Anyone out there have a Goal Zero Yeti 1500X? Can you charge from solar and A/C at the same time?
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@SasquatchBunyan3 жыл бұрын
No, solar and AC, and various other mixes of inputs will NOT work to sum the inputs. The controller picks one. The 1500X manual explains that, and explains how the controller picks which one it will use. You’re also doing other things that are explained in the manuals of those products. It seriously is an excellent resource. When you plug in from the top, it switches to using that. You need to be a heck of a LOT more patient trying things-in particular, changing inputs. It takes up to several minutes for the controller to adjust and adapt to input changes. You mentioned that you “found out” some things. Most of those are explained in the manual.
@MTBIKEXC3 жыл бұрын
I generally don't read manuals but ... have now. You are correct although it says it should chose the higher of the inputs when using more than one and it choses the lower (solar) over AC for some reason. Anyway, I came from a Goal Zero 1250 which took both inputs no problem so it's a bit surprising the 1500X can't do that. So, the things I "found out" like it not working below 32 are in the manual but are a big difference from the 1250 which worked fine in temps below 32. Hopefully this video will be helpful to people who watch videos and don't read manuals like me. :-) Thanks.
@gaillewis54723 жыл бұрын
I read the manual before using my 1500x. Used an AC charge flawlessly. Charged computer 4 times, ran a vacuum cleaner for 5 minutes and a reciprocating saw for about 20 minutes. Still had 67% power left. Large panels are needed to charge via solar.
@LibraKing31213 жыл бұрын
"I generally don't read the manual" There's your problem! Operator error! wow.
@cjay_0p4463 жыл бұрын
@@gaillewis5472 after 2 months is the generator worth buying
@jgg2042 жыл бұрын
@@MTBIKEXC the Goal Zero MPPT Module (the one that is $100) allows you to take multiple inputs in an additive fashion, like the old PWM method. Just a FYI
@casemcdonald21523 жыл бұрын
*fries charge controller* "I wonder why it doesn't work?" *charge controller waits for him to give up, and resets* "I'm going to return it."
@Utah_Mike3 жыл бұрын
After much researching - all charging must be combined and enter thru the Anderson port. No longer can have multiple entry ports at the same time. 600 watts incoming max for the 3000x. Thanks for all your post about this, helped me start to understand.
@Utah_Mike2 жыл бұрын
@TROYs CHANNEL try disconnecting a few of the panels, also how full is the battery? Try to put a load (plug in something)
@jgg2042 жыл бұрын
the Goal Zero MPPT Module (the one that is $100) allows you to take multiple inputs in an additive fashion, like the old PWM method. Just a FYI
@croberto9096 Жыл бұрын
Glad I found your video. I had similar issues with the 1500x after upgrading from a 1000. The AC charging port on the front did not respond after a couple of attempts and waiting for several minutes (no solar connected during this test). After the 3rd try it started working… ok, I can live with that. My biggest issue is from this test: connected a Dometic CX35 cooler and after 24 hrs with the cooler being OFF, the 1500x dropped 3%. Same test with the 1000 resulted in 0% loss… that I cannot live with. The 1500x shows an output of 0.1amps while the 1000 shows 0, both cases with the Dometic OFF. Will contact GoalZero for answers but it is pointing to a return item and reviving the 1000.
@blakehowland74682 жыл бұрын
I just got 1500x and straight swapped it with my 1000 lithium, you have to use the 1000 lithium's 115v charger however, as stated in literature, and I also had the mppt controller on the 1000 and moved it over as well and it worked just as it did before(no buzzing as I read somewhere on older mppt's). Good to see these struggles online, and others who've replied similar to myself now the same solution works. Sure I only get the 60w 115v input when on shore power but it does sum with the solar input when you have both feeds. Hope that helps. I got what I wanted, same size package but an extra 45 amp hours. With the 360w of the 3 panels on my trailer I can run domestic cfx-75 on freezer both sides in summer temps and catch up every day no prob, the freezer side of the domestic is the big power draw. In winter ice fishing both sides on fridge it's nothing. All the other electrical demands and things we charge, lights etc. are also nothing. Will see how the new Webasto 2kw heater will be for draw but no worries based on specs now as that will primarily run winter when the fridge doesn't work very hard anyway.
