This was one of the most beneficial things we learned from doing this demonstration. One of the fire fighters doing the training suggested it, and are working toward making that happen. They had a couple other really great suggestions that we are looking to implement as well. Thanks for your feedback! We what to do whatever we can to make it easiest on those having to deploy the blankets!!!

@@FireCloakUSA Integrate water hoses into the blanket (all around the sides), which you can fill with water for weight. Keeping sure it will not been blown away and make it more airtight.

@@marwernowhy not just carry a few weights with it or a a hose you can fill off the truck and be reusable. Much cheaper than to manufacture in it.

yeah and having the edges weighted would be even more amazing. perhaps a hook up for the hose too?

that would be amazing - like have the edges be able to be filled with water@@marwerno

Thank you!

why is it desperately needed ?

@@williamsmit619 because in case you weren't aware Lithium batteries burn like hellfire when ignited.

@@williamsmit619research thermal runaway

@@williamsmit619electric vehicles are the future which means electric vehicle fires are too

They still burn up. One just did.

"fire suppression methods" What nonsense. More lies from Elon.

@@jhvorlicky yes, the glue between the cells is a fire suppression. There is also measures between the modules to prevent heat from spreading. Panasonic built those batteries. Feel free to look it up. This didn’t come from Elon, it’s public available data from Tesla.

Literally any lithium battery can have thermal runaway. It’s just in the nature of the design.

@@johnd9357 no, only lithium ion ones have the potential for thermal runaway, new LiFePO4 batteries are less prone to this issue due to their stable chemical structure. They are also incombustible, able to withstand harsh conditions, and less likely to release flammable gases or catch fire in the event of a hazardous event.

Thinking ahead, might they become EV mandatory like seat belts and other stuff. Helmets and respirators anybody?

good theory but impractical...should and "when" these fires occur the biggest problem is going to be toxic smoke inhalation, even those fire fighters with the hazmat suits are at risk , and most won't be covered up as they were for his "demo" , the blanket demo just show how dumb and dangerous and EVs' are, I wouldn't want to be on a road or near an EV fire, it is more lethal and quicker acting than radiation from nuclear fall out..

@@Mrbobinge there are people that have a drivers license but can't put the spare wheel on, and you expect them to act rationally, get the blanket out of the boot (most likely storage location), put it on while the thing smoking and maybe even have visible flames coming off of it? it just ain't going to happen, sadly

@@dghtr79_36 Following similar logic it means that no one ever carried a spare wheel 'cos some, couldn't be expected to act rationally. But if the city Mayor makes fire blankets mandatory.....?

@@Mrbobinge faulty logic, that driver may stop some other person on the road and ask for assistance with the wheel, but lets be realistic, noone, who will stop to assist a burning vehicle, will dig into the burning vehicles boot for the blanket, and at least for foreseeable future, electrics will remain a minority, so for this to work everyone will have to carry a blanket like that, and I'll guess they aren't exactly 0.99$ a piece so - fix the original problem - the battery, don't invent expensive bandaids there is another issue with these blankets - breathing in smoke, firefighters here used full face masks for a reason, because the smoke is trapped below the blanket, and as you're pulling it over, you're directly in the line of escaping smoke - I personally wouldn't even attempt this without full mask and bottle, and you expect drivers or passengers to do that, might be an option if it just lightly smoking, then you might have time to put it on, and it would be one man effort most of the time so, IMHO, not a good idea to make everyone carry these

if they hand this blanket to cover your house

Thank you!!! All great points and we have passed them to our team. We are working on a center reflective stripe to go down the middle of the blanket to make centering easy even at night. Appreciate your suggestions!!!

@@FireCloakUSAgood to see you are looking into recommendations!

Great suggestion!!!

Keep in mind EV fires take over 40,000 gallons to extinguish, and can reignite multiple times and sometimes have to be submerged for days until they are safe. A normal car fire may only take 1000 gallons. (NFPA)

Is it dangerous to approach a gas car like that? Aren’t they prone to explode?

