US offshore wind: tapping into an underused resource | FT Energy Source

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Жыл бұрын

Wind power is the number one source of renewable energy in the US, but nearly all this stems from onshore wind. The US offshore wind industry is underdeveloped and, with only two small offshore operations to date, it lags far behind Europe and China by comparison. The FT’s Derek Brower looks at why progress is slow, and what the White House is trying to do about it.
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@krakken-
@krakken- Жыл бұрын
About 230,000 birds are killed after colliding with a wind turbine every year. By comparison, cats are responsible for the deaths of 2.4 billion birds each year. After that, collisions with building glass and vehicles are to blame for about another 800 million deaths.
@vishalgiraddi5357
@vishalgiraddi5357 Жыл бұрын
While I am pro renewable This comparison is misleading cats kill small, abundant birds like Ravens While wind turbines kill not so abundant, large birds like falcons and eagles
@franzjoseph1837
@franzjoseph1837 Жыл бұрын
@@vishalgiraddi5357 yes but so does fossil fuel emissions which are also destroying their ecosystems carry capacity and biodiversity. So once again the deaths from turbines etc are minuscule to the deaths from constant fossil fuel usage and of course actually skycrappers.
@hemogoblin85
@hemogoblin85 Жыл бұрын
Just to highlight the difference in these numbers: 2,400,000,000 (cats) 800,000,000 (buildings and vehicles) 230,000 (wind turbines) (hmm, to me it just looks like a desperately weak attempt to discredit green energy)
@DemPilafian
@DemPilafian Жыл бұрын
@@vishalgiraddi5357 *_"While I am pro renewable"_* ... and Trump is a bird conservationist.
@vishalgiraddi5357
@vishalgiraddi5357 Жыл бұрын
@@franzjoseph1837 yes, those issues need to be tackled too, i never said that coal does not harm birds/biodiversity, we should be looking for reliable as well as clean energy sources like nuclear/geothermal/hydro( & ofc improve energy storage so that renewable energy can be exploited to its fullest extent, & improve capacity factor)
@Dr.Gehrig
@Dr.Gehrig Жыл бұрын
Great to see. Let's pick up the pace, East coast, West Coast, and the Gulf Coast. These are crucial resources to tap.
@gilgamecha
@gilgamecha Жыл бұрын
Without a radical breakthrough in storage, wind and solar require building more fossil fuel plants to balance the supply. Want to save the planet? Build nuclear.
@Dr.Gehrig
@Dr.Gehrig Жыл бұрын
@@gilgamecha storage has had all the breakthroughs it needs. We have batteries, pumped hydro, gravity batteries, compressed air, cryo liquid air, heat storage, flywheels, super capacitors, and vehicle to grid evs. We just have to build them out. Also solar and wind back each other up beautifully. While offshore wind is very consistent and reliable. And then of course, there's hydropower, bioenergh, geothermal, and yes nuclear. They all have a place in the clean energy transition. But of all of those nuclear is usually the most expensive and the slowest to build new, especially in the US. I do support more nuclear in some parts of the world, but it is no silver bullet to the energy issues.
@jeffgold3091
@jeffgold3091 Жыл бұрын
@@Dr.Gehrig if offshore wind was consistent and reliable we’d still have commercial sailing ships . try sailing the east coast of the US and see how reliable wind is
@Dr.Gehrig
@Dr.Gehrig Жыл бұрын
@@jeffgold3091 depends on placement. Also, the design and purpose of a windmill and a ship sail are vastly distant. This is a fallacious analogy.
@jamesesselman283
@jamesesselman283 Жыл бұрын
@@Dr.Gehrig Batteries?.... compressed air?..... super capacitors?... flywheels? Ever thought about getting in touch with reality?...If these "storage" methods were practical we would be hearing about it non-stop from the main stream media. The truth is that there is no good back up storage method for large scale energy and that is wind and solar's achilles heal. Wind and solar energy will eventually prove to be virtually worthless especially for 3rd countries with hundreds of millions of poverty stricken people.
@kriterium123
@kriterium123 Жыл бұрын
Suddenly Trump is all worried about birds health
@pizzaiolo181
@pizzaiolo181 Жыл бұрын
Don't tell him about KFCs
@cameronf3343
@cameronf3343 Жыл бұрын
The real biggest graveyard for birds is under a tree beside a rural or suburban road. Birds are the most suicidal bastards in the world I swear.
