Guys! The DLC classes are at the end of the video!

What I’ve learned from this tier list is that if you have a flying mount, you are likely endgame ready

Holy Knight is best class because it has the most visually appealing costume

I'll always stand by Bow using Pegasus Knight. Kinshi Knight was a great idea on paper and I want to keep the spirit alive.

I made my Byleth a Hero in my first playthrough on Hard, and I really liked it. It just fits the character well IMO. Also, Mariane as a Holy Knight (even if the class isn't that great) because her riding Dorte into battle is just too cool to ignore.

I kinda disagree for Priest. Miracle isn't worth it but the class gets doubled Heal uses and +5 healing per use. Healing in the early game can be scarce so putting one unit into the class will make things easier.

Holy Knight should have gotten heal +5 on top of white tomefaire, the spell list for offensive white magic just doesn’t have enough going on - there’s nosferatu, seraphim, abraxas and aura and most units are lucky to get 2 of them (Lysithea gets them all except Aura)

I feel like it’d be in endgame but you forgot to mention dancer lol

This is like watching a professor who found out the day of that he had to do an 8 am lecture.

Ingrid Falcon Knight with a light lance, evade ring and focus on speed and stuff... I gaved her a dodge build, and she just... stays there against hordes. You can basically tank by actually not getting hit once. I really enjoy building Ingrid that way now, and she got rid of quite a big pack of enemies! Unmounting her will take away a tiny bit of her evasion but she won't get extra damage from bows and can get efects from the ground like a forrest or even thickets without slowing down to get there in the first place. I could talk about a lot of other classes and whatnot, but I just wanted to mention dodge builds in general. One of the downsides of this strategy is the lack of offensive power towards long distance enemies, but can be countered if you use certain gambits to give her distant counter or *spoilers* equip your unit the chalice, another way to counter a dodge build is to fight an enemy with a crit weapon/high crit chance. At the end it's about using your cards well and having more options so make it work!

Mortal Savant is used more to maximize damage output than to use two types of damage. One person could actually make good use of the Mortal Savant in the end game, and that is Marianne. She has Blutgang with Beast Fang and is good at swords, she can easily reach S+ in sword and one-shot almost every one with Beast Fang in the end game. This allows her to have an even higher damage output than Lysithea.

I think priest should be stepping stone mainly because characters like lysithea might go into it to get warp faster, which is one thing but like fortress knight is there and it just has being an adjutant and weight -3, which I think warp outdoes even if you combine their value

your not wrong about the death knight. although not much planning goes into it since the entire thing is just: 1. get lysithea

I like mastering Dark Mage on my archers when I get an Experience Gem. Poison Strike makes a pretty big difference against strong units and/or commanders. This also procs with gambits and onagers.

The thing I dislike about the Gremory class, is that they lose any tomefaires they might have had, If your looking for an offensive magic user, I would recommend Warlock, or Dark Knight if they have the riding skills.

I’m using a bow knight Ashe with hit plus 20 and Edmund battalion that gives hit +40 and a accuracy ring meaning range penalty’s don’t affect me and he was speed blessed and some speed carrots made him a beast. Also Marianne is the only good mortal savant because of her relic and she has such low speed anyways it doesn’t matter. She also got stupidly blessed having something like 36 magic at level 30 with no boasters.

Holy Knight is so close to being great. If it had double white magic use and was slightly less restrictive in its riding and lance requirements, it'd be an incredible healing class. I tried it out on Mercedes on my first playthrough on hard and it took a huge investment, but having her healing cover nearly an entire map and giving her canto was absolutely amazing. I really did miss the extra healing uses though. I sadly agree with the ranking, but I definitely encourage it for people looking to do something a little different with their healers. There's a niche worth exploring here.

4:28: But Poison Strike lets you cheese Nemesis along with impregnable wall

Makes sense when i make my own reasons but i think more elaborate explanations past “good/bad” would make your content more descriptive

I’d love to see like multiple tiers of endgame ready classes because some classes are much better than others.

Mortal savant in a nutshell: It's passable on characters that are made to be mixed sword users, or Felix. Because Felix.

