Finding Top Dead Center and Timing an engine the easy way!

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1D10CRACY

1D10CRACY

7 жыл бұрын

This engine is a Ford 302 Mercruiser 888, I had replaced the distributor with an HEI style and needed to time the engine. These procedures should work on just about any engine, you will need to know the firing order and cylinder #1.
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@zakr7429
@zakr7429 8 ай бұрын
This video is definitely showing it’s age a little, but man YOU CAME IN CLUTCH. I’m getting recruited by people to get engines started from scratch with timing and totally forgot the method and you explained it meticulously, didn’t miss a thing! Thanks for being informative, and producing a helpful, clear video!
@stevenallen6245
@stevenallen6245 9 ай бұрын
My dad used this method forever and it never fails 😂👍🏾now we all use this method that was passed on also and newer engines are even easier than an old school distributor 😅
@magicmarouke1425
@magicmarouke1425 5 жыл бұрын
very good video . explained very clearly and all the steps seem easy to follow . I don't know why other videos make it look so complicated . will be installing HEI on my 72 Buick Electra and will be doing this just like you've shown
@jimmysapien9961
@jimmysapien9961 3 жыл бұрын
Did my 72’ Chevy p/u 2- weeks ago 👍🏻 but used a screw driver . 🤔
@allhartfidelity
@allhartfidelity 5 жыл бұрын
Why all the thumbs down? Been doing it this way for 35 years when i cant see the valves. Looks correct to me, and the video is clear and consise with no time wasted. Thank you for you efforts.
@kawonu2666
@kawonu2666 3 жыл бұрын
Bump it till you feel the pressure but then you put some rubber hose down the cylinder and turn the engine by hand till the hose stops before going back down. Too far rotate it back around twice and watch it a little closer. That's TDC for sure.
@jimmysapien9961
@jimmysapien9961 3 жыл бұрын
@@kawonu2666 I recently used a screw driver. All alone . 😞
@dntlss
@dntlss Жыл бұрын
@@jimmysapien9961 Just like with anything ,people love to overcomplicate things,stabbing a distributor is something easy to do but of course you need to follow certain parameters.
@davedurs5641
@davedurs5641 5 жыл бұрын
i just got a boat and never worked on a engine with a distributor. Well....never had to completely time a engine with a distributor. the whole time i was trying to start the engine at 0 degrees instead of 10-15 degrees BTDC duh! your my hero dude
@jcam0710
@jcam0710 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. I almost pulled out the whole engine to reset the timing again. But I knew there had to be an easier way. Lucky I found your video.
@pattreadwell6149
@pattreadwell6149 4 жыл бұрын
I also have a 302 that is becoming a career project
@crosbyhebert7477
@crosbyhebert7477 3 жыл бұрын
BRO! THANK YOU!!!!! I have a 63 Corvair and was havinbg difficulty with this. Every gear head that came out acted as if this was some "top secret" knowledge that they were only privy to know. Anyhoo, very helpful very "Simple " talk and steps. THANKS !
@Noiboy1987
@Noiboy1987 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! The best video I’ve found that explains in clear detail on the steps needed to do this. Thanks!
@danieltrobaugh643
@danieltrobaugh643 5 жыл бұрын
By far the best timing video on KZfaq. Thumbs up and subscribed.
@jimmysapien9961
@jimmysapien9961 3 жыл бұрын
Yes great 👍🏻
@hill151529
@hill151529 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for the instruction even I have no knowledge about it . Great lesson.
@jim-jf5rn
@jim-jf5rn Жыл бұрын
Good video but can you have a tutorial on how to wire up that HEI distributor from a points/analog distributor? I think I wired mine wrong and I can't find any video on the proper wiring. Also the instructions I got for mine were vague.
@felicealketti1534
@felicealketti1534 4 жыл бұрын
Perfect! Saw a ton of videos, found yours on accident and is the best of all
@alfakrab6134
@alfakrab6134 2 жыл бұрын
Nice! Was familiar with the wooden dowel trick but this is the real deal feel braille version I love it!
@general5104
@general5104 Жыл бұрын
Very nice video. An easy way to make a remote starter control is to take a tricicle handlegrip and thread a piece of 18-2 zip cord thru its hole and put the wires onto a doorbell button that mounts round in a hole. Its a perfect fit for the handlegrip. Tie a knot in the zipcord so it won't come out of the hole inside the grip. This keeps the tension off the switch hookup. then strip back the distance you require between the battery positive and the solenoid and install one allegator clip and one crocodile clip. This makes a good starting cord. Make it long enough to reach down to the timing marks. Bill, from Tn. 🇺🇸
@jeremyb2108
@jeremyb2108 3 жыл бұрын
Wonderfully explained. Thank you!
