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Sleep Token fans are INSANE (wtf)

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Finn Mckenty

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Sleep Token fans are insane! Someone leaked a Sleep Token member's birth certificate, which made him delete his Instagram. Bad Omens fans are also crazy. What's going on??
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@FinnMckentyPRMBA
@FinnMckentyPRMBA 7 ай бұрын
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@tehgurl
@tehgurl 7 ай бұрын
Thank you.
@Szaam
@Szaam 7 ай бұрын
I love the idea of a woman in her 30s stumbling across this video and being reminded of the MCR fan fiction she wrote as a teenager
@johnb.shakoor2352
@johnb.shakoor2352 6 ай бұрын
Jesus im getting old. When black parade came out i was in 8th grade and now im a fully grown adult with 2 kids lol
@pancakeburglar9361
@pancakeburglar9361 7 ай бұрын
Most fans respect the band’s anonymity but whoever posted the birth certificate is definitely out of their mind. Just so disrespectful of their privacy and just straight up creepy.
@CyGuyRy
@CyGuyRy 7 ай бұрын
Couldn’t agree more, this is also why we can’t have nice things
@GG-kn2se
@GG-kn2se 7 ай бұрын
Nobody even knows if it’s true, there is no evidence given that this has happened
@XViTNg
@XViTNg 7 ай бұрын
Posting birth certificates would be crazy. But Vessel and 2 identity is easy to find - you don’t need birth certs 😂 I think a lot of us figured out who vessel is cause we were hoping to find other bands he’s been in. Not because we really care “who he is”
@NoNameTesla
@NoNameTesla 7 ай бұрын
You say it wasn’t a fan but this is 100% a fan that did this. That’s a large portion of the fan base who are like this. I say this as a fan
@Affluent_Pomegranate
@Affluent_Pomegranate 7 ай бұрын
It was never posted. Stop believing lies
@shellbournian
@shellbournian 7 ай бұрын
imagine if Sleep Token was just a really elaborate ad for LifeLock
@vladtheinhaler8940
@vladtheinhaler8940 7 ай бұрын
Now that would be interesting.
@MyPPSad
@MyPPSad 7 ай бұрын
This is officially canon in the lore
@mikey13086
@mikey13086 7 ай бұрын
They got a promising career as matress salesmen after they are done.
@scottpoyer5678
@scottpoyer5678 7 ай бұрын
I'll be waiting for the Sleep Token social security numbers on the side of a truck.
@AEtrane
@AEtrane 7 ай бұрын
I don't think fans are crazier than before, I think social media has given them unfettered access to way more information. Now their insane assclownery has no limits.
@rubybaby7320
@rubybaby7320 7 ай бұрын
No, people are crazier. Our kids are taught in school that morals depend on the situation and that there are no over arching truths. Many have bought into the 200+ gender theory and believe that humans have magically changed (maybe through hair dye?)
@dash-x
@dash-x 7 ай бұрын
Bingo! The husband and I were just talking about this. In the 90s it would be some special about “Johnny from Cincinnati, the local kiss fan!” And their house would be floor to ceiling kiss merch. People in their fandom would all know Johnny and if your looking for something he’d probably be the one to talk to. Now with social media we can communicate far easier and with the clear web even, information is at our fingertips. There’s always that *ONE* person without boundaries sadly.
@Andjelka99
@Andjelka99 7 ай бұрын
I was also surprised how some people are acting like there were never crazy fans before. It was just different form but there were always crazy behaviors
@rebekahcarter8120
@rebekahcarter8120 7 ай бұрын
Exactly this!
@Just_niaxx
@Just_niaxx 7 ай бұрын
Thank u!!
@photobearcmh
@photobearcmh 7 ай бұрын
I went to a meet and greet at a Bad Omens show, primarily just to get a good spot on the rail. Noah was so clearly uncomfortable and instead of people just walking up shaking hands and getting a picture, these folks were asking them to pose and directing them like they were dolls. It was really gross. Do people not get these are human beings, not props for your IG? Yech. The whole thing was just really creepy.
@GG-kn2se
@GG-kn2se 7 ай бұрын
Could he not tell them he didn’t want to pose?
@RudolfHorvath
@RudolfHorvath 7 ай бұрын
@@GG-kn2se Yeah, and then there would be posts all over the internet that he was acting like a prick because he didn't let these spoiled children take selfies with him.
@evilervcowart6234
@evilervcowart6234 7 ай бұрын
Devil's Advocate, here... If I'm paying thousands of dollars to attend a band's Meet & Greet (Sleep Token typically charges between $1,000-$5,000) I expect to treated as a VIP. Didn't wanna be asked to pose a certain way but sure didn't mind "cashing those big checks", I bet.
@evilervcowart6234
@evilervcowart6234 7 ай бұрын
Devil's Advocate, here... If I'm paying thousands of dollars to attend a band's Meet & Greet (Sleep Token typically charges between $1,000-$5,000) I expect to treated as a VIP. Didn't wanna be asked to pose a certain way but sure didn't mind "cashing those big checks", I bet.
@evilervcowart6234
@evilervcowart6234 7 ай бұрын
Devil's Advocate, here... If I'm paying thousands of dollars to attend a band's Meet & Greet (Sleep Token typically charges between $1,000-$5,000) I expect to treated as a VIP. Didn't wanna be asked to pose a certain way but sure didn't mind "cashing those big checks", I bet.