Thank toy for the video!

My thoughts on which Classes are useful to promote to. Any I don't mention, I see little to no value in. > Soldier's Reposition is an excellent Field Combat Art that can play a key role in moving Units closer to where they need to be. Defense +2 isn't too useful, however. > Myrmidon, Fighter, and Monk are the opposite--Speed +2, Strength +2, and Magic +2 can all be nice earlygame but Swap is far too situational to be useful; Shove it completely outclassed by Smite; and while Draw Back isn't terrible, I'd sooner recommend just learning Reposition or Smite. > Brigand's Death Blow, Mage's Fiendish Blow, and Archer's Hit Rate +20 are Skills I'd almost say are too useful to NOT learn. A free +6 damage and +20% Accuracy every time you initiate combat is just simply excellent, precious few other ways to describe it. > Pegasus Knight's Darting Blow can be similarly useful but primarily on Units like Petra or Leonie who are incredibly fast but not quite fast enough to reliably double. The Class itself is excellent as well. > Warlock gives Bowbreaker via Mastery which is certainly useful lategame, given the absurd number of Snipers and Bow Knights the game likes to throw at you. The Class also gives Black Tomefaire and, while less flexible than Dark Knight, is still a decent final Class option. > Bishop, however, is a far superior option, especially for Units like Linhardt, Lysithea, Hapi, and Manuela who all learn Warp. It lacks any ~faires but double Faith uses means 2 Warps which, even it you're not LTCing, can be useful for getting people out of sticky situations or just getting around the Map. > Assassin is overall just a solid Class with 06 Movement and Swordfaire. Lethality is trash but the Class itself is excellent. > Same case with Grappler, although Tomebreaker is excellent for similar reasons to Bowbreaker and 06 Movement alongside Fierce Iron Fist allowing 3 attacks regardless of AS is great. > Sniper is one of the game's best Classes, sporting Bowfaire, 1-3 range with Bows, and Hunter's Volley upon Mastery which grants two guaranteed attacks and, running off of Sniper's base Strength, is virtually stat-immune. > Paladin is the best option for obtaining Lancefaire on a male Unit. Even unmounted, you still retain 06 Movement, which is higher than most other Advanced Classes. > Wyvern Rider is fine to hang around in until Wyvern Lord but don't stay any longer. > Wyvern Lord and Falcon Knight are the game's two best Classes with Canto, 08 Movement, flight, Avoid +10, and overall excellent stats. Not much else to say. > War Master is IMO not as good as Grappler due to a lack of versatility in comparison but Axefaire AND Fistfaire combined with Crit +20 can ensure that Crits are frequent and powerful. Quick Reposte comes FAR too late to be useful unless you're planning on doing NG+. > Dark Knight is your only option for Dark Tomefaire and is essentially a magic-oriented Paladin with 1 less Movement. Still leaves you with 06 Movement even unmounted however. > Gremory grants no ~faires but double uses on all forms of Magic, perfect for Lysithea and Hapi. > Dark Flier is a magic-using flying Class with Canto. I honestly think that alone makes it good. > Valkyrie is odd, sporting only 06 Movement--04 Movement when unmounted, and no ~faires. But the +1 range to Dark and Black Magic effectively makes the Class a magic-oriented Archer so I think it's fine. > Trickster by itself is trash. Just so happens that Foul Play is an excellent Field Combat Art that only it can use. I think it's good to have at least one handy.

I had a lot of fun making building Marianne into a badass mortal savant. Hero's relic + thoron uses.

I used Dimitri as a Paladin for most of the game (including the final mission). He was an absolute beast, tanking hits, moving around the map with ease, and hitting like a truck. He was better than my own character for pretty much the whole game.

To be honest, one of my favourite parts of assassin > sword master is how assassin ignores trees and forest terrain for their movement. They've got a lot of mobility on forested maps that other grounded units just lack.