For real.

@@dbendele ... I would think it is dangerous either way. But I would also say that it is even more important to starve the fire of Oxygen ??? The ABC fire extinguishers do the same thing by displacing Oxygen ... i would think a proper fire blanket would KEEP the OXYGEN from getting back and reigniting the wreck. I would think there would be a way to get the blanket over and dowsing the the wreck with Dry Ice or Nitrogen ???

@shrimpinpat Thank you! We really appreciate you sharing the video!!! 😊

Thank you!!! We are working on adjusting that with a reflective strip right down the center! We are also planning to work with fire departments to have grants written in order to get them the funding they need for EV fire suppression :)

Thanks for the feedback! All great comments!!! Love the clock especially. We originally planned to do this live so that it would be in real-time, but we had issues with the heat that day and some of the equipment failed. Definitely ideas we will use in the future!!!

Yes, this is what it was designed for...to contain Thermal Runaway and then cool down the vehicle.

Yes, the battery fire does not need oxygen. It needs to be cooled down to stop.

Cryotanks must vent and it would need to be replaced weekly at high cost.

​@@erty7012and gasoline powered ones aren't?

Thanks for the suggestion! That is a good idea. We will pass it along to the team!!!

Thanks!

Omg I'm a boomer and this production is horrible! It's worse than a late night infomercial

Literally

Until manufactures find a way to make them safer, what else can we do? shits are lighting up every day, this seems like a solid idea for now.

Gas cars catch fire too. I don't think it's reasonable to dismiss EVs cause they can catch fire. It's only interesting if they catch fire more often than gas cars, which so far it doesn't look like they do.

@@EvanCalder Interesting that the only measure you acknowledge or use in your evaluation is the frequency. Not the intensity, the severity, the duration, the toxins, nor the ability to extinguish.

More gas car fires than EV fires. More water used in total on all the gas car fires, when compared to EV fires. (In 100 000 combustion engine cars there are more fires than in 100 000 EV). Also, they said it can be used on gas car fires too. So you can hide that under that blanket too.

Haha! We actually have some bigger blankets for trucks. The bigger we make them, the more they weigh though. We are working on a solution to make the centering easier from the start though.

How about putting a center line down the middle of the blanket so each of the fire fighter's can see from their angle without having to say I don't have enough on my side.

Then some softcock would whinge about their windscreen or paintwork getting a "scratch". Best answer is BAN EV's from ferries.

Thanks! We are working on adding a reflective center stripe to make it much easier to locate the center! Appreciate your feedback!!!

Thanks! We suggest a single use due to the toxins covering the blanket. After use, send it with the towing company to wrap during transport, and then to the salvage yard to keep it covered for 30 days.

Thank you! Yes we are working on several of these changes right now. Yes, We do market it toward ICE, EV, and Hybrid vehicles. Most fire departments can put ICE fires out in minutes with less than 500 gallons of water. The EV and Hybrids are challenging using on average 10,000 gallons of water, multiple departments, and hours of time. Because of this our trainings and videos do focus on EVs and Hybrids, but yes they can definitely be used on any vehicle fire! Thanks again for your comments!!

Good suggestion! Actually one of the fireman mentioned adding some places where they could use their tools and hook the blanket and pull it back rather than using their hands. We are looking into adding these additional features. The magnetic idea is good too. That is something we haven't heard before. We can definitely look into it. The biggest thing to make sure of is that we don't add things to the blanket that will cause it be much heavier. Thanks again or your comments and sharing your ideas!

Battery fires don't need oxygen.

Nice suggestion! We partner with a company that actually sells a "grenade" of sorts called the Fire Suppression Tool or FST that can be deployed under the vehicle. It contains a chemical that quickly drops the temperature of a fire. Combined with the Fire Blanket USA, it would take less than 15 minutes for the vehicle to be cooled down enough to finish extinguishing the fire with water.