@anglosaxonmike8325
@anglosaxonmike8325 Жыл бұрын
When you consider that a turbine never saves as much co2 as it takes to build and service them, and this cold calm week they produced almost nothing, you have to wonder at the IQ of their supporters.
@bigmedge
@bigmedge 4 ай бұрын
@@anglosaxonmike8325that’s not the case in the New England or the Rocky Mountain states . Tons of near constant wind offshore in New England, & the Rocky Mountains literally get more wind than any other place on the planet
@Steenu1
@Steenu1 Жыл бұрын
Really weird comments. In Denmark off shore Wind rules ! Clean energy. Its a win win for mother earth and our future generations.
@anglosaxonmike8325
@anglosaxonmike8325 Жыл бұрын
When you consider that a turbine never saves as much co2 as it takes to build and service them, and this cold calm week they produced almost nothing, you have to wonder at the IQ of their supporters.
@yankee5886
@yankee5886 Жыл бұрын
These nimbys in Massachusetts shot down the offshore windfarm they were trying to build. They throw fits when a solar farm is proposed in their communities. But yet they demand we switch to green energy.
@falsemcnuggethope
@falsemcnuggethope Ай бұрын
So they moved their backyards offshore?
@jamestajiri58
@jamestajiri58 Жыл бұрын
The duck curve shows that renewable energy drops in the evening when electricity demand is highest. Wind drops in the evening over land because ground has a low heat capacity and this kills air currents. Wind picks up at night over water because water has a high heat capacity that stays warm over night creating rising convection currents that create wind. Thus off shore wind turbines are better at supplying high electricity demand at night.
@SweBeach2023
@SweBeach2023 Жыл бұрын
The electricity at night is normally rather low.
@Dr.Gehrig
@Dr.Gehrig Жыл бұрын
This is why Wind and solar compliment each other so well.
@advanter5438
@advanter5438 Жыл бұрын
It's about complementation and storage projects taking off unbalancing in the grid and saving energy for when it's really needed. More demand => more supply => more demand etc. A whole new industry is being developed here
@anglosaxonmike8325
@anglosaxonmike8325 Жыл бұрын
@@SweBeach2023 Funny that, it's rather high in thhe UK, people cooking, lights on, heating on, demand is high. Dark at 4pm.
@anglosaxonmike8325
@anglosaxonmike8325 Жыл бұрын
@@Dr.Gehrig Only when the wind blows
@fiandtkrisna78
@fiandtkrisna78 10 ай бұрын
Amazing & Brilliant Of The Education Wind Turbines In This videos i hope in this future i can make to a wind turbines to change of the electrical in this city
@andyroid7339
@andyroid7339 Жыл бұрын
All this is great but shouldn't the U.S. also construct a truly 'national' grid. To my knowledge it has three separated grids. That is, when there is no wind in on the east coast, energy cannot be taken from the west coast or even the centre.
@musiqueetmontagne
@musiqueetmontagne Жыл бұрын
I wonder if any of the UK firms tendered for the partnership too???
@musiqueetmontagne
@musiqueetmontagne Жыл бұрын
@niels lund Right.. I know that Denmark is one of the countries leading the way in wind generated electricity, that's wonderful, I just thought that some UK companies had special expertise with off-shore power generation.. I could be wrong though. 😂
@NashHinton
@NashHinton Жыл бұрын
Keep scaling up. End greenhouse gases.
@Richard482
@Richard482 Жыл бұрын
Recently read an article about 100% recyclable wind turbine blades. I'd like to see these deployed world-wide. Also read that painting one blade black, can reduce bird deaths by 70%.
@jaredgarbo3679
@jaredgarbo3679 Жыл бұрын
You could recycle the turbines, but there isn't much use for them. I think I've seen some have been used to make park benches, and in one case it was used to make a children's playground
@Richard482
@Richard482 Жыл бұрын
@@jaredgarbo3679 No, I mean the materials that make the blade can be fully separated and then used to make other things.