I’ve learned the hard way how important it is to have flyers on your squad. I got to the Reunion at Dawn on Maddening and I’m completely stuck with underpowered players. I had benched some of my core members for newer recruits. Big mistake. Starting over and paying attention to the class abilities now. So much planning required 😅

Wow this was actually a great video to use for reference when I get three houses thanks and also to get the DLC classes do you have to play the DLC

I think you’re undervaluing priest a bit. Once your main healers like Mercedes, Marianne, or Linhardt get fiendish blow, I think it’s worth switching to priest just for the extra +5 healing.

Awesome! I was worried this was going to be a meme tier list (flying units are the only good units). Thanks for the video

My Felix Mortal Savant wants to talk

Major question though been trying to figure this out Does support systems or even classes mastered or finally skills go into new game plus bc I only focused on getting each characters best class hoping to start a new game and unlock all their classes while using the legendary classes at end game

I gotta put Barbarossa as #1. Best mobility, best offensive abilities, best boi.

could you add a picture of the full tier list? the frame of the video cuts off classes at the ends of the lines

I'm making Sylvain and Ferdinand Great Knights because they're two of the best tanks on my team, but I also want them to have Lancefaire to go with their Swift Strikes. Having access to axefaire with Lancebreaker as well can make them a good counter against Falcon Knights.

I made Ingrid into a dark flier once and that was honestly the most fun I've had with her tbh

Just got back into playing this started up a new save, hopefully this will help me out :)

What about the dancer? What is your opinion on that class as far as tier list?

Mortal Savant Felix helped me SO many times! Really a personal Endgame ready for me 😅

Great Knight was severely undervalued here. You get lance and axe faires, weight -5 and a HORSE. The growth rates are meh, but the class can soak up hits and actually keep up with your army. If anything, fortress knight is a stepping stone to GK since GK does everything an FK can do, but with actual mobility. FK does have great class modifiers and growths for what its worth.

Did he do Dancer? missed it when watching it and would rather not watch all over again. But would still like to know. Props on the vid btw really good stuff.

I found that Stealing from the Death knight then killing the Enemy Commander, Holy Tomb for instance, was a safer way to get those Dark Seals

I feel like brawler is a good stepping stone for certain units after mastering brigand, characters like dedue and Raphael really benefit from the added speed growth, and it should be easy to get to because they should be using gauntlets to begin with. It’s not worth mastering, but if you have some time after you master brigand, you should send certain units into it until they reach level 20.

Out of the 4 unique lord classes, how would you rank them? This includes enlightened one.

Felix as a Mortal Savant was my best character on my first play through. I’ve heard the arguments against it but I think I was just lucky with his stats that it made him untouchable and always one shot everybody.

I'm not hardcore into 3H, I've played 2 routes on normal, the first time the master classes got me by surprise, I didn't knew the advanced classes would be enough, I had Felix in swordmaster and didn't that master servant required reason, I had Sylvain in paladin and didn't knew dark Knight required reason and I had Dedue in fortress Knight and didn't knew that great knight required riding so I had to teach them all the way

I'm assuming Mangs and Chaz incredible Hilda Fortress Knight + guard adjutant changed your mind a little on Fortress Knight?

Is mastering Hero and Cavalier not worth it for Vantage + Desperation?

I built Hilda around War Cleric and Warrior bouncing back and forth for either white magic utility (she gets recover) or extra strength growths from Warrior. Judging from the way she turned out (dodges most everything and crits like a beast) I think it is viable option for those that don't want to make her a flier. Also what is the best sword master class if not Swordmaster??

Planning to have a maddening mode on my last playthrough which is the BE church route. Hope this help me

Pretty sure the brawler class can move through forest tiles unimpeded and has a additional speed growth, which the brigand doesn't have. It can be good to use if you've already mastered brigand but are not high enough level to promote to a higher tier class yet.

Mortal Savant, while not optimal, could be an option for Dorothea or offensive Marianne. Swordfaire for CAs, Tomefaire for their spells, and the standard 6 move are good enough. Could also be used by an Ignatz that's tired of going bows every playthrough.

i need a written guide, i can't remember which picture is which for more than 5 seconds

I feel that Hero is a bit undervalued here, as you do not need to master warrior necessarily to get wrath. On the units that have battalion wrath (which is relatively easy to maintain once vantage comes into play), switching into hero, with assistance from a retribution gambit and a high crit weapon means they can clear entire sections of maps with little trouble, even if they are slightly underleveled. This is especially useful when playing fast during the early rout maps post timeskip, as the enemies there can take a very long time to clear out normally.

