7 Unwinnable Boss Fights You Could Actually Beat If You Were Diligent Enough

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Final Fantasy has featured quite a few unwinnable boss fights over the years, but some of them are actually winnable! It's those fights we're running through in this video!
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@Artofficial1986
@Artofficial1986 29 күн бұрын
If you are diligent enough - you can defeat your boss irl too. You can do it!
@Typical.Anomaly
@Typical.Anomaly 29 күн бұрын
I cast Vanish on myself all the time at work. Never thought about Vanish/X-Zone-ing my boss though. I'll let you know how that goes...
@spectreshot8536
@spectreshot8536 29 күн бұрын
My boss and I have scrapped before. I had youth on my side. Now I'm 37. He's 46. We have been working together for 11 years. You CAN win. You just still lose.
@KevinKurosaki777
@KevinKurosaki777 29 күн бұрын
Technically you can defeat your boss irl, but the next scene will still play out as a scripted loss as you are then fired and arrested 😂
@Kingnothing7x
@Kingnothing7x 29 күн бұрын
Use the stapler, it has an improved crit rate
@mhill0425
@mhill0425 29 күн бұрын
The strategy is to become their boss and then fire them.
@SebasTian58323
@SebasTian58323 28 күн бұрын
The serpent in ffvii is such a great example of a boss meant to be unbeatable at the time, simply to force the players to get a chocobo
@JesseHenderson-xc2kg
@JesseHenderson-xc2kg 28 күн бұрын
Tell that to young me, who really wanted that spell on my enemy skill....
@dirrdevil
@dirrdevil 27 күн бұрын
​@@JesseHenderson-xc2kgthe skill is "Beta" which only defeats players that are its namesake, jk
@andrieputra
@andrieputra 26 күн бұрын
midgarsorm ?
@veghesther3204
@veghesther3204 25 күн бұрын
Correct but it can truely NEVER die unlike all the bosses on this video that stay dead IF you can kill them.
@kanardy
@kanardy 25 күн бұрын
Young me after seeing the Midgar Zolom impaled on a tree by Sephiroth: ummm...I'm going back to the farm 😮
@zedruumd2119
@zedruumd2119 29 күн бұрын
When I played the PC version of FFVIII, my disc 1 was scratched and would always freeze up during the cutscene where Quistis guns down the X-ATM092. So I dedicated myself to beating it, by playing a lot of triple triad in the early game to junction Tornado (from Abyss worm cards) to Squall's Strength and Thundaga (from Blitz cards) to elemental attack. This allowed Squall to deal thousands of damage with each hit and quickly deplete the boss's HP multiple times in one fight. It was only later that I found out I could have also avoided the Quistis cutscene by hiding in cafe, but at least I had an overpowered Squall for the rest of the disk!
@ppmguire
@ppmguire 29 күн бұрын
You could also be super OP before even beating Ifrit by grinding to draw magic from all outside enemies to 100. Then after junctioning to raise stats go and grind the T-Rex for a bit.
@Jurarigo
@Jurarigo 29 күн бұрын
Slight offtopic, but when I was a kid my older brother and I rented the PSX version of FF VIII and this exact problem happened at the start of disc 2, when the prison started to rise. There was no way to skip that cutscene that we knew of... We had to wait until we could buy an original copy.
@briansilva3765
@briansilva3765 27 күн бұрын
@@ppmguire It's way faster and more efficient to just Refine cards, drawing spells from enemies it's more of a clutch than the main method, FF VIII would probably have a better reputation if they pushed the Refine system more than the Draw on field. As the OP said, you could just refine abyss and junction that to ATK to break the game, and you can do that before Ifrit in a number of ways, it takes slight less than an hour to unlock everything necessary.
@deathblade32
@deathblade32 27 күн бұрын
​@ppmguire Level grinding is the worst thing in FFVIII All enemies are [party's average level] *[.8-1.2] they also gain stats at a faster rate than the heroes. Unless you really want to grind like hell for the item drips or use the tonberry money trick, so you can get max stats, it's best to wait until getting all the ___ lvl up options before grinding up so your stats actually level up near the same as them and actually be at their level
@xaby996
@xaby996 27 күн бұрын
Primal liquid did a video on this
@wknight8111
@wknight8111 29 күн бұрын
A great example of this is in ChronoTrigger where you can beat Lavos at times and places where you normally aren't supposed to, with special endings to go with each. You can, for example, use the gate in the bucket to defeat Lavos as soon as you get to the end of time, without ever dealing with Magus, meeting Ayla, or assembling the masamune for Frog. New Game+ makes this one trivially easy. Less well known is that you can defeat Lavos during the Ocean Palace disaster. It's probably the toughest time to fight Lavos, but there's a cool ending if you do it.
@veghesther3204
@veghesther3204 29 күн бұрын
That's a IF since even at lv 60 on a first run with the best BUYABLE armors odds are its opening move will still hit for 999 damage before you get 1 attack off HECK AT LV 60 with the Prism Helms on the entire party its opening attack STILL hits for like 750 damage a turn but so can the REST of its moves on a NG+ run at the Ocean Palace while having 3x a much HP.
@Nathan_Talisien
@Nathan_Talisien 28 күн бұрын
Never change, Vegh... Never change.
@WhirlyBeepBoops
@WhirlyBeepBoops 27 күн бұрын
I managed an instance of beating a boss meant to be unwinnable in Nexomon, that being the very first fight with Ziegler. You can't even use items in that fight, so not only do you have to grind, but you also need to be lucky enough to stunlock him. Still didn't change the cutscene.
@Milktube
@Milktube 27 күн бұрын
@@Nathan_Talisien How is he still around, cancering up random youtube comment sections? He's been ruining forums for a good 30 years now and is STILL GOING?
@Nathan_Talisien
@Nathan_Talisien 27 күн бұрын
@@Milktube To quote Babe Ruth in, "The Sandlot"... "Legends never die, kid." 😋
@neogriff
@neogriff 29 күн бұрын
that FMV scene of Quistis alone worth not to destroyed the darned spider robot.
@samfowler2073
@samfowler2073 29 күн бұрын
It was foundational... foundational
@MrEli768
@MrEli768 29 күн бұрын
When I first played FF8, I thought you were SUPPOSE to beat that robot, and I did beat it, I didn't even know about that cut scene till WAY later when I replayed the game again a few years later and decided to just run
@Th3BlackLotus
@Th3BlackLotus 29 күн бұрын
That's why she's the Queen of FF games.
