Final Verdict! - M2 Pro Mac Mini 3 Weeks Later.

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After 3 weeks of using and testing the M2 Pro Mac Mini I have a good idea of exactly who, the desktop Mac is and isn't for.
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00:00 - Opener
00:14 - Intro / Agenda
01:01 - The Base M2 User
02:57 - Step-Up To the M2 Pro?
06:51 - Who Needs More?
08:30 - Are Memory & SSD Upgrades Worth It?
09:07 - You Do You!
09:46 - Don't Buy a Mac!
10:45 - Compatibility.
11:27 - How Far It's Come.
12:20 - Apple's Desktop Space
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@ElevatedSystems Жыл бұрын

In the original video I wasn't able to get the final timeline to render on the test PC. However, after several days of research and tinkering I was able to get it to work. I had to disable Resizable BAR support in the UEFI, and enable Smart cache rendering in Resolve. The final render did finish faster than the M2 Pro Mac Mini however I did have to wait over 20 minutes for the timeline to cache first so realistically it was twice as long to output the final product. I think ReBAR was just allowing the VRAM to be flooded with too much data all at once.

@TheHoody999 Жыл бұрын

Man I'm still not sure for myself. I need mine for some hobby Fusion 360 work, some small artistic Houdini fluid + particle work. An occassional Handbrake file convert to mkv format and general Office applications, KZfaq etc. Was thinking the M2 Pro with 32GB but is this overkill ? Would love a quick comment @Elevated Systems.

@SeanAdams001 Жыл бұрын

I may be missing something, but I always see videos that compare performance at the same price. I never see a data point showing the minimum price point to achieve the same results from both systems. This is the information I am always looking for in a comparison video but never find.

@ghost-user559 Жыл бұрын

@@SeanAdams001 That’s because PC builds have far too many possible brands and too many options to realistically determine the “base price”. The Mac on the other hand is easy because there are only a few models at a fixed price point

@TonyCrenshawsLatte Жыл бұрын

I was all ready to jump on M2 Pro Mac Mini when it was announced. But thankfully it still is not released in my country yet, which gave me time to watch videos like this, and conclude that my needs would be better served with a used M1 Max Studio. Thanks!

@goobfilmcast4239 Жыл бұрын

U.S. Viewer here: A week or so ago I priced out an Apple Store Refurb base Mac Studio.....with my Military Vet discount, It came out to $1620 (plus Tax with free shipping) total: $1733.40

@llothar68 Жыл бұрын

No they fucked it up by not providing all-in-one iMacs anymore (the 24" doesn't count for me, as long as there is no product-line)

@ghost-user559 Жыл бұрын

@@llothar68 idk it’s way better this way. Honestly most people have really good high definition TVs and monitors and all the computing peripherals. So more people are looking for just a computer, versus paying upfront for a keyboard and mouse and screen if they already have all of those.

@Crackalacking_Z Жыл бұрын

I only discovered this channel recently, looking for Linux on Framework stuff. You guys deserve way more than 40K subs, great presentation, techwise everything rings true. Stellar effort, keep it up!

@bryans8656 Жыл бұрын

This video is absolutely spot on, with objective comparisons by a pro know really knows what he's doing --- I'm very impressed. Apple really nailed the desktop lineup with that M2 Pro mini (I'm not including the Mac Pro since I haven't got a clue where it's headed, besides being expensive).

@surfgreentele Жыл бұрын

Man i love how enveloping and bassy your voice is while you explain things haha, keep up with the awesome reviews boss.

@brichpmr Жыл бұрын

Excellent video! I just opted for a refurbed M1 Mini with 16gigs of ram and a 1TB SSD, upgrading from a late 2014 Mini. For me, the move has been very positive.

@soucouyant Жыл бұрын

Fantastic review. Thanks for your hard work. 🙏 Now you have us hanging for your next video. Nice....now I can't sleep. Well done well done.

