Fine Sponge Filter vs Coarse Sponge Filter: Which One is Better?

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Prime Time Aquatics

Prime Time Aquatics

4 жыл бұрын

Hello Everyone,
In this video we compare the fine sponge filter to the coase sponge filter and see which one is better.
If you would like more information on filtration take a look at some of these videos below!
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@PrimeTimeAquatics
@PrimeTimeAquatics 4 жыл бұрын
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@affordablelawnservice5091
@affordablelawnservice5091 4 жыл бұрын
Someone should make a sponge filter that is course on the outside medium in the middle. Then fine on the inside. With the ability to come apart for cleaning. I run fine and coarse in the fish room
@mountainhobbit1971
@mountainhobbit1971 4 жыл бұрын
I agree whole-heartedly and I was just about to add the exact same comment as you. Thanks, now I don't have to! ;-)
@shadeaquaticbreeder2914
@shadeaquaticbreeder2914 4 жыл бұрын
I commented this and then found your comment 😂 I think it's a great idea
@kristenwinter8157
@kristenwinter8157 4 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing as I was watching the video.
@affordablelawnservice5091
@affordablelawnservice5091 4 жыл бұрын
I’m looking at buying my own sponge and making them
@gem9535
@gem9535 4 жыл бұрын
We need a DIY on this NOW
@raycooper2287
@raycooper2287 4 жыл бұрын
You should put a plastic sandwich bag around sponge then remove from tank, less debris in tank. All in baggie...I do this on hob filters as well.
@sardineRN
@sardineRN 3 жыл бұрын
I'm going to try that tomorrow!
@armanduval.83
@armanduval.83 3 жыл бұрын
I prefer the coarse because they never clog and they are an excellent complementary bio filtration.
@snoopdogg734
@snoopdogg734 4 жыл бұрын
Very informative as usual, great breakdown for every level of fish keeping. .appreciate it.
@sudbrinkacademy
@sudbrinkacademy 4 жыл бұрын
For my more heavily planted tank that has floating and stemmed plants, the coarse sponge works better as an intake on my canister filter. I tried a fine intake sponge first and it was clogged every few days from tiny bits of organic matter. The coarse sponge lasts until water change day, no problem. In my other tank, which runs solely on sponge filters, the fine sponges work great! Not so many plants in that tank. Great video as always! 👍🏼
@samabad95
@samabad95 3 жыл бұрын
I have literally been searching for a video like this for days!!! Thank you!
@PrimeTimeAquatics
@PrimeTimeAquatics 3 жыл бұрын
Hope it helped!
@marcruic3556
@marcruic3556 3 жыл бұрын
I've also found the course ones are really good if you have a big pleco. I have a 7 inch common and the course is great for grabbing its long poops and capturing them
@agentsmith2399
@agentsmith2399 4 жыл бұрын
Another informative video! 👍
@martyborst5645
@martyborst5645 4 жыл бұрын
I really like the sponge that with my two aquaclear 110’s. Couldn’t be happier. Thankyou for covering this topic.🐠😀
@PrimeTimeAquatics
@PrimeTimeAquatics 4 жыл бұрын
That's a nice combo! :-)
@joec2174
@joec2174 3 жыл бұрын
You are a valuable addition to this hobby !!
@PrimeTimeAquatics
@PrimeTimeAquatics 3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate you being here!
@frankn4576
@frankn4576 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this video. I have been keeping fish for many years and never used a sponge filter. After a few canister disasters and flooding I am converting my main tank 40+ gallons to two air driven sponge filters. I watched a few videos where the youtubers had very negative opinions about fine filters and I was beginning to second guess myself with my purchase. Your video is very informative and gives the pros and cons of each. So thank you for that. Oh btw, I enjoy watching your channel I have learned a lot.
@PrimeTimeAquatics
@PrimeTimeAquatics 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! Glad it helped.
@sharronmiller451
@sharronmiller451 4 жыл бұрын
Always love your info!!
@PrimeTimeAquatics
@PrimeTimeAquatics 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Glad you are here!
@heaven7360
@heaven7360 4 жыл бұрын
LOVE your aquariums!
@PrimeTimeAquatics
@PrimeTimeAquatics 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@KaveManAquatics
@KaveManAquatics 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that Jason, Ive always used the course sponges as a standard, And one of the biggest things I hate is trying to clean them and releases all the gunk right back into the tank. I dont mind spending a bit more time cleaning a fine sponge...gonna give the fine sponge a try, Great video! 👍
@migueleespinosa2632
@migueleespinosa2632 4 жыл бұрын
Try using a zip lock bag before you remove them from the tank. The dirt drops into the zip lock bag and not the tank
@letsgobrandon4601
@letsgobrandon4601 4 жыл бұрын
Very insightful, thank you
@thebushchechen
@thebushchechen 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid bro 👍🏽👍🏽 it gave me to info I need cheers 🍻
@madfishdiva
@madfishdiva 4 жыл бұрын
Really good information Jason. I use a lot of prefilter sponges on my HOB. I lower the water levels and place a bowl under the filter to catch the waste. Hope you and your are healthy and in good spirits.