@veghesther3204
@veghesther3204 29 күн бұрын
But I tend to FARM it for the 50 AP constantly BELOW BLOWING it up on the FINAL screen on the PS4 remaster I do NOT need LV 60+ GF's to blow it up just turn on the GOD mode cheat give Squall a high enough Str and have him LIMIT break it to death.
@WeWillAlwaysHaveVALIS
@WeWillAlwaysHaveVALIS 29 күн бұрын
​@@Th3BlackLotuslol, no
@NightVisionPhantom
@NightVisionPhantom 29 күн бұрын
An honorable mention should be the shell part of the Whelk/Ymir 1st boss in Final Fantasy 6. You're only supposed to attack the head to defeat it, and if you attack the shell, it deals a nasty electrical counterattack. However, after a while it runs out of MP to cast it, and with unlimited healing from your Magitek Armor, you can use TekMissile with Terra and the different beams with Biggs/Wedge. You only get a pitiful tincture/ether for your efforts, but it's technically possible.
@MrEli768
@MrEli768 29 күн бұрын
I actually did beat it when I played it on the SNES, I thought you were suppose to, and I was pretty apt at reading the screen prompts along with later in the fight, predicting when to not attack it because I knew it would "hide" its head in it's shell
@veghesther3204
@veghesther3204 29 күн бұрын
BUT that shell almost has much HP as the MAGIC Master boss at least 60,000 that its NOT worth it.
@kieranowens5346
@kieranowens5346 27 күн бұрын
​@@MrEli768Don't lie brother. The shell has 60,000 health and you have to know it's able to run out of MP, and notice that it has done so. It takes multiple hours to kill it.
@veghesther3204
@veghesther3204 25 күн бұрын
Still not worth it.
@Shadohime
@Shadohime 29 күн бұрын
Possible video idea: "7 Most Rewarding Optional Areas". Areas, towns, etc. that the game does not direct you to through normal gameplay, that you have to find via exploration. Examples include the Omega Ruins of FFX, Daguerreo from FFIX, etc.
@lordnoodle2146
@lordnoodle2146 29 күн бұрын
Baaj temple ffx, the Zartinan caverns ffxii, the crashed sub ffvii. It could be a fun list. FFXII has a bit of a weird one in the fact that a lot of the locations you got to has optional returns or are prompted by the hunt system but FFX could fill up a list on its own probably with the two we mentioned, Reminum temple, temple of the lost faith, the cactura village and probably more I can't recall at this time. Would be an intriguing list
@beebajazz
@beebajazz 29 күн бұрын
Gongaga
@Shadohime
@Shadohime 28 күн бұрын
@@beebajazz That one's a bit murky, since you do actually go to Gongaga in the main story at one point, after Aerith leaves the party following the events at the Temple of the Ancients.
@Alex-ks3uu
@Alex-ks3uu 25 күн бұрын
I like places that expand the story/world building and also give a nice benefit for the player. FF 1-6 either don't remember or haven't played. FF7 would probably be Wutai, I have to imagine. Important to the world-building and gives a character, but you might never even enter it if you aren't exploring iirc. As far as I remember, while you're told Wutai exists and maybe its general area, you'd have to find it and nothing tells you to go there? FF8 I honestly don't remember the game enough for this. FF9 - Confession... I've never gotten past disc 1... FFX I'd actually do the Cavern of the Stolen Fayth. You have to stumble upon it, and it's really cool in a bunch of ways. The crusader training ground just outside it, which is fun world building. The story for Lulu. The story for the Fayth. Yojimbo and having to hire him. Etc. As far as I can remember, nothing in the game ever directs you down there. Second to that, I would do Remiem Temple. But the story around Belgamine isn't as compelling as the one for Lulu. And the Magus sisters are cool, but Yojimbo is awesome (and can one-shot some of the hardest bosses in the game). Also, if the theme is exploration, you do get told that Remiem temple is nearby iirc, where the Cavern of the Stolen Fayth is pure exploration. FF11 - Actually most of the game would qualify for this, since it wasn't a directive game. MOST things were found through player exploration and experimentation, including unlocks for all of the jobs. Plus the prime summon enemies, I think? Etc. FF12 has a bunch of optional areas. So maybe the Necrohol of Nabudis. Very nice world building in that, and in the original it was where the Zodiac Spear was, and it's where an Esper is. But I think hunts will send you there, so depends on our classification on what directs players. FF13 has two optional areas you'd find from exploration, though you'd be led there by hunts. So same general issue as before. FF14 - nothing I can think of that really qualifies outside of just being fun world-building environments. I can't think of anything I'd really qualify, especially since quests get put on the minimap. But maybe Eureka would sorta qualify though, since you have to learn by doing/exploring in Eureka if you don't use a guide. You'd be directed to go to Eureka Anemos though. But without a guide you'd have to discover by trial/error/exploration what you need to progress further. But you are told that there's future stuff/goals, so I dunno that I'd really include this. FF15 - 95% of the game is optional, including most of the tombs, so IDK what to do with that. FF16 - I'm only 85% through it, so I dunno what comes later, but nothing really comes to mind. I enjoy exploring the maps for some world building and such, but I don't think I've really found anything "secret" that I wasn't sent to by a hunt. Or, maybe another way to put it, I've found some hidden gems that I ASSUME will be locations for future hunts because there's nothing to do there. There's a mansion in the woods near the prison fort place, for instance.
@lordnoodle2146
@lordnoodle2146 25 күн бұрын
All I am hearing is this needs to happen
@Maxbeedo2
@Maxbeedo2 29 күн бұрын
Based on difficulty I'd say the first Demon Wall in FFXII is much harder than Ba'gamnan's crew, given the very short time limit, Telega removing one party member from the fight, and it silencing/sleeping/blinding the party constantly, so you kinda have to be "overpowered" to punch through all that fast enough. Ba'gamnan's crew are pretty straightforward to fight, and can be silenced to prevent many of their abilities.
@Darkstar.....