@DemPilafian
@DemPilafian Жыл бұрын
The blades last 3 decades and are inert so you can just bury them like you'd bury a rock. It's such a tiny problem compared to recycling an old gas power plant or recycling a decommissioned nuclear power plant that it's almost laughable.
@Richard482
@Richard482 Жыл бұрын
@@DemPilafian Burying waste is not a solution.
@DemPilafian
@DemPilafian Жыл бұрын
@@Richard482 *Inert.* Look it up. Of course I'd still love to hear your magical method to recycle a decommissioned fossil fuel power plant. Has your magical method ever been used even once in the history of humanity?
@obes8
@obes8 Жыл бұрын
New Beginnings
@madtscientist8853
@madtscientist8853 Ай бұрын
The key is the wind gets focused inside the city but the wind offshore is not nearly as strong as inside of the City
@jonevansauthor
@jonevansauthor Жыл бұрын
I really hope some of these wind farms are visible from Trump Tower. He'll love that. :)
@myparceltape1169
@myparceltape1169 Жыл бұрын
Compare the time to launch one of the support vessels with the time to launch an Iowa.
@aaronvallejo8220
@aaronvallejo8220 Жыл бұрын
Renewably powered global economy...let's rock and roll!!
@janklaas6885
@janklaas6885 Жыл бұрын
©️6:32 if used this timemark as a photo, its a great picture is my opinion. Its shows again how small and depandend we are as humanety against and on the forces of nature. ©️4:19
@jeffgold3091
@jeffgold3091 Жыл бұрын
the block island wind farm has been plagued by problems from the start and is the most expensive electricity in the US .
@dodiewallace41
@dodiewallace41 Жыл бұрын
Intermittent and reliable energy are not the same thing. Some W&S makes sense if there is enough firm, reliable power to insure stability. Too much raises costs and weakens infrastructure. W&S operate on top of reliable energy, not instead of reliable energy.
@gilgamecha
@gilgamecha Жыл бұрын
Uh oh, you are complicating the simplistic enthusiasm for renewables with awkward FACTS. 😁
@dodiewallace41
@dodiewallace41 Жыл бұрын
@@gilgamecha I hope so. We need to stop thinking that being called renewable matters at all. Unfortunately we have made the goal RE instead of reliable, affordable, low environmental impact. In reality RE is nothing but a misleading marketing term like all natural or chemical free.
@jebbo-c1l
@jebbo-c1l Жыл бұрын
offshore floating turbines are the future. Easy to install and move, wind speeds stronger and more consistent than at land
@adel19997
@adel19997 Жыл бұрын
The biggest challenge is the survival of migratory birds struck by the blades. Those giant machines & components have no use after it fails, piling up in TRASH FIELDS
@Kodakcompactdisc
@Kodakcompactdisc Жыл бұрын
Yes
@darkgalaxy5548
@darkgalaxy5548 Жыл бұрын
As long as the wind blows, they're great
@treeskier58
@treeskier58 Жыл бұрын
offshore power is 6 times as expensive as land based. That will kill the economy. Also, very open to sabatoge
@Fudgeis1337
@Fudgeis1337 Жыл бұрын
@@adel19997 85% of a modern turbine is recyclable. There are some projects being developed to make better use of the fibreglass also.
@YouGuessIGuess
@YouGuessIGuess Жыл бұрын
I wonder if wind farms in the Gulf of Mexico are feasible, or if the frequent hurricanes in that region make it a non-option. There's also the factor of the incredible number of variety of birds that fly across the Gulf every year.
@chwa7774
@chwa7774 Жыл бұрын
@niels lund Storms and hurricanes on the scale of the US are two different things.
@jeffgold3091
@jeffgold3091 Жыл бұрын
@niels lund hitting birds doesn’t bother wind turbines , you’re right . denmark’s electricity is among the most expensive in the world .
@anglosaxonmike8325
@anglosaxonmike8325 Жыл бұрын
@niels lund Yes they do, they shut them down in storms, everyone knows that.
@Anti-socialSocialClub
@Anti-socialSocialClub Жыл бұрын
There are magnitudes more birds that are killed by glass buildings and household cats than windmills. It's fake news
@russells9687
@russells9687 5 ай бұрын
Key problem with the Gulf is not very much or consistent wind, compared to the oceans. But the giant fossil fuel companies that already use big rigs to drill as much as six miles for oil and gas there might be able to engineer, host and maintain wind energy turbines across much of the Gulf at some point in the future.