@PrimeTimeAquatics
@PrimeTimeAquatics 4 жыл бұрын
Nice idea!
@farmert9679
@farmert9679 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent info. Very informative. Have to get some fine and use with the coarse that I have.
@PrimeTimeAquatics
@PrimeTimeAquatics 4 жыл бұрын
Can be a nice mix.
@pancudowny
@pancudowny 4 жыл бұрын
I've found that going with a coarse sponge in the HOBs attached to my under-gravel system to be ideal, as it saves me from cleaning them so often. I also use a fine sponge on the inlet of the third HOB on the tank, to add area for bio-filtration and extend the service of the mechanical filtration's floss piece. So basically, the coarse sponges help extend the service of the fine sponge between cleanings! ;)
@aquariumlife6646
@aquariumlife6646 4 жыл бұрын
I find when its time to clean the sponge filter a course sponge does not pick up as much as the fine. If the fine sponge is getting blocked clean it more often and get a better pump.
@LindenEdwards
@LindenEdwards 4 жыл бұрын
Loved this video. 10 solid minutes. Included a few extra side points other videos I've seen didn't like regards to sand sifter fish etc. Personally. I run dozens of aquariums but none over 4ft. Near all on mostly fine sponge filters or HMF. HMF FOR THE WIN!
@plumber1331
@plumber1331 3 жыл бұрын
Love your and your wife's videos I just added a sponge filter to my 150 high boy I do have an fx 4 on it but Just wanted to add a little bit more filtration down at the bottom of the tank. The one I used is a fine sponge..
@monaangela4667
@monaangela4667 4 жыл бұрын
I have fine sponge in all of my tanks right now and its working so well. 👍👌👍
@kristenwinter8157
@kristenwinter8157 4 жыл бұрын
Very good video!! I have both types. But I’m glad your brought up that which one is better for cichlids. I’m going to buy one for my 75 and getting ride of my canister soon.
@PrimeTimeAquatics
@PrimeTimeAquatics 4 жыл бұрын
They are a lot easier to maintain!
@redsev4484
@redsev4484 4 жыл бұрын
Depending on the type of tank, Substrate etc, I find too fine Clogs too easy thereby diminishing effectiveness. 20ppi works for me as a happy medium. Poret is the best product on the market IMO. Lasts a lifetime and can be cut in any shape to fit in canister trays or bought ready for Spongefilter/Mattenfilter use. Coarse is generally 10ppi and fine 30ppi as far as I know.
@spandexmicrophone
@spandexmicrophone 4 жыл бұрын
Can't think of a better view for my Saturday morning coffee time...
@PrimeTimeAquatics
@PrimeTimeAquatics 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for being here. :-) Hope you have a great day!
@byrguy1295
@byrguy1295 4 жыл бұрын
ya :)
@ejfishes7610
@ejfishes7610 4 жыл бұрын
I tend to use a combination of both, great breakdown as usual!
@PrimeTimeAquatics
@PrimeTimeAquatics 4 жыл бұрын
That can be a good idea! :-)
@chrisdittmer5502
@chrisdittmer5502 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Great comparison
@PrimeTimeAquatics
@PrimeTimeAquatics 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@MikeDaVet
@MikeDaVet 4 жыл бұрын
I've never really paid close attention to the pores size in my sponge filters, but after seeing this I may have to re evaluate. Most of my sponge filters are secondary filtration so I figure even with coarse sponges I'm still on top if my game.
@James_Hande
@James_Hande 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video Jason! I've found that fine sponge filters do a better job in my tanks, especially my bare breeder/rearing tanks. I'm now using the double sponge filters and clean one each week alternating. Tanks stay crystal clear and I don't worry about losing my biological cycle.
@chadcrotts870
@chadcrotts870 4 жыл бұрын
I like the coarse ones as they are not my primary filtration. I only maintain four tanks each of which have either a canister or hob. In that application the coarse ones are used primarily to provide gas exchange and harbor nitrifying bacteria. For reasons you stated they require very little cleaning to pick up and drop into a qt/hospital tank when the need arises. However I do have a betta tank with a fine sponge filter as the only filtration. Like you said in the video it really boils down to the purpose the filter will serve. Thank you for sharing your experiences and knowledge!