@Darkstar..... 26 күн бұрын
Agreed
@levimogford3202
@levimogford3202 25 күн бұрын
dude FUCK THAT DEMON WALL i almost beat it once but i know that if i had made a different choice earlier than i could... i was just too low level barely
@MelkorTolkien
@MelkorTolkien 25 күн бұрын
Quickening chain my guy. 😏 They are easy to find on the licenses board. Head for them first.
@threadbarephoenix9904
@threadbarephoenix9904 22 күн бұрын
based on that answer, you're not a real gamer. It's undead 🙄 throw a fuckin Phoenix Down at it
@AbbySTWrites
@AbbySTWrites 22 күн бұрын
Reflect>Target all Aero works very well, but legit is pretty hard!
@jello3456543
@jello3456543 29 күн бұрын
Wait, we were supposed to run from Ba'Gamnan? I thought it was a "you have to beat this tough boss to progress" fight. He was hard, but not unreasonably so as a straight boss fight.
@codyfranczak4493
@codyfranczak4493 29 күн бұрын
nah ur supposed to run but if u have protect and shell he's an absolute fucking joke there.
@TheJerbro69
@TheJerbro69 29 күн бұрын
@@codyfranczak4493 First time you face the Boba Fett of Ivalice,you are at best at level 9 or 10 if you don't grind with the wraiths. Even if you use Protect and/or Shell,he and his mens are at level 25-30 if I remember well (the original PS2 release I'm talking). You've another opportunity far later into the game if you make the Hunts as he will put a fake one to trick you into a trap and while he and his mens does level up a little bit,you are more powerful that they at that point. The end result is that Ba'Gamnan ends up "dying" like Boba Fett,by getting eaten by a monster on the sands.
@adesojikukoyi2699
@adesojikukoyi2699 29 күн бұрын
Same😂
@Tanooki88
@Tanooki88 29 күн бұрын
I always took them out, but only because i would farm a good amount on the bridge with all the skeletons to up my chain to max lol
@Michaeljack81sk
@Michaeljack81sk 29 күн бұрын
Same! I just kicked his ass without too much trouble, but then I always grind and farm everything way too much
@georgehouliaras7239
@georgehouliaras7239 29 күн бұрын
One does not simply beat a lv130 Feral Chaos with a lv1 Lightning.
@TheAwsomeDemyx
@TheAwsomeDemyx 29 күн бұрын
Not with that attitude
@cookieinhaler
@cookieinhaler 29 күн бұрын
It's incredibly hard it seems unbelievable, but it's possible.
@mitchells2003
@mitchells2003 29 күн бұрын
Of course not simply. There's nothing simple about it.
@comraderaoul
@comraderaoul 29 күн бұрын
I had a roommate who did it once after an all nighter--there is evil there that does not sleep.
@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley
@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley 29 күн бұрын
Her derision at everyone and everything that isn't her sister automatically makes her invincible 😂 Though I've heard it said that you can calm the valkyrie's wrath if you take her to a Louie Vutton store...
@DarkFrozenDepths
@DarkFrozenDepths 29 күн бұрын
Admit it, that Lightning vs Feral Chaos stunt was the first time you ever wanted to rip the Pom Pom off a Moogle.
@ICountFrom0
@ICountFrom0 29 күн бұрын
I shall not. I've wanted to do that LONG before this moment.
@godsplayingfield
@godsplayingfield 29 күн бұрын
i wanted to do that in FF9. DAMMIT ARTEMICION, CAUSE OF YOU I NEED TO DELIVER ALL THESE DAMN LETTERS!
@Ahrpigi
@Ahrpigi 28 күн бұрын
That feeling would reach new heights with FF7 Rebirth.
@hokutology1718
@hokutology1718 28 күн бұрын
That moogle is the save moogle from ff9, just wanting retribution.
@Kaos360
@Kaos360 28 күн бұрын
Maaaan they DROPPED THE BALL with Dissidia. All we wanted was Duodecim with NT's graphics.
@SerAvaros
@SerAvaros 27 күн бұрын
I’m still so upset at NT. I remember pre-ordering it and being filled with so much excitement. Woe unto me once the game had released…….
@AdiG1
@AdiG1 25 күн бұрын
I wanted NT to be good. Instead, we got a game where you had 3-on-3 fights, no actual story mode, and you had grind out points to unlock cutscenes. It was arguably worse than FF13
@SerAvaros
@SerAvaros 25 күн бұрын
@@AdiG1 dude I know! Gone were the personal one on one confrontations. None of the battles felt like there was any purpose behind them. The game felt like a grind just to get 5 seconds of a fmv sequence that you would have to purchase just to get any "story". And don’t get me started on the damn moogle. "Press square to do an hp attack, kupo!" NT had none of the soul left in dissidia. It’s a shame that they will never do another one and all we have left are the first two locked away on the psp.
@roshinn4068
@roshinn4068 20 күн бұрын
My brother in Christ I share your pain. NT sucked balls and is a tragedy we won't get a proper duodecim on console.
@jacobkastenhuber5854
@jacobkastenhuber5854 27 күн бұрын
I've literally never run from Bagamnan in 12. I kind of have a habit of overleveling.
@RookMeAmadeus
@RookMeAmadeus 16 күн бұрын
Beating FF3's "unwinnable" Bahamut battle is worse than pointless. It actually PUNISHES you, as he won't show up in his lair later on. That means you can't get his summon spell for free, and you have to make it to the hidden magic shop in Eureka to buy it there.
@SpopySpider
@SpopySpider 21 күн бұрын
I've never lost the Ba'gamnan encounter, not once, it took me searching a guide on the internet to learn most people struggled with them
@fruitfulconnoisseur
@fruitfulconnoisseur 20 күн бұрын
I remember getting stubborn and defeating the mechanical spider on final fantasy VIII
@Appolyon
@Appolyon 24 күн бұрын
Not Final Fantasy, but I immediately thought of Gades in his first encounter with the Player in Lufia 2. It took a lot of grinding to defeat him.
@allencrown
@allencrown 14 күн бұрын
Sick.
@fatherrussell5303
@fatherrussell5303 22 күн бұрын
Super sad to see the developers never gave special reward for doing the impossible on most of the boss fights :( weirdly I killed the robot not understanding I was supposed to run away.
@SeanUCF
@SeanUCF 11 күн бұрын
I actually think this happened with me too. I don't even remember the scene of Quistis with the machine gun, lol.
