Fire Dogs - Voice Actor Comparison

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The following is a comparison between voice performances of Ren Hoek by John Kricfalusi and Billy West respectively. In 1991, the classic Ren & Stimpy episode, "Fire Dogs" aired on Nickelodeon in the United States, with John Kricfalusi voicing Ren. In 1993, a music video using the title of the episode was made for the musical album "You Eeediot!" It was up to Billy West to do Ren's voice for this track since John had been fired in '92. It is likely that Billy was encouraged to do an impression of John K. due to how much closer it sounds to the dog's original voice.
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@abdulhakdavutburcek5227 3 жыл бұрын

John sounds slightly better. But Billy did an amazing job imitating him.

@Jitterskull 3 жыл бұрын

@Buzz Lippman @Buzz Lippman i like John better because he's sounds more... Delicate and crisp, and better with notes, sound more aggressive.

@TritnewNG 2 жыл бұрын

@@Jitterskull Probably because John was just naturally aggressive in general.

@kevinngomez2461 2 жыл бұрын

Now with johns rough voice is a little different

@peepsg 2 жыл бұрын

If there Season 3 if John K didn’t get fired there would be episode called Ren Clone two voices by himself and Billy West

@KENNYTHEGHOST777 2 жыл бұрын

@Buzz Lippman but billy west hates john k

@kerouacsghost4145 3 жыл бұрын

If anything, a great example of how amazing West is at not just voice acting, but impressions and imitating. He has a uncanny talent for it. This is the closest I've heard him to John K's "Ren"

@AE1OU 2 жыл бұрын

Strangely Ren in early seasons actually looks cute

@wa0187 2 жыл бұрын

I agree

@Skitskl33 2 жыл бұрын

I kinda like that. It's a funny contradiction since he's a huge ahole.

@baphometblanket6088 2 жыл бұрын

Ren is like that small grouchy dog your grandma would own, who everyone disliked, but you'd still feel a little bad if you saw it fall down the stairs

@_addogg 2 жыл бұрын

i hated how they eventually turned ren into a little bald man by adult party cartoon.

@ponikoTV 2 жыл бұрын

I'm surprised a psycho Chihuahua looks adorable in that episode

@Tombola1993 3 жыл бұрын

They sound almost identical. That's how good they both were.

@FreeArtFreestheWorld 2 жыл бұрын

As a kid I never noticed a difference.

@xxslasher16xx 2 жыл бұрын

@@FreeArtFreestheWorld Same here

@BadringerGronger 2 жыл бұрын

@peepsg Жыл бұрын

Ren: YOU SICK LITTLE OLD MONKEY!

@capncookie1110 Жыл бұрын

@@BadringerGrongerKeyword “almost”

@gametron5917 3 жыл бұрын

While I do prefer John’s deeper voice for Ren, Billy was the one who always did his maniacal laugh and is definitely the voice more people have heard of.

@ibrodirka6628 3 жыл бұрын

Lots of newer cartoons brag about how well they capture real world strugles and human nature, "He's a good man, but not quite right in the head" is the realest line I've heard in a cartoon.

@skinnyweenie8679 3 жыл бұрын

Ok Boomer

@ibrodirka6628 3 жыл бұрын

@@skinnyweenie8679 what's a Boomer?

@fredrogers4717 3 жыл бұрын

@@ibrodirka6628 it’s essentially this term that many younger people use towards older generations whenever the older generation would reminisce over something to degrade on them

@isatherebel1520 3 жыл бұрын

@@skinnyweenie8679 Ok fruitcake

@skinnyweenie8679 3 жыл бұрын

@@isatherebel1520 ok white guy

@Windclaw 2 жыл бұрын

John K's portrayal of of Ren was always the more...unhinged sounding. With Billy, sure , he did an excellent job but never hit that same note of barely contained madness.

@godziller9976 2 жыл бұрын

Even though Billy West did all of the insane laughs?

@Windclaw 2 жыл бұрын

@@godziller9976 I mean in straight voicing him. No laugh, just the spoken lines.

