Fire alarm ground fault trouble and crashing car into parking lot gate at elementary school

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NIC’S - SYSTEMS & ELECTRIC

Жыл бұрын

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@zachbrenner9959
@zachbrenner9959 Жыл бұрын
Dudes got an entire commercial fire alarm, access control, and intrusion detection system system in his garage. That's an impressive dedication to his work
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric Жыл бұрын
Hey thanks man
@davecSFD
@davecSFD Жыл бұрын
Firefighter here. Love your videos. We do basic protection systems stuff in the academy but not that much at all. More focused on sprinkler heads, sprinkler system types, and smoke head types (I had to memorize the temps for the different colored glass bulbs which I forgot pretty much immediately). I deal with malfunctioning systems daily. Your videos help me understand more about what I'm seeing at the panel. Thanks man. Appreciate it.
@peezyy3
@peezyy3 Жыл бұрын
Your videos are inspiring to me as a young technician. Thank you for your contribution!
@windows74001
@windows74001 Жыл бұрын
Love the old Shaw Cable logo to your right at 14:09! That's a throwback!
@bcrproductionsofficial
@bcrproductionsofficial Жыл бұрын
I think the bell at 18:40 is actually pretty common. My school has a bunch of those as well as 439Ds. I've seen lots of those in multiple different buildings. The GS bells at my school were installed in 1999, And the 439Ds were installed around 1993-1996.
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric Жыл бұрын
I have heard they’re quite rare as they were only produced from 1999 to 2001 I have seen a few to but I’m not sure if they’re the same motor bell version or if there’s a vibrating Bell version that looks the same
@ilektrokioydio
@ilektrokioydio Жыл бұрын
23:08 "mR gRoUnD fAuLt" why did I find that so funny lol
@Firealarmcollectorperson
@Firealarmcollectorperson Жыл бұрын
“Kids just come and rip this sprinkler head of the wall” That’s crazy lol. I’ve never seen that happen ever.
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric Жыл бұрын
Happens all the time
@captainchris2016
@captainchris2016 Жыл бұрын
@@nics-systems-electric will my elementary school had outdoor side sprinklers and it never happened I believe
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric Жыл бұрын
@@captainchris2016 They also like to light paper on fire and shove it through the cracks of the door at this school and put burning things up against the side every now and then lol
@Firealarmcollectorperson
@Firealarmcollectorperson Жыл бұрын
@@nics-systems-electric Damn! That’s crazy!
@Britey
@Britey Жыл бұрын
Nice video you are ensuring the safety of those kids!
@IanGSully
@IanGSully Жыл бұрын
Holy shit! You guys went though all that trouble, and almost thinking that you need to replace that whole system, and then later you find out that it was just the batteries? That's crazy!
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric Жыл бұрын
Yeah that was silly of us we should’ve disconnected the batteries and left it for a little longer
@achannelwithnopurpose1977
@achannelwithnopurpose1977 Жыл бұрын
@@nics-systems-electric gotta love ground faults lmao. Still would replace the system though on the grounds that it is obsolete hardware that was known for being not so good in the first place. An EST 4 retrofit would be perfect as EST sells a retrofit kit for the EST 2. I have seen the EST 4 in action, and even though I don’t like EST, I actually think that EST got it right this time. EST 4 is actually a nice system; it trips fast, is easy to use, and is VERY flexible for an alarm system. EST definitely took a massive leap in the right direction. A quick note though: in order to get the best performance, you may need to use the most recent detectors (SIGA optica), pulls (newest 278-SIGA), and A/Vs (Genesis G4) EST offers, because that was on the system i saw.
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric Жыл бұрын
@@achannelwithnopurpose1977 My district wants to go all notifier for easier maintenance for everything to be the same system so they would never go with EST anymore I don’t think no matter how good it is tho
@achannelwithnopurpose1977
@achannelwithnopurpose1977 Жыл бұрын
@@nics-systems-electric TBH i would too after seeing ESTs reputation. The EST 4 seemed kinda convenient in this case though because of the upgrade retrofit kit and in the fact EST didn’t mess up this time. I really think a small Notfier N16e would be perfect actually because Notifier already does what the EST 4 does (even in flexibility) but better.
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric Жыл бұрын
@@achannelwithnopurpose1977 They’re pretty well just the new version of the 320/640/3030 as far as I can tell I don’t think they have any advantage over them that could be needed for this system
@user-jt6of3hx9p
@user-jt6of3hx9p Ай бұрын
18:44 me when I zoom in my phone to the GS Bell at Shoppers Mall
@JessieMHadaller
@JessieMHadaller Жыл бұрын
The ending 😂😂 love it
@dabitzz
@dabitzz Жыл бұрын
I showed the title to my friend and he thought it said “fire alarm crashes into elementry school”
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric Жыл бұрын
That can happen
@LogicDoesStuff
@LogicDoesStuff Жыл бұрын
@@nics-systems-electric Such as chucking an EST Genesis to a window.
