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Find Out Why You Should Never Put a Junk Oil Filter on Your Cummins

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CUTTERUP ROB

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@lwilde0422
@lwilde0422 2 жыл бұрын
The guys who click on this video already run good filters and enjoy learning more about mechanical elements. The people who need to see this video most, will never click on this. It is the conundrum of life
@CUTTERUPROB
@CUTTERUPROB 2 жыл бұрын
true story
@joelnrs
@joelnrs Жыл бұрын
Welll said
@martinschulz9381
@martinschulz9381 7 ай бұрын
I never understood the foolishness of buying expensive diesels and then buying bargain filters to save money. Working in the field for many years I noticed by far the most common filters on commercial engines was Baldwin and second was Napa gold/Wix (oil, fuel, and air) Good video.
@jarodgreene0351
@jarodgreene0351 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely solid knowledge. I've compared filters that came off my truck. If you cut the filter media off in a neat manner and unroll it and measure, you'll see that you actually get more media in the better brands. In 2 of mine that cut open the difference was by more than 11 inches in length at the same height. As you said the Napa (wix) filter is restricted. My truck would cold start at over 100 psi of oil pressure on my mechanical guage and cruise at about 85psi. I changed filters and now I see about 55-60 at cruise, 39-40 at idle.
@CUTTERUPROB
@CUTTERUPROB 3 жыл бұрын
Ya I have cut them apart like that before. It's something that get over looked a lot. I will have to save some filters up and do a video on measuring the element
@carlosmonzon9272
@carlosmonzon9272 Жыл бұрын
Great video Rob, I really enjoyed and understood your explanation of what is considered a good or bad quality oil filter and why. Hopefully you made a similar video for fuel filters as well. Keep up the great work.
@thedavesofourlives1
@thedavesofourlives1 Жыл бұрын
I came here also to request one on fuel filters. For example, I'm wondering if the $30 chinese 1R-0749 filters are anything close to actual CAT brand/baldwin.
@mewithouttherandomnumbers
@mewithouttherandomnumbers 2 жыл бұрын
Fleetguard is the filter division of Cummins. I heard they make a lot of Mopar filters too, as well as several other private labels. Those Pennzoil and Fram filters might use the old cellulose filter media that people started making like a hundred years ago but nowadays is only in a few maker's budget models.
@rickbrown7067
@rickbrown7067 3 жыл бұрын
Great job describing about the inlet holes in the base plates. Just bought some Baldwin filters for 8.00 US on Amazon. I am using the Donaldson Blue filters now, good filters also. Thanks for the video.
@CUTTERUPROB
@CUTTERUPROB 3 жыл бұрын
🙏
@ChrisTheMobileMechanic
@ChrisTheMobileMechanic 2 жыл бұрын
What's the best way to find the part# for the oil filter for a 2000 isx 450?
@MichaelM-to4sg
@MichaelM-to4sg Жыл бұрын
I agree build quality, such as bonding of media to end plates, is a factor. The top plate port size and quantity, too is important. The biggest factor however is quality of media. It’s less about pleat density and more about filtration. All oil filter media, at least of decent quality, has an SAE rating for filter efficiency. They will all provide an “absolute rating”, which defines the largest particles allowed to flow through media. They then will publish a 95+% efficiency rating which can vary, though it will all be at least 95%. That Baldwin, which is cellulose media, is 30 micron absolute, 12 micron @95%, per Baldwin. Fleetguard, also a cellulose media, is 40 micron absolute 15 micron @95%. Wix I do not have the specs but it’s also a cellulose media and I believe similar spec to Baldwin. My personal favorite is Donaldson, though they make 2 versions for Cummins 5.9/6.7L. The White line is cellulose media, 40 micron absolute and 20 microns @99%. The Donaldson Blue line is synthetic media; 30 micron absolute and 15 micron @99%. I’d suggest the Donaldson Blue as the best oil filter available but the Baldwin is a good 2nd option. If you’re using Fram, Pennzoil, Purilator or similar, I’m betting truck is a lease 🤣
@brentmcmahon8188
@brentmcmahon8188 Жыл бұрын
When I bought my 92 Dodge with 12 valve . I got a notice from cummins or Dodge said do not use Fram filters and other cheap filters they will come a part and clog your oil galleries and that was in 92 !!
