Thanks for this one, Bill. I like seeing stuff in this price range, although I know it sort of limits what you can talk about in regard to super "interesting" examples.
@watchartsci4 жыл бұрын
Hey Username ... it's even a bigger challenge and more fun to find "interesting" watches among the more affordable. Diamonds in the coal mine... Take care, Bill
@blueshirtbuddah16654 жыл бұрын
Great video as always Bill. The watches you showed are some prime examples of the deals that can be found if you look hard enough and if your wallet is big enough. Thanks again Bill.
@watchartsci4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bruce! If collectors just broaden their horizons, they will find lots of deals ... a narrow focus and high prices go together! Take care, Bill😷
@kaekayyy25544 жыл бұрын
So glad to see that Daniel Roth... Idk about anyone else but that case design and Breguet like dial just does it for me.
@watchartsci4 жыл бұрын
That is definitely a way to get a top-notch watchmaker for a reasonable price. Take care, Bill😷
@okihaveaname4 жыл бұрын
I ❤ Longines & FC for making affordable complications. 👏
@watchartsci4 жыл бұрын
Which ones do you have or are planning on getting, Pim? Take care, Bill😷
@okihaveaname4 жыл бұрын
@@watchartsci annual calendar and moonphase.
@watchartsci4 жыл бұрын
@@okihaveaname Two nice ones! Take care, Bill😷
@j.burgess44594 жыл бұрын
Happy is the man who bought an F.P.Journe Chronomètre à Résonance before someone strapped the prices into an ejector-seat and pulled the trigger! It's a truly magnificent watch, one which will surely become a real classic in watchmaking history . But for many of us it would now be stretching the watch-collection-budget up towards breaking point to get one - alas!
@watchartsci4 жыл бұрын
Indeed Jay! That's why I'd rather be lucky than smart! But here's the thing: had it taken a lead life boat to Davey Jone's Locker, I'd still have a great watch because the quality of the watch will not change (...well if I don't drop it down the garbage disposal..). Those who hitch their value of a watch to the resale value; never get much horology. Take care and be safe, Bill 😷
@j.burgess44594 жыл бұрын
@@watchartsci I guess the only downside to a complicated F.P.Journe. is the servicing cost? I have heard that those guys sting like hornets! I know Patek are going to take me for a grand, more or less, every 5 years for my 5296G. I can just about swallow that - especially as I'm considering selling all my Rolex and Omega, and concentrating on Patek, Blancpain, and Jaeger-LeCoultre. (The older I get, the more I favour quality over quantity!)
@johnbradshaw59003 жыл бұрын
Great video again! I only recently discovered your channel and find your well informed and balanced views truly informative and enjoyable. I am not much of a collector like real watch collectors but I have a collection of spaces watches (the mandatory Speedmaster Professional, Fortis Official Cosmonaut, Seiko Pogue and some old Soviet watches) and dive watches. I am a recreational (not serious) diver but don't use my watches for diving (I always use the digital G Shock Frogman for that) but just like dive watches. My office watch is a Muhl Glaschutte teutonia sport ii ks on strap which exists somewhere between dress watch and tool watch in not really being either. My personal opinion is that they key is to collect watches you really like or which you have a connection with. I am not an inverse snob and love many expensive watches (though my own watches top out at the Speedmaster Professional and Tudor Pelagos which many watch people would see as not much above entry level) but I also take great pleasure from my cheap Vostok Amphibia. One of the nice things about watches is it doesn't have to be that expensive if you find your own niche and look at watches just as watches or as an extension of another hobby. Great work with all your videos!
@watchartsci3 жыл бұрын
Hi John, I would rather find an affordable watch by a talented watchmaker than an expensive watch that I and most of our subscribers could not afford. The fun of watch collection for me is to find those gems where the general herd of collectors doesn't know enough to look. The Speedy Pro and Pelagos are very cool watches; especially the hand-wound real moon watch. Take care and stay safe, Bill 😷
@ffa51534 жыл бұрын
Thx Bill, your picks are to the point _ as usual. I often considered the Perpetual Tourbillon but never pulled the trigger. Lower end tourbillons are often large and the one by Seagull used in the Perpetual takes up about 30% of the watch, giving it right way. Which then begs the question, if the quest for buying a tourbillon is to own a piece of high end jewelry, then does such a compromise makes sense?
@watchartsci4 жыл бұрын
Very little in our hobby, Fadi, makes sense. We're watch collectors! We don't have to make sense except to ourselves.😉 Take care, Bill
@ffa51534 жыл бұрын
Well said 😀😀😀 Perhaps Horage would be a consideration one day. For now I have to finish the negotiation on a Speake-Marin. Thx Bill.
@watchartsci4 жыл бұрын
Speake-Marin is an excellent choice. Good luck on the negotiation and let us know how it turns out. Take care, Bill😷
@davidhastoomanyinterests63614 жыл бұрын
I still can not believe how good Seiko 5s are... i inhereted one from my grandad from 1969 and it still keeps perfect time.
