MASSIVE DIFFERENCE After Small Mods! // GR86 Nürburgring

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Misha Charoudin

Misha Charoudin

Жыл бұрын

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@mgcharoudin
@mgcharoudin Жыл бұрын
Register on www.gapped.online/register to participate in the GR86 Giveaway and to stay updated about our new track app development!
@darmokVtS
@darmokVtS Жыл бұрын
Great thing but people registering should be aware that participation in the giveaway apparently requires an instagram account, which wasn't mentioned (or if, well hidden) on the giveaway website but I only found out later once I was asked to "confirm my email". Reason is supposedly "so we can contact you if you win", but that seems .. unlikely given that one needed to provide your email address to participate in the first place which should be sufficient to contact people I'd think.
@mgcharoudin
@mgcharoudin Жыл бұрын
​@darmokVtS we don't ask for your credit card or instagram password. I clearly said that sharing our post is "an entry". This way we can track who actually follows the account and shared the post. If you're uncomfortable about the process - no one is forcing you to participate.
@Giofear
@Giofear Жыл бұрын
@@darmokVtS yeah it seems to me it's for influencers only so they get some advertisement in return... unfortunately I don't have instagram so I'm out..
@goldtutch
@goldtutch Жыл бұрын
tyres bro , just cook the ps4s till they are gone then some race tyres
@Uncle19
@Uncle19 Жыл бұрын
Should we expect a confirmation email after confirming email and instagram? I did the steps but got no confirmation I did it correctly
@kaivaksdal
@kaivaksdal Жыл бұрын
It just goes to show how important little things can be. Always have the car set up properly - long before you go chasing more power.
@guillermoguillermo4368
@guillermoguillermo4368 Жыл бұрын
Misha acquired a GR86 but the lucky winner will be getting a GR86 MR 😂
@RadDadisRad
@RadDadisRad Жыл бұрын
It’ll be a an MC 😂
@ahyaan2552
@ahyaan2552 Жыл бұрын
@@RadDadisRad we need custom badges made
@lollypop9580
@lollypop9580 Жыл бұрын
​@@ahyaan2552 "Gr86 MC" in sticker on the both side of the car in Porsche style. 💋👍
@BeanyB0b
@BeanyB0b Жыл бұрын
You need to hold the traction off button for 10 seconds to fully disable it, and you will see 2 lights in the dash instead of just 1. I think you are in regular track mode where TC is only partly turned off.
@KevinBYee
@KevinBYee Жыл бұрын
Reminds me of some BMW systems. One of our instructors had to look up and explain how to take the DSC completely off in my dad's E46 M3. Involved a few steps haha
@mgcharoudin
@mgcharoudin Жыл бұрын
Shit, you're actually right🤦🏻‍♂️ didn't see the second light.
@supraJZA80s
@supraJZA80s Жыл бұрын
It's only about 3-5 seconds but yep. Track mode does allow alot of leeway though
@user-xd3ij7cw8s
@user-xd3ij7cw8s Жыл бұрын
In my front wheel drive city car I have experienced that a small change in alignment make the steering too nervous. So this is so true that alignment is an ''upgrade'' at it's own.
@neznam4149
@neznam4149 Жыл бұрын
Another not expensive upgarde are the sway (anti-roll) bars. The handling gets a lot better.
@kiritowow2736
@kiritowow2736 Жыл бұрын
agree, the most import thing on track is alignment and brakes, every season I will do brake fluid/pad and alignment, especially alignment! most people ignore how important this is, especially if you can do a corner balance alignment
@mytwocoins
@mytwocoins Жыл бұрын
That was worth the wait! Fun and informative lap today!🏁
@plasmablue_sti6945
@plasmablue_sti6945 Жыл бұрын
The toe alignment is pretty similar to the one i did on my Subie - works great, but you know it already 😅 This will be a great car 😎 geting better and better. Oh, and get the steering rack bushings for the GR as well, these are ❤😉😎👍
@bigalalbig
@bigalalbig Жыл бұрын
Would be great to see the proper camber bolts reviewed, as that is probably the next step in enjoying the GR on track, with reasonable tyre life.