@minnami778 Жыл бұрын

I do web dev n photoshop mostly. I eventually decided to go with the base mini M2 pro for desktop set up with 3 displays output and an m1 air for portable. I think if you do intensive professional video editing , the studio is a way to go. Finally I’m done with my setup and I’m very happy with these combo 🎉

@bennym1956 Жыл бұрын

Great video advice. I have a 27" iMac 2017 Intel ( still works great for my needs), but was waiting for a new M2-3 iMac in 27", if and when it comes out. Now leaning toward the M2 Pro Mac Mini.

@jpeisert Жыл бұрын

Well done sir! You're channel is gonna pop.

@sudipchatterjee Жыл бұрын

Excellent and objective assessment! Gratitude, mate! 🙌

@TheGoodBoy219 Жыл бұрын

As enticing it is, my workflow def requires a max chip but I recommended this to quite a few people with less demanding workloads, great video!!!

@MoncoCarser Жыл бұрын

I just placed an order for Mini M2 Pro. More power than I probably do need, but I hope that that translates to longevity. For a long time I was going for a Macbook, and did not expect some little thing like this would convince me to get it :D

@alp4info Жыл бұрын

CJ- Thanks! BTW Keep rocking the Oakley's 🧐👏🏾✊🏾

@eggshi Жыл бұрын

Great review!!

@akin242002 8 ай бұрын

College students in software engineering, bootcamp students, and junior front-end web developers are fine with the base M2 MacMini. Just spec bump it up to $999 for the 16/512GB configuration. Senior Developers may need to upgrade to the M2 Pro MacMini.

@coldacre Жыл бұрын

this is an awesome video and comparison between the various models. great job. I spent a long time researching out what suited me better; I'm a musician spending most of my time in Logic Pro. big sessions with a lot of 3rd party plugins. the Mac Mini Pro was definitely the one to get and I'm so glad that I did. if someone asked me which Mac to get who spends their livelihood editing video? Mac Studio all the way. I do think a little too much is made about fan usage though. it's not a slight on a Mac if the fan comes on. mines only come on once the entire time I've had mine; guess what? I was recording vocals and my Mic didn't pick up a single thing. real world usage. musicians record talking volume or louder. a zero factor the fan coming on

@ebenezergarbrah5255 Жыл бұрын

Excellent presentation. Actually makes the Apple macmini minefield easier to navigate. Thank you very much

@TimWendel Жыл бұрын

Hey there. Thanks for your in-depth look at the different use cases. Did you feel 64GB of your M1 helped with RAM preview speeds and durationin AE? The 32GB of the M2 seems quite low when it comes to it (coming from a PC with 64GB). And what would you say about the trapcode suite and the M1's extra GPUs. Does the extra RAM + GPUs help the M1 enough to justify a buy of older hardware?

@davidbailey9464 10 ай бұрын

While I still think Apple products are $200 to $500 over-priced, I did get one. I have the M2 Pro Mac Mini at based $1299.99. 10 CPU cores, 19 GPU cores, 16GB ram, and 512GB SSD. It's super fast, it's ideal. Mac OS software is the best part. Time machine always works and backs up 100% of my files. iMovie always works and is super easy to use. Photo booth is also very easy to use. I also use notes to remind me of things and have it open at start up. Tons of great apps that Windows has nothing like them at all. There is no backup software on windows that's as easy to use as time machine.

@maxdavids5445 Жыл бұрын

Hi! I primarily use After Effects for rigging and animating many layers, sometimes high res. As much as shorter render times are a blessing I am more concerned about viewport playback and timeline scrubbing, so I can manually view my animations. I was considering the Mac Mini M2 Pro, with upgraded processor, 32GB memory and possibly a 4TB SSD. With these added costs would I be better purchasing the base Mac Studio, which still costs a lot more?

@juexinh744 10 ай бұрын

Yes. Gotta double that mammory bandwidth 😂

@donvittoriosierra Жыл бұрын

Do the fans kick in and become noisy if not doing the hardcore workflow you did on the m2 pro? Does it generally even run much hotter than the standard mini m2 when doing basic things with maybe a little of logic pro?

@RobsMemoryLane Жыл бұрын

I'm looking to get a new computer to edit 4K video as a hobbyist for family videos. I've never owned a Mac and have never used Final Cut Pro, but I'm not sure if I should go for base Studio or Mini. The 32 GB of RAM is where I'm unsure if I should focus on.