After playing with the DLC, I’m noticing that Anna’s quests for the trade secrets give Steal a lot more mileage. Might be worth having one of your faster units master thief. I also certified a lot of units into it for the base speed and dex since it’s relatively easy to get into. I used to sleep on Thief, but it’s seriously worth your time

I don't get why Gremories can't just have Magic Uses ×2, Tomefaire and something else. Warriors promoted into War Masters go from Axe Crit+10 to Crit+20.

I’ve only just started trying to get good at 3 houses, I got really bored on my first run and only just came back to it. It’s been a bit intimidating to analyze all of this information at once, because I wasn’t able to learn as I went like the rest of y’all. Obviously I knew how busted deathblow, darting blow, and fiendish blow are, but stuff like this makes it easier to chunk the info in my mind, so thank you!

I would argue for great knight because of the mobility on a tank unit it's really good if your using them as a primary tank

So I heard that Claude gets flying for exclusive class, should I make him Wyvern rider or Sniper?

I think Mortal Savant's viability depends on which character types are classing into it. I consider it to be more of an upgrade to mages than an upgrade to swordsmen Mage type characters like Linhardt and Marianne fit it perfectly, they can swing a Levin Sword for the Sword part. But sword people like Felix or Catherine? No, don't put them into that class, keep them as a Swordmaster or graduate them into Falcoknights/Warmaster.

“Trickster is a great endgame class...” Thief is needed to promote to trickster. Thief is in “Don’t Waste Your Time tier.” What.

There’s literally one mage that works with Poison Strike and Lifetaker. And that’s Lorenz Hellman Gloucester. This guy is practically the epitome of jack of all trades, master of none, and as a consequence is the bulkiest mage around. He does decent damage for a mage and can still finish people off, so he can afford take some hits and suck off his victims afterwards. Hell, Poison Strike isn’t too bad on Lorenz either against monsters (although that’s something you can to keep in reserve until you’re actually facing a lot of monsters, and even then you’re better off just mastering Mage and leaving behind Intermediate for good). Exclusively for Lorenz, Dark Bishop is “Master and Move On” tier and Dark Mage is “Stepping Stone.” Everyone else? Nah. Don’t bother with that shit. Just nuke them as usual.

Poison strike would be so much better if not for the requirement of needing to initiate to make use of it. If you could use it in tandem with impregnable wall, it would be amazing. As it currently exists, it's probably pretty useless except maybe against high hp monsters/bosses as there are way better ways of dealing chip damage. Edit-I don't think you have to master dark mage to get to dark bishop. You just have to learn the class iirc. Though I agree with you 100% that low risk strategies with caduceus/thyrsus with mages is the way to go.

only disagree with great knight. Giving up just a teensie bit of defense - they still have very high even if a little lower than fortress knight - for the movement and Canto is a very good trade in my opinion. It's a lot of work to get there though. My Byleth is pulling of a good Mortal Savant right now, but Byleth is one of the few characters who can.

Thief is situationally useful and it's good to have one fast unit for it early on. The two lords that you defeat on Field of Eagle and Lion each drop a ring which is very nice. If you've been leveling and training responsibility you should have plenty of time to certify for thief, grab the nice items, then reclass.

I wish there was a dark version of Enlightened One. Like if you pumped dark seals into Byleth it unlocks a side mission to become Fallen One.