@8thlvlMage
@8thlvlMage Жыл бұрын
It's so funny you seem to censor yourself less the more fun you're having, rather than in tense moments. It's the opposite impulse as most people I think. I always enjoy seeing you have a blast around the best track!
@yi-shenlin
@yi-shenlin Жыл бұрын
I think the work of corner weighting helps a lot. But, not every maintenance shop could or know how to do that. Thanks for sharing👍
@FragEightyfive
@FragEightyfive Жыл бұрын
I concur. Every vehicle I buy I do these three things after performing a baseline: brakes (pads+fluid), tires, alignment. I have always been blown away that suspension parts are really just what am i trying to fine tune or accomplish out of the vehicle.
@groundzerokc4030
@groundzerokc4030 Жыл бұрын
I have been hesitating whether to get an alignment job for my stock Miata. I didn't know how much difference it is going to make, especially consider I have no intention of modifying it. After watching this I'm definitely going to have a look into alignment!
@igalkr11
@igalkr11 Жыл бұрын
Hi @Misha Charoudin, I own a new BRZ 2023 and also changed the brake lines (MANN) brake fluid ( Castrol performance), and brake pads ( HAWK DTC 70 front), feels amazing! thanks for the tips about this car appreciate it. My main question is for you, I ordered White line camber bolts and SPC performance arms for the rear, and I changed my alignments but I had a strange feel on the track yesterday, the car is not sharp into the corner as I wanted, and the alignments I did Front camber : -2.25R - 2.25L Front tow- +0.6R + 0.6L Rear Camber: - 2.5R - 2.5L Rear tow +0.4R +0.4L What are your thoughts? maybe change the front tow in to tow out -0.2? Thanks!
@1carusjohn32
@1carusjohn32 6 ай бұрын
Glad I found this, the turn in from left to right on my GR is 'snatchy' and I was suspecting an alignment issue. I still have my GT and I actually trust it more in the corners as I know exactly what I am going to get. Didi you just realign the car to the default stock factory set up as it should be or do something else with it here.
@Jay-sn7wu
@Jay-sn7wu Жыл бұрын
nice~ slap some RE-7RS on there! I did the same thing before coilovers. tires, RLCA and camber bolts, brake pads.
@TiagoogaiT89
@TiagoogaiT89 Жыл бұрын
My friend, the driving continues spot on, but when watching the videos with other cars and now with this one, it seems that you are going in slow motion 😂. Keep up the good work Misha, congrats from Portugal.
@TachRR765
@TachRR765 Жыл бұрын
To prevent engine breakdown due to a sticking crankshaft, I strongly recommend fitting a baffle plate in the oil pan and filling the oil with 6 litres of engine oil.
@marijnkramer6897
@marijnkramer6897 Жыл бұрын
I am realy surprised how much our DS3 THP 155 changed by just lowering springs from eibach and the alignment numbers of the DS3 “Racing”. So next step will be brake lines and body stiffness.👌🏻
@404nobrakes
@404nobrakes Жыл бұрын
Traction control is not fully off in Track mode. You need to hold the other button down to turn off both esc and trac.
@vanko26
@vanko26 Жыл бұрын
Micha, Instead of the megane RS brake kit, try Reyland Motorsports kit with AP Racing CP9200 callipers and 330mm 2 piece discs. I have ran that setup on my GT86 for ages and it is probably the best setup to install without disturbing the brake bias. Ivan
@church493
@church493 Жыл бұрын
I guess, except engine, there might be more common with gt86 then dissimilar. If so, as you noted, car will benefit a lot from more overall negative camber (extra 0.5deg more in front for less understeery grip balance), zero toe front, slight toe in rear. As for TC long press off, probably you still have EBD and e-diff on. If you want to switch those off too to leave only basic ABS, google on pedal dance (specific handbrake/brake sequence within 30s of starting (warmed up) engine). ABS imho not worth switching off (with fuse). Apart from better fit brake pads/fluid, you may also consider adding brake ducts.
@JeLifeCoach
@JeLifeCoach 4 ай бұрын
What alignment specs do you recommend for a stock BRZ /gt86 when you don’t have coilover top hats to adjust - just camber bolts?