@maopermacultor55643 жыл бұрын
You're weird, not the system ... you really need to know how the internal system works.
@aph63623 жыл бұрын
I had a GZ 1400 in my camper van and was able to stack multiple charge sources without an issue. This was great since I could get power from solar, the 12v outlet on the van while driving, and/or shore power at the campground. Never an issue. Now with my new 1500x I have the same complaint as you. Talking with GZ the work around they recommended is adding the GZ MPPT solar optimization controller so can charge from 2 sources independently. I had one left over from when had the 1400 so installed it. I can now charge from multiple sources at the same time again and the watts are additive. HOWEVER whenever charging using the add on MPPT I get an annoying buzzing sound coming from the MPPT. Sooooo - calling GZ again.
@MTBIKEXC3 жыл бұрын
Geeezzzz... I had one of those MPPT solar optimization controllers for my 1000 which didn't have a regulated 12V output and wouldn't run my fridge below 50% battery charge but I returned BOTH the 1000 and the MPPT module. Wish I had kept it. Such a step backwards from my 1250. Wonder what the hell happened to the company to blow it with the 1000/1400's and now the X-series.
@aph63623 жыл бұрын
Just got off the phone with GZ. Said that the buzzing issue is a firmware comparability issue because my MPPT controller has an older version firmware. They are exchanging my old MPPT controller with a new one that has the updated firmware. Should have it next week. If it works exactly the same way it is currently working without the buzzing then I will be very happy. Will update once I have everything in place and tested.
@MTBIKEXC3 жыл бұрын
@@aph6362 Looking forward to hearing your results when you get the new one. Thanks!
@aph63623 жыл бұрын
@@MTBIKEXC installed the new MPPT controller on my 1500X. No more buzzing! Ive played around with the setup and seem to have it working pretty well. I use the built in MPPT controller for the solar connection and use the new controller for charging when the van is running. The input watts is additive when driving during daylight hours. So bottom line is it seems to work. Still disappointing that Have to jump through hoops to get the 1500X to work properly as it should work this way out of the box. I still need to play with it/use it more to get a full sense of how it’s working. If any significant changes I’ll post here.
@uhjyuff20953 жыл бұрын
@@aph6362 Exactly, I charge my GZ 3000 with 12v solar panels on the PWM controller and 24v solar panels (44 VOC) on the mppt controller. 7 months with 800 watts of solar input running 24/7.
@jackarouu82843 жыл бұрын
I suspect there is switching logic that prevents overcharging for protection.
@MrToastedtoad2 жыл бұрын
I give you marks for having the courage to share openly.
@fresnel82793 жыл бұрын
The port your pluging the Anderson in is for input for charging not for running things. Plug it into the 12v area and it should work
@gerald4nomads3 жыл бұрын
I have two goal zero 1000 and 1400 and switch to my Arkpak 730 and bought an Ecoflow because of the problems with the goal zero. Ecoflow and bluetti are now top dogs in rechargeable battery packs.
@fikalaredo57623 жыл бұрын
Goal zero is terrible I regret buying my 1400. Overpriced and every issue with these batteries just causes you to purchase more of their little accessories. I wanted a simple plug and play but would have been better off learning and building my own system for all the money and trouble I went through with the company
@safranpollen3 жыл бұрын
It was so good , that I ve seen your videos. We are van club at germany and thought we buy 82 goal zero 1500x together for a good price. But now we will not do this of course. Even the Tussy from Goal Zero hasn`t had any idea of whats happening and no help , like a direct technical supporter on phone. I will inform over our network at europe immediately around 1100 Van Fans . It is impossible that the 1500x can not charge parallel and has such tremendous problems like ya ve shown. Thanks so fine :-)
@jgg2042 жыл бұрын
the Goal Zero MPPT Module (the one that is $100) allows you to take multiple inputs in an additive fashion, like the old PWM method. Just a FYI
@MegaBpop3 жыл бұрын
Thank You for posting I was very close to buying one of these. I am not anymore. I agree with another comment, for what it costs it should work like a gem.