@robertbeecroft5570
@robertbeecroft5570 7 ай бұрын
Considering most of their hardcore fan base seems to be typical TikTok/reddit users, I’m not surprised about this at all. I used to say hardcore Harry Potter fans are the most emotionally pathetic people I’ve had the misfortune of interacting with. That was before I discovered TikTok and Reddit.
@M75248
@M75248 7 ай бұрын
Can't have any privacy and peace of mind with all those goons playing online detective
@ahorsewithnoname773
@ahorsewithnoname773 7 ай бұрын
As someone who knows very little about Harry Potter other than it was a popular book/film series, I'm curious what makes the hardcore fans so bad? I know JK Rowling is controversial but never heard much about the fanbase.
@M75248
@M75248 7 ай бұрын
@@ahorsewithnoname773 for example many hardcore HP fans take their supposed "households" so seriously it's like a zodiac sign to them. If you're not Gryffindor then don't dm me 💀 that and very destructive behaviour towards other fans. It's just fanatics replacing their lives and personality with fiction
@shannoncrisp911
@shannoncrisp911 7 ай бұрын
Well said
@FourPawsInTheGrave
@FourPawsInTheGrave 7 ай бұрын
Have you met Britney Spears fans? Holy shit!
@FLmetalhead
@FLmetalhead 7 ай бұрын
I remember, growing up, loving the mystery of a band that I liked without having social media and ways to follow them. We don’t need to know everything. The mystery is fun.
@PSZEMKI
@PSZEMKI 7 ай бұрын
If i knew they identities ot would ruin the band for me
@evank9847
@evank9847 7 ай бұрын
@@PSZEMKI weird but ok. Usually music/ musicians creating said music is what makes the band, but sure.
@PSZEMKI
@PSZEMKI 7 ай бұрын
@@evank9847 im not saying it makes the band but their music hita different if i dont know who they are. Its just music by someone who only care about making music and not fame
@jaredhicks1370
@jaredhicks1370 7 ай бұрын
I remember an interview with Corey Taylor, he was talking about how in the early days people would follow them trying to see them unmasked or snap secret pics of them. I gotta disagree Finn, that was weird back then too and it's weird now with Sleep Token. Ain't the music more important than who is behind a mask?
@Frederick0220
@Frederick0220 7 ай бұрын
His point is silly too. There was no social media in 1999-2001 when Slipknot was starting out
@joshguy5221
@joshguy5221 7 ай бұрын
Craig the only guy that still is mysterious.
@kidneystonermusic
@kidneystonermusic 7 ай бұрын
It should be, but Sleep Token is more about image and gimmicky than the music
@JB-qy1gx
@JB-qy1gx 7 ай бұрын
​@@kidneystonermusicthat's insane to even say 😂
@kidneystonermusic
@kidneystonermusic 7 ай бұрын
@@JB-qy1gx you know it's true. If they were dudes in black t shirts, no one would listen to them.
@DaverSleeps
@DaverSleeps 7 ай бұрын
The real fans of the band would never do something like this, we respect the band’s wishes to remain anonymous, these people are a different breed, not fans
@Chill-mm4pn
@Chill-mm4pn 7 ай бұрын
These people have a disturbing parasocial relationship with the band.
@SDREHXC
@SDREHXC 7 ай бұрын
People who call themselves “real fans” are a couple short hops away from being the type of person that would do this lmao
@Bigchinckalishious
@Bigchinckalishious 7 ай бұрын
I just looked up they’re identity’s like a normal person
@lewisb85
@lewisb85 7 ай бұрын
Guarantee it was a newsite after a story!
@darrenthetuber743
@darrenthetuber743 7 ай бұрын
The band Galactic Empire can sleep soundly as nameless Star Wars cosplayers with some sweet shredding
@brianalmeida1964
@brianalmeida1964 7 ай бұрын
Apparently, the person who leaked all this info on band members is named Anne and has stated in the past that they are not a Sleep Token fan. They have been threatening online to do this for a while now. Who in their right mind wastes all that effort and time gathering all this info and then posting it for something that they aren't even a fan of!
@chrisg9573
@chrisg9573 7 ай бұрын
This is what the Internet is and has been for a long time, people bitching about things they claim to despise.
@Just_niaxx
@Just_niaxx 7 ай бұрын
@@unbeatable617that’s what I’m saying cant you go to jail for this!
@Bonerboy205
@Bonerboy205 7 ай бұрын
Birth certificates are public documents
@bottomofastairwell
@bottomofastairwell 7 ай бұрын
@@Just_niaxx i sure as hell hope so
@clayfoster8234
@clayfoster8234 7 ай бұрын
@@Bonerboy205no it’s death certificates that are.
@Squiddy97
@Squiddy97 7 ай бұрын
I just hope we never have another Dimebag incident. 🥺 People need to just chill and join the tunes.
@groadytoady4292
@groadytoady4292 7 ай бұрын
Absolutely ghoulish behavior
@Breadmakerc
@Breadmakerc 7 ай бұрын
They should go full garage rock and become “The Sleep Tokens”
@pekerhed101
@pekerhed101 7 ай бұрын
They should go full ranchero and become "Fichas de Sueño"
@M75248
@M75248 7 ай бұрын
​@@pekerhed101Recipiente (Formerly Vessel): ¡ADOREN!