Do you wrap all your electronics? Don't be dumb... lol more iphones have burst into flames than EVs.

EVs are 6x less likely to catch fire than a regular car, 10x less likely to catch fire than a hybrid. So far, only some LG batteries in Chevy Bolts have had multiple problems. The news attacks EVs as much as they can. They report on a fire and then never follow up after the investigation shows the actual cause. For Tesla, all fires have had good causes where a combustion vehicle would have been more likely to burn... That ship fire? all the EVs were fine. Other cars, other stuff burned on that ship but all the EVs were fine... Literally will be sold... Propaganda against EVs for many years and pushed by social media companies as well...

Those statistics just use absolute numbers of fires: they fail to take into account that far fewer cars are electric. When you count for that, BEVs (and particularly Teslas) randomly catch fire much much more. The stats you parrot so unthinkingly also do not take into account the age of the vehicles

​@@jhvorlicky I know i'm no expert by any means, but even if it's true, if they only have 8% market share (as of 2022), 6x still don't even come close to making since. I know my moms friend had a Kia EV that caught fire last year and a friend of a friends 2020 Tesla that was gonna cost 16K to fix (not sure what the issue was) so they traded back for a normal car. Just the intensity of the heat alone, IDK, just doesn't add up over all, imma stick with my 89 accord, best first car ever, and like you said *account for older cars* that even makes it more out of place. I know some day they will take over, but i'll wait till they get all the kinks out first, no way i'd ever buy this stuff now or anytime soon. Charge time, infrastructure, cost of maintenance, firs risk, from what i know in the real world to what they say on TV just isn't adding up right now. Just the hype to please the greenies, but the greenies don't care about you. When they get it figured all out, i'll take a look, till then my 89 330K honda will keep driving on. Wonder how many EVs will make it 330K like my car Hmmmmmmmmm.

@@jhvorlicky Also, in the past like 10 years, i don't know anyone's (friends, friends of friends, family) normal cars that has caught fire. I've seen a few semi's on the interstate on fire before, but no cars around the city i live in.

Good idea! We have partnered with a company called Fire Suppression Solutions that makes a tool called the FST. Once you pull the pins on the FST, you throw it in and it drops the temperature of a fire by 1000 degrees every 35 seconds. This could be thrown into the EV first, then the blanket would be deployed. It would drop the temperatures even quicker! You can check it out at: firesuppressionsolutions.com/about-fst/

Thank you!!!

Please make these in several sizes! It would be great to have them for ebikes and in my case, a small one for my electric unicycle. This would provide huge peace of mind! I would order one immediately. Also, where can I invest? 😊

I think having one of these available on an airliner, but in a smaller pouch form, for runaways on laptops, phones, etc. would be a good idea. Naturally would need the FAA involved.

True! But with millions of EVs and hybrids on the road, the need will be there for some time. Additionally these can be used on ICE fires to make the process quicker and provide a containment option for places like parking garages, road tunnels, ferries, etc.

@@FireCloakUSA sorry, didn't mean to imply that we don't need these blankets, they are a great idea. It just sounded like EV's seemed to be taking a center stage in your video. I agree with you that going forward, they can be leveraged for many types of fires.

No worries and thanks for clarifying :) We aren't anti-ev at Fire Cloak USA. We are team fire department and first responders and are hoping to help make a difference in the way that they fight these EV fires. Thanks again for your thoughts and feedback!!! @@trevinom69

Solid state batteries... haha, keep dreaming!

Good idea! We have partnered with a company called Fire Suppression Solutions that makes a tool called the FST. Once you pull the pins on the FST, you throw it in and it drops the temperature of a fire by 1000 degrees every 35 seconds. This could be thrown into the EV first, then the blanket would be deployed. It would drop the temperatures even quicker! You can check it out at: firesuppressionsolutions.com/about-fst/

That is an overated issue. You've probably read some bad headlines and believed them. But those "ev fires" on ships all turned out to be false. There's never been a full battery car fire on a ship. EV fires are 10x less common then petrol cars however since they do happen stuff like these blankets are useful.