@jimmybaggs53423 жыл бұрын
For what that thing costs it should work flawlessly every time.
@MTBIKEXC3 жыл бұрын
tell me about it. :-)
@Shloopy4202 жыл бұрын
Totally agree. Having the same problems as Brad. This sucks and has been going on for 6 months.
@TrailBoundco2 жыл бұрын
good to hear you can can return to REI I might have to try that my 1500x has been a little wanky compared to my old 500
@Kimhjortsbjerg Жыл бұрын
Read the manual ! It says that you cannot charge both by solar and wall electricity at the same time !
@larsjrgensen59756 ай бұрын
17W solar is much to weak, the unit is balancing to charge or not charge. Mobile phone chargers can charge with more then 17W and the solar would take a couple of days to charge the goalzero.
@hansmuster48343 жыл бұрын
I have a 1500X too. The first one had problems with both USB Ports. After exchange the USB where working and the solar main connector was working well. But if I used the main and the small (circle connector) together I had first maximum watts (260W) of charging and after a vew seconds around half watts (105W) and then zero. After some seconds maximum Watts again and then half and so on. Both ports had exact the same solar panel 180W and 35V. Firmware was v1.21. Today I made an upgrade to v1.30 - now I have all problems you had - the main solar port isn't working anymore correct.
@hansmuster48343 жыл бұрын
After a Reset the main charging port is now working. But the problem with fluctuations still exist if I use the main port and small ports together. 6 seconds max power 270W, drops to 20-40W for a second and rises quickly to 130W and after 8-10 seconds to max power 270W again.
@hansmuster48343 жыл бұрын
And if I use only the small chargerport (not the main anderson) - it is working. Both ports together and with the same source voltage isn't working.
@MTBIKEXC3 жыл бұрын
Oh no - I better try everything out on mine.... I better not upgrade the firmware - or maybe I should and if the problems surface, return the damn thing.
@charlespalen28443 жыл бұрын
I have a brand new 6000x that does not charge from solar with 1.3 firmware. I got it this way direct from Goal zero. I wish I would have not purchased it. Does not work for solar in any port combination. Have single 100w or dual 100w in series or parallel at voltage levels from 16v to 40v and nothing....
@charlespalen28443 жыл бұрын
I just wanted to update this that, with recent GZ firmware my 6000x works very well now. It took a while but they resolved the issues all with firmware and app updates on the 6000x I have.
@Kimhjortsbjerg11 ай бұрын
You are lucky that it shows 17w input , the normal is that it does not show under 20 w input when sun charging ! You cannot plug in solar and wall charger at the same time unless the sun went down . If you have a programmable stopwatch you can set it to go on at 23:59 and off at 6:00 . Plug in both cables in permanent at the same time and then the whole system is automatic ! Then the wall will charge the battery at night and the sun will charge the battery in the daytime ! What more do you expect ? There will always be something to draw from it that way !
@rpetro253 жыл бұрын
Was going to say maybe it can't dual charger from 2 different power sources at the same time. Maybe it picks one over the other when your trying to charge it from 2 different power sources. You would figure for that price it would be different but it is what it is
@shaneroper54703 жыл бұрын
Solar or wall charge...... units telling you to PICK ONE!
@jurassicoverlandadventure19663 жыл бұрын
We’ve have been traveling full time for about 15 months now and during that time we have gone through 3 yetis. The first one was a yeti 1000, then yeti 1400 and finally the 1500X. We’ve only ran a dometic fridge and used it to charge phones or laptops. The 1500X issues now for us is the AC outlet stopped working. Even after doing factory resets. It’s so crazy to me that these products are so fragile. I went as far as to use styrofoam padding on the bottom and have it secured down with straps. Still broke. I would not recommend these for full time traveling since when it does break you’ll be screwed, unless you want to keep driving to salt lake to get a replacement.
@richbowie763 жыл бұрын
Your experience is similar to mine . Its like being in a bad relationship with customer service! Lol !