@watchartsci4 жыл бұрын
Yes, excellent tool watches, David, and my '5 embarrasses my HH watches with it's performance. Take care and be safe, Bill 😷
@johnlorenze32224 жыл бұрын
I bought the SK809 a few months ago. My first automatic. Now I'm hooked. Waiting for my San Martin diver now. Next, probably a chronograph. Help. I can't stop.
@watchartsci4 жыл бұрын
Hey John, lots of tempting watches out there. It gets worse ... on your bank account. Enjoy your San Martin diver! Take care, Bill
@davidcallan78444 жыл бұрын
For the inexpensive sports selection, Jomashop has skx models available for $299. JDM versions, in house seiko. Cult classic👍👍
@watchartsci4 жыл бұрын
Hey David, a watch doesn't have to be expensive to be fun. Take care, Bill
@iosepho4 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much Bill. Awesome video! Kind regards from Mexico
@watchartsci4 жыл бұрын
Por nada Iosepho! My pleasure! Take care, Bill
@AbdulRWatches4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bill for the great video, i think Nomos is an awesome watch for an office and everyday watch, I have the Club Campus and very happy with it. I think also Sinn should be on the list, their 104 line is one of the best value for money sports watches, over-engineered, and very clean design. I think also Fortis makes great diver and pilots watches, and they are very well priced as well. The IWC perpetual calendars are dirt cheap at the moment, the Davinci line under 5k and the golden PC pilot is for around 5k on chrono24. I also wish to get a Remontoir watch but there is no way with the current prices :D
@watchartsci4 жыл бұрын
I only had room for 1 watch per feature (2 in a few places) and while Sinn is ok, I'm not sure about Fortis, even though you're right about their price. IWC still makes it difficult to know what you're paying for ... wish they'd reveal all of the movement bases in their watches... Take care, Bill
@Memovox4 жыл бұрын
Nice one, Bill. I always recommend Junghans Max Bill or Georg Jensen by Koppel as an alternative to Nomos. I see them as the original design as opposed to Nomos. -And I guess there's something that triggers my horological rage/pretentiousness from the sleek marketing machine by Nomos.. lol.
@watchartsci4 жыл бұрын
So that's it 451...they're jumping on horological rage! (As you well know, I have no problem with pretentiousness!). Take care, Bill
@MrRKR67824 жыл бұрын
Some really nice GMT/World Time/Dual Time options Bill. Enjoyed this one. 👍
@watchartsci4 жыл бұрын
Thanks GMT Master!👍 I'm still thinking about a World Timer for my own collection ... Take care, Bill😷
@southfloridaarcheryguy1143 жыл бұрын
I believe an office watch MUST have a date. I always need to know the date at work. And for the low end office watch, I’d be looking at Seiko and Tissot before the dateless Nomos. Just my two cents…….
@watchartsci3 жыл бұрын
That's a good point Archer ... but I'm good with the date on my iPhone that I use to correctly set my beloved mechanical watches. Take care, bill
@dominickcolasanto65824 жыл бұрын
Hello Bill, Interesting picks great video Thanks!
@watchartsci4 жыл бұрын
My pleasure Dominick! Glad you liked it. Take care, Bill
@tippykaffu40474 жыл бұрын
Bill, I'd put Yema on the list. They have interesting quality compared to other dive watches. It is my favorite dive watch under $2000 I'm saving money for one of the watches in this video btw and I think you can guess it correctly.
@watchartsci4 жыл бұрын
Yes, Tippy, the Yema would be a great example of a Sports Watch ... diver in particular. Saving for the Travel Time? or the Chronograph? Let me know. Take care, Bill
@tippykaffu40474 жыл бұрын
@@watchartsci Time only
@smartalix19994 жыл бұрын
Hey Bill, the FC perpetual calendar is available in steel, at least here.
@watchartsci4 жыл бұрын
Hi Alix, I should have used that as an example. My one beef with FC is that they use plating; otherwise, they're fine. Thanks for the tip. Take care, Bill😷
@robertocarrillo99194 жыл бұрын
Great Video Bill, i was waiting for this one, i have only one from your list, the frederique constant im happy to see you apreciate it, i think is a very good brand and im very happy with it, after your video im thinking about to finally get a seiko just not sure wich one yet.
@watchartsci4 жыл бұрын
Good to hear Roberto. See if you can find something really unique that's affordable but flying under the radar. Take care, Bill
@yoinkhaha4 жыл бұрын
I have that green Seiko 5 and it's great for the price, not sure I'd call it a sports watch though because for me a sports watch needs to be able to go swimming. I love that Hamilton traveler GMT... I wish I could find an example around here that I could try on... 200m WR, say whaaaaat!!
