Finding the OEM Limits of Toyota GR86

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Finding the OEM Limits of Toyota GR86

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Жыл бұрын

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@runescaper1333 Жыл бұрын

You're supposed to do a reverse drift entry on the start

@mgcharoudin Жыл бұрын

😂

@kimjong-un5074 Жыл бұрын

Hahaha got me hard dude! 🤣👌🏾

@Montarbaur Жыл бұрын

It is nice to see your throttle and brake inputs

@solo86818 Жыл бұрын

Would love to see some more GR 86 content in the future! Glad to see you’re enjoying the car and can’t wait for you to properly mod it for the track!👌

@gp5.082 Жыл бұрын

The g meter is crazy if on point!

@Sable_Slipper23 Жыл бұрын

I have the BRZ version of this car, I have only been autocrossing in it. Pads, fluid, and RT660s make the car kind of silly to drive on the public roads. Thanks Misha, love that you are having fun in our zippy momentum car.

@autosenses2960 Жыл бұрын

Just got RPF1's with RT660's for my GR. Going to be awesome.

@goldtutch Жыл бұрын

i want to do the brakes in my one just to see what its like, could i do just some yellow stuff pads , metal lines and fluid ? is that very expensive? and if i dont really track the car is it a stupid idea? i understand what it would do to the feel of the brakes, like more grab , less fade and stiffer pedal but whats it like to daily?

@autosenses2960 Жыл бұрын

@@goldtutch if you don't track, just get Counter Space Garage Street pads. Get fluid but lines are not needed.

@goldtutch Жыл бұрын

@@autosenses2960 ok sounds logical

@jackwicker Жыл бұрын

@@autosenses2960 Did you go straight from Michelin Primacies to the RT660s? Would love to hear about how it compares and if it's less or more fun with more grip. I'm thinking of switching to Pilot Sport 4S on RPF1s or Konig Hypergrams eventually.

@Madmid74 Жыл бұрын

Ninja reflex @7:01 Misha! Impressive to see how fast you drive on these damp conditions. Keep it up, stay safe!

@TrojanRabbit521 Жыл бұрын

Really appreciate the multiple views especially the foot well. I use to always quick shift and jam it into gear. Seeing how deliberate you are when shifting is helping me be more smooth. Glad you are enjoying the new car as we enjoy your content

@matteugenio Жыл бұрын

Amazing driving as always. What a lovely machine to putter about!

@johnybigarms Жыл бұрын

Looking very smooth, and quicker than you you would expect from such a modest powered car, what times do you think the standard GR86 could achieve on a single lap? Running my car in at the moment, have changed the wheels and tyres so far, semi forged and 10mm wider stickier road tyres, saving about 7kg unsprung weight, great video with the 3 camera view.

@mgcharoudin Жыл бұрын

Sport Auto did 8:27 20.6 km lap, so about 7:57 BTG.

@ethannicosia979 Жыл бұрын

My guess is BTG in the 7:45ish range

@barteykens7305 Жыл бұрын

I think a low 8min is possible with a good driver.

@mgcharoudin Жыл бұрын

@@ethannicosia979not with the stock components/alignment

@Alex-ck4in Жыл бұрын

Whats BTG can someone tell me?

@Balhaarize Жыл бұрын

So great that you can brake also with your clutch feet, when I do that I fly trough the window 😂😂

@Tom3294. Жыл бұрын

Left foot braking is certainly a hard skill to master at first. I remember doing it after I not long passed and nearly had a heart attack🤣

@Balhaarize Жыл бұрын

@@Tom3294. 😂😂

@machtmonk Жыл бұрын

Extra points for when you switch from a manual to the exact same car as an auto. Happend to me when my car got a oil change, first time triggering ABS on a parking lot :`D

@dielaughing73 Жыл бұрын

A lot of cars cut power as soon as you touch the brakes too, as a 'safety' measure. Kills left-foot braking. Even my 370Z did that. Thankfully not the Miata

@guillermoguillermo4368 Жыл бұрын

@@Balhaarize don't use the entire left foot on the break. Try to anchor your heel on the floor so your butt does not slide off the seat. Misha said that in one of his videos. But also make sure there is not floor mats that could slide under the pedals and there are no cars behind you before trying it.