@MidnightMuffin 2 жыл бұрын

@@Windclaw I'm starting to think Ren is a self-insert character after all the shit I've heard about John K.

@wumpus976 2 жыл бұрын

@@MidnightMuffin oh he absolutely was. He even said so when talking about Ren Seeks Help.

@MidnightMuffin 2 жыл бұрын

@@wumpus976 Wow, that's...genuinely disturbing. If Ren torturing animals as a child was based on a true story, how did John K not become a serial killer? That's literally a telltale sign.

@th3azscorpio 4 жыл бұрын

Billy's voice is more gruff, with a heavier Mexican accent.

@yosefdemby8792 4 жыл бұрын

Like Billy West said, because he's a Chihuahua, a South-of-the-Border accent is obligatory. Heck, even when Kricfalusi voiced Ren, you can hear some Mexican in him as well.

@yosefdemby8792 4 жыл бұрын

@@herr_crustovsky This is West's interpretation of the voice overall, regardless of who did it. He also interpreted Kirk Douglas rumbling beneath the surface. And in case you didn't know, Billy West isn't the one with the man crush on Kirk Douglas.

@Itis_Brooklyn 3 жыл бұрын

Yes it does.

@gallibon1319 Жыл бұрын

@@herr_crustovsky I always thought Ren was supposed to sound Mexican.

@e-122psi3 Жыл бұрын

@@xXSpongeBroBrownPantzXx John K also pitch shifted Ren originally. In Adult Party he used his natural pitch, and the difference is noticable.

@Vaporvice84 2 жыл бұрын

John K. was doing a Peter Lorre impression. West is doing an impression of John K.'s impression lol.

@amjh4lah809 3 жыл бұрын

I always preferred John. But Billy did a damn fine job, all the same.

@katelynthewhitewerewolf6376 Ай бұрын

Amjh I actually never could tell them apart since they sounded the same

@amjh4lah809 Ай бұрын

@@katelynthewhitewerewolf6376 Good point.

@katelynthewhitewerewolf6376 Ай бұрын

@@amjh4lah809 Yeah since it's so easy to see how much they sound alike

@amjh4lah809 Ай бұрын

@@katelynthewhitewerewolf6376 Definitely!

@kaiturner5011 2 жыл бұрын

Billy West is definitely an amazing voice actor especially when it comes to Ren And Stimpy

@Toyslasher 2 жыл бұрын

I actually got to meet Billy West at Megacon at Orlando recently and even got a selfie with him. Super cool guy!

@snakeeyes2551 Жыл бұрын

Billy West is one of my Top 5 favorite male voice actors.

@Dr170 Жыл бұрын

Kricfalusi has the ever so slight edge that comes with the state of being genuinely non-sane

@SuperFlyingGlydon74 Жыл бұрын

Sometimes Billy really nailed Ren’s voice but other times he really fucks it up

@TheCeraization Жыл бұрын

Even so, Billy can still do the Ren voice today. John, however, forgot to pretty fast.

@SuperFlyingGlydon74 Жыл бұрын

⁠@@TheCeraizationI actually still like APC John’s Ren better than Billy West’s Ren

@kinnikuman-devilman_fan_2002 Ай бұрын

Wow. You critics in comment sections of YT nowadays are full of opinionated garbage lmao.

@KevinFinkbeiner 4 жыл бұрын

I heard they re-recorded everything for that album just to avoid paying Kricfalusi any royalties. A middle finger to JK of the finest order.

@lao-grotten1101 3 жыл бұрын

Dosen't john k still receive some royalties or payment for the original ren and stimpy? I know he did for at least a while

@aresef 3 жыл бұрын

I have the album and that’s what they did.

@postironichno_innit 3 жыл бұрын

@@lao-grotten1101 he won't be receiving payment for the reboot. and yes, there's going to be an adult-oriented reboot.

@robbiewalker2831 3 жыл бұрын

@@postironichno_innit I thought it already happened.