@joeytocd
@joeytocd 7 ай бұрын
Ascensiónismo. 😂 ​@@pekerhed101
@todd_halfacre
@todd_halfacre 7 ай бұрын
This : Be amazing
@jeffreyramsaur796
@jeffreyramsaur796 6 ай бұрын
Like Asking Alexandria 😢
@KMFDM781
@KMFDM781 7 ай бұрын
This is what happens when a band like Sleep Token or MCR is accepted by a more mainstream audience. I hate to say it because it's cringe af, but people who are into pop music do this kinda crap. Metalheads or people into heavy music don't generally act creepy over bands and band members. It's when the music and bands start getting the attention of teenagers and more pop minded kids that this starts happening.
@purrpocalypse
@purrpocalypse 7 ай бұрын
This is what happens when your supposedly evil cult band actually sounds like Imagine Dragons with a british vocalist that somehow sings with an American country accent.
@Just_niaxx
@Just_niaxx 7 ай бұрын
It was the same with PTV too so many girls wrote fan fics on the members
@chrisjohnson1387
@chrisjohnson1387 7 ай бұрын
​@@purrpocalypseahhh so it's the bands fault this is happening to them... They should have known from the beginning and instead made music that you liked...
@purrpocalypse
@purrpocalypse 7 ай бұрын
@@chrisjohnson1387 That would have been cool. I was mostly memeing though, but they do have a very generic sound that I don't understand the appeal of.
@chrisjohnson1387
@chrisjohnson1387 7 ай бұрын
@@purrpocalypse luckily there's also bands like Gaerea and Imperial Triumphant for those who prefer a heavier sound. I love the diversity 🙂
@sarahcheever2229
@sarahcheever2229 7 ай бұрын
People idolize band members and forget that they're human. Concert etiquette is in the trash now too. They're about to ruin concerts and music as we know it. Who in their right mind would invade someone's privacy like that.. it's honestly disgusting. I don't even listen to sleep token but if this is true, my heart just sinks for them.
@leolapennington264
@leolapennington264 7 ай бұрын
Thank you!!! Concert etiquette has been deteriorating for a hot minute but now I won't even go near the pit because it's just frikkin rude now.
@Nailbombb
@Nailbombb 7 ай бұрын
Not really a fan of them but this shouldn’t have happened to them. They don’t deserve this
@IbrahimMuhammad_114
@IbrahimMuhammad_114 7 ай бұрын
They don’t observe this
@OptimusNug
@OptimusNug 7 ай бұрын
@@serafaus dude, it’s entertainment. Thats like blaming Josh Brolin if he got harassed because Thanos snapped away Iron Man. Crazy people’s actions don’t get justified because they failed to recognize entertainment.
@sarahcheever2229
@sarahcheever2229 7 ай бұрын
​@@OptimusNugexactly. 👏👏👏
@Just_niaxx
@Just_niaxx 7 ай бұрын
⁠@@serafausit’s not a cult they are dressing up cause it’s for entertainment and it’s apart of their band image.
@GG-kn2se
@GG-kn2se 7 ай бұрын
@@Just_niaxxDo they have that as a disclaimer anywhere? Do they say this themselves?
@xxenthusedgames1540
@xxenthusedgames1540 7 ай бұрын
I'm not even a sleep token fan but i hate this whole situation. It's ridiculous that people can't be anonymous and do what they love. Anyone who doxxes anyone should honestly do some jail time cause that shit can get people killed (looking at you sssniperwolf)
@SirMaski
@SirMaski 7 ай бұрын
The fact people can get exposed for doxxing and face no repercussions is absolutely ridiculous. Those same doxxers would be the ones crying and DEMANDING justice if it were to happen to them
@xxenthusedgames1540
@xxenthusedgames1540 7 ай бұрын
@@SirMaski i 100% agree. It makes no sense at all. It's literally the biggest reason why I've never tried to get big on youtube or twitch or anything
@monirogue1570
@monirogue1570 7 ай бұрын
People are mad about this. I wouldn't be surprised if they already know who they are and are giving them hell. The internet can be a ruthless, unforgiving place. And if someone is perceived as being deserving of hatred there's always those who feel vilified in being willing to take it too far.
@chrisjohnson1387
@chrisjohnson1387 7 ай бұрын
And then you get those people that blame the band for the way they sound...they imply the band brought it on themselves I guess
@monirogue1570
@monirogue1570 7 ай бұрын
@@chrisjohnson1387 just shows how truly disgusting people choose to be rather than understanding, reasonable and compassionate.
@jakegenocide
@jakegenocide 7 ай бұрын
Cute aggression is not a recognized, psychological disorder, it is a thing that happens, but it isn't a mental illnesses, disorder, or condition.
@jakegenocide
@jakegenocide 7 ай бұрын
It's caused by the dopamine release from the brain perceiving a reward while the serotonin builds from the positive emotions of seeing something cute. It's an evolutionary trait, that 50% of people will experience.
@kdean509
@kdean509 7 ай бұрын
Just like Isla Fishers character in Wedding Crashers
@valerierodriguez8561
@valerierodriguez8561 7 ай бұрын
Obsessive fans have always been a thing, but the internet has exacerbated their existence and intentions. Bjork's stalker comes to mind
@CountGremlin
@CountGremlin 7 ай бұрын
Finn's Alex Jones impression is not bad 😂
@scottpoyer5678
@scottpoyer5678 7 ай бұрын
In previous generations it was common to not even know what a band looked like, forget anything actually personal. Now, with everyone having so much easy access to information it has created a feeling from some people that nothing should be inaccessible. It's crazy that I've watched the death of privacy in my lifetime.