@SVSiscoolmetracen Жыл бұрын

"Airport rental? nice choise for a car" has to be the best line in this video hahaha Nice driving misha, its a joy seeing you enjoy it so much! By the way, arent rental company's prohibiting people from using their cars on the ring?

@mgcharoudin Жыл бұрын

Correct, but it does not stop people from doing it thinking they won't get caught.

@hamzasherazi9334 Жыл бұрын

These videos will serve as a good benchmark to see the progression from a stock to a fully moded car. Excited too see what you have in store. Some stickers are in order too.

@JakobusVdL Жыл бұрын

Wow! Learning to left foot brake like that in a manual car must take a lot of practice. Do you have a video to explain the basic why, when and how of left foot braking? Would you only practice (or develop) that skill on track, or can it be done, safely, on road too?

@richsackett3423 Жыл бұрын

Just started thinking about putting a Volvo T5 engine in some kind of early Type 86/BRZ. These films are really persuading me the chassis would be a winner. Love your driving btw.

@ciello___8307 Жыл бұрын

maybe k20 /k24 turbo?? that would fly

@CapnT87 Жыл бұрын

I don’t have the core strength to left-foot brake without a harness, the braking forces take my body and right leg into the accelerator pedal haha…I suppose it helps keep the revs up 😂

@philipp-rt8mt Жыл бұрын

There are often complaints about a lack of power, but honestly, the GR86 looks pretty quick under your control! It should be a fun car to drive on the Ring!

@MKu64 Жыл бұрын

The only people complaining are the ones who haven't driven it. Super fun to drive (I have the current BRZ). People seem to forget the car is light too.

@veeza7001 Жыл бұрын

Amazing video what a car what a drive

@nessusing Жыл бұрын

GR86 has a G meter? I have only driven my car 2 days, still figuring out the gadgets. 😅

@XenonArcher Жыл бұрын

This car is very capable, and so are you as a driver, nice save! car seemed quite fast and grippy despite the mixed conditions

@jackwicker Жыл бұрын

If it's even possible, what mods do you think it would need to go sub 8 min 20.6km? Alignment components, pads, fluid, and 200tw tires mainly, right? I have the Subaru version and absolutely love it so far, but I haven't tracked it or modified it very much. I've only put on camber bolts, a lighter clutch helper spring, and a lighter axleback exhaust, all of which I would recommend for a street oriented car. Would love to hear more about your plans and expectations for your car.

@JC7119 Жыл бұрын

I am very curious what your over all take after the lap. It seems like brakes, suspension, possibly aero, gearing after power mods to match the gear to the track, and this thing will be extremely quick. I am extremely excited to see where this goes.

@S18RSG Жыл бұрын

I assume you're enjoying it so far? I feel like mine will benefit a lot from a bit of camber on the front, but it doesn't need much else to be really good. Brakes hold up well for me around the Welsh countryside, but I imagine you're getting a bit of fade at the Ring? Pads and fluid for sure, but also not sure if Toyota did any kind of brake cooling at all? My Bilstein coilovers go on in 5 days, as well as a wealth of other alignment bits from Whiteline, gonna be great to feel the difference.

@mgcharoudin Жыл бұрын

I will be installing "small upgrades" after Easter before throwing on the "big stuff", to show that you can get far with basic upgrades too. My Bilstein shocks arrive mid May, curious to see what you'll think of them!

@S18RSG Жыл бұрын

@@mgcharoudin I'll send you a DM on IG or something when I've had some time to try them out. I'm fitting B16s, just FYI. Forged wheels should be here in a few weeks, just struggling to decide on tyre size. Thinking about 225s to maintain the agility, do you know what you're doing with tyres yet?