@jurassicoverlandadventure19663 жыл бұрын
@@richbowie76 it’s almost like every time I call I have say “hiiiii sorry it’s me again” hahaha
@richbowie763 жыл бұрын
@@jurassicoverlandadventure1966 i know what you mean ! I purchased my 1000 in august of 19 and now have my 2nd 1500x after getting 3 1000 replacements under warranty. I've dealt with customer service reps that are no longer there. Lol. I have never owned one for longer then 3 months. They crap out and theY send me a new one. Good luck !
@jurassicoverlandadventure19663 жыл бұрын
@@richbowie76 dang! And here I thought I was the only one having bad luck with them. I swear if I have to drive to SLC again to get a replacement I’m gonna cry lol It might be time for me to look into setting up my own second battery. That way I can repair it myself.
@richbowie763 жыл бұрын
@@jurassicoverlandadventure1966 Lol! This is group therapy! I think the majority of GZ owners are having problems . Read any reviews on any major retailer and they are all negative and describe all of the issues that you and i have had. Good idea on having a backup plan.
@danielsal54422 жыл бұрын
I don't get the purpose of this video.. You didn't read the manual and you called customer service telling you the things the manual said.. Or maybe that was the purpose? To get people to read the manual?
@thepaulsmalls3 жыл бұрын
We have one, after a lot of research since this is using an MPPT controller vs the old PWM charge controller. So do we have a trade-off between more efficient charging on the solar and the convenience of charging 120 and the solar at the same time? Maybe the older PWM controller was able to handle stepping the voltages?
@jgg2042 жыл бұрын
the Goal Zero MPPT Module (the one that is $100) allows you to take multiple inputs in an additive fashion, like the old PWM method. Just a FYI
@joelmcallister92483 жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting. I a new 1500X too.
@Shloopy4202 жыл бұрын
The supervisor is full of crap. Sure, you can’t use AC and solar at the same time with these controllers. But the main problem is that from just a solar panel, 0-20W is *not ok* on a clear day. Are you returning all GZ equipment? I kinda want to.
@landon8033 жыл бұрын
You cant charge from 120 and solar at the same time ones dc and ones ac cant do both
@MTBIKEXC3 жыл бұрын
On my older Yeti 1250, you could. Very disappointed they didn't build that into the 1500X.
@jncn14902 жыл бұрын
@@MTBIKEXC how about reading about the 1500x before you buy it then complain
@larsjrgensen59756 ай бұрын
That is not the reason. AC is turned into DC before reaching the Yeti, the Yeti can not see a difference between the wall charger and solar.
@jncn14902 жыл бұрын
It does charge and send power under 32f watch many videos on YT doing just that in real world situations. Also the goal Zero works better in colder temps in a insulated cooler and on its side ( videos on that too)
@theartexhibit77922 жыл бұрын
Why did you stop using the 1250? Im considering picking one up.
@MTBIKEXC2 жыл бұрын
Big mistake. I should have stuck with the 1250. I needed to buy new batteries (for it and the auxiliary one I had chained to it) and thought the size and weight of the 1500x was a lot better (which it is) but the downsides to Lithium are huge. I doubt you'll be unhappy with the 1250. It's a great unit.
@apocalypse29413 жыл бұрын
Search trying to think of the difference between the 2 goal zero's in your new one has an MPPT controller. I wonder if that's why you are not able to use solar plus the wall outlet charger? I do have a work around suggestion though. I have a 60 USB C charger plugged up to the front of the goal 0 which will add to solar . It's only 60 watts but It might be a solution for you.
@GillesQuennevilleGQ Жыл бұрын
When the sun is to low on the horizon you cannot have the minimum power necessary to charge.
@ALIASJOHNNYPREPP3 жыл бұрын
Read thecowners manual. duh!!!!
@JoseTorres-ft4xk Жыл бұрын
It seems like more and more people are very disappointed with GZ products lately. It's definitely not the same company of yesteryears. To bad, it was such a great product once upon a time. Charges way to slowly.