@TankTheTech
@TankTheTech 7 ай бұрын
God damn I hate that you compared me to Alex Jones, but man… I’ll accept that one. 😂
@epusion
@epusion 7 ай бұрын
If the birth certificate leak is real, why is everyone assuming it was leaked by a fan and not just a troll?
@claytonmitchell5685
@claytonmitchell5685 7 ай бұрын
That’s what actually happened, apparently. The person claimed they weren’t a fan and seemed to have malicious intent behind leaking the birth certificate, not creepy obsessive fan energy
@StrictlyStarsky
@StrictlyStarsky 7 ай бұрын
I am so glad we’re talking about this being weird. Back in my days I when I was a fan of MCR and the bisexual innuendos was a real thing amongst the teen girls. It was creepy then and it’s still creepy now, especially when things like doxing is really becoming a very real scary thing. It never ends well. If ST is doing their shenanigans for a new album or single, or pulling a Ghost rebranding themselves. I am here for it and I’ll be excited for their next project. If they did have a psycho stalker, I hope they have pretty good lawyers and they will figure it out.
@tonepursuit7110
@tonepursuit7110 7 ай бұрын
Omg! I thought you were guna say they maybe leaked a photo of their face or something but birth certificate is a whole other creep level!!
@blackbombtattoo1277
@blackbombtattoo1277 7 ай бұрын
Leo Faulkner - Vocals Adam Pedder - Drums Dave Ball - Bass Rhys Griffiths - Guitar
@MrGreenman447
@MrGreenman447 7 ай бұрын
When I started listening to Sleep Token in 2018, I never expected this level of insanity 😂
@ratskraad5890
@ratskraad5890 7 ай бұрын
He trying to flex he heard then first 😂
@dannyatx
@dannyatx 7 ай бұрын
@@ratskraad5890cuz it is the fans are weird now 😭
@LeXontr
@LeXontr 7 ай бұрын
How the fans destroy the things they love is tragic. You could see it from time away something would go wrong since it's has become a CULT.
@LeXontr
@LeXontr 7 ай бұрын
@@serafaus Same. Still love their music but the fanbase damn they are TOOL level bad.
@M75248
@M75248 7 ай бұрын
It's always the crazy ones who ruin all the fun. ST fans became so parasocial they can't draw the line anymore
@LeXontr
@LeXontr 7 ай бұрын
@@M75248 It's just sad. Love embrace support your favourite bands NO DOUBT. Don't worship them and get addicted to them though. That's where ST fans crossed the line. They turned love to obsession.
@LeXontr
@LeXontr 7 ай бұрын
@@serafaus No words to describe this.
@Just_niaxx
@Just_niaxx 7 ай бұрын
Nah fr fans did this with All Time Low back then they founded Alex’s house and left gifts and same with Melanie Martinez fans doxxed her then she had to move.
@rubaidaallen2764
@rubaidaallen2764 7 ай бұрын
This is absolutely ridiculous. WTF? Whoever did this needs to be prosecuted and punished severely. No one should have their privacy invaded like this. Absolutely unacceptable. I’m not a Sleep Token fan. I’m not familiar with their music and I’m not interested in finding out about it, but as a human being I’m very sorry this has happened.
@colonelhstinkmeaner8547
@colonelhstinkmeaner8547 7 ай бұрын
We don't even know if it happened in the first place.
@rossh2386
@rossh2386 7 ай бұрын
Loosen the grip on those pearls
@nolovedrjones9668
@nolovedrjones9668 7 ай бұрын
@@rossh2386 Grow up
@mariposa00
@mariposa00 7 ай бұрын
Ok calm down
@Callon4968
@Callon4968 7 ай бұрын
If the "leaked" birth certificate is legitimate, then any prosecution runs the risk of truly ending the band's anonymity. We saw it with Ghost and Tobias Forge. Ghost was revealed because of the court case. If one member of Sleep Token was revealed through a court case then it would end up being the whole band in the end. So right now either Sleep Token reveals it was legitimate (from a safe location) and pressed charges (ending their anonymity) OR they continue to say nothing with the goal being to keep their anonymity while the world wonders if the four birth certificates that were "leaked" are actually legit or not. Option 1: Legitimize the Drama Option 2: Ignore the Drama
@raymndmark
@raymndmark 7 ай бұрын
"its only a matter of time until someone gets hurt" this is exactly how ive felt about the tswift insanity. Unfortunately im fearful we may end up coming to the point of another John Lennon type situation.
@ANYHOO0
@ANYHOO0 7 ай бұрын
Christie Grimmie...
@NobodyAwsum
@NobodyAwsum 7 ай бұрын
Dimebag Darrell...
@NobodyAwsum
@NobodyAwsum 7 ай бұрын
Xxxtentacion
@zaynes5094
@zaynes5094 6 ай бұрын
@@NobodyAwsumAnd then it was Christie Grimmie. The psycho dude who was military and went AWOL and the dude who thought he was her boyfriend of long distance but they had been together for 4 years. Like that level of insanity is different.