@oddborofiend
@oddborofiend 3 жыл бұрын
THAAANK YOU, just needed a long lost refresher, and this is clear cut and straight forward. Much appreciation!
@dreamingcode
@dreamingcode 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you great vid but seems like another step. What do i do when i find out the manufacturers setting for timing?
@jonny5ive167
@jonny5ive167 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@nwabowhunter622
@nwabowhunter622 3 ай бұрын
Thank you! Helped me immensely.
@wrenchmantooly5169
@wrenchmantooly5169 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video 👍 I found one day that a wine bottle cork, shaped down to a gradual point with a long screw attached worked quite well. Shove it in tight, then compression blows it out. Works well when access is limited.
@anthonylatronica5108
@anthonylatronica5108 Жыл бұрын
Great job on the video. Just an opinion on the HEI distributors. I had one and found them very troublesome. They are extremely hard to set and maintain a reasonable (aka factory setting for total advance) total advance curve. Also they pack way too much into a oversized package and as such present a whole host of other ongoing issues. I took mine out and replaced it with a Pertronix unit. Way better and rock solid in reliability and performance. FYI
@scottmcbride2237
@scottmcbride2237 Жыл бұрын
You can use a rag if you don't want to use your finger and you can just hand turn it. I've never used my finger or used a remote start.
@bs360kickflip
@bs360kickflip 2 жыл бұрын
amazing thanks for the best proper explanation yet!
@thelittleredbarn174
@thelittleredbarn174 Жыл бұрын
Good video as I was wondering how you find TDC on a non running engine
@mobilechief
@mobilechief 5 жыл бұрын
I've been doing that way for over 40 years ,thanks for posting to show others
@jasonthompson3135
@jasonthompson3135 Жыл бұрын
If I past the 0 on top dead center will this damage my engine I have a chevy 327 or will I be able to rotate it back conter clock wise great video I need help with mines thanks
@326yumariver
@326yumariver 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the very understanding video
@knowyuhgrow420
@knowyuhgrow420 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing
@8barbies779
@8barbies779 2 жыл бұрын
hi 1D10, i just got a new dist. for my 1990 ford e350 econoline van 5.8. number one is so, so hard to get to. i've heard that if you're replacing a dist. from scratch (no idea where original was) that you have to do the TDC thing. if i'm just directly replacing it can i just pull it noting where rotor is pointing and then just make sure i put new one in same orienteation, just make sure cap is aligned the same way and the rotor is pointing to same wire post as one that came out? thanks and sorry if this is an ignorant question:)))-barbie
@angelogiovanniello7473
@angelogiovanniello7473 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks heaps
@ramirogonzalez9214
@ramirogonzalez9214 3 жыл бұрын
Setting the timing would it work the same way on a 289 ford also
@miguiaculiacan
@miguiaculiacan 3 жыл бұрын
Good job !
@louisroman7134
@louisroman7134 2 жыл бұрын
Well done.
@timdaley5279
@timdaley5279 7 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to see this boat on the water!
@eternal7_gaming340
@eternal7_gaming340 5 жыл бұрын
Hello I have a 81 cutlass supreme v6 231 with a carburetor will this method work on my car? If it does what should I hook the remote start up?
@jimmysapien9961
@jimmysapien9961 3 жыл бұрын
Yes it will . And you can run the remote to the starter.
@JanHore
@JanHore 3 жыл бұрын
I finally understand, thank you:)
@greenorienteer
@greenorienteer 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I am about to rebuild/try to start an old 888 and would love to know where you found the manufacturers manual to see what the timing should be? Any chance you could share the manual?
@1D10CRACY
@1D10CRACY 2 жыл бұрын
I don't have a manual. ;) It has been timed by my ear. LOL
@danielboone72
@danielboone72 4 жыл бұрын
I thought zero degrees was true TDC on your indicator, not 12 degrees?
@dorienberteletti2129
@dorienberteletti2129 11 ай бұрын
Looks like the harder way. The easiest is the whistle method and you can buy them cheap or make your own. A piece of tubing with a cone at one end and a whistle at the other. Place the cone end in the spark plug hole. Turn the motor over and when that cyl is coming up on compression, you will hear the whistle and as you keep going, the whistle will stop and that is your TDC.
@1D10CRACY
@1D10CRACY 11 ай бұрын
That will work, though the way I do it is pretty simple. ;)
@MD-pt2mw
@MD-pt2mw Жыл бұрын
GREAT JOB!!!.. SUBBED
@AS-yc9nm
@AS-yc9nm 6 жыл бұрын
How do you know that the pressure u r feeling on ur finger is not the exhaust stroke?