@Th3_0_h8
@Th3_0_h8 Жыл бұрын
What pads did u put on. And what alignment specs did u use?
@volans25
@volans25 5 ай бұрын
Has there been any issue with loss of oil pressure, primarily in right hand turns, that some are seeing when they track the GR86?
@iamswitters
@iamswitters Жыл бұрын
This dude looooves his "finger quotes"😂 I'm digging this series on the GR86. Really makes me want to get one. Keep them coming!
@allanashok
@allanashok Жыл бұрын
Gotta love all the smiles and laugh even a Tiny relatively inexpensive car can bring
@christopher6895
@christopher6895 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if the BRZ doesn’t have these issues? Different suspension setup from the factory. The 86 was tuned to have a ton of oversteer
@loonytoon8836
@loonytoon8836 Жыл бұрын
And now Räder Motorsport are fully booked with alignments until end of the year.
@Underp4ntz_Gaming_Channel
@Underp4ntz_Gaming_Channel Жыл бұрын
When i upgraded my calipers to bigger ones incl. braided steel lines i noticed a much much better and faster stop, it almost feels like you hit a concrete wall... while "experts" say it does not matter how big your brakes or pads are it still have same stopping distance... i call bullsjit... i tested it multiple times and it was way more aggressive from stock to big brakes... The more surface area the better bite... which comes from my own mechanical engineering experiences even a friend who didn't know i had them upgraded asked me if i did something to the car. And the next upgrade for me is a oil cooler (never had high temps just yet btw) and indeed a coil over set incl. an laser alignment, dunno why Manthey ask so much money it only costs 60 euro's here from a well known tyre dealer who is also involved into F1 racing.
@veganjoy
@veganjoy Жыл бұрын
could you share details on the car cams, front and inside views? so stable and clear
@thedoctormma9433
@thedoctormma9433 Жыл бұрын
There are a hand full of 200 to 250 lb v8s based off Suzuki/Kawasaki/Yamaha engines. They're low displacement and rev to 10K. The GR86 would be perfect for one. Search JUN BRZ if you haven't seen it already. Such a clean car.
@jacobleetech
@jacobleetech 3 ай бұрын
Do you have a video that goes into the specifics of what you did to the 86? really interested in learning more about mods that actually make a difference on the car. thanks!
@rinkonikaido1652
@rinkonikaido1652 Жыл бұрын
Surprised by that stock alignment. Any report for Porsche that the factory alignment is off?
@tigerhawk84
@tigerhawk84 Жыл бұрын
Has there been a mention about disabling the fake engine sound? It really starts to hurt my head after a few minutes it sounds awful.
@mgcharoudin
@mgcharoudin Жыл бұрын
Gonna do it!
@tigerhawk84
@tigerhawk84 Жыл бұрын
@@mgcharoudin Glad to (not) hear it. I've heard its pretty simple you pop off the side of the dash on the passenger side and unplug something. Probably a million tutorials on youtube. I am a strong anti-fan of fake engine noises. Almost nobody gets it right.
@zouksouk6771
@zouksouk6771 Жыл бұрын
mind let me know what brand is the bolt?
@OG-ru9mj
@OG-ru9mj Жыл бұрын
Really exciting to see this car's development and cant wait to see it keep going. Great content Misha
@NicholasZak
@NicholasZak Жыл бұрын
And this kids just goes to show.... you DO NOT need to sell your organs for an expensive high horsepower car to enjoy it. This is where the craft becomes important, understand vehicle dynamics and more importantly ...trust yourself.
@Billy.Butcher
@Billy.Butcher Жыл бұрын
Excited* to see what the car is going to end up looking like 👍
@bigbaza30
@bigbaza30 Жыл бұрын
Awesome viseo, amazing to see what such a small change does to a stock car
@jaspin5108
@jaspin5108 Жыл бұрын
only one plug and it was a mock, love this guy. definitely register for the 86
@PavLOCKd
@PavLOCKd Жыл бұрын
Misha, what's your GO FOR wheel alignment settings for understearing Subarus?
@mgcharoudin
@mgcharoudin Жыл бұрын
Toe out front Toe in rear Or toe out rear if you wanna play with life
@boblast5582
@boblast5582 Жыл бұрын
what do 800 euro pads do that good quality 2-400 euro race pads don't?