@InkAndPoet
@InkAndPoet 7 ай бұрын
To answer your question of why someone would do this, my best guess is for bragging rights. To say "haha I get to be the person who publicly uncovered the true identities of Sleep Token!" It's like how J. Jonah Jameson was so adamant on uncovering Spider-Man's identity.
@Cymoar
@Cymoar 7 ай бұрын
It’s a shame that Sleep Token’s fan base is being considered toxic now. As a fan of them since Sundowning, I would like to say the whole fan base is not like this. Idk why people can’t just appreciate a band without disturbing them
@baotrangia3981
@baotrangia3981 7 ай бұрын
To be fair, crazy people has always been around, it's just that internet culture and the internet itself embraces this type of behavior and allow these types of people to not face the consequences. In the case of Bad Omens it happened because Noah is a handsome guy. In Sleep Token's case this sounds more like an anti fan trying to ruin the band and the gimmicks (not that it makes any of this acceptable).
@ratskraad5890
@ratskraad5890 7 ай бұрын
Exactly also SP needs to understand that they got big cuz of tik tok
@endjentneeringclub
@endjentneeringclub 7 ай бұрын
​@@ratskraad5890 not really an excuse for someone to doxx em,
@Iyashikei-t4u
@Iyashikei-t4u 7 ай бұрын
Was thinking just that. There have always been unhinged people in any fandom, the internet just gave them more possibilities to do absolutely heinous stuff and even get away with it. I've seen it with a podcast I used to follow not that long ago. Let's just hope the birth certificate thing isn't true
@scottsmith198
@scottsmith198 7 ай бұрын
​@ratskraad5890 what does that have to do with being doxxed?
@opart
@opart 7 ай бұрын
Would youtube please stop suggesting anything about Sleep Token?
@rainmaker395
@rainmaker395 7 ай бұрын
I respect them wanting to be anonymous. The bigger slip up was Apple Music using their real names as the song writers when Take me back to Eden was initially released.
@GhostSpydr
@GhostSpydr 7 ай бұрын
My cousins are in a band and they had a stalker pack up and move from another country and show up on their doorstep like 2 years ago so he could be with one of them. Fans can be completely unhinged.
@zaynes5094
@zaynes5094 6 ай бұрын
@GhostSpydr Happened to a K-pop Idol who is loved by many fans. Most are kind but not pushy. These two super obsessed fans though are, far and wide crazy obsessed with anything she does. She noticed he would comment on any posts she'd make on Ig, he would post reacting to her post, he would make videos on YT saying he was coming to visit his 'gf' and I saw one video of his and I thought it was a joke, but the dude is seriously A+ level stalker and just super creepy. Her name is Nayeon in Twice btw. I don't like K-pop really, I like Dreamcatcher and that's about it, but her situation is just sad.
@magnolias646
@magnolias646 7 ай бұрын
The band fic reminds me when Ronnie Radke was on stream reading the description of a fanfic about himself adopting the fic writer from an orphanage. Hearing it out loud makes it all the more strange.
@Andjelka99
@Andjelka99 7 ай бұрын
I also love that person who wrote that went and deleted the work when they saw it bothered Ronnie, and was umbarrest in the comments of the video I saw about it
@SurgicalStrike41
@SurgicalStrike41 7 ай бұрын
I love Sleep Token, but I have always hated the psychotic fangirl energy the fanbase gives off. We don't want stans in metal
@cyclonus83
@cyclonus83 7 ай бұрын
Man, I don't think I've ever actually seen my birth certificate
@callum2463
@callum2463 7 ай бұрын
As a huge sleep token fan, I fucking hate sleep token fans
@cressfresh99
@cressfresh99 7 ай бұрын
Finn: I don't really know why someone would do this or if it even really happened. Also Finn: *showcases examples of how insane and stalkerish some fans can be* 😂
@ninjaninjanesisninja
@ninjaninjanesisninja 7 ай бұрын
Imo knowing their identities doesn't actually change anything, they're still Vessel, II, III and IV. But leaking their personal documents is completely disgusting and would be no matter what artist it happened to. Sleep Token as a lot of complete fangirls, who fawn over them the same way we emo kids fawned over Warped Tour bands in early 2010's. At least in the 2010's, we mostly kept our weird thoughts and ideas to our own little corner of the internet. I think with the rise of TikTok and especially Sleep Token's popularity with "The Summoning" on the app, fans find them very sexual and think it's okay to go absolutely feral for them. I've had to leave several Facebook group because of the cringy, gross sexualization of the band members. The boys do somewhat encourage it with their on-stage antics, but I'm afraid that's making the fans feel like they're entitled to do and think whatever their want regarding the band in broad daylight. And they no longer just keep it to their own little corner of the web.
@monirogue1570
@monirogue1570 7 ай бұрын
You make a great point with that! They do have a sexual nature to their act and their music. But that's similar to the case of: if she was wearing a mini skirt and showing off her body did she deserve to be raped? I mean hopefully everyone would agree no. Being sexually appealing and even flaunting it does not excuse being abused/mistreated. However, we both know there's plenty of people who think if they're "asking for it" they deserve whatever happens. We actually see people defending that "logic" all the time. And I do think we are seeing this behavior in much of the fanbase. So many people women and men alike want to jump their bones and it's palpable. But these men are here to tour, make music, and make money... not sleep with all their fans LMAO. It's always been insane to me that people think it's okay to treat others so poorly with no respect.