@mikebode7560 3 жыл бұрын

Knowing what we know now, can we really blame them? John K still has songwriting credits on the album anyhow.

@marioandsonicfan1991 Жыл бұрын

0:12 John kricfalusi in a nutshell

@TheMahonj Жыл бұрын

I’ve never had that hard of a time telling them apart. John’s Ren alternates between smooth and scratchy, and has much more of an everyday man voice to him. Billy’s Ren is much raspier/scratchier, and sounds more like a cartoon character. Then in later seasons Billy also started giving Ren a pinched nose nasal, and also the “I told you I’d shoot but you didn’t believe me” inflection. But we don’t hear any of that in these clips.

@e-122psi3 11 ай бұрын

Yeah I feel like Billy's Ren went all over the place, especially his accent. The whole Peter Lorre influence slowly went in favour of just a 'whatever the hell that is' type of voice, I think Billy even admitted such. Granted I think the actual characterisation influenced that direction too. Ren was a more....'human' character under John's run, while Games era Ren was more and more of a standard wacky jerkass. i feel while John related to Ren, the Games staff took that out on the character (since we all heard the stories about how he treated them :P).

@bekindrewind5247 3 жыл бұрын

You can hear the real Billy in the back on Ren's voice whereas with John it sounds slightly more natural and "clean"

@Silent_Mochi 2 жыл бұрын

John k: ReLax MaN Billy west: relax man Jokes aside I like John k's ren more but Billy west is an amazing impersonator

@bakedbeast689 3 жыл бұрын

Billy West did amazing emulating John’s voice for Ren!

@stuflu8380 Жыл бұрын

I think a big factor in this is hearing Billy West do other work. If you’ve heard him do other stuff, You can probably tell far easier between his Ren and Johns, but as a layman like myself, the voices are practically the same.

@circleinforthecube5170 8 ай бұрын

kinda like tom kenny or patrick warburton or john dimaggio

@Thenameless1 Жыл бұрын

If I remember correctly apparently Billy recorded for both characters and they casted him to replace Ren after John was fired they found his demo reel.

@symbiote1982pk Жыл бұрын

*cast. Casted implies they threw him into a river attached to a pole.

@najalatte 3 жыл бұрын

i think billy west was trying to sound more like john in these clips than usual

@wallowlight 3 жыл бұрын

yea he sound closer than john when he first started voicing ren

@blairterry9435 4 жыл бұрын

Billy West was the voice of Sparx from the Legend of Spyro the Eternal Night!

@wizarddudereborn457 3 жыл бұрын

He was also Doug Funny, Philip J. Fry and Professor Hubert Farnsworth.

@blairterry9435 3 жыл бұрын

@@wizarddudereborn457 Cool.

@katelynthewhitewerewolf6376 Жыл бұрын

@@blairterry9435 I totally remember The Legend of Spyro Eternal Night and I like Spyro and I like Spyro Reignited Trilogy.

@symbiote1982pk Жыл бұрын

it's probably easier to name something he isn't in that start listing what he is.

@katelynthewhitewerewolf6376 Ай бұрын

@@wizarddudereborn457 He should be Itchy's new voice actor after Dom DeLuise

@frogtable125 2 жыл бұрын

0:28 I love this line from Ren in the Fire Dogs episode

@sammyjaohnson5631 Жыл бұрын

I just realized what he said makes no sense

@jamiemoll4128 2 жыл бұрын

This show never should have died. It was South Park before the vile really kicked in.

@thebombingsoda 2 жыл бұрын

I feel like John was calmer recording and billy made it a little over the top, not complaining, just a observation

@dillonwright13 6 ай бұрын

You know, I wish they would’ve paid Billy West to redub the episodes where he was not voicing Ren, like how they had Dave Coulier dub Lorenzo Music’s lines as Peter Venkman for The Real Ghostbusters.

@thomascelentano433 3 жыл бұрын

The soundtrack with Billy really ruins these scenes.