@nuclearme639
@nuclearme639 4 жыл бұрын
This video is really helpful. I am setting up a ten gallon breeder tank and I couldn’t figure out if course or fine filters are better and you answered my question. I chose the fine filter
@PrimeTimeAquatics
@PrimeTimeAquatics 4 жыл бұрын
Good to hear!
@Neocaridina
@Neocaridina 4 жыл бұрын
I've had fine sponge filters in my neon and guppy tanks for about 15-16 months, and I have never cleaned them. My neocaridina shrimp pick it clean. I've been waiting to do the whole squeeze in aquarium water deal, but haven't had the need.
@mpwall123
@mpwall123 4 жыл бұрын
My struggle with this is, your pump or impeller needs to be strong enough to accommodate a fine filter. I find the output is restricted when I use a fine.
@PrimeTimeAquatics
@PrimeTimeAquatics 4 жыл бұрын
Good point!
@xenonram
@xenonram 4 жыл бұрын
Sponge filters don't have pumps. They run on air.
@georgevavrik7303
@georgevavrik7303 3 жыл бұрын
Andrew Delashaw they use an air pump
@aquariumhacksbymarcus5653
@aquariumhacksbymarcus5653 4 жыл бұрын
Course sponge filters are good for hang on the back and canisters and powerheads if you are just running an air pump then the fine sponge filters will do a good job as of now I only use course my canisters Hang On The Backs and my air pumps great video
@aquariumanalytic754
@aquariumanalytic754 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great vid
@hauntedsoul1000
@hauntedsoul1000 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you the info
@lewiscory6352
@lewiscory6352 2 жыл бұрын
Again more amazing videos
@PenBoyRoy
@PenBoyRoy 2 жыл бұрын
Hello. I am new to fish keeping, and am finding your channel super helpful! Youre a great speaker! I thought you were Keith Jardine at first too lol. Thank you for all the great content and information!!
@davidsamsell2031
@davidsamsell2031 4 жыл бұрын
Wonderful video presentation. Thanks. 📺
@PrimeTimeAquatics
@PrimeTimeAquatics 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@Glorious_Kim_Jong_Un
@Glorious_Kim_Jong_Un 3 жыл бұрын
*There's very fine filters on both sides* bigly
@kaquarium7888
@kaquarium7888 3 жыл бұрын
Another excellent video! I set up my linear piston pump last year and converted the whole fish room to sponges. At the time, I bought about 2/3 fine filters and 1/3 coarse filters, thinking I would get the best of both worlds. I've since been replacing all the coarse sponges, as I just don't like them. I clean the sponges weekly during water changes, so I'm not worried about clogging, and I HATE the mess the coarse sponges make when pulled out of the tank, even if cleaned weekly. I might be a bit OCD about the tanks, so I'd rather spend the extra time squeezing that fine sponge in the sink rather than try and siphon out a million waste particles from my tank. So fine sponges are by far my preference. Also, one final (important!) point about the fine sponge filters is that they won't suck in tiny fry, which can definitely happen with coarse sponges.
@PrimeTimeAquatics
@PrimeTimeAquatics 3 жыл бұрын
I agree - we use way more fine sponges.
@chisavagecichlids4788
@chisavagecichlids4788 4 жыл бұрын
Always love seeing the Star Sapphire in your videos.😁
@PrimeTimeAquatics
@PrimeTimeAquatics 4 жыл бұрын
They are great fish! :-)
@tpaquatics
@tpaquatics 4 жыл бұрын
I like both I have fine in my Jack Dempsey Fry tank
@markhunter2244
@markhunter2244 4 жыл бұрын
Very informative 🤓
@HalfManHalfCichlid
@HalfManHalfCichlid 4 жыл бұрын
I have achieved what I consider the perfect sponge combination on my Accuclear 110 HOB's. I put a large coarse block on the filter intake, and use the much finer sponge in the filter that comes with the filter. This extends the maintenance of the sponge in the filter from 10 days to about 80 days so far. Doubles my surface area for biological filtration. The filter return water flow does not slow liked it did before as the filter sponge clogged so fast.
@PrimeTimeAquatics
@PrimeTimeAquatics 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a good setup!
@James-ye7rp
@James-ye7rp 4 жыл бұрын
I have sponges in every tank, including 150 g cichlid tank. If my canister or HOB fail, there is a very limited amount of time to get them going before real problems arise. With sponges, a power failure could occur and when the power returns there is no problem with them starting again, as well as the O2 in the water keeps the bacteria alive. I tend to use canisters only as mechanical filters.
@raycooper2287
@raycooper2287 4 жыл бұрын
I use fine sponge as pre filter, it picks everything up and saves having to change poly in filter all the time., I rinse them every day or other day.. in tank water... I've waited cause they looked good and surprised when I did clean them how much gunk was in the pre filter sponge...alot of debre , but clear water .