@Sk84Dayz17
@Sk84Dayz17 7 ай бұрын
Unfortunately their identities were/is going to come out at some point. Either by themselves or the fans. The internet made it easy for stalkers to look things up. We will know all of their names, where they grew up and who their friends are by the end of the year. Im actually surprised the band didn’t assume that was going to happen in the first place
@CMill78
@CMill78 7 ай бұрын
Who they are and where they're from has been online for years.
@198clm
@198clm 7 ай бұрын
Thing is - a simple google search will tell you who they all are. I don’t really get why someone would feel the need to find out more than just their names
@iskandertime747
@iskandertime747 7 ай бұрын
When I was a teenager (pre internet) we had like 5 photos of The Misfits. And that's all we had.
@DominicDosdos
@DominicDosdos 7 ай бұрын
That was a pretty solid Alex Jones impression - which totally caught me off guard hahahahahaha
@shulasassi
@shulasassi 7 ай бұрын
Kiss went through something similar back in the 70s. They went to great lengths to not get photographed without their make-up on, so you'd occasionally see a news story where a fan was hanging off the balcony at a hotel trying to get a pic of them without the facepaint.
@danteshollowedgrounds
@danteshollowedgrounds 7 ай бұрын
I'm not gonna lie I probably would have deleted all of my social medias too if that happened... The whole Kpop & Corpse Husband phase is just unfortunate too.
@teaguecogdill1473
@teaguecogdill1473 7 ай бұрын
I can’t with this!!! This is so terrible! We aren’t all this way I swear 😢
@Pigdestroyer666
@Pigdestroyer666 7 ай бұрын
I really hope this didnt happen and that they are just coincidentally hyping up for some new PR. Love this band so much.
@evank9847
@evank9847 7 ай бұрын
Why put on a clown show just for publicity? Good music speaks for itself, shouldn’t need to do all this extra shit with anonymity to keep people interested.
@mmdpod
@mmdpod 7 ай бұрын
That Alex Jones moment needs to be a short 😂😂😂
@UFOCULTVHS1
@UFOCULTVHS1 7 ай бұрын
they shoukd be worshipping Sleep (the band)
@dylansmith7370
@dylansmith7370 7 ай бұрын
We went through this with Kiss, we went through this with Slipknot, and we will again with the next masked band
@nickudeschini4812
@nickudeschini4812 7 ай бұрын
I wish this was a metal thing but sadly I've seen this kind of thing happening everywhere. Terminally online people just don't respect boundaries the way people used to.
@bottomofastairwell
@bottomofastairwell 7 ай бұрын
it's not even that people dont' respect boundaries like they used to. cuz even way back when, musicians like elvis had crazy ass stalkers. i think the problem is that with social media and the internet, more people than ever have unfettered access to everyone else, so you see way more of the crazy shit. cuz in the past, if you were that crazy, you'd have to go and follow them IRL. now you can stalk people online and doxx them. it's so much easier to be an unhinged asshole with the internet and completely disregard other people's boundaries
@JiggyWilson
@JiggyWilson 7 ай бұрын
Stephanie Meyer started writing Twilight as MCR fanfiction. She wanted them to be in the movies SO badly. The song "Vampire Money" is about it.
@faerie2007
@faerie2007 7 ай бұрын
I don’t think this is where things are going. Things have already been this way. There are always going to be crazy people that infiltrate a fandom and cross boundaries. They do not represent the majority, though, and never will. Crazy people , just like negative people, will always be the loudest even though they’re the smallest group.
@MJ-vd8bj
@MJ-vd8bj 7 ай бұрын
Their whole anonymous gimmick is just as cringe as their new fanbase. Everyone knows their real names at this point lmao
@delix787
@delix787 7 ай бұрын
How do you even get someone’s birth certificate? 😖
@meganwalker27
@meganwalker27 7 ай бұрын
Right, I can't even get a copy of my own without 3 other forms of ID and an appointment with the government.
@Jasonmakesvideo
@Jasonmakesvideo 7 ай бұрын
Somebody's gotta sign the record deal. Also , the royalties have to point to someone.....the whole concept of "doxxing" public information blows my mind
@Frederick0220
@Frederick0220 7 ай бұрын
Of course this didn’t exist with Slipknot. There was no social media in 1999-2001 lol
@Andjelka99
@Andjelka99 7 ай бұрын
NOOO NOT THE MILK FIC BRO WHY, last thing I expected to see/hear today 😭😭
@JerryO1995
@JerryO1995 7 ай бұрын
This sucks. I hope they don't stop making music or anything after this, but this really sucks and they wouldn't be wrong if they did.
@RadicalReviewer
@RadicalReviewer 7 ай бұрын
The obvious problem...female fans. Once your band has a single female fan, you better call it quits, or they'll ruin your life.
@JonnyFoxx
@JonnyFoxx 7 ай бұрын
I remember when Hollywood Undead first came around and we all thought it was some anonymous supergroup of dudes from hardcore bands.
@ascenelongforgotten9682
@ascenelongforgotten9682 7 ай бұрын
Moral of the Story: if they're fans of a cult, they're insane lmao
@ninjaninjanesisninja
@ninjaninjanesisninja 7 ай бұрын
It is not ACTUALLY a cult, but more of a storytelling gimmick. But I can see how it could seem culty to people, who're not into it.