@Gouranga552 Жыл бұрын

Nice lap, love watching you push the cars to the limits of their capabilities. It would be a nice comparison if you can do a lap in one of the new GR Supras aswell to show the overall differences in the platforms and their abilities.

@Erachin Жыл бұрын

Could you please show the oil temperature next time? Maybe after the lap or so. Would be really interesting

@jasonm.1370 Жыл бұрын

My friend the limit of that car is the excessive rtv clogging the oil pickup. I'm glad I waited.

@kylewagenaar5786 Жыл бұрын

I finally got my 86 out on the road this year, hopefully I can convince some guys to go on a road trip with me this summer and go to a track.

@boywhohadatiger 7 ай бұрын

I own a GTI but the gr86 it seems will teach me much more about driving

@johnellenberger1965 Жыл бұрын

What a clean, smooth lap. Bravo!!

@thatboibenji1228 Ай бұрын

Weird question, but why are you using your left foot to break sometimes?? It looks awkward, but I'm sure there's a reason you keep switching? Awesome driving btw!

@deagt3388 Жыл бұрын

Be careful, don't crash that car! ;-)

@davidsmall7676 Жыл бұрын

The big question is: What will Misha do to improve it? There as not much in the way of verbal clues in the lap. What are the thoughts???🎉

@martindeoliveira5128 Жыл бұрын

Noticed the car has done over 1km before the lap. Assume you did a post run oil change? If so what did you go with? Most of the information out there suggests to go to a 5w30 or 5w40 for “heavy duty” use. Would also be cool to see what oil temps you seeing in the heavy load areas of the track like heading uphill after Bergwerk. Thank you!

@krzysztofparchanski8447 Жыл бұрын

I owned an FA20DIT Forester (yes, turbocharged version of the FA20 found in the predecessor - GT86) and I've read that 5W40 is the top viscosity as the oil channels are quite narrow, not suitable for W50 oils (I am just repeating what mechanics told me). Acknowledging that FA20 was the "test version" of FA24 that's in the GR86 I would also be interested in what oil is recommended for it.

@ianmansfield8885 Жыл бұрын

I m always impressed with the calmness of your steering inputs and forearms its a great skill...was that brake pedal long at the end???

@brotliebhaberpsn5522 Жыл бұрын

Would be interesting if you drive the gt86 and Gr86 back to back on track and compare them😊

@drazenbudis7881 Жыл бұрын

Will you try to get rid of that rev hang?

@SupraSav Жыл бұрын

Oh you are a gambler eh?! Dang brother, get some sunglasses for that evening glare! Loved the video, nice seeing input matrix.

@TML34 Жыл бұрын

Seems pretty good to me, maybe a brake pads and fluid upgrade, but I wouldn't change the dampers for a car that's mostly street driven. Put some PS4S on it and call it a day. Edit: tune the rev hang out too! 😅

@konforzone Жыл бұрын

The car seems not powerful enough slow sections of the track especially when you held on 3rd gear. Also you told your previous videos that 6th gear is unnecessarily long. It is possible to lower fdr to make the car punch more or some positive displament supercharger to bump up all torque curve.

@peanutbutterpadre1519 Жыл бұрын

if you want people to pay attention to this car wrap it yellow or red (obviously trueno blue is the best color just not for thumbnails of giveaway cars)

@dobisss_ Жыл бұрын

Could have whipped a handbrake turn to honor the fallen hero Ken Block at the start.

@mgcharoudin Жыл бұрын

I suck at those

@bigbaza30 Жыл бұрын

GR was singing, Awesome lap Misha, love it

@rabid_1 Жыл бұрын

The ring was nice ... but ... when does Maggi get her own helmet, and what will be the liverly?

@mgcharoudin Жыл бұрын

I don't even have a livery on mine 🤣

@rabid_1 Жыл бұрын

@Misha Charoudin I don't know her other than the appearances on your channel, but I would go with Carbon helmet, and dual little pink pawprint racing stripes down the middle.

@guillermoguillermo4368 Жыл бұрын

@@mgcharoudin how else are you supposed to increase your rep so you can participate in more underground street races and be feature in more magazines uh? 😅

@staLkerhu Жыл бұрын

@@mgcharoudin that's why you will need to surprise her with it!