@jonruger
@jonruger 4 жыл бұрын
In my larger tanks 40+ I use one fine and one Co-op course one to catch different size stuff
@PrimeTimeAquatics
@PrimeTimeAquatics 4 жыл бұрын
Nice idea!
@RobbyNowell
@RobbyNowell 4 жыл бұрын
Man, I literally just googled this 20 hours after you posted. Talk about timing! I have a Hikari fine in a 10 gallon fully planted with 8 cherry shrimp. I probably don't even need it other than for circulation, haha. Tiny bioload. I have a couple of the Aquarium Co-op sponge filters also, and was curious about fine vs coarse. Their's seems pretty coarse, so I may buy another tank and play around with them.
@PrimeTimeAquatics
@PrimeTimeAquatics 4 жыл бұрын
Ya, Aquarium Co-Op sells a nice coarse sponge filter.
@FoolyLiving
@FoolyLiving 11 ай бұрын
I bought enormous corner sponge filters that are triangular and go in the back corners (2). They are fine. How far away from the glass is optimal for using these filters? Also, should they be cleaned once a week since it's fine? Every time I clean ANY of my filters, I get a bacterial bloom. That makes me put it off for a longer time. None of my filters pick up poop either. Should I be directing some flow on the bottom of the tank to get it moving toward the filter? It all just sits on the bottom.
@PrimeTimeAquatics
@PrimeTimeAquatics 11 ай бұрын
I clean all filters every week. Once the cleaning is consistently every week the blooms go away. The filter placement isn't a huge deal since there will still be more than sufficient area exposed forward-facing. Sponge filters generally do a bad job of picking up stuff from the bottom of a tank - there just isn't enough flow-through for that (we get that with gravel vacuuming).
@roggy001
@roggy001 4 жыл бұрын
I've only ever used fine filters. I had one that over the course of several years kind of broke down and stayed shrunken looking. I wish I knew which brand, but the material must just not have been as good as all the others I've owned.
@aorjarsrelaxingvideos6126
@aorjarsrelaxingvideos6126 2 жыл бұрын
Thankyou I now bought a large sponge filter and my fish tank after 24 hours is the cleanest it's ever been Thankyou Again
@PrimeTimeAquatics
@PrimeTimeAquatics 2 жыл бұрын
Good to hear!
@parkeradams4522
@parkeradams4522 Жыл бұрын
The filtering efficiency of sponge filters increases over time because as the particulate layer increases and acts as a filter. This principle is also seen with thick sludge blanket layers in clarifiers, sludge thickeners, and sludge dewatering filter presses.
@amymandeville8342
@amymandeville8342 2 жыл бұрын
I have the AQQA dual sponge filter I got from Amazon and it was a serious love/hate. My favorite thing about it is it's almost perfectly silent. I wish there was a HOB filter that quiet!
@johnwood738
@johnwood738 4 жыл бұрын
Got out today with restrictions then came back to your video,it’s a good day. Tomorrow is the most important day of the year 52 on the tenth.
@PrimeTimeAquatics
@PrimeTimeAquatics 4 жыл бұрын
Happy Birthday man! Hope you have a great day!
@johnwood738
@johnwood738 4 жыл бұрын
Prime Time Aquatics thank you
@AZTECPLATOO
@AZTECPLATOO 3 жыл бұрын
I have both, I have a 20 long and a 10 both with coarse sponge filters since I have HOBs on both. But my 5 gallon quarantine tank has a fine sponge filter because I really really need it to biologically and mechanically filter the tank as best as possible since I'm usually medicating the tank.
@kbalaz
@kbalaz 4 жыл бұрын
have you ever made your own sponge cut from say a bulk piece of medium density foam? I have a couple of big blocks of foam, I cut them to fit as a pre-filter, was thinking of cutting one to replace my fine sponge on one of those double sponge filter types.
@PrimeTimeAquatics
@PrimeTimeAquatics 4 жыл бұрын
I generally don't, but might at some point in the future. :-)
@suman5492
@suman5492 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks a ton for answering my question and providing all the details 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍 Luckily mine is a fine pore 😀😀.. I do a monthly cleaning.
@PrimeTimeAquatics
@PrimeTimeAquatics 4 жыл бұрын
Very cool!
@richardmaloney5566
@richardmaloney5566 4 жыл бұрын
I prefer fine because I only have 2 tanks and I enjoy doing maintenance. Also because I use them as pre-filters so a weekly rinse saves me a lot of time between actual filter maintenance.