@mikerock8177
@mikerock8177 Жыл бұрын
Nice but put a hundred tarawatts or more let's go green solar wind hydro and let's tap Yellowstone for geothermal
@jonevansauthor
@jonevansauthor Жыл бұрын
Of course, we don't have birds in Europe, largely because we installed wind farms. Utterly wiped out. It's kind of tragic. He can't use the data for European wind farms though, because of American exceptionalism. Their birds just aren't anything like ours. Alternatively, it could be house cats that are the real risk to birds. No-one should call themselves a journalist if they're going to put out this kind of negative nonsense without refuting such claims with readily available information and respectable sources.
@NashHinton
@NashHinton Жыл бұрын
Total nonsense. Birds have common sense to fly away from moving blades.
@NckBrktt
@NckBrktt Жыл бұрын
I hope they are hurricane proof. You can have too much wind.
@matthiasknutzen6061
@matthiasknutzen6061 10 ай бұрын
3.3 GW is the peak power, i like wind but come on that's just not interesting what matter is the yearly production and at what cost.
@tanujSE
@tanujSE Жыл бұрын
It's good if we have things prepared as marxist economics to my personal understanding comes after capitalism to turn every inch of its development to benefit the existence of labouring force and growing more with it
@zacharydavis4398
@zacharydavis4398 Жыл бұрын
🇺🇸🤙🏾
@jeffgold3091
@jeffgold3091 Жыл бұрын
two foreign companies using ships and materials made in europe ?
@jeffgold3091
@jeffgold3091 Жыл бұрын
crew transfer vessels are tiny compared to ships used for turbine construction
@dodiewallace41
@dodiewallace41 Жыл бұрын
What we really need is more clean, reliable nuclear power. Now we're seeing what happens when policymakers are influenced by activists, they get what they thought they wanted: a forced reduction in fossil fuel usage causing energy problems. This kind of action never ends well. We've spent decades wasting time and ra esources on dilute intermittent power sources while penalizing dense reliable sources, and we are now suffering energy shortages and seriously weakened infrastructure due to our obsession with RE. The pain and suffering of this crisis - a crisis of not enough reliable electricity - is happening right now. As usual the poorer parts of the world suffer the most as coal, oil and gas that was slated for them is now being diverted to wealthier countries. How can we talk about reducing emissions when wealthy countries are throwing their climate targets out the window to keep warm this winter? Like fossil fuels, nuclear can produce nation-scale electricity reliably year-round, regardless of time of day or season. Unlike fossil fuels it does so cleanly. if we are going to successfully decarbonize, energy must be secure and reliable first.
@MadnessMotorcycle
@MadnessMotorcycle Жыл бұрын
If offshore wind is such an underused resource, why does it require the US government to subsidize it? If the people in New York think that their electricity bills are high now, just wait until these unnecessary monstrosities go online.
@user-dr2pg8fk2i
@user-dr2pg8fk2i Жыл бұрын
73 acres? What a joke. Come to the Southeast and we can handle hundreds of acres. Plus everyone from the NE is moving here so we need the additional power.
@darkgalaxy5548
@darkgalaxy5548 Жыл бұрын
As long as the wind blows, they'll work fine.
@heinedenmark
@heinedenmark Жыл бұрын
Do you think there is a possibility for the wind to stop blowing?
@darkgalaxy5548
@darkgalaxy5548 Жыл бұрын
@@heinedenmark I understand it happens quit a bit. Sort of like the sun doesn't shine all the time.
@heinedenmark
@heinedenmark Жыл бұрын
@@darkgalaxy5548 You think people that are developing the future energy infrastructure are not aware of this 'problem'?
@darkgalaxy5548
@darkgalaxy5548 Жыл бұрын
@@heinedenmark I think a lot of people are looking for a magical solution that doesn't exist. Sure wind & solar should be in the mix, but there's a reason they're known as intermittent or unreliable energy sources.
@heinedenmark
@heinedenmark Жыл бұрын
@@darkgalaxy5548 That's why you built an overcapacity. So that you can make hydrogen, when it's very windy, for use when it's not so windy. We(Denmark) quite often produce more wind energy than we can use. And we're gonna build a lot more still.