@johnshuarwamirama Жыл бұрын

lmfao the look you gave the camera after losing grip... 😂

@samuelgomez3311 Жыл бұрын

Only bad thing is the surface. I mean when you looking for the car's limit grip may be better with complete wet asphalt or completely dry for me. Mixed surface is very difficult to know how much grip the car really has. The good thing is you can run all season of the year 😂😂 so no problem in your case

@TheSVision Жыл бұрын

Why not give as lap times, anyway

@frankhage1734 Жыл бұрын

Why is Misha's acceleration graph so asymmetrical? Is it the track, or is it the driver who doesn't push the limits on right verses left turns. I've followed many a person up a local canyon road who seem to only have turning in one direction mastered. Smooth one way, a series of bouncing between the lane markers on the other.

@jimsound7888 Жыл бұрын

Imagine this......a toyota 86 with complete celica 4x4 complete engine.........and the whole under pinnings........I DO know a company in Leicester, England would do it.......and it will be the best and fastest 86 on the ring

@jeroen.feelders Жыл бұрын

Een mooie avond op de Ring. Hoe gaat het met de ondernemers in het Ahr-dal 1,5 jaar na de overstroming? Ik was in augustus in Mayschoss en de schade was nog zo aanwezig. Misschien een videosuggestie voor Ring-bezoekers.

@mathmk7r Жыл бұрын

I'm sorry if you already mention if but are you running stock brake pads and brake oil ?

@mgcharoudin Жыл бұрын

All stock so far.

@garylambert-hg9op Жыл бұрын

Nice smooth lap, after mods sub 8;00 if you boost power slightly 👀💥

@Fugoczi Жыл бұрын

Am excited to see how this build turns out

@jumbojumbostatif1704 Жыл бұрын

I love the foot work! :)

@RubenSaiz Жыл бұрын

Good video, waiting to see more content of the GR86. In this video the car feels as slow as my GT86, maybe I need more km to develop its full potential 😅

@assassinjohn Жыл бұрын

Now thats the definition of FULL SEND !

@gabrielperusin8828 Жыл бұрын

Great car Misha. The Japan buildings have great quality AND durability. I'm expecting abuot the upgrades ! Grats!

@mytwocoins Жыл бұрын

Enjoyed the lap with my coffee. ☕️

@grailfit Жыл бұрын

Every week the cones get more difficult, must be Colin McRae's rally school

@redsiput44 Жыл бұрын

Could you do a hot lap with oem mk8gti dsg maybe just sticky tires change?

@mayyar Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@mgcharoudin Жыл бұрын

THANK YOU!

@micheltebraake7915 Жыл бұрын

Mooi rondje!

@Modmaann Жыл бұрын

Misha when are you going to do a track video impression with someone's ford focus RS mk3?

@friendlybucket7268 Жыл бұрын

nice drive, i assume its early in the morning? u drive really concentrated and mad on a wet track, i would shit in my pants, doing this... im not even trying tbh ^^... really love how beautiful the track looks in dawn, stunning when the sun shines through the trees, big downside, u get blinded so hard..

@DimV95 Жыл бұрын

It would be so much better if we could have the screen with the temperatures !!

@JeanCarlo5 Жыл бұрын

Misha I notice you havent turn off the hill climb assist, is the car on a ramp symbol, the owner manual shows you how to do it

@ethannicosia979 Жыл бұрын

You're manual skills have improved a lot 👍 Remember videos in the Yaris watching you clutch in while still on throttle and underblipping heel toes. Really none of that here!

@mgcharoudin Жыл бұрын

Oh yess

@iceb-akap77ice93 Жыл бұрын

Yeah man. Very nice. Just a little wobble. All good. ✌👍

@Hooligan6R Жыл бұрын

Looking forward to this one

@DADRacingYT Жыл бұрын

Stock.. what would you rather track.. i30N or GR86? and why?