@reeksreeks3017
@reeksreeks3017 Жыл бұрын
That would be ph3976 I think since then it’s ph3976A and the A means adjusted. So whatever the problem was fixed. Still private diesel truck companies still recommend doing short OCI’s when running that filter and it’s not a bad filter. It’s just not for the long-haul like some other filters.
@dimedriver
@dimedriver 11 ай бұрын
Have you tought of doing a video comparing the donaldson blue 15micron(DBL7349) filter to the mopar/fleetguard and baldwin. Maybe run them on the same engine/oil and get coldstart and hot presure numbers.
@CUTTERUPROB
@CUTTERUPROB 11 ай бұрын
That’s a good idea
@123suzukisamurai
@123suzukisamurai 2 ай бұрын
Excellent. I use Baldwin for everything if possible
@brentmcmahon8188
@brentmcmahon8188 Жыл бұрын
The Balwin is a 5 micron in factory location and before that one I use a big Baldwin is a water separator with a drain and past that one I have a Cat filter is a 2 micron filter and it seams to work great .
@walterk1221
@walterk1221 Жыл бұрын
You are speaking about fuel filters.
@jimkillen1065
@jimkillen1065 3 жыл бұрын
Sir I worked for a utility company that had a diesel power plant . It has since been dismantled but it had some really big diesel engines there and I think the filters were Baldwin . I pretty sure that napa is wix also . I use lube finer filters on my truck and so far no problems that I know of . Many years ago I was told that not to use a certain filter because it came apart and stopped up the cooling jets . But that was a long time ago so that was surely fixed
@CUTTERUPROB
@CUTTERUPROB 3 жыл бұрын
I get the see filters kill engine a monthly basis. sad that it still happen but it does. I tell guys what i know and if they listen then perfect. if not i just hope they don't have an issue
@dalefine3329
@dalefine3329 3 жыл бұрын
I like what I am seeing! I will make sure to get a good quality oil filter! I did not see any title on your youtube and wondered if you already discussed which diesel oil brand will be better similar to this video? Many thanks for sharing your knowledge!
@CUTTERUPROB
@CUTTERUPROB 3 жыл бұрын
thanks, i am going to do some video's on oil. just haven't got to them on the list
@tone569
@tone569 9 ай бұрын
I ues danaldson blue filters for my 5.9 cummins they work great
@puppygadget3189
@puppygadget3189 3 жыл бұрын
Found Baldwin the best and buy in bulk on Amazon for great pricing.
@CUTTERUPROB
@CUTTERUPROB 3 жыл бұрын
Great tip!
@repairvehicle
@repairvehicle 2 жыл бұрын
Amazon sells bulk cheap filters ,because they are not genuine.
@puppygadget3189
@puppygadget3189 2 жыл бұрын
@@repairvehicle Really -How do you know this?
@repairvehicle
@repairvehicle 2 жыл бұрын
@Jason , those major companies don't sell their filters on Amazon. These are fake filters sold by random companies that do not buy from factory direct. Try to get a proof from these companies that their products not fake, you would not be able to. I already tried and got responses that they have no proof that their products real. I get emails from 100s of companies that sell their products on Amazon asking me for fake review to posted on Amazon. Also, a lot of major companies give permission to other companies to use their names on fake products. Buy directly from factory or reputable resellers, not Amazon.
@grego10r
@grego10r 2 жыл бұрын
i use Baldwin on my 13 6.7 and she perfect for years
@Wubbajan
@Wubbajan Жыл бұрын
Baldwins/Parker makes filters for fleetguard, car quest, hastings, John deer, Toro, wix, donaldson, fram, and several others.
@reitzy69
@reitzy69 2 жыл бұрын
Baldwin is Hastings...from what i was told Baldwin bought out Hastings
@sugargoldy
@sugargoldy 3 жыл бұрын
Very good video I use Mopar ones or fleetguard. Wait till you see what Wix is doing to their filters-now a 51085 old ones had six holes in them now the new style only has four
@CUTTERUPROB
@CUTTERUPROB 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds about right. Cheap junk
@ishdhillon4145
@ishdhillon4145 2 жыл бұрын
We’ll yeah the baldwins usually have finer micron rating so obviously needs more oil pushed through but just as restrictive
@Nathangies
@Nathangies 2 жыл бұрын
Best oil filter for Cummins is Donaldson dbl7349 99% filtration at 15micron Second is fleetgaurd 16035 filter which is 20 micron I believe
@CUTTERUPROB
@CUTTERUPROB 2 жыл бұрын
as long as you replace them best they go on flow bypass yep
@repairvehicle
@repairvehicle 2 жыл бұрын
At oil change intervals Donaldson and fleetguard says to replace them?