@ssmith2019 Жыл бұрын

Good Vid ! Gracias !

@TheTrippleTKA Жыл бұрын

I need to upgrade from my really old iMac to a new system. I'm slightly above hobbiest, and slightly, slightly below pro. I mostly do photoshop, illustrator and 3D design. I'm learning C4D. Which is the best for me? I'm debating between a baseline M1 or slightly maxed out M2 pro mini? HELP!

@elliem1 Жыл бұрын

Do you think a 16gb M2 pro mac mini would be enough for work like web design on Figma, along with working on illustrator and Photoshop?

@ottobyte Жыл бұрын

Very helpful video thanks. I really want to go for the base studio with 1tb. Im just very concerned that M2 studios could come out any time. Decisions!

@paulhorn24 Жыл бұрын

Michael, do not worry: A new version of the Mac Studio with the "M2 Ultra" chip is unlikely to arrive in the near future, according to Bloomberg's Mark Gurman. In the latest edition of his "Power On" newsletter, Gurman explained that since the upcoming Apple silicon Mac Pro is "very similar in functionality to the Mac Studio," Apple may wait until the release of M3- or M4-series chips to update the machine, or simply never refresh the device at all: „I wouldn't anticipate the introduction of a Mac Studio in the near future. The upcoming Mac Pro is very similar in functionality to the Mac Studio - and adds the M2 Ultra chip rather than the M1 Ultra. So it wouldn't make sense for Apple to offer an M2 Ultra Mac Studio and M2 Ultra Mac Pro at the same time. It's more likely that Apple either never updates the Mac Studio or holds off until the M3 or M4 generation. At that point, the company may be able to better differentiate the Mac Studio from the Mac Pro.“ (quote by Mark Gurman) To date, little has been rumored about the next-generation Mac Studio, so Gurman's latest remarks are the firmest indication yet that a new version of the machine is unlikely to arrive any time soon. Last month, it emerged that Apple reportedly scaled back its plans for the first Apple silicon Mac Pro, scrapping the "M2 Extreme" chip and falling back on non-user-upgradable memory and the same design as the 2019 model. The device is now expected to offer the M2 Ultra only - a chip that would also have logically come to the next-generation Mac Studio. The M2 Ultra chip is almost certain to double-up the capabilities of the recently introduced M2 Max chip, which is currently only available in the 14- and 16-inch MacBook Pro. With reduced modularity and similar performance on the upcoming Mac Pro, Apple's move to hold off on updating the Mac Studio's hardware may make sense until it can work out a better strategy for the machine's positioning going forward. Source: macrumors com on Sunday February 5, 2023 6:06 am PST by Hartley Charlton

@ottobyte Жыл бұрын

@@paulhorn24 that’s very useful information-thanks very much!

@suman_ku_mishra Жыл бұрын

I want a machine that is better for freelance video & photo editing. which one will be better? ( Ican't afford mac studio )

@frazerweb Жыл бұрын

Apple neglected its high end power users, and seem to focusing on laptop and the mac line up. Will the mac studio see a processor upgrade, and is the mac pro worth upgrading if you can't upgrade it as it will be an all in one. With M3 and M4 chips in the future I'll stick with my M1 macbook pro.

@jaymeez 10 ай бұрын

I have a 2015 MacBook Pro and it's lasted me many years faithfully but is running super slow now. I never take this laptop out of my house. It just sits on a dock and serves as a desktop computer. Most of the things I do are simple like using Apple Numbers, Pages, watch youtube and stream other videos (Paramount+, HBO, etc) and once in a while I will load up Final Cut Pro and edit a video. I eventually want to get a new MacBook Pro but probably in 2-3 years when I plan to actually travel. In the mean time I am wondering which one of these would be best for me. I always have multiple chrome tabs open. I think the base model mac mini seems too under powered and will become obsolete within 3 years. Maybe I should just buy a new MacBook PRo now and use it and a desktop. Too bad if that's the case because I wanted something to fill the next 2 years at least so I could wait for the M4 of whatever is coming and also that will be when I plan to travel and will need the portability.