​@@lachlanB323lachlant6206 there's probably also 10x less evs than petrol cars at this point in time. So that would be obvious they'd have less ev fires than petrol as of now.

@@BabyJesus66 Per 100k cars... so no. per 100 k evs and petrol cars there's 10x less ev fires. Otherwise it would be very misleading lol

@@lachlanB323 Methinks you are an AI bot running at the behest of EV manufacturers. Sprung !!

This was on a 2013 Tesla with the battery in tact. This was a training, so we wanted to wait and deploy the blanket when it reached thermal runaway. The temp was well above 1200 degrees and stayed there several minutes. For the training exercise, we waited and remove the blanket once it hit less than 100 degrees. You'll see the fire department run water over the blanket before removing. They did this at around 150 degrees. In a real life situation, the blanket is deployed upon arrival. The blanket can then be left on until it cools to 100 degrees which takes roughly 5 to 15 minutes. They can speed the cooling process even quicker by using a small amount of water while the blanket is still covering the car. This entire training took just 30 minutes from lighting the vehicle on fire, waiting for it to reach thermal runaway, and then removing the blanket. Each fire department would have the tools they need to test if the vehicle was cool enough to remove the blanket. You will typically see a small amount of flames which is normal. As you can see, we left the footage of the blanket being removed unedited so you can see how little water had to be used, and how much time it actually took. A couple other things Fire Chief Joe Elam mentioned as benefits is that 1. It only took a single department. Most EV fires take several departments 2. It took 30 minutes. Letting it burn takes hours and is awful for the environment 3. It saves thousands of gallons of water. If using water alone, it takes over 10,000 gallons typically to extinguish. 4. The fireman aren't breathing in the carcinogens coming off the vehicle by letting it burn 5. Our groundwater and air aren't polluted with the toxins 6. Yes, as you mentioned, it protects the surround areas and contains the fire We'd be happy to answer any other questions. Feel free to reach out anytime at www.firecloakusa.com

@@FireCloakUSA i assume you guys used Freedom unites right

Useless test as the BATTERY was not on fire. Just a normal car fire. @@FireCloakUSA

@@w8stralwatch again but this time try harder to listen to what the Fire Chief said “ it started popping “ “white smokes indicating battery fires” etc.

So ... the batteries were not burning... if they had been, this blanket would have achieved sweet F A.

You can visit www.fireblanketusa.com for more info and to get a quote or also buy individual blankets here: www.okwreckers.com/electric-vehicle/safety/batp/fireblanket

@@FireCloakUSA thank you

Thanks! Yes this can easily deployed with other systems to cool even faster. The only thing with using water under the vehicle is that it exposes the ground and water supply to the toxic runoff, so we try to use as little water as possible. The batteries can reignite up to 30 days later, so it may be possible they would still have fumes, but we are not certain on that aspect.

@@FireCloakUSA, A whole bunch of atomized water mist is way better than a stream of water. A stream of water will go straight through the flame and hit the ground doing absolutely nothing to the fire, whereas a fine mist will mix with the air, evaporate, and cool the flame. Fire requires fuel, oxygen, and heat. Removing one of the three will extinguish the flame, so I’m suggesting removing the heat. When I was a kid, the neighbors yard was full of bamboo, and it caught fire while I was home, so I grabbed my hose and tried to spray it on the fire. The water went right through the flame, hit the ground, and did absolutely nothing to extinguish the flame. So I changed my strategy to hosing off everything that was flammable in my yard instead. When the fire department showed up, their hose, instead of spraying a stream of water, it sprayed a wall of mist. The mist entered the burning bamboo and extinguished the fire in about 2 or 3 seconds. If you’re able to properly atomize the water, and apply the proper quantity, then there can be no runoff at all.