@sinmenon4347
@sinmenon4347 29 күн бұрын
I actually defeated the FF8 one and, when I was a kid trying out emulators for the first time I actually got into a stalemate against Bahamut in NES FF3. I healed enough and had enough potions to survive, but the damage output was never enough. I spent a really long time just wasting my resources until I realized I had to run so I just loaded a savestate
@crimsonmaelstrom573
@crimsonmaelstrom573 16 күн бұрын
I don’t usually beat a lv130 Feral Chaos with a lv1 Lightning. But when I do, I f**king celebrate
@Animebryan2
@Animebryan2 29 күн бұрын
One of the main reasons to beat the Spider Boss in FF8 is because he has a 25% chance to drop a Force Armlet, which is the only one you can get on disc 1 if you're trying to create everybody's ultimate weapon (except Irvine's) on the first disc.
@veghesther3204
@veghesther3204 29 күн бұрын
actually I NEVER used the Force Armlet even with that owned you still need at least 1 Energy Crystal for Rinoa's Ultimate besides when Always fighting Diablos AT LVS OVER 30 to Draw Flare/Holy off of it theirs only 2 CURRENT GFs that boost your MAGIC stat so that draw never fails. So in order to a 3rd PARTY member to NEVER fail to Draw Flare/Holy off of it you actually HAD to use the Force Armlet IT may drop since the 40% Magic effect WOULD be required to have all 3 party members drain Flare/Holy off of it while NOT having the Draw command FAIL to work against it.
@TheReaverOfDarkness
@TheReaverOfDarkness 17 күн бұрын
@@veghesther3204 I think you can get an energy crystal from Elvoret if you're high enough level. If you're trying to boost magic for drawing, you should be able to get Double from Elvoret which should allow you to junction high enough to be able to draw anything, or I feel like there was a way to get at least a small amount of Demi early on before Diablos, like with cards maybe. If you have a bit of Demi junctioned to magic, you can draw the rest from Diablos and your draws will get stronger as you fill up.
@gametender1
@gametender1 4 күн бұрын
@@TheReaverOfDarkness idk about before diablos because i think you need to learn junction time magic on him to do it
@TheReaverOfDarkness
@TheReaverOfDarkness 4 күн бұрын
@@gametender1 You just need Mag-J in order to junction any spells to the magic attribute.
@freman007
@freman007 22 күн бұрын
ID from Xenogears. You need very particular setup, but you can beat him.
@SeanUCF
@SeanUCF 11 күн бұрын
Does anything different happen if you beat him or do you get a reward?
@stripesmaccoonis9395
@stripesmaccoonis9395 23 күн бұрын
I remember Deadeye. My first time playing, I did nothing but side quests. Wanted to explore the world and got stupidly overleveled. Thinking I was 71 by Chapter 3? So by the time this fight came around, I beat him senseless. Didn't know until this video he was supposed to be unwinnable LOL
@danield6740
@danield6740 29 күн бұрын
Thank you so much for all of your awesome videos!!!!
@garbagebandit5934
@garbagebandit5934 29 күн бұрын
Notice how Beatrix was mentioned, but not on the list. She's just that good.
@veghesther3204
@veghesther3204 29 күн бұрын
she can't die anyways I could use the always do 9999 damage PS4 remaster cheat on and she still can't die and still will reduce the party to 1 HP left while you still won't get EXP from those battles.
@garbagebandit5934
@garbagebandit5934 29 күн бұрын
@@veghesther3204 That's Beatrix for you. Not even cheats could put her down.
@veghesther3204
@veghesther3204 29 күн бұрын
Correct and that applies to EVERY fight where the always do 9999 damage cheat still can't KILL her for exp including the DISC 2 fights against her.
@rodtack8420
@rodtack8420 22 күн бұрын
@@veghesther3204 shes just that good. She could probably solo the final boss.
@caporegime60
@caporegime60 14 күн бұрын
well i mean, the video is about bosses you can actually kill so...
@slobiden.2593
@slobiden.2593 26 күн бұрын
8:19 that spider can be farmed for 50AP. I forget how much damage needs to be done. But it’s not awarded for specifically killing it. I got a lot of the 50ap/100ap abilities learnt this way. FF8 is the most broken if you know what you’re doing.
@chrishubbard64
@chrishubbard64 24 күн бұрын
Its such a totally different style of game when it comes to "how to get strong". I feel like it overcomplicated things which introduced all these ways to break it. But boy was I salty as a long time ff gamer to learn that grinding to 100 is NOT, in fact, the best way to get uber powerful. Every one of these games back then was built with areas you could go to quickly farm a huge level boost or max them out. The dino head shaped forest in 6, that plain above the grotto in 9, there were tons of them, some more secret than others. 8 had iirc, the island closest to heaven/hell with one being high exp the other being high ap. Its been so long since I played I may be wrong.
@jessl1934
@jessl1934 15 күн бұрын
​@@chrishubbard64You are correct. I think that FF8 intentionally focused on GFs and magic to distribute the party "levelling" so that the game was paced differently and that it mitigated power levelling. This was done at the risk of obfuscating the process of strengthening your characters though, I guess. Also FF8 has vysage farming just outside of Timber in Lallapalooza Canyon, in a corner of the valley in the mountain range, that comes up much earlier in the game so it's more like FF9's plateau at the top of Gizamaluke's Grotto where you can farm grand dragons and garudas, although vysage farming for levelling isn't as popular or as well known.
@Patrick_The_Pure
@Patrick_The_Pure 12 күн бұрын
You need to incap him, then remove his hp while downed so he instant repairs without a timer, then incap him once more and run away. That rewards you with 50 AP and you can fight him again. If you kill him, it gives you one of 4 random items, from which only 1 is really useful as i believe it's the only way to get Rinoa's ultimate weapon in disc 1.
@RuneKatashima
@RuneKatashima 7 күн бұрын
@@Patrick_The_Pure What do you mean remove his hp while downed? Actually, the whole process. Can you be more specific?
@Patrick_The_Pure
@Patrick_The_Pure 6 күн бұрын
@@RuneKatashima He has about 2k health, when you remove that he gets incapacitated and regenerates back after a x amount of time. However, if you remove that 2k health while he regenerates he instantly gets up again. With tornado on Str, str +20% and 40%, and Thundaga on Elemental Attack that is one hit.