@watchartsci4 жыл бұрын
My Seiko 5 is tough and can be used anywhere any time! Maybe a 'Field Watch' would be a better description for the '5. If you get the Hamilton traveler, let me hear what you think. Take care, Bill
@gm39814 жыл бұрын
Hi Bill! GM here again. Great vid. I was wondering how a regulator watch would fit into the categories of level of watch collector. I would assume it's for expert watch collectors since you were looking for one. Any literature on levels of watch collecting too?
@watchartsci4 жыл бұрын
Hi GM ... a Regulator simply has a separate dial for each time element. Mine was only $200, and there's not much advanced about it. Books on watch collection really don't go into the experience level of the collector-just the character of the watch. I think anyone can be advanced simply by finding out about the watch they're buying rather than grabbing the latest and/or most popular watch. "Advanced" is an attitude as much as the contents of a collection. There are watch collectors I know who have been collecting for 20 years who are not advanced: They're just a Beginner X 20. Take care, Bill 😷
@klickme8884 жыл бұрын
Hi Bill, another video with awesome recommendations! I have bought the exact Longines annual calendar (blue dial leather strap) recently for my nephew as a college graduation gift. It is a very nice watch indeed, and there are not that many annual calendars in the market. The best price I got was $1695, not as good as you had found ($1400). Was what you found a brand new one? Cheers!
@watchartsci4 жыл бұрын
That's a good tip Henry, and your nephew has a great uncle! Take care, Bill
@PT-xx9jz4 жыл бұрын
Nice content, out of the beaten path
@watchartsci4 жыл бұрын
Indeed, PT, that's where all the best watches and deals are-the road less traveled. Take care, Bill
@PT-xx9jz4 жыл бұрын
WatchArtSci it would be interesting if you could do a citizen campanola episode!
@watchartsci4 жыл бұрын
😉
@apars784 жыл бұрын
I believe...
@watchartsci4 жыл бұрын
... in what Apar?
@gilbertombp4 жыл бұрын
Hey Bill, what do you think of the Habring Erwin (the dead seconds)?
@watchartsci4 жыл бұрын
I like the Erwin. I didn't mention it because it's more expensive than the Felix.😉 Take care, Bill
@sagartewari19904 жыл бұрын
Hey Bill! Where would you place a used Seamaster 36MM used with an automatic movement?
@watchartsci4 жыл бұрын
The watches listed are not on tiers, but rather what different types of collectors may own. Starting off, most beginners like to get a Sports watch, and the Seamaster 36mm is a sports watch. However, so is my Roger Dubuis Easy Diver, sporting a Geneva Seal by a renowned watchmaker, but it would fit nicely into a beginner's collection as a Sports watch. Take care, Bill
@MAELOB4 жыл бұрын
Not ashamed to be called a beginner- if I see a NOMOS, Ward or Longines in the wild I know the person is a watch geek 😂
@watchartsci4 жыл бұрын
Hey Maelob ... I'm not ashamed either! Take care, Bill
@iosepho4 жыл бұрын
Hello Maelob. What do you think of the Jaeger le-Coultre Geophysic?
@MAELOB4 жыл бұрын
@@iosepho that's just beginner stuff LOL kidding, I wish i had one. Ive been lusting after a basic reverso large small seconds
@klickme8884 жыл бұрын
For the minute repeater category, I read about a German brand Nivrel offering pieces at around $10K. www.nivrel.com/en/edition-replique/repetition-classique_50_1022. What do you think? Thanks.
@watchartsci4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Henry, I'll check it out. Whoops, got a 404 page with your link. I'll look into Nivrel, though. Take care, Bill
@klickme8884 жыл бұрын
@@watchartsci Sorry about the link. Please let me try again: www.nivrel.com/en/edition-replique/repetition-classique_50_1022
@watchartsci4 жыл бұрын
@@klickme888 For €8,500 ... even with an ETA movement, the Répétition Classique is a good deal for a minute repeater. Thanks Henry... take care, Bill
@klickme8884 жыл бұрын
@@watchartsci I will keep it in mind, thanks:) I was watching the Phillips Watch Auction XI this morning, and there was an early FP Journe Resonance sold for CHF 850K, a total of USD 1.12M including premium. I know you have a FJP Resonance, and I'm very happy for you. Have a nice weekend, Bill!
@okihaveaname4 жыл бұрын
Just curious, what do you call Invicta and Diesel collectors? 😂
@watchartsci4 жыл бұрын
Plm, "Invicta & Diesel collectors" ... they're just like there are F.P. Journe collectors but who have different financial resources. Take care, Bill😷
@Javi_C4 жыл бұрын
:)
@watchartsci4 жыл бұрын
Javi ... say something!!!
@Javi_C4 жыл бұрын
@@watchartsci :)
@watchartsci4 жыл бұрын
Javi ... Take care, Bill😷
@gmshadowtraders4 жыл бұрын
What Seiko white dial was on your wrist Bill?
@watchartsci4 жыл бұрын
That was my little Seiko 5...in its desert dress. Take care, Bill😷