@renesanchez53 Жыл бұрын

what do you think about buying a base mac mini 16gb ram with 256ssd with an external drive ssd, working video editing mostly 1080 and some 4k projects but not much and some Lightroom photo editing. OR"future proof" and get the base pro For Standard 4k edits. money isn't really the issue i just like saving money if possible. Thoughts>>??? Anyone .

@ricardorgomez Жыл бұрын

I love your 'professional roi' take on systems and the longer review time you take to flesh them out. Too many KZfaqrs have no experience outside of their little KZfaq channel and try to give their 'professional' take. They'll run some test and get the video out. Not really helpful. As a pro photographer and valuing roi, I watt to keep my system for a good 5 years. So with that, I'm probably going with the Mac Studio. I just haven't decided on the Max or Ultra. I think the Ultra may be worth the extra $1400 if it gives me an extra 2 years of useable life. Maybe.

@MDTKITECH 8 ай бұрын

M2 pro mac mini 16gb ram 512 storage or pc build i5 13600k 32gb ddr4 ram rtx3060 12gb which will be better for video editing

@doesntmatter5704 Жыл бұрын

Excellent video! Which would you recommend for a stock trader who wants to run 2-49” monitors with 4 to 6 charts displayed at any given time, the M2, M2 with processor and RAM upgrades, or the M2Pro?

@ElevatedSystems Жыл бұрын

Web apps? 4k Monitors? the M2 Minin will be fine for that.

@jamescook5931 Жыл бұрын

I love your videos. Are you saying the base Mac studio with 32 gigs of ram is all I need to do any video editing? Even 8k video? What about storage? Is 2 TB of storage too much to buy? Would you buy external storage? Thank you?

@ElevatedSystems Жыл бұрын

My Mac studio handles 8K pretty well. Check out my Mac Studio series, I did a video on editing. I only got 512 GB of storage and I edit off the same external USB-C drives I record to. I wouldn't pay Apple's upgrade cost for storage.

@abrock6215 Жыл бұрын

So far I have watched quite a number KZfaq videos on the Mac Mini, M2 and Pro models as well as the MacBook Pro, and Mac Studio. I am still unsure which one would be best for Adobe Photoshop which I use to create very large image files. Since Photoshop seems to always eat up memory faster than a starving dog. It's really difficult to make a decision.

@ElevatedSystems Жыл бұрын

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nayFktZ4kp2ziWQ.html I was able to work with some large images with the M1iMac with just 16GB of memory.

@ArthropodSpidey Жыл бұрын

"All you had to do was follow the train, CJ!"

@philfyphil Жыл бұрын

You definitely need 32 gig of RAM and preferably 1TB of disk if you are using it for multi track audio using lots of VSTs.

@UKAbandonedMineExplores Жыл бұрын

Eerm, I think your underselling the base mac mini, I use the m1 for 4k video editing with effects and all and it handles it all, no problem :)

@ElevatedSystems Жыл бұрын

That's exactly what I said it was good for 2:40

@saibhargavamanda1062 Жыл бұрын

Why not apple integrate SD card slot into these?

@TheHoody999 Жыл бұрын

Man I'm still not sure for myself. I need mine for some hobby Fusion 360 work, some Houdini work. An occassional Handbrake file convert to mkv format and general Office applications, KZfaq etc. Was thinking the M2 Pro with 32GB but is this overkill ? Would love a quick comment @Elevated Systems.

@paulhorn24 Жыл бұрын

Does Apple in your country have this 14 day no questions asked return policy?

@ElevatedSystems Жыл бұрын

Does Houdini have METAL support yet? you may want to look into how well Houdini runs on Apple Silicon first.

@IvanColumbro Жыл бұрын

Taking into account that the main use I would make of it is the development of web applications (Angular, NestJS, WordPress, Docker Desktop, etc...) what should I choose between a Mac mini M2 8GB, a Mac mini M2 Pro 16GB or a mini PC with Ryzen 9 6900HX CPU and 32GB of RAM?

@IvanColumbro Жыл бұрын

@@thangarajmurugan9610 do you think for my use case it's better to have slower CPU and SSD but more RAM?

