This is an exact copy of leisure travel vans from Canada. They came out with this floor plan 2 years ago. They have a 3 year waiting list to buy this floor plan.

I’m team non-slide so it’s right up my alley!!

This is exactly like the leisure rear lounge rv

Tiffin has been watching Leisure Travel Vans

Hey guys, please show us how the drawers are constructed! We want to know if they’re stapled (junk) or dovetailed!

Something I love is the flip down large counter space

If tiffin would make a drop down bed like old safari trek motorhomes (drop from ceiling), pocket door for bathroom from front and rear lounge. Remove over head bunk (useless) add windshield to front cap, move kitchen further forward (straight galley or stove 1 side sink other and have small sofa with arm tables) just thought no slides awsome just needs better execution.

The drop down bed, setting it up every night, wouldn't bother me. I'd adapt to that easily.

There is so much to like about this new floorplan👍my only concerns are having to make the bed and having to store cushions every night, and the lack of a comfortable seating area if your spouse goes to bed a couple of hours before you😮

Buyers are tired of buying slide out RVs that leak, breakdown and just simply don’t work. If slideluts are not built good then they are rain traps and water is death to an Rv. Love love love 💕 this RV ❤❤❤😊😊😊

Matt with every RV review: "You're going to have mirrors on both sides"..... It's kinda like saying: "you're going to have wheels on all corners"....LOL

Without the slide out, it is kind of tight where the fridge is, but it is what it is.

I love this unit

I like the Leisure Travel Vans Unity Murphy model. It's way better IMO.

Great video. I like almost everything about this floor plan. The thing I don’t get is those two weird seats in the front. I don’t see the need since the drive and passenger seat spin around. They could use that space for storage. Good job on the video. Thanks.

Leisure Travel Van competition, copied floor plan, but I would buy a LTV over this. 🍻

Dont know if im supposed to view this but the idea of no slideouts I like.

Like the idea.....but I would do something different with the seats up front.....one or 2 swivel captains chairs in place of those small benches..... And a simpler seating area in the rear with an overhead drop down bunk(similar to a toy hauler) if they were able to incorporate all that....they would of nailed it

A knock off of the LTV Rear lounge model!

If I was going to go full time I would definitely go no slide - less things that can break when repeat using on a daily basis?

I would definitely go into a B+ with this floor plan and I’ve noticed that usually you don’t get high end furniture. This is perfect for me and my hubby for retirement ❤fromX

I really like this RV! The rear lounge is awesome, and the Murphy bed is very cool, and looks comfortable. I just question if someone taller than Matt can recline in the seats. It looks like anyone much taller than Matt wouldn’t fit in the reclined position. The wardrobe storage was isn’t much. I thought the bathroom/shower areas were nice. The kitchen is small, but it’s laid out well enough based on the size of the area to work with. I’m not too sure about the dinette area, as I much prefer a regular dinette set up, even if it only sits two. Of course, the MBZ chassis is always a plus. I was very surprised at how much exterior storage is on this. There’s more storage than you see on Class C’s. Although it a very nice RV, I find the prices on these to be outrageous! I’ll never, ever understand why the cost is so much higher than a Class C, most 5th wheels and even some Class A’s! I’ll bet the profit margins on Class B’s are better than any other RV.

Need this layout on a big Ford chassis that has a enough payload that can tow a trailer! Short sweet and tow capacity…and no Mercedes.

I think front should be kitchen bath and storage. Leave the back for living.

"You know what I'm saying?" Come on Matt. I'm gonna start counting.

THIS is what I want more US-based RV manufacturers to offer. Hybrid Electric/Diesel is the way to go...

I think I would have to stick with Tiffin's RW, Murphy Bed over the RLW Rear Lounge. It seems that Tiffin and another manufacturer that have created their rendition of LTV's Rear Lounge have come up short. I wish they would copy LTV's FX (Murphy front, lounge rear) with the small slide, but thus far, no-one. The non-starter for me is the bed. The problem is the orientation of the 58x74 with the 74 the width of the RV. That means you will be sleeping east/west rather than north/south and tight with no room to tiptoe around. With the east/west arrangement, one person has to crawl over the other in the middle of the night to go to the bathroom. Of course, the good news is that there is no 3 year wait. Also, I may be wrong but appears the fridge is dual opening from eather side. It wasn't demonstrated but you can clearly see handles on the shower side when the video is looking towards the front. Also, Tiffin tends to put the yellow OCCC sticker on the driver doorframe.