Mastering the beginning classes is likely to happen anyway just from normal play, but Magic +2 and Speed +2 are the only ones I ever used in later play. Also, weirdly enough, Draw Back... a combat art I never used until Maddening. Armor Knight is also good for getting extra defense stat ups in the early game. It is also a very easy class to master and increase armor skills in for -weight abilities. A great skill to have on early and even later game Maddening mode. Dark Mage... Poison Strike is situationally useful against boss monsters, but yeah. Only needs unlocking to get to Dark Bishop. Mercenary needs to be mastered. Vantage is broken. Like insanely broken. Even on Maddening, it is too good. The game tricks you because it's a sword class, but it's greatest use is on magic classes. Putting Vantage on someone like Lysithea or Constance? Sea of bodies. Thief actually has a hilarious side effect where you can steal the Dark Gem and Dark Thyrsus on Claude's route. Pointless, but funny, so Steal gets a pass for that alone. Also good for early game with 5 movement and not being hindered by all the damn trees. Brawler is good for one thing- Unarmed combat. Is it useful? No. Is it hilarious to take on an entire army and ancient dragons with my bare hands? Yes. Yes it is. Darting Blow is useful on any female unit, physical or not. AS + 6 is crazy good. It is the best early game class by far. Assassin is fine as an endgame class because of the better movement along with Swordfaire. Would've preferred Bowfaire over Locktouch... Hero is weird. Built in Vantage is amazing, but why is skilling up Axe a requirement when it doesn't even get Axefaire? Warrior is one of those that would be good if it weren't for the existence of Wyvern classes. There's no sense in using them when you can use the superior Wyvern Rider/Lord. But Wrath can have its uses so it's good to master. Dark Bishop is good for one reason, and that's the Lifetaker skill upon mastery. One of the best abilities in the whole game. Unfortunately only males learn it. Combine it with Vantage and you have not a man, but a death machine that slaughters all in his path. I put them on Byleth and he was basically unkillable, even during Maddening mode. Yeah, it's both player and enemy phase. I would know. It's another one that fools you because it's a magic class but it benefits fast weapon users most. Falcon Knight is the best. I hate that it's sex restricted. It's the greatest. Wyvern Lord is also the greatest. My only wish is that there with another version with Lancefaire. Great Knight is not great. The only advantage over Fortress Knight is the movement, which is admittedly nice, but Weight -5 is just way too good to give up. Holy Knight makes me sad. Get rid of Terrain Resist for White Magic x 2 or Heal +10. Hell, get rid of White Tomefaire too. There are like 4 white magic attacks in the game and they're all ass. It should've just been a healing based class. Mortal Savant is... different. A sword user is better off using Swordmaster, Hero, or Assassin, a magic user is better off using Warlock or Gremory. And it doesn't get Dark Tomefaire for some reason. Why does it only have 2 abilities? For a Master Class... I'm annoyed because I like the idea of a mixed Sword/Magic user. War Master is good. Good movement, great abilities, great mastery skill. Yeah, just suffers from competition with Grappler and Wyvern Lord. Trickster... never really found a use for it besides getting some early stat ups for the mages. Yuri's the only one who can use Foul Play properly because of his relic. The 6 move is nice tho. War Monk is another one that it hilarious but is not too useful. I guess if you wanted a female unit with Fistfaire... Dark Flier is good. Only flying magic user. Good movement, good skills, but it suffers from that 3 skill slot limitation. Would've loved Black Magic uses x 2. Dark Valkyrie is basically just an easier to get Dark Knight for women only without the tomefaires. Not awful, but you'll probably just dump it for Dark Knight.

No personal classes like enlightened one, Barbarossa or great lord? No dancer?

Broooo I’ve been lookin for this exactly! Always one ☝️ step ahead😉

Pristess seem to be a steeping stone for healer (if you want to focus on healing like a Linharth or something) they can used it for the +1 to faith and the miracle skill isn't too bad really like sure +6 to magic is nice but useally your doing something wrong if you atk whit your healer or your really in a bad situation... But hey that just me like I said I won't put it like above stepping stone. Any way that just my 2 sence if you can find time to master brigant on anything that doesn't use axe you can find time for your healer to get miracle since they won't have any usefull skill anyway. Great knight can may be work but only for ferdinand so if you got alot of time and recource to use it can work the high move help alot But it ultra niche for anyone else who isn't ferdinand whit someone that really want to give him great knight. for the holy knight I think it pretty solid for hard at less may be on mad it become bad since your magic don't do any damage or something but in hard it work prefectly fine it help nos tanking and stuff that are pretty fun. For the sword magic thing... It look indeed really niche but I think Edelgard can probably make it work byleth too and may be some other one like I don't know Marianne? SORRY FOR THE BAD ENGLISH Overall I would give you a 8/10 for the ranking there like 2 or 3 i disagreed a bit but that about it and it because I only played Hard probably.