@TheUberdude14
@TheUberdude14 Жыл бұрын
did my first lap on the ring yesterday and loved it, alot of mods need to be done to my car before i do a faster lap
@pol.86
@pol.86 Жыл бұрын
don't forget driver mod! happy tracking
@TheUberdude14
@TheUberdude14 Жыл бұрын
@@pol.86 will do hahha, been learning alot on my friends race simulator but thats nothing compared to the real deal
@mackie1001
@mackie1001 Жыл бұрын
What alignment specs did you use out of interest? I added some toe in at the rear (10 minutes) which definitely makes it feel more stable in high speed corners.
@mgcharoudin
@mgcharoudin Жыл бұрын
See yesterday's vid
@HidRomail
@HidRomail Жыл бұрын
How much camber would you be aiming for, if the camber bolts were OK, on a kind of not that modified car for track? Provided you are still using regular tires/semi-slicks.
@mgcharoudin
@mgcharoudin Жыл бұрын
You can max out at -2.2 apparently and that would be nice
@zchizoiddd483
@zchizoiddd483 Жыл бұрын
Wow this is the fastest ive ever been on one of your videos. Anyways, love your 86 and your content Misha. Keep doing awesome.
@micheltebraake7915
@micheltebraake7915 Жыл бұрын
Het is straks interessant om voordat je de nieuwe veren en dempers monteert eerst te kijken hoe de oude uitlijning zich heeft gehouden met het rijden over de curbstones.
@SpikeletTheBoss
@SpikeletTheBoss Жыл бұрын
Gr86 feel even better turbo or supercharged it really adds more fun experience driving it
@marcvanderbent9262
@marcvanderbent9262 Жыл бұрын
My alignment is of at least for one tire... but NBR alignment is something completely different I learn... some work left I guess before a proper visit...
@anhiirr
@anhiirr 5 ай бұрын
For me BBK/Steel lines, Sway bar/strut brace, and ideal tire/suspension tune is a mandatory MOD to make this car truly ideal. With a SC and ideal header+exhaust combination im sure it can be very competitive. For the range of handling/power-torque band and overall cost.
@atulier
@atulier Жыл бұрын
What breaks did you get??
@Fernagts
@Fernagts Жыл бұрын
Hey! We're on the withe Clio! Good to share the track with you!
@mgcharoudin
@mgcharoudin Жыл бұрын
Woohoo!
@Lutzilla_
@Lutzilla_ 4 ай бұрын
any problems with oilpressure with this car? i read alot of it and make sure that is true..
@MDEV-86x86
@MDEV-86x86 Ай бұрын
It is the great question. In my opinion, use 5w40 oil.
@giannisweightlifting3996
@giannisweightlifting3996 Жыл бұрын
whats more important with upgrading brakes? pads/discs/calibers or u usually go for a whole kit? as seen here pads improved braking performance so much.
@mgcharoudin
@mgcharoudin Жыл бұрын
Pads and fluid first, then rest if necessary
@gabefern3414
@gabefern3414 Жыл бұрын
Alisha should record a lap with the car stock and compare it to the car when modded
@jeduardoslb1
@jeduardoslb1 Жыл бұрын
For tax purposes, I hope Misha puts 6000km on the GR86 and only gives it away after 6 months of ownership.
@Frankestein01nl
@Frankestein01nl Жыл бұрын
Lol, nice lap m8..Great improvement! btw: Did you forget to unplastic your footrest? :) Edit: haha, nice analysis with the trackside zoomed in photographs!
@Frankestein01nl
@Frankestein01nl Жыл бұрын
@@Rexax1 haha, "OCD kicked in yo!" Didn't it? ;)
@allanashok
@allanashok Жыл бұрын
WAS WAITING FOR THIS, ANOTHER BANGER LAP MISHA!!!
@jeepmor
@jeepmor 9 ай бұрын
What are the alignment numbers?