@alanma244 Жыл бұрын

did substance painter, unreal engine5 and marmoset work well on M2

@StudioKelpie1993 10 ай бұрын

I have an Macbook Air 15Inch model with 10 GPU cores and it ran both Blender and ZBrush incredibly well, but then again I have access to high end Windows PCs to help with rendering and I mostly use Eevee renderer because it's easier to use and unlike Cycles, is more friendly to us Indie Artists

@JoATTech Жыл бұрын

After watching endless reviews I got impression that base M2 can handle any 4k. But it seems it can handle just ProRes 4k, H264 is not smooth in Davinci :(.

@callmeNeno Жыл бұрын

I have MacBook Air M1 second tiered one with 8 ram 8gpu 512 connected to my Dell 34” monitor. I was thinking of getting the Mac mini M2 base model to have a dedicated desktop and free up my MacBook Air. You think it’s a good idea or waste of cash?

@ElevatedSystems Жыл бұрын

If you won't be using both at the same time, just get a good docking station for the Air for a quick one cable desktop connection for it.

@callmeNeno Жыл бұрын

@@ElevatedSystems that sounds reasonable: thank you for your support

@vagoguy Жыл бұрын

i'm actually in the same debate. i have 2017 macbook pro 16G 2.9 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i7. i'm a photographer, musician (electro music) and photographer - using it for lightroom, photoshop, luminar, davinci simple video editing, and also music production with vsts. currently i need to close off programs work properly - and i still have lags and slowness. not sure if the best option for me is the M1 Studio 32G or 64G (10c CPU 32c GPU) or the Mini with M2 pro 32G 10 or 12c CPU 19c GPU. - will the 32G be enough or do i need the 64G? - which will be faster - youtubers finds that in some ways the m2 is faster, in others the m1 is. both will be much faster than what i currently have. WDYT?

@bearlylivable 11 ай бұрын

That’s what I’m betting on. I’m think it will be enough. I just wish the M3 chip would come out as I’m sure it will drive that base model mac studio down $$ hopefully more

@1500sonnye Жыл бұрын

Love your video’s on the M2pro, I’m a musician running Logic Pro, should i get the M2pro with 16g of ram or upgrade to the 32g ??

@silverbulletin846 Жыл бұрын

thanks for videos - would you buy a mac mini m1 /m2 base model for (learning 3D work zbrush - marri - blender - redshift - unreal engine 5 ect) i do have a 4070ti pc, but im thinking on switching to mac for several reasons other than 3d, like video edtiing - low noise ect - but i would like it to be able to aleast learn thise tools still on the mac. but im scare that it would not be good expirence - want do you think is more importent for this >>- a bigger SSD (esp on the m2 as its slower) - more ram than the 8GB base on both or more cpu/gpu cores - i dont have the budget to make it all happen in one box. (i had i my mind, IF i ever made something good i could just pay some render guy/farm to render the project out for me???) so i just need to learn, if i like it and get better at it, i would just buy a computer that fits that future with w/e gpu is needed at that time.

@ElevatedSystems Жыл бұрын

The simple answer is No. Your 4070 TI system is infinitely better for 3D work. For example there isn't a MacOS version of Mari and UE5 compatability is significantly lacking.

@silverbulletin846 Жыл бұрын

@@ElevatedSystems yes the 4070ti very good, but for other reason i wanna swap to mac, but i would like to still have the option to learn some 3d work os if i exclude mari. is the m2 with 16GB ram and an external SSD the better option? or can i swing it with the 8GB models and it will do fine for beginner stuff.

@stevedeitry4644 Жыл бұрын

9:40 Preach Brother!

@grizzlypaws461 Жыл бұрын

Try the base M2 first. It’s more than capable!

@YamakuziTv Жыл бұрын

So i dont really like Mac, but i use some programs that just run better on Mac. So my question is, which one should i get? I do Coding, video editing, Design Thought about getting the 16gb, 500gb Mac mini

@larrycrockett1356 Жыл бұрын

Purchased this configuration after a lot of research. The "bang for the buck" is pretty good. Thought about 1 TB storage upgrade, but it is too expensive. I will settle for external storage which also gives me multiple copies. Upgrade to 32 gb unified memory likewise regrettably expensive. Figure out what you need given your workflow, then upgrade that some for longevity. I was going to get the M2 mini 16gb/512 gb storage, but decided the Pro will enable me to keep it a year or two longer.