@martinchapman2168 Жыл бұрын

Good video

@gkclarke Жыл бұрын

Showing plenty of skill Misha! Were is the GT2 RS MR?

@mgcharoudin Жыл бұрын

In storage I believe

@JoseCruz-zo3sg Жыл бұрын

Man I love the stock sound of the car is already great, I can't wait for the upgrades ^^!

@staLkerhu Жыл бұрын

If it isn't already removed from inside, then you only hear the speaker which is presented in these cars if I'm not mistaking.

@opmike343 Жыл бұрын

That fake engine sound is terrible, what do you mean "great" 😂

@FairladyS130 Жыл бұрын

Looks to rotate nicely.

@PlymouthVT Жыл бұрын

Nice driving dude that looks like one fun car. Enjoyed it subbed & upped.

@larryzuniga7741 Жыл бұрын

This car…you can just keep doing videos of it 😍

@hunterlogan2913 Жыл бұрын

GR86 predictably loose though suspension just tight enough to fairly easily correct with amount of horsepower and speed it can carry. Good job with all the wet spots! And What was your impression or thoughts..... I'm about to hop on my fancy-ass 3 axis sim and hit Nürburgring on iRacing with GR86 and want some unfair advantage from just watching yoU ~ LOL. I purposely watched your video on my movie theater TV to no avail ~~

@finbeats Жыл бұрын

Nice driving dude

@unknownvinnumber Жыл бұрын

Just took a second to pay attention to the beautiful weather and views of the track. Nice lap!

@elimusk Жыл бұрын

youre an amazing driver!

@enekoprins Жыл бұрын

I haven't seen you do a lap without TC or in Track Mode in this car. No need??

@95theRasmus Жыл бұрын

Lovely video

@xXxH8TERxXx Жыл бұрын

Your face when the sun hits it 😂😂

@hudojnic83 Жыл бұрын

Миша, как впечатления от автомобиля? Ракурс с перегазовкой 👍🏻

@kdm_entertainment Жыл бұрын

Why are the cones there at the start of the track in the first place??

@Driftuner 8 ай бұрын

Any issues with the oil pressure?

@MDEV-86x86 2 ай бұрын

Low oil pressure ?.

@sebramski1 Жыл бұрын

hi Misha, as you're aproaching the curent limit of the car and are planning on improving the car, how are you gonna messure the succes rate of the improvements? as you dont promote/ publish the lap times? have a great weekend !

@mgcharoudin Жыл бұрын

By measuring relevant values such as braking performance, corner entry/exit speeds etc.

@sebramski1 Жыл бұрын

@@mgcharoudin obviously the right aswer :D i just hope to "see" the differance

@goldtutch Жыл бұрын

still on ps4s right? , hey looks like a great platform to start with!

@mediocreman2 Жыл бұрын

Good lap, but what in the world is going on with that engine sound? Is that fake audio? Or why does it sound so horrible? I could never drive a car without an interesting engine.

@shiraz1736 Жыл бұрын

Love to see you in the new Nissan Z on the ring.

@duzzel Жыл бұрын

New Z isn't available in Germany/ Europe, highly doubt it's gonna happen.

@666louis Жыл бұрын

Misha, your biceps is outgrowing your shirts. ^^

@denn15m8 Жыл бұрын

What tyres where you running here?

@Jeffrey.K Жыл бұрын

I am curious what this car can do when it is modified 🚀

@georgetaper Жыл бұрын

Car looks really fun.

@salmonjerky Жыл бұрын

Is this on stock brake pads and fluid?

@ddanci1973 Жыл бұрын

@mgcharoudin How hot did oil / coolant get during that lap? Is the cooling system still OEM?

@dielaughing73 Жыл бұрын

How often is the track this empty?

@mgcharoudin Жыл бұрын

🔮 usually before May and after September

@michelvermeulen61 Жыл бұрын

Awesome lap bro... Whatever you do on the GR86 you gonna be limited by low power! I can wait to see you again driving the M240i xDrive, last time it was amazing and the car was OEM. lolll