@kevinolivera19 9 ай бұрын

John Kricfalusi voicing Ren Hork (1991) 0:00-0:27 Billy West voicing Ren Hork (1993) 0:15-0:34

@cullen87 4 ай бұрын

You mean hoek

@standoidontwantalastname6500 9 ай бұрын

Billy's voice in the beginning was on par with John's, but I feel like around the end of season 4 was when he began to lose his luster as him

@knuclear200x 3 жыл бұрын

I honestly never noticed the change as a kid. Though id often wonder why only West was credited as the voice of both in later seasons, but i still assumed because John K still had creator credits. Then Nickelodeon features a small segment where Bob Camp is the responsible one, and id be left in the dark about all the hubbub with John

@ShinyblueCrystalsgaming 3 жыл бұрын

I’m a cat- Welp I’m a dog for a little-

@FGC_13942 11 ай бұрын

I just hear phillip j. Fry in rens voice now

@mcbillygoat 2 жыл бұрын

According to Billy West, they both came up with the voices and Billy was the one used for the demos and the voices were the reason Nickelodeon produced the cartoon. Afterwards, John K decides to do Rens voice and then got fired from his own show. The producers went back to the demo and discovers Billy was the voice and could audition for the voice over. So Billy would have been the original Ren voice.

@iknoweverything4959 Жыл бұрын

Nickelodeon picked John as the voice from a range of voice actors on unmarked tapes.

@SiBORG. 6 ай бұрын

@@iknoweverything4959name checks out 😅

@TheRealBlackarrot 4 жыл бұрын

Watch out man here come the fire dogs!

@lana_renNstimpyezekiel Жыл бұрын

I love all voices of ren höek these all sound good❤

@Tree_e888 2 жыл бұрын

I could barely tell them apart

@davidgrantlloyd Жыл бұрын

John K's voice for Ren was better because it was more authentic. But Billy's was great too.

@sushi6top Жыл бұрын

Tbh billy west did an amazing job imitating him that i didnt even notice it was billy :0

@lao-grotten1101 3 жыл бұрын

if you had swiched which clips are voiced by who i probably wouldn't have been able to tell

@SeggyCute Жыл бұрын

Nearly identical JESUS!

@DianneRoberts722 2 ай бұрын

I cant believe i couldnt tell the difference when i was growing up.

@dustybuiscits7424 3 жыл бұрын

the bgm was a nice touch, too. that episode felt really empty

@macbarrpup2451 2 жыл бұрын

Billy, you're great, and this is no exception, but that first line delivery cracked me up a bit!

@CristianS4mano Жыл бұрын

I LOVE THE MUSIC FROM REN AND STIMPY

@canniballemons6930 3 жыл бұрын

I really don't like Billy's voice for Ren after John got fired, but in these clips he sounds identical!

@raphaelbrown6314 2 жыл бұрын

Wellllll John should've known better back and he would've been still be voicing ren if he wasn't such a a-hole

@symbiote1982pk Жыл бұрын

So....why don't you like it then? Do you prefer the vocal stylings of kiddy fiddlers?

@kinnikuman-devilman_fan_2002 8 ай бұрын

@@raphaelbrown6314 Exactly, like why does his fanclub that loves to bash Billy's Ren voice for no reason so much keep forgetting that he was a jerk irl??

@PatricksCrazyPlace 9 ай бұрын

You know? As a kid, I couldn't tell the difference between the two. My ears a little more critical now, but Billy West did a very good job filling John K's shoes as Ren's voice.

@seanchukwuezi3079 2 жыл бұрын

You can tell that it is billy west voicing REN most of the time his voice sound way higher then John k and he dosen sound as crazy or entergetic as him but he still does a great job voicing him.

@LeatherShoes-ef1pb 23 күн бұрын

I think the best compliment I can give Belly West here is that, when I was a kid, I had *zero* idea that John was replaced. I didn't learn about it until many years later when I read about it on Wikipedia. Even now, if you didn't tell me, I don't think I'd know. Billy was, and is, just *that* good at impressions.