@josephdy3341
@josephdy3341 4 жыл бұрын
For me the corse pad is ideal if you use a powerhead. It has mose mechanical capability qnd is suitable for larger debris. But if you are using sponge for mechanical, i think its better to rethink your option
@marypaigeflynn4512
@marypaigeflynn4512 4 жыл бұрын
Since all my tanks are under 20 gallons now, I've been using more of the fine types and added a coarse-filter to my HOB. You are such a great teacher... I always learn something new every time I watch you. Jason, maybe you could put us together a aquarium based biology homeschooling series for kids that are out of school now. I know my 12 year old grandson would Love it😁♥️🐟🌱🌿
@PrimeTimeAquatics
@PrimeTimeAquatics 4 жыл бұрын
Now that is an interesting idea!
@deborahoskwarek1059
@deborahoskwarek1059 4 жыл бұрын
So helpful! Looking forward to sparking water with finer sponge filter. You have a good wife. Take good care of her.
@jennifermartin4415
@jennifermartin4415 4 жыл бұрын
Do you use a UV system on your tanks? Your my favorite Aquatic fish KZfaqr. You Get right to the point. Can’t wait to get my 55 up and running. Using a lot of your advice. Tell the wife I love her Aqua Scapes. ILL use my 10 for a betta next.
@PrimeTimeAquatics
@PrimeTimeAquatics 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I have one canister filter that has a UV bulb, but other than that, no. They can be useful as a treatment option when fish a sick if the microbes are in the water column though.
@DannyLove1169
@DannyLove1169 4 жыл бұрын
Great video Jason. I was wondering what brand was the coarse sponge filter? I'm looking to buy one for my tank
@PrimeTimeAquatics
@PrimeTimeAquatics 4 жыл бұрын
Usually if I'm going to use coarse sponge filters Aquarium Co-op is a good source.
@jamesgreen9372
@jamesgreen9372 4 жыл бұрын
I always learn something from your videos. In this case, even though we have sponge filters, I never thought that much about pore size. This brings up a question: If one wishes to change the sponge, what does one look for in the replacement? Does material matter? What pore size is course or fine? How does one know the sponge will fit the apparatus? Can we make our own sponges and must they be round? Also out of curiosity: - What is the sponge lifespan? - if one stores a sponge dry, do the bacteria revive when wet in the next use? Thanks for keeping us informed and thinking, Jim
@PrimeTimeAquatics
@PrimeTimeAquatics 4 жыл бұрын
All great questions - they don't have to be round. I know a number of people who use sponge blocks. As far as replacements and material - it's all about the sponge quality. For fine sponge I use a lot of ATI hydros, for coarse Aquarium Co-Op sponges are good. With quality sponges I expect at least 4-5 years with weekly cleaning.
@jamesgreen9372
@jamesgreen9372 4 жыл бұрын
Prime Time Aquatics , Again a novice question, what are the clues that the sponge of a sponge filter is due for replacement?
@jimanast3593
@jimanast3593 4 жыл бұрын
I bought an aquarium 14 years ago. After a big interval of 7-8 yrs not running, I had to cycle & used new bacteria, from the same bottle (keptin the fridge) I added the old ones! For security reasons, I was patient, for bacts to be surely established. The answer is that they don't survive on dry sponge, an organism who does so, has to live in a spore form of life, these don't.
@jimanast3593
@jimanast3593 4 жыл бұрын
After 14yrs of use & storage (as mentioned), both sponges begun to collapse and fall apart w/ small particles leaving when treated by hand... a situation which normaly begun unnoticed much earlier (even 1-1.5 yrs), as I rarely mess w/ filtration to clean it. I use& clean tactically my mechanical filtration (2 sided filter wool, coarse white, fine green, w/ green as the first stage, I use the white part as a duct for water to push debris on the way from inside to the outside of the green layer). So: according to my experience, 12 yrs is toooo loooong!
@vanschermerhorn7167
@vanschermerhorn7167 3 жыл бұрын
As always your video was great . However being a novice I'm just as confused as always because I only have one tank . Where I can't figure out Fine or coarse sponge . Thank you for taking the time for beginners .
@PrimeTimeAquatics
@PrimeTimeAquatics 3 жыл бұрын
I prefer fine sponges (much easier to clean and make less of a mess when cleaning). API sponge filters are a solid choice.
@nauticaldreamasmr8657
@nauticaldreamasmr8657 4 жыл бұрын
Usually use fine sponge for volume then again you have flexibility with the coarse sponge cutting out shapes and whatnot
@PrimeTimeAquatics
@PrimeTimeAquatics 4 жыл бұрын
Good point!
@codybrock3855
@codybrock3855 2 жыл бұрын
Ty maine
@agent-if9jb
@agent-if9jb 4 жыл бұрын
how do you determine the minimum amount of surface area needed for biological filtration, since so far its been all a guessing game even though you may have a successful nitrogen cycle such as 0 ammonia 0 nitrite and having established nitrates.