@farva75089
@farva75089 Жыл бұрын
HOW BOUT THE FLEETGUARD 9028 VENTURI STYLE???
@mariomartin1981
@mariomartin1981 3 жыл бұрын
Fleetguard is all i have ever put on my Cummins,,never had an issue and i have 2 truck that went over 1 million KM's and still running,my 96 is still going,my 2002 6 speed is still going,my 07 Megacab,,well engine is still great,,injectors not so much,,
@CUTTERUPROB
@CUTTERUPROB 3 жыл бұрын
👍
@repairvehicle
@repairvehicle 2 жыл бұрын
Fleetguard has two flavors filters, garbage and quality.
@GorillaWithThemGuns
@GorillaWithThemGuns Жыл бұрын
@@repairvehicle so what do you run wise guy ? Baldwin looks good on my red wagon
@repairvehicle
@repairvehicle Жыл бұрын
@@GorillaWithThemGuns I use 21 century technology oil filters, best stuff money can buy. Synthetic oil filters with 20 microns ratings or less. I do not own 50s car to run 50s oil filter technology.
@123suzukisamurai
@123suzukisamurai Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this
@UnknownProductions0
@UnknownProductions0 Жыл бұрын
i run LF9028 filters in my truck
@farva75089
@farva75089 Жыл бұрын
ANY ISSUES? OIL PRESSURE MAINTAINS STEAD LIKE USE OF STANDARD FILTERS?
@UnknownProductions0
@UnknownProductions0 Жыл бұрын
@@farva75089 no issue
@clydeespinosa6286
@clydeespinosa6286 3 жыл бұрын
I just bought Hastings for the d max I feel better after watching
@CUTTERUPROB
@CUTTERUPROB 3 жыл бұрын
hastings are a good filters
@REWYRED
@REWYRED 2 жыл бұрын
We have a couple QSK-60 Cummins that are part of a generator set and we were told to use Fleetguard and fleetguard only or the warranty will be void. That being said I only use the Mopar brand filters on my truck which I will assume are Fleetguard. I was given a WIX filter by someone but dont think I want to use it at all
@CUTTERUPROB
@CUTTERUPROB 2 жыл бұрын
fleet guard filter is filters and are not expensive
@garybrown9719
@garybrown9719 3 жыл бұрын
Yes napa are wix mostly but not all
@CUTTERUPROB
@CUTTERUPROB 3 жыл бұрын
👌
@knarfster
@knarfster 2 жыл бұрын
Mopar material is yellow if you cut open and unused one. Not a newer synthetic material.
@CUTTERUPROB
@CUTTERUPROB 2 жыл бұрын
That I didn’t know
@farva75089
@farva75089 Жыл бұрын
@@CUTTERUPROB HES RIGHT
@carlosmonzon9272
@carlosmonzon9272 Жыл бұрын
So would the Mopar still be considered a good quality filter? The reason l ask is l just completed my first oil change on my brand new ram 3500 with 8,500 miles and replaced it with another new mopar filter like it came with from the factory. After watching Robs video, l will considering using Baldwin filters filters moving forward.
@jeffwatson8862
@jeffwatson8862 4 ай бұрын
Why do you filter testers never look at the fleetgard stratapore filters? We already know that fleetgard makes the mopar filter that you buy at walmart. Stratapore is top shelf and if you dont know, Fleetgard is the filtration division of Cummins. Cant go wrong here.
@eternalbeing3339
@eternalbeing3339 Жыл бұрын
What is your opinion on the lifetime reusable hubb fillters? They claim that it increases oil pressure.
@CUTTERUPROB
@CUTTERUPROB Жыл бұрын
The idea is good. But most people are to lazy to clean something like that.