@laurentroose2429 Жыл бұрын

Isn’t it the case that editing programs are getting sofisticating that ( like in 2 years) you don’t need the power like the studio? I see many youtubers with mac studio’s and maybe they have too much money…. As a creative freelancer I will use the mac mini pro. (Excuse me for writing faults, I’m from Belgium 😅)

@grampamix21 Жыл бұрын

what would be most important to work with large images? CPU 12-core + GPU 19-core or 32 GB?

@ElevatedSystems Жыл бұрын

More memory is going to be important for larger images.

@coy9898 Жыл бұрын

I got the base M2 Pro, what monitor would you recommend to pair with it, i don’t game.

@coscraj Жыл бұрын

studio display

@deoccultist Жыл бұрын

I think for a pro digital artist who uses Photoshop, the M2 Pro (with only 16gb RAM) is beyond sufficient. I was originally going for the Mac Studio, but I don't do any 4K editing, nor do I have half a dozen apps running. The most I have open is Photoshop and Brave Browser with Nord VPN running. The M2 Pro makes 16 GB of RAM feel like more. And you can find refurbished ones from Apple for a few hundred dollars less, often with extra ram, SSD size, or 10GB ethernet. If you have a heavy workload, the Studio is best. If all you need is one primary creative app running, the M2 Pro is enough.

@emmanuelcheveau4891 Жыл бұрын

Hi, I wish to buy a M2 mini as a desktop computer. I never edit video and I never use application like Finalcut. The M2 pro it's definitely too powerfull for me. But I'm looking for a mac mini that will last 5 years. What do you think of the M2 mini / 512 Gb / 16 RAM ??

@ElevatedSystems Жыл бұрын

I think it's $1000, but you may be one of the people that it dosen't make sense to spend the extra $300 on the Pro.

@emmanuelcheveau4891 Жыл бұрын

@@ElevatedSystems I don't know How to interpret your answer. I never use application like final cut but I want to be able to use this mac for the next 5 years.

@onimashou8705 Жыл бұрын

Excluding the Mac Display and the Ages old LG, what’s a good monitor to pair with the mini pro?

@realreeb Жыл бұрын

So that all depends if you plan to have several plus tabs open. If your don't plan on multitasking then you could just get the base model with 256ssd and 8gb ram. But if you do, then upgrade the ram or the ssd for the the longevity. The problem with getting just the 8gb ram and 256 ssd is that what will happen, if you start using more than the 8gb ram, the mac will start using the ssd as vram, which in turn will kill the life span of the mac. So if you do want it to last 5 plus years with no worries at all then I would upgrade the ram to 16gb and to save money I'd buy an external ssd, you can get a 1TB ssd for like 100 (supper fast one)

@emmanuelcheveau4891 Жыл бұрын

@@realreeb thanks :)

@Michaelaz62 Жыл бұрын

Please tell me about your monitor. It appears that you have a curved monitor. I currently use two monitors; however, I would like to change to an ultra-wide curved monitor. Will you offer some suggestions

@ElevatedSystems Жыл бұрын

It's a LG 40WP95C-W 40” UltraWide, it's a great display but it cost more than the M2 Pro Mini. There are links to all my equipment in the video description.

@phillblake6829 7 ай бұрын

I thought the new mini ran silent 😮

@MarcoFinances Жыл бұрын

Should I get mac Mini with 256GB and buy an external drive?

@larrycrockett1356 Жыл бұрын

256gb probably enough space but the problem is that it is noticeably slower.

@Dr.Kimble Жыл бұрын

the M2Pro Mac Mini is louder than the M1 Max Studio? i cant believe it, because most people discussed the loud M1 Max Studio and Max Tech says that the M2 Pro Mac Mini is quiet. What is the truth?