Did you mention CCC? It has to be pretty low. It's annoying that Tiffin doesn't seem to provide this spec on their site.

It's cute. Love a lot of features. Wonder if they make a rear bathroom with NO slides.

LOVE this floorplan! I would be happy to drop that bed down every night! 😀

If i do no slides then i would just build a bus out myself. I could do all the stuff the luxury stuff the big coaches have for a fraction of the price.

I like most of this but that bed I don't know if I would put it up during the day, I don't like that round sink in the kitchen, I like the bathroom. Would have been nice to know the price.

Love your objectivity. Keep it up.

The ya know what I'm saying 👑 king never fails to deliver..😂

Not bad. If the sale price is 150k they have a winner. How come only one burner on the cooktop? Seems like there was room for two.

The TV looks a little high, maybe they can use a tv bracket that can pull the TV down like some toyhaulers?

Trying to imitate Leisure Travel Vans floorplans.

Matt I agree with you. The lounge area is all wrong. It would have been great if they put in the van life twin bed design.

Nice rig, but sorry, agree with Matt, with this bed you 're stuck with huge cushions you don't know where to put, and you have to jump over your partner to get out of the bed... And the booster seats, stuck with more cushions... it feels very cramped at the front. It is a nice try, but nothing close to the LTV. What is the OCCC?

Marty with RV Street said that “Everything works great : until it doesn’t “. It’s the, when it doesn’t, that is a nightmare for any new or old RVer. No one want to “work” on their new or semi new RV.

Yes, this is a Rear Lounge LTV floor plan. Leisure Travel Vans have been innovators in the B+/small C category. They introduce a floor plan then others copy them. They have several interesting floor plans with very nice materials.

Should get rid of the two useless seats behind drivers area and shorten overall length. Along with useless overbunk.

Anyone considering the Tiffin B+ should make sure they have improved their cargo carrying capacity weight. If you can't take your clothes, dishes and bedding with you, you aren't going to have much fun.

Shouldn’t the large rear lounge window be on the curb side versus the drivers side?

Hi you guys ❤

I don't see the purpose of having a small TV upfront. Instead, if there was no TV, it would leave more space for the small pantry.

Matt, you say no propane, but the specs you showed says it has a 12gal propane tank, and the fridge is gas/elec. I must have a propane tank somewhere, right?

Since I would not want a Mercedes Sprinter, would rather have this on a Transit. The cushions look like they would fit under the bed when the bed is down. The overhead cabinets in the back are kind of useless and would require a step stool to be able to reach (for most of us). The bathroom situation is good. The front of the unit would be only marginally comfortable. No slide is a very good thing. No propane is a very good thing. I would not want an absorption-type refrigerator and this one does not have that--also a very good thing.

Very nice! 👍🤘Thank you! Thank you!🔶️🎃🖤🧡🧡👻🧡🧡🖤🎃🔶️

The TV in the back room seems to be located a bit too high to me.

I am not a fan of the B class anything. I does not make sense to me it cost as much as a gas class A or an entry level Super C. But I know there are people who want that compact vehicle and I say more power to them.

oooo nice

No usb ports when the bed is in down position and no space next to bed for cpap ? 😢😢😢

This is a nice B van. I usually skip the B van videos as I don't think they would work for my tall hubby, but this might actually be the exception. Nicely done. ❤

Great review.

Hey Matt and Andrea,thanks for the review! Not a fan of a round sink or the small bunk over the cab. I would like to see a drop down bed in the back so you could leave the area set up-I don't care for moving cushions around! 😊 Love the separate shower area and a porcelain toilet! The rear lounge is cool. Keep on keepin' on!

Hey, Matt, Please tell me that the front passenger seat reclines a little. Hubby's had broken back twice, and would need the back of it to adjust back a bit. If so, this might just be our new rv !❤

I agree about those front seats. I would rather have a little more counter space on the one side and maybe a small seat with storage space on the other side. I don't like the rear bed either. I would be more apt to just leave the bed down and use it as my couch to relax as well. Maybe the sofa just needs to convert into a bed. I would also say I don't like that it's on a Mercedes chassis. Mercedes just adds too much to the cost.

It looks as if there is room in the dump/valve bay to install a waste master always connected hose? Why, oh why don’t they just come permanently connected???

I like this, i just need this as used, or a cheap price...Lol

I am a anti Mercedes/ diesel rv person, but I really like this floor plan. Does it come in a Ford? or Ram?