@DanTDMJace
@DanTDMJace Жыл бұрын
@@LogicDoesStuff😂
@benlinfoot4048
@benlinfoot4048 11 ай бұрын
I thought it was "fire alarm activated but then pushed into school."
@geekmoto1363
@geekmoto1363 Жыл бұрын
i could hear the trouble alarm, ground faults are a pain to diagnose
@joeycaridi3030
@joeycaridi3030 Жыл бұрын
Oh boy, the pain of having do deal with a ground on an Edwards panel. If it was on a Simplex panel then it would be much worse!
@mikeross880
@mikeross880 Жыл бұрын
What a weekend; first a crashed gate, then some honey and now a missing bell(HAHA just kidding no not really) congratulations on finding the problem. Interesting that it was simply a pair of bad batteries and not something more major. I kinda figured you'd just get a "batt low" message as opposed to "gnd fault" but I guess that's just what the more recent EST2's do. Now when a storm hits this winter and the power goes out the kids will be safe knowing the backup batteries work. Too bad with the system at my work as it had an internal fault and now they have to swap the whole system out. However rumour has it that L series horns will be replacing the bells so hoping to score a 439D before the work is done. Congratulations also on your bell score. Can you do a sound level test of that GS bell? Every time I hear one I swear they seem so much louder than the 439Ds and MB-24s combined. Amazing work Nic and what a great start to September
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric Жыл бұрын
Yeah it’s quite common for that to be a popular place on the weekends nighttime specific maybe I will do another bell vs bell test The batteries probably were still holding fine voltage so there was no reason for a battery fault but that they had a hole in them so there it was leaking electricity to ground
@captainchris2016
@captainchris2016 Жыл бұрын
Ah yes, you gotta love listening to est pizeo beeping for like 3-5 mins straight
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric Жыл бұрын
The best
@captainchris2016
@captainchris2016 Жыл бұрын
@@nics-systems-electric will in my opinion I like listening to the firelite pre es pizeo's (like the ms9200udls, ms10ud) the best especially when it does march time (which you can do with the right program)
@achannelwithnopurpose1977
@achannelwithnopurpose1977 Жыл бұрын
The school really was lucky they had an EST 2 for 20 years. Thing shoulda broke long ago because EST was ridiculously cheap. I will admit though, EST’s new products like the EST 4 has surprised me. Its a lot better than you may think. If the panel is really screwed, EST sells an upgrade kit for upgrading from EST 2 to EST 4. Im still a hopeless simplex and notifier enthusiast, even though EST has surprised me and exceeded my expectations this time.
@SomeDudeWithAnExitSign
@SomeDudeWithAnExitSign Жыл бұрын
EST has gotten a better but I don’t think they would top Simplex or Notifier anytime soon. EST needs to kill off the EST3 and the 3X and they would be good.
@achannelwithnopurpose1977
@achannelwithnopurpose1977 Жыл бұрын
@@SomeDudeWithAnExitSign Totally agree! They have definitely improved their standards, but it will still take time to surpass Simplex and Notifier which are major innovators which are known for their top notch products. EST still needs to burn off its cheap reputation with its older software based systems. EST 4, the newest SIGA, and genesis products seem to be a massive step in the right direction though. Weatherdan posted a video of these products in action and i was ultimately surprised by the performance of the system. Again, EST just needs to be doing more of that quality production and they will be at the top with Simplex/Notifier.
@SomeDudeWithAnExitSign
@SomeDudeWithAnExitSign Жыл бұрын
@@achannelwithnopurpose1977 Yeah. I would agree with you except the LED Genesis devices. I think they look hideous. I would’ve just updated the Xenon Genesis to have the Circuit board hidden. The older Genesises looked much better.
@achannelwithnopurpose1977
@achannelwithnopurpose1977 Жыл бұрын
@@SomeDudeWithAnExitSign the newer genesis doesn’t look that bad, draws less current, and can do continuous. I do think the older genesis looked more decent, but I think the G4 series is better overall.
@SomeDudeWithAnExitSign
@SomeDudeWithAnExitSign Жыл бұрын
@@achannelwithnopurpose1977 The G4s are fine but the GCs and G1s aren’t are my least favorite
@N1tr0_fox
@N1tr0_fox Жыл бұрын
Nice video keep up the work also I came first lol keep up the work is it going to be replaced btw?
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric Жыл бұрын
Thanks but no it’s not really high priority to replace this one
@marksmith-ew7ir
@marksmith-ew7ir Жыл бұрын
Battery's on constant charge fail due to heat issues or charging circuit over charging all so goes for emergency lighting pack's, but one great thing all the emergency lights and fore panel's you have you can scrap the battery's and get nice bucks for.