@ChildrenShowArchive456 Жыл бұрын

0:28 I remember hearing this background music in the Word Shake segments from Crashbox.

@maximumrebo2030 3 жыл бұрын

I see this as an epic win

@sonicsage243 Жыл бұрын

Am I the only one wondering why they made ren less adorable in the later seasons being honest the cute on outside and crazy on inside kinda fits ren in my opinion

@andykoenigs5944 9 ай бұрын

I noticed that it's especially true with episodes animated by Rough Draft. Those guys love drawing Ren with a big chin for some reason.

@CristianS4mano Жыл бұрын

YOUR PROBLEM ARE OVER, BECAUSE WE ARE YOUR FIRE DOGS

@CartoonNetworkTwo 4 жыл бұрын

Can you upload/link the full Fire Dogs music video?

@RB01.10 9 ай бұрын

You know what’s surprising is that despite John’s firing in 1992 and the show being toned down after it still ran until 1996.

@Medachod Ай бұрын

I'd hardly say toned down. Tons of Kricfalusi storyboards were used for the remaining seasons. He had tons of ideas.

@The_Real_GummyBear 3 ай бұрын

Fun fact: Billy West voiced Ren in the Games Animation era after John Kricfalusi got fired after season 2 was done

@thehammurabichode7994 2 жыл бұрын

@Eli Santin Holy shit, the description is actually a description

@hectormanuel8360 Жыл бұрын

He good man

@BadringerGronger 2 жыл бұрын

Sighhhhhhhhh John K sounds better as Ren

@dillonwright13 7 ай бұрын

Want my take on this? Billy West's imitation of the original voice sounds like what you'd get if you combined John Kassir's Cryptkeeper with Townsend Coleman's Michelangelo. It also feels like Billy West’s version has more life and energy here.

@KE-yq2eg 10 ай бұрын

Need more of the accent, then I'm happy.

@stoneyboyd Жыл бұрын

I’m impressed with how similar they sound.

@deionpehowdy 5 ай бұрын

This makes Stimpy look more like a dog

@xProErax 2 ай бұрын

I really feel like in the reboot, Billy really just put on an accent and still sounds just like himself. Him redoing the voice in 1993 he really did a good imitation for the most part, but now I feel like he kind of forgot how he made the accent and now it's just putting off a different tone overall

@zahirbivings8023 3 жыл бұрын

Billy west is no John Kricfalusi when it come to voicing ren but I will say Billy west It is definitely close or at least a second best choice but I definitely prefer John kricfalusi by far as ren tho.

@Medachod Ай бұрын

I would have given them a tie if West was able to pull off the tone in Fire Dogs across all of his other performances. It is genuinely one-to-one in a few scenes with only line delivery being the difference. But again, the trouble is that _most_ of the time, he sounds noticeably different. Not necessarily bad, definitely good. But in Fire Dogs, he sounded great.

@kinnikuman-devilman_fan_2002 Ай бұрын

Dude, seek help.

@katelynthewhitewerewolf6376 Жыл бұрын

Billy West was also Sparx in The Legend of Spyro Eternal Night. I like Spyro Reignited Trilogy Spyro best. I also like The Legend of Spyro.

@clonusmaximus4600 2 жыл бұрын

Billy's Ren has more of the Peter Lorre influence

@CatdogRockos8 5 ай бұрын

John and Billy’s version of Ren’s voice sounds the exact same. I can’t even tell the difference.

@amjh4lah809 3 жыл бұрын

John K. all the way.

@violettevicencio363 4 ай бұрын

The Ren 🐕 & Stimpy 🐈 Show

@CartoonNetworkTwo 4 жыл бұрын

Do you have the full "Fire Dogs" music video?

@Eli_Santin 4 жыл бұрын

Yes.

@WillCWilson 3 жыл бұрын

@@onestopmusicshop6352 Aaaaand... it's blocked.

