Congratulations on being able to add Ping products to your matrix. I suspect this will help your business significantly given the number of people I know who swear by Ping.

Appreciate your honesty and professionalism!

Glad to see someone compare the 10k against the Ping LST model instead of other competing brands! great video!

Been waiting for the Ping 10k test and I agree with your results...not that much better. I appreciate your work. Keep it going Brother!!

Nice review Ross with a lot of interesting information imparted during the video. Also good to compare it to another club at the end.

Love the honesty of your reviews and not just using all the manufacturers hype. Surprised by the results as they were so different to my golf spy, who to me also seem very honest and not hype driven. I guess the answer is get fitted.

Great video Ross 👍

This is why I love all the different videos and opinions. We’re all different. The Max was so left biased for me and the 10k was so neutral and even gave me a bit of a fade. Like you the left side of the course is a no go. One thing I do have similar is how low spin those heads are for forgiving heads. Again as echoed, get fit 💙

Just got fitted this week. 430 Max gave me more distance and less dispersion than the 430 Max 10k. Plus it saved me some bucks too! Definitely got more spin and higher flight with the MAX over the 10k

Good video. I didn’t have a great experience with the 10k driver (despite the hype from several online reviewers lol). I tried it with multiple shafts as well and just did not get on with it. What’s surprising to me is how limited the adjustments are with the Ping hosel. I’m a bit shocked there is no upright setting but they have a flat setting 🤷🏻‍♂️. I know Ping drivers are billed as the most forgiving and I think that upright setting would help elevate it even more because most players would benefit from a little more of an “anti-right” setting. At that price point as well I believe the 10k may be a bit more bark than bite. Keep up the good work! It is very much appreciated 🙏

Great to see you back Ross. Great film, very interesting 👍

Great video, see you Friday!

Pea was looking at you like you were crazy chatting to no one🤣I love my Ping 430 Max. I like ping Drivers as a rule.I have 9 degree set at 9 degree with the weight set to draw. Tour stiff shaft…love it ⛳️🏌🏻

Went for a fitting yesterday, convinced I was coming out with ping 10k or something more forgiving ….ordered Darkspeed LS 🙈… was unreal 👌

Another nice review Ross. I will be sticking with my G425 12” Max as I can’t afford to keep changing! 😂 Can you get hold of the new Eleven Golf driver to give a review please? Also give your view on their irons. Gorgeous looking visla as well btw.

Not that I've been waiting for this....😁

Great video I'm a massive ping fan and went for an upgrade to the 430 max or ls but after numerous shaft fittings i just couldn't get decent numbers from either head. The fitter then had me try the darkspeed x and the ls and instantly the numbers shot up. I was shocked just how good the cobra head performed so i now have the ls version in the bag. Even demoed the max heads from taylormade and callaway and the cobra just pipped them on distance and dispersion too

Finally somebody tested all 3 ping heads at once! Nicely done. I admit I was quite surprised by the results, especially the old max head. I have been told spin wise it goes LST lowest, MAX is the highest, and the max 10k fits in between, but thats not really what showed up. I was in tsi3 and I just picked up a max 10k. Usually i go for low spin heads as thats a problem for me. The max 10k for me is pretty straight, very straight actually, but it is a bit spinny for me, up to 2700-2800. The spin is very consistent across the face, but I can't figure it out. Other drivers, if I want a low spin bomber I can try for a slight high toe strike to pull spin off, and they will. The 10k doesn't seem to do that. Low strikes can be 2000 spin or 2700 spin. High strikes are the same. Overall the spin for me is pretty stable at 2700ish, but it just sees kinda weird. Probably going to swap it for either TSR3 or Ai smoke TD, but I need to test the cobra darkspeed ls now.