@1D10CRACY
@1D10CRACY 6 жыл бұрын
+Ally Singh On the combustion stroke you will not be able to hold the pressure back.
@ShainAndrews
@ShainAndrews 6 жыл бұрын
Only time you will have air coming out the spark plug hole is on the compression stroke (both valves closed). During the exhaust stroke (exhaust valve open) the air will flow out the exhaust valve.
@jhutch1470
@jhutch1470 6 жыл бұрын
Because the exhaust valve is open. The cylinder will not build pressure.
@yuree08
@yuree08 2 жыл бұрын
when you marked your distributor cap im wondering how i would do that, how would i know where cylinder 1 is? can you please tell me? thanks
@1D10CRACY
@1D10CRACY 2 жыл бұрын
When you find top dead center for cylinder 1, where ever the button under the cap is pointing too is cylinder 1.
@solomon2093
@solomon2093 6 жыл бұрын
Hi I've completely lost my distributor mark when I took out the distributor for when engine was timed. How do I go about fixing this please.
@steffinmezger5301
@steffinmezger5301 5 жыл бұрын
Watch the video bro
@SOU6900
@SOU6900 5 жыл бұрын
😆
@jimmysapien9961
@jimmysapien9961 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly look at the video
@wisevision2981
@wisevision2981 3 жыл бұрын
How did you turn it on my car has no key
@leniyemsvictorero2360
@leniyemsvictorero2360 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your video I changed my self the distributor wires spark plugs router and cap Because previously I had a PO 300 and PO328 a misfiring code But still I have the codes after changing all that The only thing I didn't do was setting the timing a don't have the light gun but I placed the new distributor and router the same way it was before The engine stars very good but still like a mentioned before there is misfiring causing when I stop at lights it vibrates in a celeration on its own
@martystevens3969
@martystevens3969 6 жыл бұрын
Leniyems Victorero Get a Actron CP9690 code tester. It checks live, record, graphing, it turns check engine lights off, it resets oil lights, it works on OBDI Ford, G.M, Chrysler, and 2 Toyota cables. You can test a car while driving. It'll show the coolent temp. sensor ° in Fahrenheit. It'll show the ISC % closed. The EGR valve % closed, MAP sensor voltages, MAF voltages and MORE!
@martystevens3969
@martystevens3969 6 жыл бұрын
Leniyems Victorero When installing the distributor, get it on #1 TDC on compression stroke on 0. Lift the distributor and point the rotor at #1 terminal on the cap. Turn the distributor way back opposite normal rotation. Lower the distributor and adjust for normal timing. Set the timing. Check codes and tests with the Actron CP9690. Replace the plug wires and plugs. Put antiseize on plug threads. Put silicone grease on the inside of the boot. Pull on the boot and never the wire. Check the wires for the connector inside or if it's on the plug. If it's on the plug, replace the plug wire.
@jimmysapien9961
@jimmysapien9961 3 жыл бұрын
@@martystevens3969 Exactly I did the same thang. Bought a new D.U.I. Performance HEI 50,000 volts Coil running great & they have great service !
@juanpabloramirez6565
@juanpabloramirez6565 6 жыл бұрын
Hi, i do same with mine years ago and boat come alive again but what about advance on boats vaccum advance do not apply, did you know on this engine how to del with advance?, Originally when mallory points distribuitor was working fine boat run 42 mph( but points give problems each time i use boat then i decide to change to HEI) and with this only runs 35mph. I was planning to design an cable linckage from throtle to replace vaccum diafragm mecanism, also another question is idle timing on this engine i search but i can´t find it ,i guess is about 6 to 10 degrees.
@1D10CRACY
@1D10CRACY 6 жыл бұрын
+Juan Pablo Ramirez My carb is not ported so I had no place to hook up the advanced timing, though I seen folks online teeing into the manifold vacuum. Thought about trying, but my boat runs just fine without doing so. I'm sure I am less efficient, but I'm ok with it. As far as timing, I looked mine up online, cannot remember what I had set it too, I want to say 12.
@juanpabloramirez6565
@juanpabloramirez6565 6 жыл бұрын
Thank´s, now i´m working on an atachment to make it mechanical link to distributor if it works will send you plans, by now i will print on 3d to test, if it works will send to cut stainless with laser
@ShainAndrews
@ShainAndrews 6 жыл бұрын
I think your base timing is low. 10 is probably the minimum. 15 is probably more realistic. More than that depends on the engine, fuel, altitude. Start by bumping the base timing. If that doesn't improve your top end I would find out what the total advance your HEI distributor provides and what RPM it is achieved at. I strongly discourage attempting some sort of manual timing advancement scheme. I also don't see a huge advantage to vacuum advance for anything other than getting out of the hole. After that mechanical is running the show.