@iaintneednoIDforthis 3 жыл бұрын

blocked again

@WillCWilson 3 жыл бұрын

@@iaintneednoIDforthis I didn't even get a chance to see it

@WillCWilson 3 жыл бұрын

@@onestopmusicshop6352 Can you maybe upload it to archive.org?

@zombies4evadude24 2 жыл бұрын

0:03 0:07 and 0:33 are my favorite line deliveries

@PurpleGuy661 9 ай бұрын

0:18

@mikeman8334 2 жыл бұрын

Im pretty sure the Billy one came from a promo

@katelynwarren9327 2 жыл бұрын

Honestly I think john k as ren in fire dogs better than billy west

@vincentheredia1087 11 ай бұрын

Where did you find a better quality version of "Fire Dogs" the music video?

@tellyveevee4139 8 ай бұрын

They are so close. i swear Billy West is a human parrot. Though i hate to say it, i do prefer John K's perfomance since hes got a slight edge to it. West always felt a tad gentler to me especially in later seasons

@PatBoundChannel Жыл бұрын

Spider-Man hit Ren and Stimpy with a bagel and this happened to them

@matthewsoucy9073 Жыл бұрын

A. Him facing powdered toast man is a canon event B. Spot and Spotty

@kc476 Жыл бұрын

I'm team Billy all the way if we're picking "sides", but I admit John K was the better Ren.

@flashfunk0373 Жыл бұрын

I agree

@kinnikuman-devilman_fan_2002 Ай бұрын

"John K. was better"? More like overrated if you ask me lmao.

@felixespinal4594 3 жыл бұрын

Uh But Ren , I'm a Cat 0:05 00:20

@FunkyChickenProductions 3 жыл бұрын

0:07 0:22 Shut Up, You Fool!

@rafaelgutierrez6275 2 жыл бұрын

Billy's Ren sounds... a little happier? Like, not as low and deadpan as Kricfalusi's Ren but otherwise they sound REALLY alike

@Dekomata 2 жыл бұрын

Honestly didn't notice when I was younger. Though for comparison, i noticed Billy stretched a few words a little longer compared to John. Though Billy does a really good job voicing Ren. Sounds really identical.

@alphaotakux Жыл бұрын

Sounds the same if recorded on a old or new setup. I like john k subtle inflection better though. Both great.

@alphaotakux Жыл бұрын

Meaning the new equipment makes it sound cleaner and more pleasing to the ear but a charming subtlety is missed

@locojuliomora426 9 ай бұрын

0:07 Ren: Shut Up, You Fool! 0:22 British Ren: Shut Up, You Fool!!!!🤣🤣

@dillonwright13 6 ай бұрын

Of all the episodes they had Billy West do redubs for, they had to pick the one they made a game on, the one the Angry Video Game Nerd reviewed.

@noahboat580 3 жыл бұрын

This episode soon spawned a shitty super nintendo game

@TomFowkes 3 жыл бұрын

john is the best bring him back!

@Eli_Santin 3 жыл бұрын

He can't even do the voice anymore lol. That's what smoking does to a person.

@Tree_e888 2 жыл бұрын

@@Eli_Santin that's the only reason he can't come back? What about the underage girls he abused? That not important too?

@Eli_Santin 2 жыл бұрын

@@Tree_e888 That's the biggest reason actually. So yes that's important.

@blason56 2 жыл бұрын

John went back to his home planet, he wont come back.

@urbanyouths Жыл бұрын

@@Tree_e888 The woman who metoo'd him was rewarded with a producer role on the reboot.

@Mattened 10 ай бұрын

Billy' is more breathy, sounds slightly less 'natural'. He did pretty well, though

@DianneRoberts722 2 ай бұрын

Billy's Ren voice is higher than John's.

@borntoclimb7116 Жыл бұрын

Ren, i'm a cat

@gatodestructo4933 3 жыл бұрын

I thought this was gonna be a voice comparison for Fire Dogs 1, and Fire Dogs 2 Ren and Stimpy APC. I know Fire Dogs 2 doesn't hold a candle to the first one, but all I know is that Eric Bauza and Ralph Bakshi were in it.