Interesting review. I have a 430 Max 10.5 that I dial down to 9 and I still have high spin issues. If I hit a draw I'm usually around 3k-3.2k backspin (fades get up to 4k and a lot of distance is sacrificed) and would prefer about 2500. Good chance it's my delivery but my launch monitor (Skytrak+) doesn't display angle of attack unfortunately. Anyways, goes to show that you need to hit the clubs yourself as one guy might have low spin issues and the next guy high spin. Delivery is everything. :)

As a G430 Max player this was somewhat reassuring for my accountant!

What is the head weight comparison between the g430 and the darkspeed as you say the ping head feels heavy. I can't find the head weight online for the Cobra. Ping say the g430 is 206g

The LST results are very impressive. Seems like the 10K needs to be lofted down 1* and then the overall numbers of all 3 clubs would be more in alignment. I have the 10K and have tried the MAX and LST. They're all awesome. The 10k forgiveness is amazing.

Just tested it with ventus tr blue 6x with the 22 gram weight instead of 28 gram. Brings swing weight down to d4. But holy man it was good with the ping 2.0 65x but with the ventus, next level

love the dog :)

What’s your favorite non low spin driver this year? I haven’t found anything better than LTDX

Good job bringing in Ping. And very interesting results. As Ping guy this was very insightful. And exactly why I put my money into lessons. If your swing is good, all these drivers will yield similiar results. But when you only had 3-4 that felt goods out of 30 or so shots, as they say, ball dont lie! Cheers mate.

Great video, how come ping didn’t send you the full suite of heads and weights, but of a shame really. I find some places don’t even have the extra taylormade head weights to help with the fitting.

You've got a gorgeous Vizsla! Subscribed and following :)

The supposed benefit of the Max 10k is that high MOI and therefore maximum forgiveness on mishits. What are your feelings on the Max 10k vs the LST on mishits? I'm not the guy who hits the center of the face all the time, so maximum forgiveness on off center hits is a big factor for me. I saw a definite improvement when I got the G430 LST from my SIM2 driver, even if I go back and forth (taking my improved swing into the equation). Would the 10k be worth a trade from the LST for a guy who doesn't always find the center of the face with the driver (I lean toward high toe on mishits)?

Very interested in 10k. First fitting session with it had 14 launch 2300 spin. I'm usually a low spin player. Especially with TSR 2

Thumbs up given for the dog!!! I'm glad you, as a better player, did this video. I play the LST now and I was interested in the 10k, but the sound if SOOO bad. I've heard it outdoors and it's awful. The LST is the quietest of the bunch in practical usage. The 10k is the loudest and highest pitch. IMHO you hit the LST best. Maybe that's why EVERY tour player uses the LST. I'd like to see you hit the 10k in a 9° head instead of tweaking the 10.5°. Thanks for your honesty.

All the stock option shafts for the 10k are counter balanced. Yiur swing weight with that ventus black would be like D9 lol

Great video . I play a max and finding it spins too much and goes too high . It’s 10.5 but I play down at 9 to help . Maybe a daft question but why does a 10.5 down to 9 play very different to a standard 9 ? Cheers

Love your dog. What's his/her name?

@27:05 you say that a 10.5 dialed down to 9 won’t play the same as a normal 9. Why is that? Because the face is opened?

Currently gaming a g400 max 9 degree. I'm very interested to see if there's something else that might outperform it. Had a basic fitting at AG with the new stuff and nothing did so i didn't switch. I predict that the srixon zx5 mk11 LS will be a bomber for you.

I had a fitting recently, ended in the g430 max the 10k was too low spin for me

I’ve had the ping lst, switched to titelist tsr3 and wow. Never going back. It’s the most forgiving low spinning monster I’ve ever used. Even out of the toe it doesn’t lose ball speed. Amazing.

Come for the driver review, stay for the vizsla. We lost ours last week, made me happy to see another one. 😢

What length is your driver?

Curious about comment that a turned down lofted club isn't same as lower lofted head. Do you have a video about that, or can you explain? Thank you.

If you fit yourself. Like counterbalance shaft to a swing weight you liked, yiu would love this thing. Or lower the back weight.