@lyndon54783 жыл бұрын
I’m hoping for the best and getting the 6000x because if for some reason it’s not working like your has I know where the are and I can drive up to there door if I have problems with it
@michaelhardy28033 жыл бұрын
you have a shortage wattage Anderson connection
@sprinterdiscovery3 жыл бұрын
Curious about the solar panels you have plugged in. How many volts are actually coming through the Anderson plugs, and how many watts are your solar panels? I have the Yeti 1000 Lithium for the past 3 years. It will not accept more than 360W total coming in. If I try and push it above that, it will go to zero and then bounce back up and then down to zero again. I wonder if the voltage is somehow exceeding the limits of the box. You mentioned charging in the cold... So during the time of your testing December, it's probably cold where you are. Solar panels can actually exceed their rated voltage when it's really cold outside. So that leads me to believe that there is some excess voltage going in. Maybe. 😁 On my channel I show how to connect the Goal Zero to the alternator of my Sprinter using a Victron Orion DC-DC charger to charge my Yeti while I drive. Works awesome. From my tests, if I exceed the 360w coming in from the Victron by also trying to charge with the power brick, my Yeti will go down to 0 then jump up again, then go back to 0.
@uhjyuff20953 жыл бұрын
I have experienced the 360 watts then to 0 watts jumping on the front display on my GZ 3000, but when I look on the GZ app on my phone it shows the correct input charging of 380 watts and doesn't jump up and down. So, I have determined that it is charging the whole time and is just a front display glitch.
@sprinterdiscovery3 жыл бұрын
@@uhjyuff2095 Very good to know thanks!
@Rowsey63 Жыл бұрын
I had my Goal Zero 500X for less than 3 months and it stopped working. Goal Zero won’t honor their warranty either. Several years ago, they made good products but has really dropped in quality. I’ll never buy another Goal Zero product again.
@norkisserrano3 жыл бұрын
Man, for the price, I was expecting this to be more superior than others.
@MTBIKEXC3 жыл бұрын
Tell me about it. I thought it would be a huge improvement over my old Yeti 1250 but it's not. :-(
@jncn14902 жыл бұрын
It’s is. Very bad video and he is not knowledgeable
@coastalcustomlure Жыл бұрын
Dude read your manual. Your problems are operator error.
@moetarded7757 Жыл бұрын
Solar eclipse came sneaking up. Me too
@fikalaredo57623 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qNeIpsZ1m5-2poE.html Check out Will’s video, he shows how to use a third party charge controller and get way better input than goal zero’s PWM or MPPT.
@johnkemper27523 жыл бұрын
I bought a Yeti 1400 and it started screaming and reseting. They sent me a second one same issues. They sent me a 1500x because the 1400 was no more. My 1500x sucks like yours and they never sent shipping to get the 1400. They never sent me credit for a Yeti Link I returned. Now I have a crappy 1400 and crappy 1500x and can't get a reply from support. They suck as do their generators.
@MTBIKEXC3 жыл бұрын
Geeezzzzz.... Sorry to hear all that. Seems like they have major issues. I'd keep calling I guess.
@supiesukie3 жыл бұрын
same here goal zero suck !!!!!! I'm looking MPP all in one now.
@Kimhjortsbjerg Жыл бұрын
Goal Zero 1250 and 1500 are not the same ! on goal zero 1500 you don't get a read on the display under 20w !
@spartanpatriot31633 жыл бұрын
Idk why people are still waisting money on Goal Zero's crap.
@whynot09693 жыл бұрын
What would you recomond? as I’m here cause I’m in the market for something 🤷♂️
@spartanpatriot31633 жыл бұрын
@@whynot0969 blueitte, Jackery, Ecoflow
@samuelmata36013 жыл бұрын
*****please go back to a video you made back in march 2020 and help me with one question*** (video )== ***how to use old iMac 2009-2014 as a secondary monitor**
@cookiecracker62662 жыл бұрын
Did you read the manual?
@sethbays26583 жыл бұрын
Would your original 1500x charge on AC power? I’m having similar issues but mine will charge on AC power just not with my solar.
@MrToastedtoad2 жыл бұрын
guessing software issue after about 1 minute.
@sashanealand831527 күн бұрын
wow they started giving you BS about the weather!!! If they dont know why dont they just say so
@1949chefjojo3 жыл бұрын
The Battery must be charged at all Times.