@SorcererLance
@SorcererLance 27 күн бұрын
...Beating Feral Chaos at the very start of Dissidia Duodecim should just take you straight to the credits AT THE VERY LEAST :P
@Scorp721
@Scorp721 28 күн бұрын
That lvl 1 Lightning vs Feral Chaos feels impossible without the enhanced dodge skills that give your dodges the extra distance. All the times I've tried it, I always get caught at the end of the dodge because FC's attacks take up so much of the arena. I can do a lot of the single character challenges against him at the end of the last story where you're supposed to fight him with up to five characters, but that lvl 1 fight is something else.
@bowie8782
@bowie8782 27 күн бұрын
I did the Episode Duscae one. I thought that summoning Ramuh was what was supposed to happen 😂. There is a Video of it on my channel.
@cyber8272
@cyber8272 27 күн бұрын
I just learned the same thing and now I wonder what we were supposed to do In a normal run. The Ramuh way felt like the obvious way to do it
@xaby996
@xaby996 24 күн бұрын
You're not wrong. This video is cringe
@burnum
@burnum 20 күн бұрын
The spider one isn't difficult on it's own, the difficulty is with the timer.
@jaycarrillojc
@jaycarrillojc 28 күн бұрын
Man I was over leveled af for Ba'Gamnen 🤣🤣 I had manual saves and grinder for hours after getting whooped the first time
@platypusfox73
@platypusfox73 28 күн бұрын
The one from FF8 I actually learned from an old strategy guide showing the bonuses you got from beating it if you stood your ground.
@Slop_Dogg
@Slop_Dogg 24 күн бұрын
Enjoyed this video, whenever I encountered one, I always wondered if an “unwinnable” fight was truly unwinnable.
@twelfthknight
@twelfthknight 29 күн бұрын
A bit sad about Feral Chaos, as I was always kind of curious as to what would happen if you won there. I mean, unlike other seemingly impossible bosses on the list Dissidia set that encounter up to deliberately troll the player, so of course some will want to Dark Souls their way through it. They could have at least given those player some kind of scripted reaction.
@qactustick
@qactustick 29 күн бұрын
One common quirk of Final Fantasy games is that the developers don't put anything in to acknowledge beating battles that are intended to be unwinnable. They probably feel like it'd disrupt the flow of the story or something, idk.
@AlcyonEldara
@AlcyonEldara 27 күн бұрын
@@qactustick same issue in Valkyrie Profile, you still get a game over after beating Freya.
@heavymetalweatherman7774
@heavymetalweatherman7774 28 күн бұрын
Midgar Zolom in FF7 is very satisfying to beat if you can level the materia enough to protect you from Beta. Elemental materia paired with Fire gives decent protection if HP is high enough and there is a way to predict when Beta is coming. If you can survive the fight and get Beta as an enemy skill, the entire rest of Disc 1 becomes a cake walk, since Beta is such a powerful magic attack.
@veghesther3204
@veghesther3204 28 күн бұрын
Except in FF7 it can't truely die it still is reappears on screen after you KILL it.
@TrueKingOmega
@TrueKingOmega 25 күн бұрын
@@veghesther3204 Half-true. If you beat it, it will not appear until you change locations (e.g. Mithril Mines)
@TrueKingOmega
@TrueKingOmega 25 күн бұрын
Ah, those were the good old days. I remember when I fought constantly outside the marsh where it resided until I learned Aerith's invincibility LB (I forget the name), and everyone hit about level 20, so their stats allowed them to survive the Zolom's normal attacks
@veghesther3204
@veghesther3204 25 күн бұрын
Exactly FF7 really only has 2 enemies that can't really DIE Midgar Zolem and Any chocobo's you hit when NOT summoning Odin.
@DillonMeyer
@DillonMeyer 28 күн бұрын
The ff8 one is the one I distinctly remember doing as a kid. It felt like too much of a failure of a mission if you didn't beat it.
@Xynth22
@Xynth22 29 күн бұрын
Not sure why the FF8 spider mech boss is even on here. That one was always an optional kill, which is why it gave good rewards for doing so. It's basically the reward for taking the time to get all available magic before that point to 100.
@DarkFrozenDepths
@DarkFrozenDepths 29 күн бұрын
And tbh, a person with enough time on their hands could straight up steamroll the game anyway by magic grinding and even getting an ultimate weapon or two on disk 1
@xaby996
@xaby996 29 күн бұрын
Cards? Lol. ​@@DarkFrozenDepths
@xravenx24fe
@xravenx24fe 28 күн бұрын
​@@xaby996 you have to grind quite a bit of points just to unlock card mod but yeah, cards are the fastest way
@shinigamimiroku3723
@shinigamimiroku3723 28 күн бұрын
Me: *grinds Seifer to level 100 to get access to -aga spells without relying on Card Mod*
@veghesther3204
@veghesther3204 28 күн бұрын
I won't even do THAT I'll lv up Squal/Quistis BOTH to lvs over 30 BEFORE fighting Ifrite to do that AND do the same for Zell/Selphie as well.
@wally4golly
@wally4golly 29 күн бұрын
In my encounter with Bagaman I got the gold armor drop from a rare monster in the mine and way late into the encounter realized that they were doing 0 damage to Vaan. 😆
@_repentence
@_repentence 11 күн бұрын
The fact that the spider robot had elaborate death animation meant the dev knew someone will try to beat it instead of running
@sinyoucanterase
@sinyoucanterase 29 күн бұрын
Vanish / doom was my favorite exploit lmao. I was so mad when they fixed it.
@davidmoak1219
@davidmoak1219 21 күн бұрын
Vanish and leap with gau was my favorite exploit and then having relm sketch him.
@s-wo8781
@s-wo8781 29 күн бұрын
I never beat the Black Widow. On my last playthrough I tried but I couldn't remember how. I figured I just needed to do enough damage while it was repairing but this video cleared it up. I'll do it next time.
@michaelbarnard8529
@michaelbarnard8529 28 күн бұрын
In FF6, I discovered the vanish “bug” when Moog was dancing for Intangir, and the used it to kill Humbaba four times. I was kind of miffed when the later versions nerfed it.
@GunslingerBahamut
@GunslingerBahamut 25 күн бұрын
Watching Quistis gun the black widow down was one reason I never bothered to try beating it before the beach, extra rewards or not... I loved seeing her go full 'savage' an unloading on the robot chasing her students XD
@blackdragoncyrus
@blackdragoncyrus 29 күн бұрын
I often don't count scripted losses when it comes to these - You know, the ones where a cutscene plays after a certain turn count, like the Beatrix fights.