@cdpperformance2613
@cdpperformance2613 3 жыл бұрын
I see your good on Cummins engine’s I’m doing the head gasket repair 12v Cummins and done the head studs when I was on my Final torque one of them made a piping noise do you know if that’s normal? All torque down right and holding and bolt holes were chased and cleaned and air ran into each hole..
@CUTTERUPROB
@CUTTERUPROB 3 жыл бұрын
Ya sometimes you will get that. Make sure you have all the threads top and bottom are lubed well and the washer. Loosen that one and re torque
@martindao3820
@martindao3820 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome thanks so much for sharing Oil filter Really important thanks again
@CUTTERUPROB
@CUTTERUPROB 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
@truthhurts2149
@truthhurts2149 2 жыл бұрын
I'm going to go with Baldwin 3 pack for 25 on Amazon. Was thinking about the supposed best Donaldson but just not as good of a deal. Running a mobile 1 now on the 24v Cummins. Wonder how it stacks up.
@CUTTERUPROB
@CUTTERUPROB 2 жыл бұрын
both filters are a great choice
@mattwitkowski6329
@mattwitkowski6329 Ай бұрын
Donaldson or Baldwin for me.
@penskib1975
@penskib1975 Жыл бұрын
I never used a fram after i saw the elements stuck together with sticky tape on a element type canister filter.just not worth it.rubbish
@ishdhillon4145
@ishdhillon4145 2 жыл бұрын
The holes are based on micron rating
@ronladuke7235
@ronladuke7235 Жыл бұрын
I can’t believe someone would try to save 5 bucks on something that protects they’re 10 thousand dollar engine?? Fleet guard, Donaldson, Baldwin, Wix are all reasonably priced and are good quality and most have a premium offering for a couple bucks more?
@clydeespinosa6286
@clydeespinosa6286 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks great information
@CUTTERUPROB
@CUTTERUPROB 3 жыл бұрын
🙏
@Dieselpwr
@Dieselpwr Жыл бұрын
My mopar filter saved my bacon nothing got past it when I made a boo boo on my new 25k engine i thought it was a good idea to modify the pump to prime it not a good idea it ate itself
@BRWfilms
@BRWfilms 2 жыл бұрын
Got any for fuel filters? Specifically for running w90 oil On my second tank now
@CUTTERUPROB
@CUTTERUPROB 2 жыл бұрын
I will be doing some videos in the up coming weeks in it. I just hav wot get the s10 I am working on done first
@BRWfilms
@BRWfilms 2 жыл бұрын
@@CUTTERUPROB cool sounds good. I'm trying to learn more about reliability and fuel mileage mods for the 12 valve specially focused on applications running w90. You have a lot of great content pertaining to 12 valves and waste oil already. Appreciate your work
@john79da
@john79da Жыл бұрын
Awesome video, I have a 5.0 Cummins. I run AMMS oil signature series diesel oil. I'm using a Fleetgaurd LF17517. Would you run that filter if it was your truck? Is a better option out there? I'm thinking WIX but I havn't found any thing that would suggest Wix is better than Fleetguard
@CUTTERUPROB
@CUTTERUPROB 11 ай бұрын
All good filters. But I would put a bypass filter on it. Those engines like to eat themselves for some reason. Never really got into trying to figure out why
@john79da
@john79da 11 ай бұрын
@@CUTTERUPROB everything I've found is they like to chew up the crank and main bearings if you try to go much past 5k on an oil change. I'm thinking it must have something to do with the emissions on this engine. I'm running AMMS oil signature, I change it every 3k and send a sample to Blackstone labs. So far everything looks good at 54k miles
@CUTTERUPROB
@CUTTERUPROB 11 ай бұрын
@@john79da ya I have seen a couple apart all with main bearing issues. Oil changes do seem to make a difference that’s way I would do the bypass filter. Try to keep that oil as clean as you can
@john79da
@john79da 11 ай бұрын
@@CUTTERUPROB absolutely clean oil is key to these 5.0 Cummins engines. Also people by these trucks and treat them as if they are a 1 ton truck, they are not. They can tow more than a 1/2 ton truck yes absolutely but you can not hook 20,000 pounds to them and try and pull it up a mountain. You will break the crankshaft in half. With that said they don't like a big tune either, if you need 400hp then you should have bought a 6.7 Cummins plan and simple
@brucemitchell8642
@brucemitchell8642 2 жыл бұрын
time for me to cut open a luberfiner filter and see what is inside.