Ay yo, I have the TR Black 5X in my 10K. What a shaft. I'm loving the combo, not enough speed or skill for the Darkspeed LS.

Whats your favorite and best driver for 100 mph swing ?

Your business should go up 20% with ping congratulations

I own the 400 max. I own the 425 max I just bought the 430 max 10k. I can't really tell any difference between the 3 of them They are all good !

Couldn't you make the straight line go to the pin?

I would have agreed you might have been having an off day until you smoked 2 drives down the middle with the Cobra (and longer than any of the Pings).

Enjoying the commentary/analysis but wish you’d pick a different hole for these testing shots in future videos. Hard to get a quick impression of how much these shots are varying when 1) you have such a tiny fairway landing area, and 2) your tee box view has you grazing a huge tree that’s impeding the line of sight to the entire hole.

I feel the 10.5 vs 9 vibe has made comparison difficult

Been struggling with a hook for years and am unfortunately realizing that my Ping driver probably isn't helping. 😢

All these drivers are so similar these tests usually become more of a test of your swing at the moment, then really the driver

Interesting. I found the G430 Max 10K to be lower spinning than the Max.

Why is low spin a problem, if the distance is ok?

Where are you based for fittings

The 10k was the first Ping driver I ever hit. It’s likely the shaft I got with it but I can’t hit the Damn thing straight to save my life. It’s the opposite of forgiving for me. Got fit into a tsr2 and hit it 100 times better

I’m struggling to square the face up

Interesting… 😝

I understand. I’m not a ping guy either

Great example of how a lofted down driver doesn't replicate the performance of a head with an initial lower static loft.

why have you not been playing or swinging?

so how accurate is the data this device is seeing? like come on. how can it tell the balls rpm in all directions? obviously there is some room for error but how accurate?

Nice test, but if tester if pro .... someone with clubspeed > 110 mph, the result will not be so much useful/apropriate for "common guy". I'm afraid :-)

Dude, you'd need to hit 3 wood on that hole

Had the 10k for a few weeks and returned it. Nothing special with that driver vs anything else

If u can’t hit driver,fit them into a ping 😜

I do not think this driver is going to best the longest lowest spinning driver - try hitting these drivers 1 or 2 degrees up and around the face to see whats what

Old school 430 max? Haha

Some absolute butthurt throbbers in this comment section. Fuck the haters Ross. Nothing biased about this review whatsoever. I game the g430 max as it suits my shitty swing where I use the whole face. Still gets me 250 down the fairway relatively straight and I’m happy with that 😂

Usually like your reviews. Your swing was way off on these. Not a great review 😢

this review could have been a lot better if you had just used a driving range instead of that dog leg left hole.

I don’t think the ping of any kind is for you

Not sure I want to watch this. might cost me £550

Ping 10k smokes the darkspeed, rookie numbers. How are you going to end a ping video with a cobra. No longer watching this bias reviewer. I’m glad this the only and last video I clicked on from you, good luck.

This might be the worst driver review video I’ve ever watched. Was this your first time swinging a golf club? It would have been nice to see a decent golfer swings these clubs.

Dude. Ping may not have treated you right for whatever reason in the past but, what you’re doing here…. it ain’t science. Your bias is showing. You’ve hit the Darkspeed in the past and you’re comfortable with it. We get it. We all have those clubs that just seem right ( a combo of clubhead, shaft and our imperfect swing inconsistency, down to how we slept last night and what we had for breakfast). When we want to talk about empirical truth there’s a reason robots matter. And there’s a reason that the individual’s singular reaction to a particular head and shaft combo relate to performance ( yeah, fittings matter, multiple day fittings are the best-we don’t swing the same every day day in the world of handicap golf). In my very un-humble opinion, you’re passing off the subjective as the objective too much here.

I gamed the ping 425 and was consistent with it then had a fitting and I just couldn’t get used to the 10k and ended up with Callaway AI smoke max as better consistency 🏌🏼‍♂️👍🏼