@systemofadownsyndrome7715
@systemofadownsyndrome7715 7 ай бұрын
Like christians
@TheNamesFathom
@TheNamesFathom 7 ай бұрын
@@systemofadownsyndrome7715LMAO
@microchrist6122
@microchrist6122 7 ай бұрын
@@systemofadownsyndrome7715 Cringe
@microchrist6122
@microchrist6122 7 ай бұрын
@@ninjaninjanesisninja cope harder
@kyllianharper2064
@kyllianharper2064 7 ай бұрын
Respect and appreciate your takes on this Finn. Definitely a messy situation. In regards to the person saying it “gave them stomach pain”, cut them some slack. They don’t need to “seek help”. Being highly internally upset that your favorite band may have just ended is absolutely a justifiable reason to have a physical reaction, that’s just how emotions affect the body. Of course it would be silly to go beyond this and start to take actual action in response to the news, but I found that specific take a bit reductive of the fanbase as a whole.
@monirogue1570
@monirogue1570 7 ай бұрын
My only issue with this video is he seems to take the stance of dissing the fanbase...the people that this news probably hurt the hardest. It's like way to put the salt in the wound by blaming us for something 99.9% of us weren't involved in and we're all upset by lmao. I would never have done something off the wall like this! And yeah what you're describing is often referred to as empathy pain. It's actually a reason a lot of people don't like watching horror/slasher content. It hurts them to watch someone get butchered. This isn't really different than that. That person felt a strong connection to the band and their music, and their body is reacting to the perceived "loss" of that connection much like grieving. It's 100% normal to feel pain while grieving.
@joshguy5221
@joshguy5221 7 ай бұрын
Nah Finns right, at the end of the day is just a fucking band, then again it's just kids.
@LitithsClaptrap
@LitithsClaptrap 7 ай бұрын
From what I heard, someone found iii's personal Twitch account and they found out more information from there, including the birth certificate. I love Sleep Token, but this is true insanity. People aren't entitled to band members' personal information.
@upnorth5716
@upnorth5716 7 ай бұрын
if you want to be famous/celeb type yes your info will get out there, stop being a stan
@Everrrrr
@Everrrrr 7 ай бұрын
Man, now I want a 5 hour long video of Finn reading me mall emo Panic at the Disco fanfic Ill listen to as I fall asleep 😂
@Koolaidsucks
@Koolaidsucks 7 ай бұрын
It’s TikTok’s fault and nobody will change my mind. People should be ashamed.
@iamjatan
@iamjatan 7 ай бұрын
I think music in general has had nutter fans like this for a long time, look at Swifties and going way back The Beatles and Elvis, they all have/had mad cult followings. Maybe we're just seeing more in metal now as it's getting more popular and having it happen to a band like Sleep Token who want anonymity just highlights it more?
@RB-jf5ww
@RB-jf5ww 7 ай бұрын
I actually think this has a wider western society implications. I think this comes from the fact that young men have lost belief in the systems and political apparatus. Peoples identify used to be based largely on national origin and large groups. Ie we were American. However, that has gone away and now we as a group identify more with smaller subcultures that become central to our identify. Young me hav always been the exporter of violence, they will do that but where will it be oriented and for who is the question.
@WingZeroGWO
@WingZeroGWO 7 ай бұрын
I think it's pretty obvious and should be said by everyone with a voice in the matter, that whoever engages in this type of behavior IS NOT A FAN. Fandom's respect and protect creators and content. Fandom's don't destroy the thing the claim to enjoy...stop calling these people "fans". They're trolls, trying to ruin the band and their fans' fun.
@Rabid-Polyphia-Fan
@Rabid-Polyphia-Fan 7 ай бұрын
Agreed, This is my take too. However it is possible that there are some irrational unhinged people who think themselves fans but chaos and destruction is what always follows them in their wake. Think: Annie Wilkes of Misery.
@gigidygigidy6078
@gigidygigidy6078 7 ай бұрын
When I had to get a new copy of my birth certificate I had to go to the county city building and show ID.
@NateTriplett
@NateTriplett 7 ай бұрын
Possibly worse than leaking a band members birth certificate would be if the leakers were wrong and it was a random guy not involved with the band at all. Just Imagine going about your day when a digital mob of fanatics interrupts, possibly harms your entire life for nothing but mistaken identity..
@oldestmate5836
@oldestmate5836 7 ай бұрын
Hell yeah - cool to see you're following your passion with this new program!
@ryanrowe1975
@ryanrowe1975 7 ай бұрын
It could happen when the Sleep Tokens posts social media is confusing
@sixsixST2
@sixsixST2 7 ай бұрын
It's the internet... A quick google search will get you their names.
@abatedmassofflesh
@abatedmassofflesh 7 ай бұрын
I thought they did it all for the nookie.
@TheEvilKingStan
@TheEvilKingStan 7 ай бұрын
I hate this band but I do feel for them. You could see it coming based on the fanbase online. I know it is probably for their rebrand or whatever, but I'd respect this band so much if they just packed up and told their fans "you don't deserve us."
@jxntxn1462
@jxntxn1462 7 ай бұрын
This is super random but does anyone remember that old website where people would make fan art of rock bands and upload it? This was back in like 2004 that we would be on there. The whole Slipknot thing reminded me of it...