@justinhill8102
@justinhill8102 Жыл бұрын
Seems your from BC, based on a magnetic L I saw on your breaker panel in a previous video. Where do you get your new parts from?
@justinhill8102
@justinhill8102 Жыл бұрын
Also curious what alarm system you have and if the fire system is tied into it
@brianmohammed1790
@brianmohammed1790 Жыл бұрын
cool video and you know your stuff about elctriail stuff one day you work at for school eletratil tech
@topher8634
@topher8634 Жыл бұрын
Do you ever find leaking flow switches as a cause for ground faults? I see it often in my neck of the woods.
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric Жыл бұрын
Haven’t seen that yet
@animated_things
@animated_things 4 ай бұрын
Super good videos
@pacfilming8117
@pacfilming8117 Жыл бұрын
I want that GS bell too I think it’s at my old school.
@Uhh.thankyou
@Uhh.thankyou Жыл бұрын
we hit 118 yesterday or about 48 celisius. High of 82 for you is a way colder day for us.
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric Жыл бұрын
82 for us is pretty hot last year we did hit around the same as you though about 47 Celsius
@Uhh.thankyou
@Uhh.thankyou Жыл бұрын
@@nics-systems-electric ye, we are having a huge heat wave right now.
@pepsicityhomebuilding9752
@pepsicityhomebuilding9752 Жыл бұрын
I have a fire alarm control panel and it’s not working that good whenever I pull a pull station it does not sound I know the wiring is correct but it’s just not going off I’ve been trying to fix it these past two days
@Dawezil
@Dawezil 11 ай бұрын
At my school, ours is getting changed after 30 years. We had no problems with it but they decided to change it.
@cvalenx
@cvalenx Жыл бұрын
Ground fault on a short wire: 😁 Ground fault on a fire system: 😐 Ground fault on a fire system in a mall: ☹️ Ground fault on a semi truck: 🫠 Ground fault on a power line: 💀 Ground fault on a light pole system: ☠️☠️☠️
@michellebertrand7702
@michellebertrand7702 Жыл бұрын
Do you have any fire alarm testing videos at this school?
@captainchris2016
@captainchris2016 Жыл бұрын
You can check his channel for his last year video
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric Жыл бұрын
As I said in the video this year‘s one got deleted but last year is around
@West_Kootenay_railfan
@West_Kootenay_railfan Жыл бұрын
18:40 i have seen those bells in a hotel before.
@user-ig7pr4ws6z
@user-ig7pr4ws6z 5 ай бұрын
Hello! where do you actually buy all your stuff like panels, pullstations, detectors?
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric 5 ай бұрын
Wholesalers or eBay
@user-ig7pr4ws6z
@user-ig7pr4ws6z 5 ай бұрын
thanks! @@nics-systems-electric
@SWFLElevators
@SWFLElevators Жыл бұрын
It seems like this system was built to last. This being EST, and installed in 2002.
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric Жыл бұрын
It’s a miracle that it’s still working after 20 years
@16BitDoggo
@16BitDoggo 7 ай бұрын
20:52 according to another video your pool is _electrically energized._
@kashtonklein4608
@kashtonklein4608 Жыл бұрын
What caused the alarms to sound? Was it the water by the building? Or did your works set it off?
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric Жыл бұрын
I said in the video that the sprinkler guys were doing their testing
@kashtonklein4608
@kashtonklein4608 Жыл бұрын
Can you do a test video on your new rare GS bell?
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric Жыл бұрын
@@kashtonklein4608 maybe someday
@kashtonklein4608
@kashtonklein4608 Жыл бұрын
@@nics-systems-electric okay
@pacfilming8117
@pacfilming8117 Жыл бұрын
20:03 is that vibrating or motor bell?
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric Жыл бұрын
Motor
@pacfilming8117
@pacfilming8117 Жыл бұрын
I have a big request can you show me all the types of bells at this school one of them sounds nice I hear the notifier bells at my school
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric Жыл бұрын
All MB 10-24
@pacfilming8117
@pacfilming8117 Жыл бұрын
@@nics-systems-electric ok now time to test your present I want to hear the beautiful sound on all types of coding please
@pacfilming8117
@pacfilming8117 Жыл бұрын
The GS bell
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric Жыл бұрын
@@pacfilming8117 maybe someday
@pacfilming8117
@pacfilming8117 Жыл бұрын
@@nics-systems-electric other than 439D and Mb10-24 and GS what other fire bells do you own
@pacfilming8117
@pacfilming8117 Жыл бұрын
Test the test bell
@sebastianthegamer124
@sebastianthegamer124 Жыл бұрын
Since you hate simplex I think that simplex made the batteries cause a ground fault.
@HSETM
@HSETM Жыл бұрын
9:03 I'm sorry does that gate have a *DOOR CLOSER* on it???