@kennethjose7159
@kennethjose7159 24 күн бұрын
I consider the Luca Goers as a boss fight in that initial Luca visit
@davidmoak1219
@davidmoak1219 21 күн бұрын
Agreed. Every save I reload until I win that stacked against you game. Sure you can just score a goal and then run the ball behind enemy goalie to cheese the time but I like to actually play that one out. My 2 friends had me beat that first encounter for their saves because they hated Blitzball for some reason. There IS some reward for winning, some kind of str sphere or something it isn't much. Sigh. They both also had me do the chocobo run for tidus ultimate, and max lightning dodges. I've dodged 300 lightning strike at least 12 full counts. :(
@BaldingSasquatch
@BaldingSasquatch 29 күн бұрын
I like how the black widow in ff8 looks more like a tarantula or crab
@Bardic_Knowledge
@Bardic_Knowledge 29 күн бұрын
So, I know it's unrelated to the video itself, but thinking of bugs in VI, my best friend was playing VI on his computer and had both Reflect and Vanish on his party thanks to summons. Then when his opponent tried to cast a spell, the immunity afforded by Reflect and the guaranteed hit from Vanish conflicted and his game crashed so hard he couldn't get it to start up again for a couple days. He never tried doing it on a cartridge of the game for fear it would somehow brick the cartridge.
@fordesponja
@fordesponja 14 күн бұрын
I remember killing the spider robot on my third run of FFVIII back in the day. I had a pretty good printed guide that hinted it could be destroyed and it needed quite a bit of preparation before the exam to stack enough magic through card conversion..
@PMbarbieri
@PMbarbieri 29 күн бұрын
Deadeye is unfit for this list, though, as finding Ramuh to defeat him is the whole point of the demo. What about the catoblepas they added with the update for the demo? I'm sure there's a way to beat it, but I never found out how: Ramuh can't defeat it in one blow, unlike every other enemy, and sometimes the summon even glitched and never showed up when I fought it.
@meltingkeith7046
@meltingkeith7046 29 күн бұрын
Honestly, would have been fine if they spoke about how one could beat Deadeye WITHOUT Ramuh (even better if it's possible to beat him on the first pass?)
@PMbarbieri
@PMbarbieri 29 күн бұрын
@@meltingkeith7046 Yeah, I don’t know if it’s possible: the demo looked pretty scripted as far as I remember, but if it was possible, then it would have made more sense to be here.
@scottgray4623
@scottgray4623 27 күн бұрын
I'm not sure how much was luck or blessings from the RNG gods, but I managed to beat Dark Knight Cecil with Paladin Cecil in the one-on-one battle in the crystal room on Mt. Ordeals in FFIV - once, but never again. 😢
@MarceloOmegaAGDM
@MarceloOmegaAGDM 13 күн бұрын
I actually thought you had to since i didnt understand english at the time and didnt know what sheath your sword meant, so i bought 99 high potions in mysidia i think and just kept going.
@scottgray4623
@scottgray4623 13 күн бұрын
@@MarceloOmegaAGDM Awesome! It's been so long that I can't remember completely, but I thought that fight gives a rather high amount of experience if you are able to actually beat him like that.
@faisal1979m
@faisal1979m 29 күн бұрын
In FF8 I farmed the spider robot’s ass for AP points until he coughed an adamantine then killed it. Made Lion Heart on First disk thanks to crab legs and Card mood
@Ultima013
@Ultima013 28 күн бұрын
Saaaaaaay what? How did you do that?
@faisal1979m
@faisal1979m 28 күн бұрын
@@Ultima013 Grinding it’s ass until he broke down and walked away without Quisits’s Gatling gun scene
@TrueKingOmega
@TrueKingOmega 25 күн бұрын
About the FF8 one, it was well-known you could beat that machine with Quetzalcoatl, and was not considered unbeatable. In fact, you get a bonus for beating it, and the timer imposed on you was no longer a factor. The very first time you fight him is "unwinnable" though because you can't destroy it fully then
@Victini415
@Victini415 14 күн бұрын
I always knew the FF6 glitch as the Vanish/X-Zone. Didn't know _all_ instant-loss spells worked. Also, the way you pronounce Behemoth makes me want to Van-Ban my brain
@RallasterAsuremen
@RallasterAsuremen 28 күн бұрын
Correction on the FF8, the Black Widow gives 50 AP EACH time its is ''defeated'. If dealt enough damage to to 'kill' it, it automatically recovers and need to dropped back to 20% in order to flee..but as a reward you gained 50 AP each time, making this is the best way to grind for High-AP abilties in the early gamer.
@feybrandt40533
@feybrandt40533 24 күн бұрын
400 AP was the highest i could farm off with it, good boost
@RallasterAsuremen
@RallasterAsuremen 23 күн бұрын
@@feybrandt40533 My personal best was 500 but it was so close (less than 2 seconds) that it ended being too nerve wracking to worth it again. But YES! Great way to catapult your GF's to greatness in one chase scene!
@feybrandt40533
@feybrandt40533 23 күн бұрын
@@RallasterAsuremen a win's a win! 500 is mighty respect
@hardline2a
@hardline2a 9 күн бұрын
In star fox 64, there is a boss that is supposed to take sloppy, but if you’re fast enough you can actually manage to bread the boss and then go do the mission to save slippy…with slippy
@smittywerbenjagermanjensen3215
@smittywerbenjagermanjensen3215 20 күн бұрын
I was wondering why these were all final fantasy games but then i noticed the channel name. This is a pretty good video. It makes me wanna play some ff games.
@axelglory
@axelglory 22 күн бұрын
ill never forget playing ace combat 5 the mission were you are suposed to run from this one squadron that were the main bad guys, your squadron runs and they even make it so that you can hit anyone with misels. but if you evade atacks constantly and get close enough eith guns you can actually defeat them and they did add a cut scene if you did, presious child memory
@RaidenKaiser
@RaidenKaiser 27 күн бұрын
Wait you weren't supposed to be over level 20 for the mines in ff12?