@Larsbor
@Larsbor Жыл бұрын
My god landing in new york will feel like landing in copenhagen ..
@jeffgold3091
@jeffgold3091 Жыл бұрын
big oil becomes big wind . meet the new boss
@rs-bi8yf
@rs-bi8yf Жыл бұрын
How long will they last , What is the impact to marine life , Will they cost more to maintain than they produce , ARE they just another plastic bottle and bag mess ?
@jeffgold3091
@jeffgold3091 Жыл бұрын
tax credits means US taxpayer dollars going into norwegian wind farmers pockets . the money has to come from somewhere
@chuckwhite3033
@chuckwhite3033 Жыл бұрын
The problem is that fossil fuels are required to build the infrastructure, perform maintenance, provide raw materials for structural elements, etc. You need fossil fuels to ship materials around to support these wind turbines and off shore facilities.
@bl5752
@bl5752 Жыл бұрын
Birds Vs the survival of humanity by limiting climate change. Is it really that hard of a choice? We don't have time to look at the long term because we wasted the last 30yrs doing nothing.
@namzarf
@namzarf Жыл бұрын
"The biggest challenges (are) time..." No, the biggest challenge is getting the Republican party---and their friends on the oil industry---to stop impeding progress.
@shaunluckham1418
@shaunluckham1418 Жыл бұрын
The biggest challenge is time seeing as global temperatures according to NOAA have been declining since 2015. So once the climate change crisis is shown as a failed theory the use of fossil fuels will return.
@julianshepherd2038
@julianshepherd2038 Жыл бұрын
@@shaunluckham1418 fossil fuel is expensive. On shore wind is the cheapest and offshore catching up. No one is going to want a fithy noise unreliable car when they can have electric one. We ain't going back to 1972 technology
@shaunluckham1418
@shaunluckham1418 Жыл бұрын
@@julianshepherd2038 what you choose to drive is up to you. As there is no need to change what I use I’ll continue to use a petrol engined car. As there is no crisis, no need for net zero and I don’t want to buy an expensive virtue signal. Which figures say wind is cheaper per gigawatt? Would there be a reason that site wants to skew the data?
@popcornfilms1
@popcornfilms1 Жыл бұрын
@@shaunluckham1418 climate change isn’t the same as ‘global warming’ , it’s simply a change in climate.
@shaunluckham1418
@shaunluckham1418 Жыл бұрын
@@popcornfilms1 correct but the mantra is GHGs produced by humans causes temperature rise. This is incorrect. Therefore Net Zero is a waste of time and tax payers money. The whole Paris agreement is all about limiting temperature rise, all of agenda 2030 is the same core belief. Now that the empirical data shows the temperature is not linked to atmospheric CO2 all these schemes should be reevaluated.
@Seawithinyou
@Seawithinyou 10 ай бұрын
And what happens to these end of life using for these Wind Turbines? 🧐
@falsemcnuggethope
@falsemcnuggethope Ай бұрын
Yeah, whatabout it? And whatabout the end of life oil rigs and processing plants?
@douglasengle2704
@douglasengle2704 16 күн бұрын
Wind and solar generated electricity are now mature technologies with few cost savings left to exploit and many times the cost of power from a well run public power grid. They don't belong on the public power grid. People selling power from battery storage is grid quality power available on demand and useful for backup and peaking loads. Wind turbine generated electricity is not dispatchable electricity and has to be conditioned and backed up by dispatchable electricity. It is useful for saving other fuels, but the high cost of implementation and maintenance has meant onshore wind turbines once rate payers start paying for them in the USA have always cost residential electric rates to go up significantly when electricity should be going down in real costs with improving technology and efficiency. Offshore wind turbines cost more than twice the cost of onshore wind turbines. People trying to scam the public make use of Climate Change misleading marketing to help their cause. Global warming has been dead at about 1°C since 1992 with no known cause in 2024 after huge ongoing efforts to find a cause. It is high school science all the greenhouse radiant energy from the earth is completely absorbed by greenhouse gasses in earth's greenhouse effect within 20 meters of the surface. Its further heat transfer is by convection. Earth's greenhouse effect is a primary example of system always in saturation from the strong greenhouse gas water vapor where other greenhouse gas can not change its overall effect. On average CO2 has a 1/4 of 1% share in earth's greenhouse effect. Over 90% of plants on earth today, C3 plants, evolved over 70 million years ago in CO2 levels ten times what they are today and struggle at the low CO2 levels of today. CO2 levels about three times those of todays at 1200 ppm CO2 would greatly invigorate C3 plants. That is what is done in tomato greenhouses.