@fercu7592
@fercu7592 Жыл бұрын
Saludos Misha Cambia y limpia bien el carter inferior de aceite,asi como el pick up. Hay un problema de fabrica,la silicona o producto que utilizaron de sello es defectuosa,se desintegra llegando a taponar el pick up. Busca info en foros de eeuu,hay muchos casos de rotura total del motor. Bueno videos
@ThunderGoatz
@ThunderGoatz Жыл бұрын
250 euros? Does that include some special sauce for the alignment? Because here in Canada I've been paying $140 for a car with modded suspension, you tell them the toe / camber specs you want and they do it. No where near that price. Ring tax?
@eknapp70
@eknapp70 Жыл бұрын
Hell yeah. I’m gonna do the brakes on mine soon. Maybe some wider tires too
@eknapp70
@eknapp70 Жыл бұрын
I always have nightmares that my brakes are fading and I keep clipping railguards from underbreaking
@adastraperaspera1716
@adastraperaspera1716 Жыл бұрын
Thx for this vid! I'm planning my own mods for my first good car right now and your insights are really interesting. Btw, im planning on buying a Alfa Romeo Brera 3.2 AWD, so really unusual and maybe you will review it one day. It's not a track monster and I'm interested to see how much I can get done with mods and light weight reduction. It shall mostly stay a grand tourer, but a really sporty one.
@thatmotoguy7505
@thatmotoguy7505 Жыл бұрын
They are awesome, I had a 159 with just a 2.2 which I took to zandvoort, could keep up /faster than many other cars in corners, check it out on my channel if you feel like it
@mgcharoudin
@mgcharoudin Жыл бұрын
I'd love to!
@velvetjones1856
@velvetjones1856 Жыл бұрын
I have been comparing the GR86 to the Subaru BRZ and it looks like the Subaru may have some advantages on suspension components. Did you look into this or are you better connected to Toyota there?
@garagecedric
@garagecedric Жыл бұрын
There are no BRZs here with the 2nd gen. Subaru cant afford to sell them here sadly.
@grhow79
@grhow79 Жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed watching the footwork. 😊
@mittysmalls
@mittysmalls Жыл бұрын
12:49am here in Australia and I was about to sleep but then Misha posted a video 🤷🏼‍♂️ so now I must watch Spectating driver excuse : 🥱
@DADRacingYT
@DADRacingYT Жыл бұрын
I can’t wait to get my GR86 😍
@MrBrasilMexico
@MrBrasilMexico Жыл бұрын
How about the RTV?
Жыл бұрын
Great improvement, Misha!!! "The life is priceless." Peace out, dude!!!
@danielsoto_toronto
@danielsoto_toronto Жыл бұрын
Misha could you put the mod list on your website or video description?
@mgcharoudin
@mgcharoudin Жыл бұрын
Sure
@pazera66
@pazera66 Жыл бұрын
I will be visiting NRing in July. Is it better to drive there on weekends when its open for tourist for the whole day or during weekdays but only afternoon? Should I stay away of 30 juily because of Belgium GP or is it the perfect time to drive on ring when everyone is going to the f1? :)
@mgcharoudin
@mgcharoudin Жыл бұрын
🔮
@pazera66
@pazera66 Жыл бұрын
@@mgcharoudin Ye I know but is it generally better to come on weekdays or weekends? BTW I was hoping for getting a MR2 taxi drive with Apex. You don't do taxi anymore, TRAITORS :P
@mgcharoudin
@mgcharoudin Жыл бұрын
@@pazera66 it's really hard to say. Weekdays can be tricky as you only have 2 hours to drive. They can close the track due to accidents. Weekends are busier, but you can drive for longer, mornings and evenings are less busy.
@pazera66
@pazera66 Жыл бұрын
@@mgcharoudin Thanks. It's a weekend then.
@jamie101010
@jamie101010 Жыл бұрын
Great advice for a 86 owner. Thanks! More details on the Megan BBK. Uses adaptors?
@mgcharoudin
@mgcharoudin Жыл бұрын
Yes
@stoneeh
@stoneeh Жыл бұрын
I wonder how stable alignment values really will be with regular cars with rubber bushings. I've done them more or less regularly, but have no idea if they last.
@TheChannel1978
@TheChannel1978 Жыл бұрын
They last tens of thousands of kms unless people drive over kerbs or kerbstones a lot, on streets or track. The usual recommendation is to realign when buying new tires.