@Edowin-jz2sj
@Edowin-jz2sj 27 күн бұрын
FFXII - I think the first Demon Wall was similar to the robot spider in FFVIII in that you're not really meant to beat it, but the game is scripted so that you can and you actually get a reward of the Demon Sword if you do.
@MelkorTolkien
@MelkorTolkien 25 күн бұрын
XII's optional bosses are easily handled with a good enough quickening chain.
@StarlightMirror
@StarlightMirror 29 күн бұрын
A boss not in the video is Kain from Final Fantasy 4, when you first arrive in Fabul and Baron attacks to steal the Wind Crystal. I think if your insane enough to have leveled high enough the fight with Kain there is winnable, though nothing changes if you win and everything acts as if you lost.
@FabledTriple
@FabledTriple 29 күн бұрын
Bayamoth huh?
@rickygamerpro
@rickygamerpro 29 күн бұрын
I love this channel❤
@christianstachl
@christianstachl 11 күн бұрын
Mine (and a friends) biggest accomplishment 25+ years ago was to beat Emerald Weapon in FF7 without knowing there was a materia that stops the timer. We tried and planned and tried and planned and tried and planned...one time we defeated it, we yelled out in joy, only to find out seconds later that during the death sequence the timer ran out and it didn't count... But at some point we did it and it felt so good ❤😊
@GTdba
@GTdba 29 күн бұрын
Not me obtaining 3 Seitengrats (Once you manage to get the first one via RNG manipulation you learn it is fairly easy, just takes some time) and farming Dustia for the sole mission of Wiping the Floor with the Bangaa Squad. Always hated those guys. I adore Migelo tho, he is a good Bangaa.
@DamnDaimen
@DamnDaimen 13 күн бұрын
Xenogears had two winnable "unwinnable" fights. Hammer, and Graff. Hammer gets you the trading card, which boosts drop rates to 100% and flips rare and common items, so you get rare items almost all the time, with common items showing up rarely. Graff gets you the best character armor in the game.
@devgumdrop3700
@devgumdrop3700 15 күн бұрын
In FFIX its possible to farm grand dragons at the exit of Gizamaluke's Grotto just after obtaining Quina, and level well beyond the usual for disc1. I remember getting to around level 65 before I had to stop due to running out of phoenix downs/tents. The trick is to let Freya win the Festival of the Hunt to get a coral ring, which gives one of your party members immunity to thundaga (which would otherwise wipe your entire party). Grand Dragon's other attacks are completely manageable, and it's possible to deal massive damage to it too.
@kramersigil7436
@kramersigil7436 18 күн бұрын
Omega Weapon in Ultimecias Castle in FF8 was a tough beast to say the least (i must admit i had to buy a magazine back in the day to prepare for the whole thing).
@nickstockwell9148
@nickstockwell9148 26 күн бұрын
Wait I thought the behemoth was supposed to be killed with Ramuh in 15… I did that my first time playing it.
@xaby996
@xaby996 24 күн бұрын
It is. This guy is not very bright
@Hc2p3n4t4rp
@Hc2p3n4t4rp 29 күн бұрын
I digress from the FFXV Duscae entry, after all, that was the expected result, if you could defeat Behemot during the furst encounter then I agree
@GrieverSSBU
@GrieverSSBU 29 күн бұрын
There is absolutely nothing better than beating Feral Chaos with a level 1 character. My favorite was using a Level 1 Terra. My fastest win was like 45 seconds.
@seripah8852
@seripah8852 20 күн бұрын
"With enough knowledge and determination it is possible to triumph against these insurmountable odds" Hehe, Guardian Force go brrrrrrrrrr. Anyone else remember being able to get the Lionheart on disk one by just no lifing the card game?
@SeanUCF
@SeanUCF 11 күн бұрын
Hahaha, I didn't know you could do that.
@seripah8852
@seripah8852 2 күн бұрын
@@SeanUCF Yeah, I loved FF8 despite all its flaws. I do hope the remake it or add on to it in the future.
@midsummerKNlGHT
@midsummerKNlGHT 29 күн бұрын
I'm so triggered that Dissidia doesn't acknowledge the victory at all wtf
@unhingedbasket1911
@unhingedbasket1911 15 күн бұрын
Loewe last fight in Trails in the Sky Second Chapter is completely derailed
@burge117
@burge117 16 күн бұрын
I leave the Black Widow alive, I hate missing out on Quistis on the gun.
@InternetGravedigger
@InternetGravedigger 24 күн бұрын
Ah, the old 'vanish-doom' combo, it's been so long I'd forgotten about that. Here's a thought... can Terra use reflect to bounce the vanish off of herself onto Humbaba? Didn't realize this was going to be all about Final Fantasy games (didn't see the channel name at first) but since Chrono Trigger was was part of the Final Fantasy Chronicles compilation an argument could be made that it could technically be included for videos like this. In Chrono Trigger once you get New Game + mode you can actually beat the final boss at SEVERAL different points of the game where the fight was supposed to be unwinnable.
@KoolKatBeatz
@KoolKatBeatz 19 күн бұрын
Game: 7 Unwinnable Boss Fights 16 yo Me: Pulls out Gameshark Pro
@revfitrasuichi5503
@revfitrasuichi5503 8 күн бұрын
When I was a kid I challenge myself to defeat werewolf in the plains before even go to bhujerba. So at the bagaman boss fight I don't even know we need to run as I OHKO them one by one. The next monday, at school my friends talk about unbeatable boss and I was confused. Later I figured out that those "random lizard" I OHKO is the one they talked about 😂
@joeb6750
@joeb6750 25 күн бұрын
I actually didnt realize there was a small bridge area in FF2 so i power leveled my party like crazy using the self infliction method (FF2 levels individual stats once you reach a threshold of successful actions of certain types) Was so overpowered that i was able to breeze the guards in the first town that are meant to sweep the party early game but be moderately difficult when faced later
@Vaga-Bard
@Vaga-Bard 20 күн бұрын
Ftr: I can 1 man feral chaos with Firion at any level.
@immortalfrieza
@immortalfrieza 24 күн бұрын
These are the kinds of fights I love having in RPGs. Which is ironic, since the genuinely unwinnable boss fights are the ones I hate the most. Fights that seem unwinnable but you can actually succeed at I've always found extremely fun, since unless you've been really really super overleveling they're always a massive challenge.