I'd argue that Priest should be considered for some magic units. For example, if you take Blue Lions with their "canon" classes, you've got Annette and Mercedes. In my experience, you get Fiendish Blow in the mid-teens, so you've got 4-6 levels before you can go Advanced. In this time, you CAN keep the two girls in mage, or you can reclass Mercedes into Priest for a bit. This helps to put up her healing utility, which is her main function. This can make a difference in a pinch, and she's not getting much from staying in mage. Certainly not the biggest issue, but the class can be useful for a couple months once Fiendish Blow has been acquired, until you hit level 20.

Lol he got the picture of myrmidon and mercenary mixed up. I was super confused for a sec.

Is it just me, or are a lot of the classes in this game/mastery abilities extremely underwhelming?

idk if i just got lucky with rng but Marianne was a beast when i made her a holy knight

I have trouble deciding what to do with my felix? I've played him as bow knight, mortal savant, and war master lol

Dodge tank hero Ferdinand is crazy strong. Astral Aegier Battalion, avoid ring, Ferdinand's personal skill and sword mastery 5 will give you 65 avoid before any other influences like speed. It's a very easy build to set up to which is always nice.

Could Byleth not use Lifetaker to help tank? Going through the 2 Classes to get it would be annoying but getting some magic Exp on Byleth isn't bad and he'll be doing a lot of fighting since he's always deployed.

On my first playthrough felix had bad defense gains during lvl ups so I set him to be a mortal servant. He ended up being my second strongest unit because if he didn't kill an enemy in one hit half his health was going to be gone aka probably Fortress knights so he'd just one hit them with magic from a distance usually with s crit because of his budding talent.

could you write it? Is hard to recognize the sprites, some are much look alike

Once you have mastered Fortress Knight, it's not too hard to make the character a Great Knight, and I value greatly the added mobility. Having your tank quickly at his needed place (usually at choke points of sorts) is invaluable to me. Of course, you can use March ring or Boots or something like that to compensate for the mobility of FK, but for me it doesn't cut it. I'd rather have Chalice of Begginings on my tank and use boots on an attacker such as a Wyvern Lord or a Falcon Knight.

I can't seem to find away to patch FE4. I have Naga patch, not sure what FE4 to get because I have no idea what the hell a headered or unheadered is but on top of that I have no idea what patch to use do to there being like 5 of them. All the while I can find Roy's game WITH ENGLISH TRANSLATE but nooooooo I can't fine one, not one that has a FE4 English patch already installed. And no I'm not online patching because reasons. And to add it all up i'm on phone. A crappy Motorola. At this point I might as well just watch mangs play and be low-key shitty that I can't play it. I dunno. Need help but like I said I have no idea what I'm doing

Gotta say that felix mortal savant was great for me especially because at endgame there are fortess knights whos only weakness is their resistance (also felix has black magic crit +10 and thoron)

I know you said War Monk isn’t as impressive, but isn’t it the only way to get fist faire for females. I feel like that should have been mentioned and with 6 mov that could be endgame ready for someone like Hilda or Catherine even if there are better options.

Excellent tier list overall! There are but a few missteps that I would see corrected. (Disclaimer, I have not started Maddening yet so there are potentially elements that I am overlooking for each of these items.) Priest should be in stepping stone for *Byleth* specifically. If you're going Magic Byleth, Faith is substantially easier to train up than Reason for multiple reasons, and if you're going Male Byleth, Priest is your only early option for that sweet sweet +10% Charm Growth. However, it is undeniable that for literally every other character in the game, Priest is an easy "don't waste your time," so this is more of a nitpick than anything. War Monk/Cleric I would consider endgame ready considering it's the only way to give women Fistfaire, and also Pneuma Gale is situationally useful. Conversely, I would put Valkyrie in "master it and move on" for much the same reason Pegasus Knight is in that tier. As great as it is, Dark Knight is just strictly better, trading the +1 Ranges for +1 Move and Faires.