@joshgre111
@joshgre111 6 жыл бұрын
manifold vac is not correct to tee into as the vac drops to 0 at WOT. Correct advance will not be achieved
@stuckinmygarage6220
@stuckinmygarage6220 5 жыл бұрын
Finger in the hole! Classic. Thanks.
@onewhoknowsrevenge6807
@onewhoknowsrevenge6807 4 жыл бұрын
Toilet paper works better.
@jimmysapien9961
@jimmysapien9961 3 жыл бұрын
@@onewhoknowsrevenge6807 wrong Hole 😳
@joewarrick6043
@joewarrick6043 9 ай бұрын
I got a great deal on a jump starter .I borrowed my dads lol😂
@bhsmooth1063
@bhsmooth1063 4 жыл бұрын
I bought this same distributor for my 302....i had a efi engine I swapped to a carb set up.please!!! Tell me how and also where the number one spark plug wire starts cause it does not show the number on cap! Thanks in advance!
@1D10CRACY
@1D10CRACY 4 жыл бұрын
There is no specific position for #1, as you technically can use any of them to start off on.
@bhsmooth1063
@bhsmooth1063 4 жыл бұрын
@@1D10CRACY seriously?? like literally just start number one anywhere I want?? and then plug up the rest for firing order??
@1D10CRACY
@1D10CRACY 4 жыл бұрын
Set the engine to top dead center on cylinder 1, line any one of the 8 positions of the distributor and button to a position and that will be your number 1 position.
@jimmysapien9961
@jimmysapien9961 3 жыл бұрын
@@1D10CRACY true, but it throw off your Plug wires if each one went to a certain spark plug !
@INTERNA9
@INTERNA9 2 жыл бұрын
Thanx
@ericblachek5993
@ericblachek5993 3 жыл бұрын
How do you know were to put the numbers on the cap?
@1D10CRACY
@1D10CRACY 3 жыл бұрын
The numbers on the cap are the firing order. One starts where your rotor is when you have the engine set to top dead center on cylinder one.
@ktate2002
@ktate2002 2 жыл бұрын
What was that spark at the starter solenoid @ 2:40 time mark?
@1D10CRACY
@1D10CRACY 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think it was a spark. I think it was just a reflection of light off the silver sticker.
@ktate2002
@ktate2002 2 жыл бұрын
@@1D10CRACY Sure sounds like I near a snap at the same time I see a flash. No matter, excellent video and much appreciate you for sharing it.
@joshuadavis8937
@joshuadavis8937 2 жыл бұрын
Advance auto has them for 24.99. A nice decently built one
@blueslim6622
@blueslim6622 4 жыл бұрын
Do you have a link for the the distributor?
@1D10CRACY
@1D10CRACY 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry I do not, I purchased it on eBay.
@jimmysapien9961
@jimmysapien9961 3 жыл бұрын
Go to DUI PERFORMANCE - website 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@matthewmccormack420
@matthewmccormack420 Жыл бұрын
2:40 did you ground out? lol
@teresadundom2713
@teresadundom2713 5 жыл бұрын
T0 rolling stones
@David-fl4xw
@David-fl4xw 2 жыл бұрын
What if the engine has no timing marks on it?
@jalenhawkins8931
@jalenhawkins8931 Жыл бұрын
Have u found out where they are. I'm having same problem. I have a line on camshaft but can't find another mark to go off of
@David-fl4xw
@David-fl4xw Жыл бұрын
@@jalenhawkins8931 not sure. There was a bump/nipple on my crankshaft pulley that when put under a timing light would show where it’s sitting. It had one of those pointers coming off of the timing cover. Every engine is different, this was on a 390 fe.
@jalenhawkins8931
@jalenhawkins8931 Жыл бұрын
OK. I have a 403. Im going to check today
@Repute_x
@Repute_x Ай бұрын
How do you know your at 14, also do a follow up video
@1D10CRACY
@1D10CRACY Ай бұрын
You can see the needle point to 14 when the timing light flashes. The video really doesn't warrant a follow up.
@Repute_x
@Repute_x Ай бұрын
Yeah I rewatched it, I understand now. Thanks man
@elizabethfoley2311
@elizabethfoley2311 2 жыл бұрын
Badging is wrong. The LH SlR/5000 had the decal in front of the front wheel, th 1976 LX SLR/5000 didn't.
@1D10CRACY
@1D10CRACY 2 жыл бұрын
There are no wheels, this engine is in a boat. LOL
@carbonconnection2480
@carbonconnection2480 4 жыл бұрын
You have the motor in backwards... the distributor goes in the back 🤣🤣💪
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