@Alpenjodler1
@Alpenjodler1 25 күн бұрын
I have fought unwinnable scripted boss fights only to find out it wasn't actually unwinnable.
@jaylowry4082
@jaylowry4082 23 күн бұрын
I remember fighting Feral Chaos at the start of Duodecim then encountering him again in the arena and unlocking him. Then playing as him to figure out his moves so the next time I did encounter him he'd be my dance partner with the Warrior of Light.
@CloudianMH
@CloudianMH 29 күн бұрын
God I LOVED dissidia. The first one is just the best. Also the black widow fight really isnt that bad tbh. I used to over prepare alot to kill it. Now I just give ifrit to zell and thats it. Str junction, no training. No nothing.
@Cory_
@Cory_ 22 күн бұрын
I always think of your first encounter with Leon in Kingdom Hearts 1.
@Kirusion
@Kirusion 25 күн бұрын
Don't forget the robot in FF8 if it is defeated the beach scene later changes and some dialog changes also as I believe a young girls mother doesn't die
@randalthor2859
@randalthor2859 19 күн бұрын
Beating the Robospider with Quetzacotl is relatively trivial, and can be done with minimal planning.
@TheLunarLegend
@TheLunarLegend 27 күн бұрын
I actually did beat Ba'Gamnan in my first playthrough of 12. I had the quickenings for a couple characters and just kept spamming them, got the big explosion at the end, and everything died lol.
@smokecrackhailsatan
@smokecrackhailsatan 6 күн бұрын
Imagine not even touching on emerald or ruby weapon, only touching on the post FF7 slop.
@Mrosen7542
@Mrosen7542 17 күн бұрын
Managed to beat Doku in Ninja Gaiden Sigma on the PS3. Story progresses as normal but you unlock the next difficulty setting.
@SpectreOfChar
@SpectreOfChar 24 күн бұрын
Not FF but Balero and Sunder from breath of fire three were annoying during first fight, spent months leveling up in starting zone to beat them and best i could do is a draw(they have infinite hp) tell PS/disc burned out and crashed auto attacking after making one hit the other, and making other run out of mana but still keep casting
@vespi57
@vespi57 23 күн бұрын
About Ba'Gamnan fight. It is also possible to defeat him quickly with quickenings, if they have been unlocked. By chaining enough of them, Ba'Gamnan will fall with a single quickening chain.
@SylvesterAshcroft88
@SylvesterAshcroft88 27 күн бұрын
There was a main story boss in the last story, which bears recognition as it was made a spiritual sequel to final fantasy. The phoenix could only be beaten by using silence to nullify it's magic, so it feels impossible to start with, but eventually it can be beaten, but it's a very slow and difficult boss fight.
@icezinnn
@icezinnn 14 күн бұрын
I defeated X-ATM092 with a full level 100 party, which means I loved grinding and had way too much free time as a kid
@drjjloveman
@drjjloveman 27 күн бұрын
Star ocean second story has a fight towards the beginning against your rival/enemy in a fighting tournament. He absolutely obliterates you at the appropriate level for that part of the game. But if you grind and grind and grind the local area for a few hours worth if levels you can actually defeat him. It's pretty awesome when games actually let you do that kind of stuff.
@TrueKingOmega
@TrueKingOmega 25 күн бұрын
Wow, I thought it was absolute that you lose that fight. When I played that part before, I got one-shotted so quick
@veghesther3204
@veghesther3204 25 күн бұрын
NOT really even on earth mode AT LV 100 for Claude I still had HIM do zero damage to Dias the R version has a NG+ run where its possible that even Claude at Max lv 255 on Earth mode STILL won't do ANY damage to Dias their AT all.
@KnownAsKenji
@KnownAsKenji 25 күн бұрын
He scales to your level so grinding doesn't really 'work' though you will probably still want to do some of that. The best method is to activate Talents on Claude for hundreds of free Skill points, then you can unlock certain Battle Skills (I forget which) to help give you a tiny chance of actually hitting him, then spam Head Splitter during the battle and hope to get a hit in to defeat him. His actual HP is low, he just blocks basically everything. It is awesome that you can do it, but the 'reward' is a short cutscene where the two talk a little smack and the battle restarts. I do wish there ended up being some way to 'beat' him, I know it's lore-accurate that Dias is the superior swordsman but the actual tournament win is basically never mentioned after that event, especially when (spoilers removed) starts going down. They could've just given it to ya.
@veghesther3204
@veghesther3204 24 күн бұрын
At lv 100 I still had Head Splitter do 0 damage on earth mode While Dias can still hit HIM for like 3000+ damage PER hiit and still kill Claude in only 3 hits the R version has a NG+ mode too bad even AT lv 255 Claude will still likely hit Dias for no damage MOST of the time. In 2nd Story R/2nd Evolution version theirs a Claude VS Dias PA in Fun City Rena game only that's basically a WINNABLE rematch of the arena battle Dias for that PA end game you can Bloody armor Claude so that he will never die but like the must LOSE Dias battle you can't actually control Claude for the Fun City Rena game PA its a AI only fight one where at lv 255 on Earth mode Dias can still HIT him for 9999 damage WITHOUT a bloody armor/helm to make the damage be zero.
@chazclark86
@chazclark86 27 күн бұрын
You gotta do a playthrough of each game where you mess these guys up!
@tylerdarnell9032
@tylerdarnell9032 23 күн бұрын
You actually get punished for beating the black widow in the dollet mission. it lowers your “judgement” score on the report card you get after the mission, because you didn’t prioritize the evacuation.
@DolFunDolhpinVtuber
@DolFunDolhpinVtuber 29 күн бұрын
I didn't know about the wall trick. I used quickenings to win that fight, I grinded enough to defeat those pesky lizards.
@Xiaolruc
@Xiaolruc 29 күн бұрын
@Final Fantasy Union Wait, are you serious about Duodecim putting you at the last Gate if you beat the Punishment Feral Chaos?
@SquallyBoy2k6
@SquallyBoy2k6 24 күн бұрын
I love how you say Behemoth the way I used to xD but as people have pointed out, its beh-he-muth xD love your channel though :D
@caporegime60
@caporegime60 14 күн бұрын
it depends on your dialect. and the fact that people get butthurt about how its pronounced is ridiculous. allow me to introduce to you orichalcum
7 Superbosses That Punished Your Pitiful Attempts At Strategy
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