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric Жыл бұрын
Yes
@defrimmehmeti4032
@defrimmehmeti4032 Жыл бұрын
can you film more troubleshooting videos
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric Жыл бұрын
Usually difficult in the schools when there’s kids all over the place I try to over the breaks
@topher8634
@topher8634 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like you have a ground fault of your own!
@matthewantonucci6751
@matthewantonucci6751 Жыл бұрын
Hey Nick I Would Just Upgrade This Whole System To A Napco Gemini Commercial Combo Burglar/Fire Security System Because I Love The Napco Products Better!
@NyxKemo
@NyxKemo Жыл бұрын
Napco Gemini is horrible
@matthewantonucci6751
@matthewantonucci6751 Жыл бұрын
@@NyxKemo Hey You Can't Say That Because I've Used Them And They're The Best And You Haven't Tried Them!
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric Жыл бұрын
@@matthewantonucci6751 are they addressable? I’m not a fan of those combination systems we don’t seem to ever use those in any buildings in Canada pretty sure that would not work not sure how that would work with graphic light up annunciator either if it has that capability
@SomeDudeWithAnExitSign
@SomeDudeWithAnExitSign Жыл бұрын
Combo systems are not really great for certain applications. That includes schools and High Rises.
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric Жыл бұрын
@@SomeDudeWithAnExitSign I wouldn’t think so they seem like a cheap cheap solution and not very capable
@mircomamsecohardwareandsafety
@mircomamsecohardwareandsafety 19 күн бұрын
did you get the est 2 that you destroyed from this school
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric 19 күн бұрын
No that school still has one
@mircomamsecohardwareandsafety
@mircomamsecohardwareandsafety 18 күн бұрын
@@nics-systems-electric oh ok
@pacfilming8117
@pacfilming8117 Жыл бұрын
Did the system get fixed?
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric Жыл бұрын
Just watch till the end of the video
@thethirdrail8397
@thethirdrail8397 11 ай бұрын
@ 5:27 Ricky Skaggs " Honey wont you open that door" I am not sure if this worked out for who ever put honey on the door at the school!! lol I have no Idea if the lyrics to the song are god for the 45 or not, as I believe this is a country soong, and I am into the rare 60's - 70s Rock! oh and yes I have the 45 to this song as well!
@KanoaDeCastro
@KanoaDeCastro Жыл бұрын
Is that a simplex GFCI?
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric Жыл бұрын
I would have thought so but then the other one started tripping too so I guess not
@KanoaDeCastro
@KanoaDeCastro Жыл бұрын
@@nics-systems-electric If it was made by simplex I would just about die laughing. 😂
@hulktheman232
@hulktheman232 Жыл бұрын
@@nics-systems-electric It is because the cord end is pushing the test button maybe
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric Жыл бұрын
@@hulktheman232 no
@nickcliff
@nickcliff Жыл бұрын
Yh i can hear the beeping
@nypdphoneprompts5735
@nypdphoneprompts5735 Жыл бұрын
8:11 what was it?
@KayneYT15
@KayneYT15 11 ай бұрын
I like your videos
@SomeDudeWithAnExitSign
@SomeDudeWithAnExitSign Жыл бұрын
I think it may be time for a 320.
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric Жыл бұрын
That would be nice
@carole234
@carole234 8 ай бұрын
I heard the beeping
@RingggoDoom1991
@RingggoDoom1991 Жыл бұрын
hay nic s there sumthing ronge with you camera i can see green purple mark on the video on the start of the video you see it just look were the fire poll stashen is
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric Жыл бұрын
Yes something is wrong inside the front facing camera not cool on the Iphones 12 Pro so still fairly new
@RingggoDoom1991
@RingggoDoom1991 Жыл бұрын
@@nics-systems-electric o ok i thourt i say sumthing i did not know that you new about it
@2000waynebraganza
@2000waynebraganza Жыл бұрын
@@nics-systems-electricim probably late but have you been around lasers? i used to see this a bit when i worked for sony on their DSLR cameras after a customer would use it around show lasers.
@KayneYT15
@KayneYT15 11 ай бұрын
Your videos of all of those fire alarms❤👍👏👌
@techanical243
@techanical243 Жыл бұрын
Honeywell notifier fire panel installation video fire panel 640E Loop card LCM 320
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric Жыл бұрын
Would be nice to put a NFS 320 C in
@techanical243
@techanical243 Жыл бұрын
@@nics-systems-electric Control module to addressble hooter canntion same & other type
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric Жыл бұрын
@@techanical243 huh?
@DanTDMJace
@DanTDMJace Жыл бұрын
@@nics-systems-electricybe he means "replace the cpu can with an addressible can for addressible"
@NewEnglandAviaton987
@NewEnglandAviaton987 Жыл бұрын
nic. = ground fault electrican = no there isnt
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