@nsta6408
@nsta6408 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing Video...sponge filters are great, only cons I feel is the space they take and the loud annoying oxygen pump to keep it running... I wish you make a video on your insights on tank without oxygen pump...they are so irritating...Surface agitation in an economical way, I am planning to use only a top filter with powerhead with an oxygen pipe and a hob filter for only water fall sound, what you think?😊
@PrimeTimeAquatics
@PrimeTimeAquatics 4 жыл бұрын
That could work. Our 50 gallon low boy is heavily planted and really only has an airstone in it at this point.
@HalfManHalfCichlid
@HalfManHalfCichlid 3 жыл бұрын
We need a in tank sponge filter with two layers of sponge- coarse and fine. This is what I do in my sumps I do 10, 20, 30 and 45 ppi. Sponges go for up to 9 months between cleanings and yield crystal clean water.
@eastcoastfishingchannel451
@eastcoastfishingchannel451 2 жыл бұрын
I've been using a coarse for for 4+ years never had a complaint
@aliciadifolcozahn4973
@aliciadifolcozahn4973 4 жыл бұрын
Love these! I'm a newbie! Recommendations for online livestock shops? Thanks so much!
@PrimeTimeAquatics
@PrimeTimeAquatics 4 жыл бұрын
You could try The Wet Spot. They have a big selection and their prices aren't too bad. If you are looking for shrimp and nano fish Flip Aquatics is a great option too.
@aliciadifolcozahn4973
@aliciadifolcozahn4973 4 жыл бұрын
Prime Time Aquatics Ah great! Yeah I've been stalking I mean emailing Rob at Flip Aquatics, got some nice plants, mystery snails, and neocaridinas from them! I will check out The Wet Spot. I've noticed most places I've visited, like Aquatic Arts, Aquarium Co-Op, and Twin Cities Guppies are super low if not completelty out of shrimp and guppies-even plants, wondering if it has to do with the pandemic? Also I'm intrigued by cichlids as I think the tap water parameters of where I live might align with what they need... going to do a lot more research and watch a lot more videos!! Thanks so much for replying and for your helpful videos!
@IceBreakerMD
@IceBreakerMD Жыл бұрын
After listening to your video & understanding my personal preferences, I’m gonna stick with a fine sponge filter. Based on tank size, what general dimensions of a fine sponge filter is recommended? I have a 16-gallon high tank. …. With that question, I do realize there are other factors , like: bio load, tap water composition & treatment, # of fish, types of plants, etc. Any guidance is appreciated. BTW, you’re videos are the best when it comes to the hobby. I truly respect and take your research & statements seriously. Thanks for helping my aquarium.
@PrimeTimeAquatics
@PrimeTimeAquatics Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@jimanast3593
@jimanast3593 4 жыл бұрын
I use coarse, then fine, later water passes through ceramic rings. 0 NH3/4, NO2 always (120 lts, lightly planted, w/low lights. After 14yrs of use & storage (storage 50+% of time), both sponges begun to collapse and fall apart w/ small particles leaving when treated by hand... a situation which normaly begun unnoticed much earlier (even 1-1.5 yrs), as I very RARELY mess w/ filtration to clean it. I use as first stage which I clean tactically my mechanical filtration (2 sided filter wool, coarse white, fine green, w/ green as the first stage, I use the white part as a duct for water to push debris on the way from inside to the outside of the green layer, when cleaning it).
@MsAngelap3233
@MsAngelap3233 4 жыл бұрын
Jason will you please do a segment on planaria..?
@PrimeTimeAquatics
@PrimeTimeAquatics 4 жыл бұрын
I will add it to the list!
@sammygonzalezjr.9858
@sammygonzalezjr.9858 4 жыл бұрын
I have a FX 6 with a sponge filter and I use a course one and it works now . Should I be worried down the road.
@PrimeTimeAquatics
@PrimeTimeAquatics 4 жыл бұрын
Not at all. That is a very appropriate mix. The canister is doing all the mechanical you need. The coarse is there more for biological filtration.
@chamika73
@chamika73 4 жыл бұрын
How often a fine filter to be cleaned in your experience? I got two of them (xy-380 size) in 75 gal tank and an undergravel filter.
@PrimeTimeAquatics
@PrimeTimeAquatics 4 жыл бұрын
We clean ours once a week.
@lukas______
@lukas______ 3 жыл бұрын
What kind of coarse sponge filter do you guys recommend? I cannot find many options. They don't really advertise coarse/fine that much in titles
@PrimeTimeAquatics
@PrimeTimeAquatics 3 жыл бұрын
Aquarium Co-op probably has the best
@petestockus1082
@petestockus1082 3 жыл бұрын
I put a small sponge filter I bought at Petco on my intake tube and it gets sucked to the tube and becomes ineffective. Any suggestions? Could it be filter?