@sashanealand831527 күн бұрын
no my 1500x cant charge from wall and solar at same time either
@bjornbb13 жыл бұрын
Not ideal, but you could consider/try a solution like this and see if that helps: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qNeIpsZ1m5-2poE.html
@MTBIKEXC3 жыл бұрын
Wow - that's very interesting but ... the big reason I went with a Goal Zero all-in-one product was to not have wires everywhere. That guys channel is pretty cool. Thanks!
@bjornbb13 жыл бұрын
I fully agree, it shouldn't be necessary, but the Victron products are very good (I have personal experience with them in stationary setups) and it may improve your setup even further (enable higher PV voltage, better MPPT performance and a lot of custom settings). There may even be room inside the top lid (expansion module bay) for one of the smaller Victrons, the Smartsolar 75/15 (75V PV - 15A max) I have in front of me is about 38mm high (the model shown in the video is quite a bit higher). I am considering buying a 1500X as well (I currently own a smaller/older Yeti and the Sherpa models), and I have followed your videos with interest to see if you found a solution. I even compared the Yeti 1250 and 1500X manuals. The 1250 manual does says you can combine solar and AC charging, while the 1500X manual says AC and Solar cannot be combined, and you can only charge on multiple ports if the source has the same voltage. So a bit of a downgrade there..
@apocalypse29413 жыл бұрын
So I tried the car charger and the wall charger at the same time and it didn't work. I could add usbc charging to either though. Next Im going to try multiple car chargers
@MTBIKEXC3 жыл бұрын
But one or the other works? Just not both? They told me they had to have the same input so multiple car chargers might work but this is a far cry from how my Yeti 1250 worked where it would charge from anything simultaneously.
@apocalypse29413 жыл бұрын
@@MTBIKEXC yes I hear your frustrations. Subscribe to my channel and I'll make a video on it. How much solar do you have going to the GZ? I'm about to install a 195 watt panel
@safranpollen3 жыл бұрын
here a power station with much more power, better technolgy and even cheaper >>> POWEROAK portable Powerstation AC200P
@sampep3 жыл бұрын
Well that sucks! I can't believe they pull weird stuff like that... only one input that's unacceptable. I have not tried both soalr + AC on my 3000x yet, I use the tank module, it charge 500-750w while driving witch is awesome. The X has mppt and accept up to 50v witch definitely helps with big solar panels depending on your needs.
@richbowie763 жыл бұрын
Any update?
@michaelb33833 жыл бұрын
U should probably purchase 1 of those cheap harbor freight generators that use gas and make sure u use a harbor freight coupon get 10% off
@anthonyperez47803 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@lyndon54783 жыл бұрын
Why did you wait so long ? You might just have a bad one. It’s not an excuse but it do happen
@MTBIKEXC3 жыл бұрын
You know, with all my calls to Goal Zero, they never once offered to replace it. And I really wasn't sure if it was my panel, cable or really a bad unit. I felt kinda bad bringing it back to REI too. Wish Goal Zero had offered to fix or replace it but they never did.
@lyndon54783 жыл бұрын
@@MTBIKEXC really that’s too bad because I’m wanting to buy the yeti 6000x and if your getting that from them what would happen if I get one. That’s a lot of cash out of packet
@MTBIKEXC3 жыл бұрын
@@lyndon5478 yeh - i'm still very nervous about this unit. i don't know how the 1250 could have worked perfectly for 5+ years for me and the 1500x be such an iffy product.
@lyndon54783 жыл бұрын
I’m getting it anyway when i have the cash because there just down the street for me if there’s problems
@MTBIKEXC3 жыл бұрын
@@lyndon5478 Sweet! Definitely would love to hear about your experience should you want to create a video or just comment.
@fachman3 жыл бұрын
this ridiculous but it doesn't work this scenario on this model. Yeti always take charging from inlet that has a higher voltage, even it has a none wattage. As can you see this is another nonsens in generation X. Next fu...ed thing is that battery is charge to full and than discharge to for example to 95% then charge, discharge, charge forever, even if you have power delivery in to inlet. I wait for next gen of yeti.