@SinnyKitty
@SinnyKitty 7 ай бұрын
I remember at the peak of PTV and SWS, BMTH, etc other teens keeping tabs on what toothpaste the band members used and what they're favorite things were, what birthmarks they have on their body and other weird personal details I feel only their personal friends/family should know. I always thought it was too extra and creepy that all that stuff was on the Internet like Tumblr etc
@lezzpaul
@lezzpaul 7 ай бұрын
When I was literally 5 years old, I heard a Backstreet Boy was getting married. I assumed that meant he wouldn't make music anymore, and was sad and a little desperate feeling. But I said it out loud, and my mom said, "WTF are you talking about, married people make music all the time." Thanks, mom!
@OfficialBritta
@OfficialBritta 3 ай бұрын
“Don’t let sleep token fans be the swifties of metal.” Love that. Sleep Token TikTok and IG are insane and uncomfortable.
@pwntimejamboree8272
@pwntimejamboree8272 7 ай бұрын
As a Sleep Token fan, I couldn’t agree more. This shit is just sad. Just enjoy the music, folks. This shit isn’t serious. Plus, if you really want to know who the guys in ST are, it’s out there without having to resort to this. Shit is so dumb.
@AutumnsVeil.
@AutumnsVeil. 7 ай бұрын
There's a lot more to the story! Those of you that know, know! This isn't the first time it's happened. It's just getting worse and worse at this point 🙃 Leave the guys alone!! 😫
@michaelkozma5929
@michaelkozma5929 7 ай бұрын
I created a Tik Tok video on Sleep Token thats reached 160,000 views on that platform. Never seen any band spread like wild fire like this before.. Great band, I love them too. Most likely there have always been crazed fans in the music industry for decades, however the internet has helped birth the voluminous catacombs of mental illness spread across the globe.
@rossh2386
@rossh2386 7 ай бұрын
Weirdo magnet band attracts weirdo fans who’d have thought
@bmn133
@bmn133 7 ай бұрын
It happened to me! And I’m not even famous. Just a woman. They stole my ssn, my childrens, mine and my daughter’s birth certificates. My bank and credit card details. Photos of me my children my parents and grandparents. Pictures of inside my house. They made multiple fake profiles of me. I was hacked also and they stole thousands from me. The cops didn’t care! I never even got the money back. I was very careful. Be careful out there!
@DoodleDad
@DoodleDad 7 ай бұрын
I've seen a lot of general hate on Sleep Token content for no apparent reason. People really are mad that fans of ST are really excited about the music and I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't some estranged, mentally disturbed person took offense to it and tried to expose identities just to ruin it for their fans. Speculation, obviously, but I'm confused as to why people who don't like the band trying to talk shit to people who do. It's a very weird dynamic, people are taking the same tribalism from politics and bleeding over into music and genres-, sub-genres, etc.
@isaacrodriguez1365
@isaacrodriguez1365 7 ай бұрын
they are all mad because metallica's new album isn't that great comparing to sleep token
@ryfitadf4215
@ryfitadf4215 7 ай бұрын
Ghost fans: “first time?”
@chuckclark3214
@chuckclark3214 7 ай бұрын
This is part of what makes us human. Some of us just have this in us... It doesn't excuse the behavior, but we all need to know and understand this. There's people out there that obsess over a lot of other people, and do things like this. This has always been a thing, and it will continue to be a thing. There's not really any way to stop it. What do others suggest? We track every single one of these people down, and either shut their lights down forever, or lock them away? We're all "crazy" in one way or another. Some us just happen to understand that this kind of behavior, seen in this video, really ain't ok, but we're stable enough to know that. Others aren't... That was kinda messy, but hopefully whoever reads this gets what I'm saying...
@KillTheScreams
@KillTheScreams 7 ай бұрын
What ever is going on with them. They picked one hell of a time to when we got aliens in Miami…………
@danteshollowedgrounds
@danteshollowedgrounds 7 ай бұрын
7:24 A lovely impersonation of that madman lol you should have an award or oscar by now.
@adoxographiccontent
@adoxographiccontent 7 ай бұрын
People have literally gotten unhinged in the last few years, I have no idea what the hell is going on. It's disgusting. What the hell is wrong with people.
@chrisjohnson1387
@chrisjohnson1387 7 ай бұрын
Unfortunately metal heads are now finding out what occurs in the wider music industry in regards to fandom...
@kiara800
@kiara800 7 ай бұрын
This crazy inappropriate behavior by fans has been around forever but you just see it more commonly towards pop groups/boy bands etc. People will form weird parasocial relationships with the band members and lose all sense of appropriate boundaries.
@Nestorglass
@Nestorglass 7 ай бұрын
Thing is, fans beeing creepy or even dangerous towards artists in rock and metal ain't nothing new, Oli Sykes probably has a few horror stories for example, but everything's escalating too far. Musicians need to set more strict boundaries with fans and viceversa so stuff like this or band members themselves acting weird won't/shouldn't be as common.
@captainawesome9380
@captainawesome9380 7 ай бұрын
Why are we assuming it’s a fan and not somebody who wanted to ruin the lore because they don’t understand why people like Sleep Token?
@davidgarvin1889
@davidgarvin1889 7 ай бұрын
This is just typical internet wierdo behavior. Literally any fan base has people who would do something like this, it’s not special to sleep token.
@cml4914
@cml4914 7 ай бұрын
The weirdest MCR fan fiction was about Gerard and Mikey. So gross. They said in interviews that they hated it.
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