We suggest sending it with the vehicle. The towing company can actually wrap the vehicle with the blanket and transport it. Once they drop it at the salvage yard, they can use the blanket to keep the vehicle covered during the 30 day "watch period" and from there dispose of the blanket afterward.

For the blanket and bag they are $1350. We have a weatherproof box that you can purchase that you can use to mount the blanket as well for an additional cost. We provide bulk pricing as well as grant writing assistance for fire departments. If you'd like to purchase, feel free to call 918-794-2300 or email: globalops@stephenstruck.com. Thanks for your interest!

Thanks for your suggestions! The weighted corners has been a consideration, but keeping the blanket light as been more important. Typically the fire department just kicks the blanket up under the vehicle and it stays until its removed.

@@FireCloakUSA It also looks like when they spray it down that does a good job of adding some weight to the blanket too. I think you're right. Keeping it light weight is more beneficial and probably helps keep its size minimal when folded up and stored before use. Great product. I can definitely see this being a useful tool with more EV's on the road now than ever before.

Battery fires are dangerous because they don't need oxygen. This blanket is nonsense.

@@jhvorlicky this blanket is for fire control. Batteries arent the only thing that burn in a car fire. This blanket will reduce the fires ability to burn things that do need oxygen to burn

Lithium battery fires produce their own oxygen, you are thinking in terms of conventional fires where oxygen has to be supplied from the atmosphere.

Might need some new paint, but should be good to go.

We suggest actually wrapping the vehicle with the Fire Cloak EV Fire Blanket during the towing and storing process. Our parent company, Stephens Truck Center, brought this product on in an effort to help first responders and to protect the towing community and their fleet. Once you've dropped it off at the salvage lot, we again suggest keeping the vehicle covered for up to 30 days after as they often reignite. Thanks for your question! If you have any others, feel free to reach out at www.firecloakusa.com

@@MysteryD and a New battery

MystiD • '... some new paint, otherwise it is good to go' to...the big shredder at the junkyard.😂🤣

That doesn't seem feasible for fire department around the country. How dod you get 20 yards of sand in a road tunnel or parking garage? I'm sure it could work in certain circumstances, but some of the biggest fire departments in the US are adopting EV Fire Blankets because they are easy to use, contain the fire, and cool the vehicle.

For the blanket and bag they are $1350. We have a weatherproof box that you can purchase that you can use to mount the blanket as well for an additional cost. We provide bulk pricing as well as grant writing assistance for fire departments. If you'd like to purchase, feel free to call 918-794-2300 or email: globalops@stephenstruck.com. Thanks for your interest!

@@FireCloakUSAany chance you have smaller ones for my ebike 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽

@@MikAnimal Do you have one for a motorbike? They're way more likely to catch fire.

@@lachlanB323 I’m not the guy selling them. Also unless ur talking electric motorcycle then no e-bikes DEFINITELY need them far more.

@@MikAnimal I am talking a combustion bike. One with an ICE engine also called internal COMBUSTION engine... come on... it is in the name dude! So petrol. Petrol cars are 10x more likely to catch fire then a electric car so I assume it is pretty similar for bikes. although it is probably harder to protect the battery. But it is also harder to burn yourself on a petrol bike.

If they reignite you can use the blanket to cover it again to contain it.

Great idea!

Ideally Parking Garages would have these mounted in several places on every level, especially near charging stations. Much like you'd have fire extinguishers available. If someone got a "battery failure" notice, they could actually deploy the blanket and that could contain a fire that may break out. If the fire is already started, then yes, fire personnel would need to use the blanket to contain. If it's already spread to 3 vehicles, the outer cars could each be covered with blankets , then the middle cars. This would at least keep a domino effect from happening, where maybe 3-5 cars burn rather than 15 to 20.

Yes, you can purchase an individual blanket for yourself here: www.okwreckers.com/electric-vehicle/safety/batp/fireblanket They are $1350 for the blanket and green bag, and they re $1695 with the water proof red case that can be mounted in your shop. We offer bulk pricing as well. Great idea to have it suspended in the garage.