my back.

This is the main reason why I left tiktok because of the invasion of privacy. Because of content like this, everyone needs to be more compassionate and empathic toward one another. Now there is this new fear everyone has from social media that if you go outside someone can film you and it creates anxiety for all those around. I wish social media platforms were more regulated instead of like a free for all.

I go to one of the largest public universities and there are SO MANY STREET INTERVIEWERS!! I avoid them like the plague, and thankfully I’ve never been stopped because I always take a different path when I see one, but the amount of times I see random people setting up cameras and filming while not doing ANYTNING still terrifies me. I’ve had friends who fully get harassed by these people on a weekly basis for saying no to being in videos, then getting filmed and posted anyways.

omg salem, i saw the title and was SO glad to see you talk about this bc its just weird. why do that to someone? ive seen ppl say theyre getting nervous about simply existing outside now cus theyre scared of being filmed from afar. its sad. especially when the person isnt even doing anything to bother anyone.

I'll be honest, if you're filming people in public and they get mad at you, they should be allowed to say mean things about you without telling you to stop. If you're involving others without their consent, they should not be obligated to either tell you to stop or to be nice to you.

Maybe I’m too old but I don’t understand why Jackie is sat there with a camera filming. Was she doing anything? Why would you go out to see something but put a camera up to record herself? Is watching someone else, watch something else you can’t see content?

AS IF the people judging them didn’t do something similar at some point. This is so silly. Jackie framed the video in a way to film them. Influencers are so delusional they don’t even care about ruining people’s lives just to play the victim. And yes, the girls behavior was cringy, but it’s just silly, reminds me of high school, at least before everyone took themselves so seriously.

If you can't take a picture or video in public and not get anyone in the picture, don't post it. I went looking through all my photos of when I went to Universal, and only two of them had people in the background, both of which were people I knew. And the only picture of my time at Universal that I posted didn't have a single person in it. It was a photo of the giant Spiderman. The only people you should ever film without consent are....well, if you read my profile name it's easy to tell what I think.

As somebody who has worn alt fashion since a very young age, I've had many run-ins with people trying to record me without my consent (looong before TikTok.) I will say this - every single time I, or us as a group hanging out, tried to calmly ask people not to photograph/film us without permission, it NEVER worked. "I wasn't taking pictures of you" or "Don't worry you weren't in it" but then of course refuses to show the photos. Or claim they deleted it but won't show us that they did. Or even worse, just ignore us and walk away. Even when we stressed that we were minors, it didn't matter. Sometimes we would have to put a sign next to us when we were having meetups asking not to take photos (which ALSO didn't work!) Once you're on someone's phone/camera, there's no way to remove yourself unless you want to grab that person's phone and do it yourself (which is illegal and a really bad idea of course.) The only recourse that we had was to ruin their photos, by covering our faces, glaring, or otherwise making it very clear that we were being harassed in the hopes that the person would delete their photo or at least feel too shameful to show it off. And yes, that sometimes meant flipping off the camera or taking out our phones to snap photos back at them to make them feel how we felt. And just like the girls had mentioned themselves, I have also experienced people pretending like they were having someone take their photo in front of us, then aimed the camera at us to capture us instead. All to hide behind the excuse of "no no no I was just taking my own photo and you all just so HAPPENED to be in it too! Oops teehee oh well." This was a huge and pervasive conversation throughout the online community for our specific fashion, and I'm sure many other alt fashions too. Some had little signs or fans made with "NO PHOTOS" or some variation to use when someone chose to invade their privacy. When I see the clip of these girls in the background, I completely feel their frustration. I've been there and had all of the same reactions. I really can't fault them for it. (As an aside, every time someone politely asked for a photo we were more than happy to oblige. But if you're someone who's invading my privacy and ignoring my consent from the jump, I'm going to assume you have bad intentions and are probably a creep.)

I use to record or take pictures of random people for my snapchat in HS. I remember doing this to one of my friends and one day she went OFF on me in a Walmart, I didn't understand back then why she was so upset because it's not like anyone viewed my Snapchat stories. Now that this behavior has become normalized im so glad that I do not do it anymore because it truly is not normal. People cant just exist in peace and make human error outside anymore and that's scary.

Just yesterday my friends had taken a video of me while I had a horrible pain and then posted it after I told them not to. It’s scary how even those who are close to you record you without consent

I've seen so many other youtube channels say "they deserve it" and had to unsub because that kind of stuff isn't okay. Chopping someones arm off doesn't stop them from stealing guys😅 also people are becoming too comfortable with being vigilantes and ruining others lives this very dangerous and could even cost someone their lives 😢

As someone who’s life could absolutely be ruined if my image got into the wrong hands due to my abusers… please stop recording people even if they aren’t expressing their discomfort

also, hot take: I think that filming strangers and putting them on the internet is a very serious social fauxpas and a mean and shitty thing to do, just like making fun of someone. so no, I don't think Jackie is the victim here, even though she comes across as more likeable is this situation

new fears unlocked: influencers and teenagers social anxiety reached a new peak 📈📈 stonks

I've definitely been in spaces and saw someone holding their phone in a way that definitely LOOKS like someone was filming me (I'm nuerodivergent and it could be paranoia) and immediately want to leave. If I tell my partner or friends or whatever that I felt like I was being filmed, they'll often ask if I want them to say something and the world is kind of scary, so I definitely say no.

It's super interesting what you said about PR apologies. Because I feel like it's very similar to the difference between neurotypical and neurodivergent communication. As an autistic person myself, I always try to explain my reasoning for doing something, while NT people apparently only want an apology, no matter if it's an honest one because everything else is an excuse to them.

What I like about East Asian vloggers or any social media that they have is that they blur strangers on the video and I find that very respectful to the whole masses, I wish western media would adopt that so people identity would be safe.

I do think it's scary that people think they can just video strangers , you never know if that's for something really bad, like abduction. Thank you for the video Salem ,🦆

I'm always confused for whenever something remotely interesting happens in public, all of a sudden people are taking out their phones faster than the speed of light. The thing is, is that even though recording people in public is legal, it's still kinda weird. The only thing I don't understand is how not blurring someone's face can lead people to find out information about that person. How does that work?

The truth is that you shouldn't have to move and wait for someones tiktok, It was 100% the influencers responsibility to ask if they were okay with being in the background and if not, move herself away to film. She was the one who chose to post it too while playing the victim of her own lack of responsibility. She could have just stopped, deleted and moved on or record a new one without the girls in the back. But no, just post it and put them on blast because they didn't want to be in your tiktok. Pitty.

even after covid was deemed "not a public safety concern", i still wore my mask in public for health and privacy reasons. i was getting harassed at my old job even when i wore the mask. now that people feel grossly comfortable recording others in public, it's really reinforced my belief that wearing a mask is still the right choice