@PrimeTimeAquatics
@PrimeTimeAquatics 3 жыл бұрын
Sometimes that happens as the sponge clogs?
@VIDEOHEREBOB
@VIDEOHEREBOB 4 жыл бұрын
Jason, found it difficult to buy a course version for the filter intake. Any suggestions on who sells a small course for a half inch tube?
@PrimeTimeAquatics
@PrimeTimeAquatics 4 жыл бұрын
Check Aquarium Co-Op? I thought theirs might be coarse?
@VIDEOHEREBOB
@VIDEOHEREBOB 4 жыл бұрын
@@PrimeTimeAquatics Thanks
@mitch9946
@mitch9946 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! I just have a question, how long would it take for a fine sponge filter to get all the good bacteria in it in a well established tank?
@PrimeTimeAquatics
@PrimeTimeAquatics 4 жыл бұрын
Great question - I would say about a month or so (if the tank is already cycled). A little longer if not.
@brianp6180
@brianp6180 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve never used sponge filters in my 28 years of keeping aquariums. I have been considering trying them out. Is there a medium density? Maybe that would be the perfect middle of the road
@PrimeTimeAquatics
@PrimeTimeAquatics 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, I have seen them. I think ATI has different types of sponge options.
@shadeaquaticbreeder2914
@shadeaquaticbreeder2914 4 жыл бұрын
Does anyone use a prefilter sponge inside a hob or internal filter and put filter media on the inside of the sponge. I use this in my smaller filters
@nuclearme639
@nuclearme639 4 жыл бұрын
I use an intake sponge in my hob filter. It is just a spare.
@gloriamaletta8667
@gloriamaletta8667 4 жыл бұрын
I do in a marineland 450 and 350 and 2 topfin 75s been using 1 inch thick 20ppi sponges at incoming filter water and 3/4 inch thick white sheets of filter floss before it's pumped back in to tank last filtering my reason is l like to get 3 weeks to month between cleaning the filters and l agree the finer sponge filters are better but when dealing with a HOB filter is it must flow without it backing up in the filter making it not pass the filter or flowing back in to the tank before the filter the reason l use 20ppi is it doesn't backup and with 40ppi or higher is to fine of a filter sponge at least while using HOB that's why the filler floss is used last it catches smaller particles without backing up pump that a 40ppi filters will do on HOB filter in a week also 2 inch is to thick of a sponge to use on HOB in my experience 1 inch sponge 3/4 filter floss waters last pass get 3 week to a month before cleaning l have the marineland 450 and a topfin 75 and a 350 gph powerhead connected to sponge filter on 75 gallon over stocked with cichlids and a marineland 350 with a topfin 75 on a over stocked mixed breeds 60 gallon and do 30 percent water changes once a week on both it's working well water is very clear and seems to be better than filter cartridges don't clean 2 filters at once alway switch back and fourth clean one not both at same time during cleaning split rotation every 2 weeks with monthly gravel vacuuming to much to often is also not good at least with mine weekly gravel vacuuming was to much better to go a month at least 3 weeks it's works on both tanks water is crystal clear other than after water change it takes 5 to 6 hours after water change to get back that super clear look again you want things clean in your filter and it may seem strange but for me my water looks clearer when it has small amounts of dirt not clogged or filthy filters just some dirt than one that has no dirt or is completely clean in my experience don't know why but I'm assuming it's got to do with the good bacteria which the more you have the better with 2 airstones in each tank slight to fairly strong surface movement at surface is a must no movement at surface is not good not like a whirlpool but it needs movement cichlids don't mind a decent current or water flow in tank while Angels need less but still need some a good airpump with airstones works good and the 350 powerhead with a sponge filter moves a decent amount of water for surface movement it has a airstone on it to pumping a lot of air or oxygen is also a good thing always clean your sponge filters in clean tank water of course that has been siphoned in a bucket never tap water if you do it will take a week after cleaning running it on pump to get this good bacteria back on filter that's a week your filter is not doing the kind of job it needs for healthy water and fish l feed my fish on Tuesdays Thursdays Saturdays and Sundays once a day usually at 6:00 pm small guppy feeders and bloodworms once a week bug bites tropical and omega one super color cichlid sinking pellets mostly but they get fed well on these days they do not eat Monday's or Wednesdays or Fridays
@fisharefriends598
@fisharefriends598 4 жыл бұрын
Fine is the best, ideally double stacked with a course
@maclainsxl
@maclainsxl 4 жыл бұрын
Fish Are Friends to double stack them do you take the bottoms off and fit them together or do you have to modify them
@urbansk8r231
@urbansk8r231 4 жыл бұрын
Double stack may be more efficient but I font want a filter that's gonna stand out in my tank
@jton1
@jton1 4 жыл бұрын
If I am running two coarse sponges each side of my 20g long, would it beneficial to have one fine and one coarse?