@thomasciarlariello3228
@thomasciarlariello3228 Жыл бұрын
Offshore windmills are a scheme for navies to restrict shipping lanes and that is why it is important to have Dynairships of Robert L. Morrison's patented lighter than air solids sealed in metal foil having nuclear powered jet engines to transport freight along with Mary Kenney's patents for of louver covered ground based ducted fans referenced from Marshal J Corbett of Guman Patent for of cold plasma aerial highways depicte4d in of film "NeoSeoul 211 44 A.D.." Imperial Japan had sulfur fueled steam filled airships and deuterium fueled rocket propelled gliders above terror of Roosevelt's Allied aggression until Fall of 1945 when Allies forced Japan to have rail transit and solar agricultural farms.
@anglosaxonmike8325
@anglosaxonmike8325 Жыл бұрын
When you consider that a turbine never saves as much co2 as it takes to build and service them, and this cold calm week they produced almost nothing, you have to wonder at the IQ of their supporters. 10 days now in the UK and hardly any wind, and it's freezing cold. Utterly useless.
@matthiasknutzen6061
@matthiasknutzen6061 10 ай бұрын
Ner zero 2030 is just never gonna happen
@randynoble3336
@randynoble3336 Жыл бұрын
What happens when the wind is not blowing??? Then they are useless along with all renewables lol
@bm8641
@bm8641 Жыл бұрын
Out at sea there are no time intervals without wind. None. Zilch.
@matthewdowning6009
@matthewdowning6009 Жыл бұрын
What happens when the wind is blowing?
@NashHinton
@NashHinton Жыл бұрын
We have batteries.
@RumblesBettr
@RumblesBettr Жыл бұрын
F green energy v8s for ever! Let the world burn
@knightsnight5929
@knightsnight5929 Жыл бұрын
Spoken like a true child
@cubsfan910
@cubsfan910 Жыл бұрын
And the coal, oil, or nuke plant will also have to run (continually) to be able to instantly back up the wind farm and smooth out it's cycle of wind/no wind. Add to that, windmills require extensive mining powered by fossil fuels, resulting in a non-recycleable turbine blade (which also requires transportation by diesel train/truck). We will actually be using more fossil fuel, not less.
@franzjoseph1837
@franzjoseph1837 Жыл бұрын
lol no, In principle, mining could use energy recovery, renewable energy, and carbon capture to supplement, replace, or mitigate the impacts of fossil fuel use. However, a combination of renewable-energy technologies would be required. Iron ore production with renewable resources such as solar, wind, and geothermal could produce electricity. Since no change in the mining processing system would be required, renewable electricity could be applied to existing, as well as to new, mining sites.
@gavinnorthants
@gavinnorthants Жыл бұрын
Just watched on SKY News in the UK that they have installed a load of new batteries at Didcot power station, near Oxford. This is a gas-fired power station so not green. But allows the batteries to even the power load, so the power station has time to increase and decrease power output. So does not need to run continuously, as can turn on and off a number of gas steam turbines.
@cubsfan910
@cubsfan910 Жыл бұрын
@@franzjoseph1837 You've never operated a mine, have you? As a frequent investor in mining, I can tell u your notions will not work.
@franzjoseph1837
@franzjoseph1837 Жыл бұрын
@@cubsfan910 lol it is literally being done today so idk bruv
@louistan7560
@louistan7560 Жыл бұрын
No one is going to be hooked by this story. All know the future is still with fossil fuel, and its total replacement is impossible.
@Robert-ug5hx
@Robert-ug5hx Жыл бұрын
Delusional
@franzjoseph1837
@franzjoseph1837 Жыл бұрын
who you?
@KP-yq8id
@KP-yq8id Жыл бұрын
I had baked beans for lunch. I e got some spare wind for ya 💨
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