They finally caught up with the LTVs…

I agree with the front seating area. Give us an OPTION of maybe a bigger kitchen with more cabinets on the one side and maybe a closet space on the other for coats or clothes/food. ALSO an OPTION for cabinets above the cab like LTV does. NOBODY is sleeping up there, let's just be honest and people are using it for storage anyways so give us a better storage option. Great looking unit and would be perfect with those options. I actually see this as a good full time unit if you could option it with a bigger kitchen like I said. the back isn't that much work for bed, but I do agree about the cabinets being tiny. I bet Tiffin changes that soon anyway.

Ok Matt, I want one. Where do I sign? :)

The idea is great but it lacks the quality one should expect from Tiffin & Mercedes. As a workhorse it would be useful but not for vacations unless you travel alone. Even for one person it’s a van at best.

I hate the plug in on the back. If someone taps you while driving, you probably lose plug in capability.

So Matt, can you fit your folded Lectric XP e-bike in one of the outside storage units? Having room for mine is a requirement for any RV that I buy

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someone should lead the movement to take the passenger seat out of RVs. I would love to see how engineers could re-engineer that space, I mean you could get a fridge in that space if it was engineered right.

Just think, Matt is 5 foot 4 inches and he could spread out on the first seat he sat in and the recliner is feet almost touched. To enjoy this area you have to be short. Plus when you sleep on the bed your head will be below your feet. Hope you don’t have high blood pressure.

Why do US manufacturers refuse to make a 20 foot B+? I do NOT want a camper van. I want a RV coach built for living lashed to a MB, Sprinter or Transit chassis. I don't need to house 3 or more people. I'd buy a wingamm oasi if it were available.

Bouncy in the back when traveling like a Class B sofa?

Why is this considered a B+ when it has an overcab bunk area with a ladder?

Is this 2wd?

No slide is great, but no way am I messing with that ridiculous bed every night !!! 💩💩

Hi Matt and Andrea! My dislikes are the Murphy bed set up and the round sink and too small of a bunk. Like the shower the lounger in the back and no slides. Thank you Matt and Andrea!

imagine that bed would be an elevator bed ... take my money

CCC???

Is it too much to ask for an AWD Toy Hauler?

If spending $200,000 on a motorhome frustrated me too much to use the bed every night, I would just choose another RV😂

Getting close. Still need all electric, no propane and a good sized rear garage.

Dislike 1--the plain colors, 2--only one burner, 3--Matt didn't skip enough. Like 1--the back lounge/Murphy bed, the shower, the extended counter top.

In the Specs the frig is Gas or Electric?

"POTABLE"!

Good review; I agree with your likes and dislikes, especially disliking the seats behind the cab and lack of storage for clothes. The bathroom needs a medicine cabinet for us old folks who have a bunch of prescriptions.

OCCC?

I heard the engines are not good

No CCC??

That tv is way to close

I'm sorry but someone is completely off there rocker to price this at $202,000, that is insanity for a small motor home. I'd start being interested at $100,000

Seems this is an rv for people who dont want to, or are afraid, to drive a real rv. Weekend use only? Likes: benz, murphy bed, Dislikes: too small, no slides, plastic shower door, bunk over cab is not suitable for sleeping but storage, $202k msrp wow I wouldm't pay 102k.

Bathroom Door DOESN'T🤦‍♀️ CLOSE WHEN GOING ON THE TOILET 🤦‍♀️🤷‍♀️👎👎👎

To be truthfull, I dont care anymore about Matt's PPP because I am short like him but I lost 90 pounds in the last 3years and dont sit legs spread at 90degrees like him LOL And on couches and seats, I dont sit on my leg like he does either, so most would probably be fine by me. No offense Matt ! LOL

Good to see they avoided the faux painted white brick shower look that seems to be in every RV, but they still using those horrible textured wallpaper-look beige wall panels. And every colour in inside is just a minor variation of the same beigey tone. Very low contrast, no use of complimentary colours as usual. Who designs these things? Come on RV industry, you can do better than this!

Hate it. So many reasons. And $202K !!! No thank you!

Do they steal leisure travels designs 😮 Can't get one anyway so that's a great alternative The chairs in the back are way better than the leisure van

this is the worts you guys have ever done no sales here

Not a B+ it’s a class C

Oh no..do you have covid? A lot of people seem to be getting it right now. I hope not 🙏