@PrimeTimeAquatics
@PrimeTimeAquatics 4 жыл бұрын
Depends on stocking level and type of fish. You probably aren't going to go wrong doing that though. :-)
@therandomman6647
@therandomman6647 7 ай бұрын
Coarse if it is on its own, fine foam if it has other, more efficient filters. I like to let the sponge filter polish the water, and the big filters get the big stuff. This way, both filters can go longer without cleaning, neither is useless, and you don't need to dig through filter media as often.
@shadeaquaticbreeder2914
@shadeaquaticbreeder2914 4 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know if it'd be "better" to have a course outer part and finer inner part for a sponge filter? Idea is that the course would hold larger debris that would clog the finer faster. Pls l k if this is wrong or whatnot
@PrimeTimeAquatics
@PrimeTimeAquatics 4 жыл бұрын
It's an interesting idea. I'm not sure in practice if it would show a noticeable difference?
@shadeaquaticbreeder2914
@shadeaquaticbreeder2914 4 жыл бұрын
@@PrimeTimeAquatics wasn't sure if it'd help to not clog as fast but I guess nothing works as good as maintenance lol
@andystokes8702
@andystokes8702 4 жыл бұрын
It's a bit of a catch 22 situation, if you want to remove the majority of particulates from your water you need to be using a fine sponge but if you have a lot of particulates the fine sponge will clog a lot quicker which will then reduce the biological capacity. My choice is fine sponge and to adjust the maintenance schedule to suit. If that means cleaning it every three days then so be it, it's only a five minute job but I've only got the four tanks and I am retired so it's not problem for me. I'm not sure I would be wanting to clean the filters every 3 days on 20 tanks.
@PrimeTimeAquatics
@PrimeTimeAquatics 4 жыл бұрын
Ya it is. They both have their uses!
@RoundhouseAquatics
@RoundhouseAquatics 4 жыл бұрын
i have found (with hard water) fine sponges turn into a hard block where the coarse sponges dont
@pancudowny
@pancudowny 4 жыл бұрын
What brand have you used?
@randomtube8226
@randomtube8226 2 жыл бұрын
On the topic of mechanical filtration. What order should I place them inside a canister filter? Because on a hang on filter cartridge. It goes fine first, carbon, fine, and course last. It gets confusing because its almost like everyone has their own way of doing it. But nobody is showing the proper order of mechanical, chemical and bio filtration. What makes it even more confusing is when there is multiple of each type. I had to add a second canister just to make sure that I have all of them.
@PrimeTimeAquatics
@PrimeTimeAquatics 2 жыл бұрын
Watch just the first 15 minutes of this: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nNWnatyj3d3bgXk.html It's the same for a canister filter
@terrybebout5618
@terrybebout5618 4 жыл бұрын
Where do you purchase your sponge filters and what brand?? Ever considered a video on building a multi level tank stand?
@PrimeTimeAquatics
@PrimeTimeAquatics 4 жыл бұрын
It depends on what I am looking for. If I want coarse sponges - Aquarium Co-Op would be the place to go. If I want the fine pore sponges I usually buy ATI hydro sponges off amazon or from Jehmco.com.
@PrimeTimeAquatics
@PrimeTimeAquatics 4 жыл бұрын
I've actually done multiple videos on how to build double and even triple stands. I have two dedicated videos, plus almost every video where we added more tanks I share how we built the stands. :-)
@rocsocom3166
@rocsocom3166 2 жыл бұрын
I go for the fine sponge than course co-op filter to course and small tube plus air go pass the filter not to efficient
@mauricematla8379
@mauricematla8379 2 жыл бұрын
Answer as alway's. It depends.
@jefferymuffinsbobmarley6128
@jefferymuffinsbobmarley6128 Жыл бұрын
I got a coarse & fine filter to see which i like more. Good thing i watched this before, now I know not to put the coarse in the sand tank
@Pratik_Jani
@Pratik_Jani 4 жыл бұрын
Prime time aquatics it would have been better if you have mentioned desirable air pressure level for proper sponge filteration.
@PrimeTimeAquatics
@PrimeTimeAquatics 4 жыл бұрын
I don't because 1) That depends on the fish you are keeping and 2) there are variables regarding flow rate, mechanical filtration and biological filtration.
@rollerkitbird
@rollerkitbird 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video👍 I just purchased the Hydro Sponge Filter Pro by Aquarium Technology, Inc. on Amazon
@jeromehorn7333
@jeromehorn7333 3 жыл бұрын
in you multi tank do you use coarse or fine?
@PrimeTimeAquatics
@PrimeTimeAquatics 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely fine.
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