In maddening mode hero is immensely useful as a stepping stone because not everyone can access swordmaster or warrior conveniently with the limited instructing.

I think Warrior Hilda with Death Blow, Vantage + Wrath is endgame ready, and with a Marianne Dancer on your side it would be a deadly duo.

I know it also depends on route, but you can also just use Ashe instead of having a thief (unless you REALLY want to go into Trickster) - why have a normal lockpicker when you can get one with the ability to ride horses, fly, or do literally anything else?

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even if it is a stepping stone. wyvern rider should be higher tier.

Mortal Savant was a sick class with an awesome concept, but unfortunately, you are right. The only character I've really managed to optimize with it is Felix, who only learns Thunder and Thoron. 😭 Dorothea can use it, but it's not worth it. You should just make her a Warlock or Gremory because w/o Levin Sword, she is not doing a sliver of damage. As for Great Knight, I also agree, and the only real viable character to use it on is Gilbert to me. It's not worth getting at all for Ferdinand and Silvain imo. The stat drops are crazy and it also has less movement, the only one who it really benefits is Gilbert. In any case, that's my honest opinion. Otherwise, really good tier list. If anyone wants to agree or disagree with me, feel free.

Why do so many say great knight sucks?? I’ve had one in three houses but I’ve been using them in Awakening and they’re my best units

I think that poison strike is definitely a skill you would want to have on a sniper

I agree on Dark Mage, but for a slightly different reason. My reasoning is this: I don't want to deal with Death Knight to get the necessary Dark Seal for the class, and Hubert is the only character that can really make use of the class, being the only male that can even learn Dark Magic naturally.

Edelgard can do both Physical and Magic at the same time and do excellent at both, so she is no doubt the best Mortal Savant in the game, but Dark Knight is actually a better option for her as a Mixed offensive and tank unit, Edelgard is one of the most versatile units in the game. War Monk/Cleric is a great Class to stay in if you're a female unit, since there's no other option for them in a Brawling Class

I think Brawler is a little better now (I think it could be considered a stepping stone) with the new war monk/cleric class out. For characters that want to go with fists without having to spend time raising axe level, Brawler is a decent option for growths and quicker fist proficiency up. Reasons to go with war monk/cleric instead of war master are threefold: 1.) Females can access it. 2.) You can get heals and possibly other faith magic. Even characters with crappy magic can end up with some additional utility or a way to cheese exp on Maddening during off turns where they can't do anything else. 3.) Brawl Avoid +20 is a really good skill, especially for characters with high speed/avoid. Although Ferdinand doesn't have advantageous growths in fists, for example, he's a great user of them with brawl avoid+20 due to his personal skill and high speed. The other meme dodge build for Ferdinand entails making him a dancer for sword avoid+20, which is a bit more restrictive imo, and fists have the advantage of even less weight. Stacking all that avoid works really well on Ferdinand, even on Maddening.

An argument that can be made for Great Knight is for someone like Gilbert who can go into extremely easily, and you can make the argument that Ferdinand is also a good Great Knight with Lance fare and swift strike while being able to get there extremely easily

I think War Cleric has an argument for Endgame Ready on the basis that is gives female units access to Fistfaire. Catherine and female Byleth especially appreciate this option. Heck, the existence of Aura Knuckles (albeit very late in the game) means that mages even get a brave effect attacking option without having to sacrifice their ability to cast magic. It's by no means an efficient path to get there, but the possibility exists.

I had a dark bishop Hubert with Fetters of Dromi, and I used the sacred galewind shoes on him. He basically couldn’t die because of lifetaker.

Would really appreciate if u could just show the skills with their tooltips while u talk about them =)

I made Dimitri a Dancer to get Sword Avoid +20 to take advantage of his personal ability that raises his avoid when at full health, and to get Sword Dance which is a low cost arte that scales with his massive charm stat then put him in sword master for sword critical and swordfaire. Now he's too powerful.