@ElevatedSystems Жыл бұрын

I've never heard the fan on my M1 Max Studio. Not once in 10 months. The M2 Pro Mini you heard in this video was raw audio of it while rendering a premiere pro 4k video. It sounded like that while working in the render viewport in Blender and when doing content aware fill in After Effects. The studio did all that without as much as a whisper.

@accentontheoff Жыл бұрын

Thanks, one semi related question. So, for heavy duty music production, the Mac Mini M2 Pro base model with 16 GB would be enough? Or would the extra RAM resulting in 32GB (as specced into the Mac Mini M2 Pro or available by default in the base model Mac Studio M1 Max) help.

@ElevatedSystems Жыл бұрын

Logic Pro is very well optimized for Apple Silicone, however, it is still CPU speed and memory intensive, so the faster M2 Pro will perform better, and the more memory you have the more you can do. With that said it depends on your definition of "Heavy Duty". I ran Logic Pro projects with up to 36 tracks, with multiple instruments, effects, and plug-ins on the M2 Pro base model with no issues but I'm not a Logic Pro user or expert. It's also good to keep in mind that Apple has a 14-day no questions asked return policy, so......

@accentontheoff Жыл бұрын

@@ElevatedSystems Thanks yes. Which processor would you say is faster - the M1 Max or the M2 Pro.

@haysoos123 Жыл бұрын

@@accentontheoff The M1 Max still has a faster GPU, but the M2 Pro will be a faster CPU, so for music production you'll want that because you wouldn't need much GPU power.

@accentontheoff Жыл бұрын

@@haysoos123 Yeah that does make sense thanks.

@jeremyl5509 Жыл бұрын

More VSTs are starting to leverage using GPUs vs outboard/dedicated hardware which the Mac Studio would excel at - also saw several demos with ProTools Studio M1 Native (beta version) running on a Mac Mini M2 Pro with 430 tracks - no issues. Either Mac would be more than capable - 32GB RAM would be great for large sample libraries that must be loaded into RAM vs streaming. Just depends on your workflow / requirements. I use my 16" Macbook Pro M1 Pro with Bitwiq and Cubase Pro 12 - no issues with larger track counts.

@Sasoon2006 Жыл бұрын

8GB RAM and 256GB SSD base model is silly in 2023. It was the same in 2013, and even then I bought Macbook with 16GB ram and 512GB ssd, and I was using it up to last year. And even then it was working fine, I just wanted to get a new one. If Mac Mini M2 base model was 16GB/512GB, and they kept the last year price (+100$), they would sell so much of them, they would not be able to produce enough

@alp4info Жыл бұрын

Hi CJ!

@sadeqsanee 10 ай бұрын

Hello; I hope you are well, man What is your suggestion for buying Mac Mini? I am a graphic designer, and part of my work is 3D space, but not too heavy Chip M2Pro or M1Pro? Basic model or... Thank you if you help me

@piyushgupta1606 10 ай бұрын

Hi CJ Grove 4 life 👍🏻

@robbokeys Жыл бұрын

Is it me or does this guy sound a bit like Christopher Walken? great video though 👍🏻

@digibactechnologies Жыл бұрын

4:20 - Double the "Mammory Bandwidth" ???

@ElevatedSystems Жыл бұрын

My wife walked by at that moment. Freudian slip I guess.

@allanon1122 Жыл бұрын

I opted for the M2 Pro Mac mini and couldn’t be happier. Using it mainly as a business professional and feel like I have plenty of horsepower. I debated the M2 but didn’t want to feel disappointed or frankly go for the model that college kids will buy 😂

@Tigerex966 Жыл бұрын

Non upgradeable desktops are not really desktops. They are stopgaps.

@larrycrockett1356 Жыл бұрын

Computers have limited lifetimes. Apple made the decision some time ago that user upgrades can introduce lots of problems. So a "walled garden" which some like and some detest. I would rather buy what I need upfront and not worry much about compatibility. A Lexus costs more than a Toyota. Worth it? Maybe.