@jjames5928
@jjames5928 3 жыл бұрын
So , im assuming this is for 5.9/6.7 cummins , can you run Cat filters on a cummins , if so what part #
@CUTTERUPROB
@CUTTERUPROB 3 жыл бұрын
likely could, i have no idea on the part number
@repairvehicle
@repairvehicle 2 жыл бұрын
Cat has no advantage over other quality filters
@jjames5928
@jjames5928 2 жыл бұрын
@@repairvehicle cool 😎
@beastly91wb
@beastly91wb 2 жыл бұрын
What oil do you recommend for a 2021 Cummins?
@CUTTERUPROB
@CUTTERUPROB 2 жыл бұрын
Any high oil is fine. But I do recommend running a oil additive like fr3 from hotshots secrets ( after break in )
@kellymichael7362
@kellymichael7362 2 жыл бұрын
It's been discovered that the new Cummins engine needs to run T5 10W-30 Synthetic Blend (NOT 15W-40 or 5W-40) due to the increased amount of port holes, and smaller in size, in the block. I had a buddy of mine find this out the hard way. His motor blew up. According to him, the dealership informed him after it was too late. But research it. My info is more or less hear-say. Definitely talk to your dealership.
@walterk1221
@walterk1221 Жыл бұрын
​@@kellymichael7362 I was at the CMEP (Columbus Midrange Engine Plant) in 2019 and Cummins engineering says 5W-40 is fine so long as it meets CK-4 API. 10W-30 is too low of viscosity, IMAO.
@kellymichael7362
@kellymichael7362 Жыл бұрын
@@walterk1221 I agree about the 10w30. As mentioned, my info was 2nd hand. I haven’t personally talked to anyone about this. You’re the first. My engine is a ‘12 model, so it’s not a concern for me at this time. I use 5w40 in it like I do in my 12v. But it’s good to hear from somebody “in the know”. Thnx
@walterk1221
@walterk1221 Жыл бұрын
@@kellymichael7362 you are very welcome. And I will also state that 10W-30 is the "recommended" viscosity per the owner manual. I live in southern Nevada and prefer the 5W-40 due to our summer temperatures. That was why I asked the question about viscosity.
@Turbokrankenwagon
@Turbokrankenwagon 3 жыл бұрын
👍🏻
@CUTTERUPROB
@CUTTERUPROB 3 жыл бұрын
thanks dude
@user-do4ti9wb1s
@user-do4ti9wb1s 3 жыл бұрын
WHY NO OIL BYPASS VALVE IN THOSE FILTERS?
@CUTTERUPROB
@CUTTERUPROB 3 жыл бұрын
Bypass is built into the oil filter housing
@apolinarponce4506
@apolinarponce4506 3 жыл бұрын
Yr missing a cat filter
@CUTTERUPROB
@CUTTERUPROB 3 жыл бұрын
i didn't have one but i will do a filter on one, thats a good idea
@reitzy69
@reitzy69 2 жыл бұрын
Ohh and fram are made in Israel...sooo yeah say no more haha cheap
@justuswithrandomstuff8250
@justuswithrandomstuff8250 2 жыл бұрын
Mate, when you make a video, can you get to the point and not spam the crap out of it with ads please. I understand you can do what you want, it’s your video channel, but I just want to learn the info, not have all the in between s of you u loading a box and then getting smashed with ads. Cheers
@CUTTERUPROB
@CUTTERUPROB 2 жыл бұрын
It’s you tube puts the ads in the videos. The little bit of money I make from the ads does help pay for a some of stuff I use in the video’s.
@ebutuoyebutouy
@ebutuoyebutouy 2 жыл бұрын
U can buy a tube subscription that allows u to avoid the ads. U entitled?
@mattleonard5268
@mattleonard5268 3 жыл бұрын
Have you had any experience with napa/wix (5)7620XE Extra Efficiency oil filters? I think that’s what I’m gonna run on my cummins when I start driving it regularly.
@CUTTERUPROB
@CUTTERUPROB 3 жыл бұрын
I haven’t but the better the filter you can run better off you are
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