@DJSammy69.
@DJSammy69. Жыл бұрын
Super cool lap!
@BackroadBender
@BackroadBender Жыл бұрын
Specs?
@4our6ixkwvmz
@4our6ixkwvmz Жыл бұрын
Goes to show, a lot of fun is had driving a 'slow' car fast
@cs2294
@cs2294 Жыл бұрын
Once you put some camber in it it's really going to fly
@squeakers27
@squeakers27 Жыл бұрын
The brakes, just wow, they just seem to just bite so well and slow the car down pheromonally well.
@DennisfromMunich
@DennisfromMunich Жыл бұрын
And even smell good while that! 😬
@Forke13
@Forke13 Жыл бұрын
How can you tell?
@eduardomeza7279
@eduardomeza7279 Жыл бұрын
Do you mean "phenomenally" rather than "pheromonally"?
@bretjacobson
@bretjacobson Жыл бұрын
What pads did you install?
@mgcharoudin
@mgcharoudin Жыл бұрын
Pfc Z
@xartpant
@xartpant Жыл бұрын
Did you keep the brake booster?
@mgcharoudin
@mgcharoudin Жыл бұрын
Yes
@brambogaert626
@brambogaert626 Жыл бұрын
Love this series, seeing what difference it makes with so little adjustments gives me hope for my car 🤣
@matthewcronin4727
@matthewcronin4727 Жыл бұрын
Blackwing would be fun to watch
@staLkerhu
@staLkerhu Жыл бұрын
Speaking about alignment... Yuki on this weekend... 😂
@camaycama7479
@camaycama7479 8 ай бұрын
I WILL BY A GR86 (or a brz) next spring, can't wait!!😊
@joshuagrahadians4105
@joshuagrahadians4105 Жыл бұрын
Please do the SARD Individual Throttle Conversion kits...
@elimusk
@elimusk Жыл бұрын
thank you!!!!
@Iseenoobpeoples
@Iseenoobpeoples Жыл бұрын
You feel nervous because the OEM differential is Torsen type, they are really unstable, buy an aftermarket clutch pack.
@marc9283
@marc9283 Жыл бұрын
its surprising how much this car can do with 0 camber in the front
@marvinvisser5039
@marvinvisser5039 Жыл бұрын
Nothing better than putting newly added mods to the test
@Conziok
@Conziok Жыл бұрын
I could watch you drive this track all day long
@gabrielpaster
@gabrielpaster Жыл бұрын
Proof that more power is not always the answer
@sooofancier
@sooofancier Жыл бұрын
I wish I could feel the improvements on track but maybe after I win it 😜 looking forward to the next mods!
@baswesten796
@baswesten796 Жыл бұрын
Thas a nice car for sure
@devirkesici7096
@devirkesici7096 Жыл бұрын
Misha Gr Yaris or Gr86 for daily use and little bit of b-road fun?
@mgcharoudin
@mgcharoudin Жыл бұрын
Any
@cedricl.marquard6273
@cedricl.marquard6273 Жыл бұрын
I would love to see whether there are some aerodynamics mods that actually improve the handling. I don't know how viable that is though
@mgcharoudin
@mgcharoudin Жыл бұрын
Wing is coming
@W0o0dy
@W0o0dy Жыл бұрын
​​@@mgcharoudin even some basic improvements on making the floor of the car smoother would make a lot of difference. Although most drivers won't be fast enough with this car to really benefit from actual downforce...
@cedricl.marquard6273
@cedricl.marquard6273 Жыл бұрын
@@mgcharoudin Very cool to hear
@benedikt9390
@benedikt9390 Жыл бұрын
Really very interesting how much difference that makes.. But Misha, please drive careful! I really want to win my dream car in good condition😉
@xXxH8TERxXx
@xXxH8TERxXx Жыл бұрын
small change big difference 👍🏻
@manuelventura3799
@manuelventura3799 Жыл бұрын
Hi Misha, I really want my shot on winning this but it doesn't seem like my registration and entry are working properly
@manuelventura3799
@manuelventura3799 Жыл бұрын
I completed the steps but did not get any confirmation that I got my entry, and I really really really want to know if I am participating so I can sleep tonight
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