@Tigerex966 Жыл бұрын

@@larrycrockett1356 bad analogy as cars can be upgraded and serviced by independent repair shops over a lifetime. Computers don't have limited lifetimes that's a lie in most cases with upgradeable ones, they want you to believe and need you to believe they do to continue to sell you a newer and faster one . In fact old computers are needed and wanted all over the world. Now yes they do not thave the newer 4 k8k video editing and power to handle newer games 3d ai and other apps or the by design newer os made specifically to leave the old ones behind and to end support for them, when often they are faster and more capable then some of the newer ones because of upgradability to ram internal storage GPU egpu ports. Not always but often. We saw this when upgradeable Mac pros were end of life no support and slower non upgradeable MacBook airs no where near as powerful but new got full support. Good thing Linux exist for man mac's and PCs this proves they are useful you can also make a chrome book. In some cases they perform better now then with the old os It is exactly the non upgradeable machines that by definition have the most limited lifetimes and repairability adding to ewaste as they are always timestamped by their date and factory build specs. .once that memory or storage goes the machine is effectively bricked for good in many cases wasting all the other parts as even screen speakers and ports are now being locked to one cpu machine for life. It is the worst thing to happen in the computer space to consumers in a chase for more profit limited lifespans and no repairability and more ewaste. Sad to see many promoting it because of brand loyalty and don't get me wrong Microsoft too is guilty of the same tactics.

@philfyphil Жыл бұрын

I’d rather wait a few months and get the M2 Studio

@epcalderhead Жыл бұрын

I'm in your camp to wait, but don't feel too confident we'll get an M2 Studio in that time frame. A spec'd Mac Pro to Match the Studio is a Hobson's choice.

@MusicalMemeology 11 ай бұрын

M3 out in oct most likely

@nareshvasishth4034 Жыл бұрын

Apple should do like Trader Joes and Costco do. Limit the selection to make it easy to make a decision. Just a consumers opinion.

@codenamegrs9278 Жыл бұрын

The fact that since 2016, Apple has been soldering the SSDs onto the Mac motherboards is an Absolute Abomination. On top of that they also overcharge 4x the price per TeraByte. ON TOP OF ALL THAT. When your SSD fails you (and it will eventually), when you go to apple for a repair/replacement you'll find out the way that Apple chooses to go about this "repair". They will replace your whole MOTHERBOARd with ALL components on it just because your SSD failed. aaaaand.... it will Cost you at least 50% of what you paid for that Apple machine. P.S. I've been an apple mac book user since 2015 (Still have the Macbook Pro 15 inch Late 2014) and i really enjoy using Logic pro X and Davinci Resolve on it and i'm also an iPhone user since 2011.. But the devious nefarious shit that Apple has been doing for a while is really pushing me out of their dumb ways....

@larrycrockett1356 Жыл бұрын

I have lots of smart friends who share this view and lots who do not. My son builds his own PCs and fairly routinely has complex problems to solve. I would rather get a system I know will work well so I can focus on the problems I need to solve in the software development I do. The fact that Apple is a $3 trillion company means lots of people opt for its philosophy. Good that you and my son have the option to take a different route.

@helmar_rudolph 10 ай бұрын

Amen.

@techfancyofficial 10 ай бұрын

Looks like he is apple product promoter

@ElevatedSystems 10 ай бұрын

Looks like you haven't checked out the entire channel.

@Sambadk55 Жыл бұрын

IF I HAVE TO COMMENT ON YOUR VIDEO I WOULD SAY IS INCOMPLETE AS LONG AS YOU DID NOT SAY A WORD ABOUT NAND CHIP ON MAC MINI 2 ….WE STILL DO NOT KNOW HOW SLOW IT GOT MAC MINI M2 VERSUS M1 AND HOW MANY NAND ARE EQUIPPED ON THIS MACHINES. APPLE IS DOWNGRADING NAND CHIP. WHAT ABOUT HDMI 2.1 ? HOW GOOD IT IS AND IS IT A GAIND FOR MAC MINI PRO ? APPLE STUDIO DOES NOT HAVE THAT BUT STILL YOU RECOMMEND THAT ( I FEEL AS LONG AS YOU BOUGHT THAT YOU HAVE A KIND OF WEAKNESS TOWARDS MAC STUDIO….