Fire Mage Rework is JUST PERFECT!

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Ай бұрын

Welcome back to MarcelianOnline! Today, we’re looking at fire mage rework in the war within alpha and right off the bat, this is the best designed class so far! It’s no exaggeration and yes, very subjective but both frostfire and sunfury mage are incredible. I mean, war within mage hero talents aside, what they actually did to the spec talents is just pure magic and we’re covering it ALL today!
There will be a lot more iterating until war within beta and we do expect more updates for the fire mage hero talents so be sure to stay subscribed to not miss out on any update!
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@MarcelianOnline Ай бұрын

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@gregorylocal Ай бұрын

Bro. As soon as shaman get done, please get that out. Great vids btw.

@MarcelianOnline Ай бұрын

That's the plan!

@danimadridleon847 Ай бұрын

does that mean that shaman is getting a rework or did I missunderstood this comment?

@zerox3448 Ай бұрын

This is completely unrelated, but I noticed that you've lost a good amount of weight. You look great, and it's very inspiring.

@MarcelianOnline Ай бұрын

Oh thank you!

@DarkWingGames602 Ай бұрын

I also noticed this about 3 videos ago

@gearjacky Ай бұрын

Hell yeah!

@sacrosby Ай бұрын

YES!! 🔥 so happy to hear this!

@johntea3278 Ай бұрын

Thank you a lot for this great video on my main spec since vanilla. Cant wait to test the rework.

@OmegaSoypreme 9 күн бұрын

It's quite amazing seeing what they can do with a spec that they clearly have passion for, and which also has such a clear and defined identity. They aren't afraid to just throw cool stuff at it, and then make the effort to make it work. This is the kind of spec they had in mind when conceptualising hero talents. Because the specs that don't have that defined identity, that don't have a driven dev team behind it. Oh boy, you sure can tell.

@JKane_88 Ай бұрын

I am an ele shaman main and have been since Cata, the more I see fire mage rework and very little and boring news on Shaman, I might swap to fire for warthin.

@myrthevanbeest Ай бұрын

Shammys have been left in the dust for ages now. As a longtime ele main I have lost all hope at this point😅

@wassupsmokey Ай бұрын

@@myrthevanbeest man try enhance, ima fury main and see im very excited for slayer as i love bladestorm and seein u get a bunbch of mini bladestorms mid rotation is so cool, but enhance they seriously needa simplify it, the rotation for enhance is legit a good 13-16 buttons, and theirs so much shi goin on in a raid with 8 diff debuffs u gotta look for, 3 diff things to dodge, adds and all this shi, u cant pay attention to all that, then have 16 or so buttons in a rotation, its jus insane how on point u need to be to do decent dmg as enhance wen as fury i got a rotation of maybe 5 buttons 6 max and im doin top 3 dps every fight

@Rudbeckbitten Ай бұрын

@@wassupsmokeyoh mate i feel you. Everytime i mention it a retail Andy appears, and saying i should be playing classic instead 😂 atleast enhancement felt good back then.

@myrthevanbeest Ай бұрын

@@wassupsmokey maybe, but im not really a melee kinda gal. Might have to try it at some point though

@daethmer7834 Ай бұрын

Never mained ranged but it does look insanely fun, thanks for video

@AnteikuNation Ай бұрын

My fav bois bringing the heat with fire mage rework!! I love it!! Thank you guys so much for all your hard work and research.

@MarcelianOnline Ай бұрын

@marckamenos426 Ай бұрын

The rework looks incredible, but will we be forced to play the living fuse build ? Or or other talents doing the same kind of damage?

@magicianm3573 Ай бұрын

sry for asking again but which hero talent so far is winner and losser in war within?

@Artur-pt1zu Ай бұрын

Amazing stuff as always :D I can't decide between fire mage and shadow priest for WW !

@MarcelianOnline Ай бұрын

This, Fire is the way!

@fengariii Ай бұрын

Both obv

@Artur-pt1zu Ай бұрын

@@fengariii It will most likely end that way ;D will level both and end up playing more fun one :P I have enough of healing and will try to enjoy something new.

@Ghust19 Ай бұрын

Same for me. Will prolly level Mage and WW fast, idk which one first tbf to have ranged and melee to play with and other fun specs like unh and shadow afterwards. With the warbands it may finally be enjoyable to play alts alongside main and just shuffle between them, so it feels refreshing to do keys and raids. Been glued to different main each patch for 3 expansions now, with no alts cause all the catching up on everything was feeling too much of a chore and timewaste to me

@gregoryshinn9805 Ай бұрын

Thanks for the video

@MinisculeBug Ай бұрын

I have never played mage before but watching this video has me very excited to try fire mage. It looks absolutely incredible and the spells just seem to have the OOMPH like you can feel the weight of your spell casts dealing damage. It just looks like a heavy hitter spec and I leaning very heavily toward it in TWW.

@AntonKlermon Ай бұрын

Its nit a heavy hitter, big hits is fir frost, fire have more dot damage, he always shine on big and fat packs

@eriklancaric Ай бұрын

Cries in DK

@grimmjowthepantera Ай бұрын

dk was EVER boring from start to the end ....

@andrewlord1864 Ай бұрын

Fire mage looks so good, definitely on the fence between it and arms going into TWW!

@chr1sssss88 Ай бұрын

praying for DK rework too!!

@Zexia23 Ай бұрын

Unholy has had some work done the last few days

@dreadbull5039 Ай бұрын

This has me hyped!!

@syxqid3818 Ай бұрын

Damn want this perfection for enhance, arms and survival 😊

@marcus1041 Ай бұрын

Other than the wow content, i see that you have lost a lot of weight! Bravo from france, it deserves a lot of respect and dedication! 💪

@wulfknightz9526 7 күн бұрын

will fire mage be any easier for casual alt now? always had to go frost as fire was too much for a casual alt.

@richard_n Ай бұрын

I love and hate this. I love the improvements, the synergy, and the ability to adjust to your style of play. I hate that I will have to choose between great, great, and great now. XD

@DankMemes-xq2xm Ай бұрын

The Living Bomb talents are gonna be crazy in epic BGs like Ashran

@That_kind_of_orc Ай бұрын

I have very limited understanding of casters but great video as always!

@Qstorm88 Ай бұрын

My main is lookin’ good! 🔥🔥

@oliverho520 Ай бұрын

Arcane mage next? Mages been eating good recently since they removed rune of power!

@daethmer7834 Ай бұрын

Arcane got a rework too I'm pretty sure?

@lakeitron Ай бұрын

yep@@daethmer7834

@MarcelianOnline Ай бұрын

working in it already :)

@Blackoutseven Ай бұрын

I love the new fire mage! Don’t know what to main between mage or paladin 😅

@Starmann358 Ай бұрын

I'm convinced! MOP Remix fire mage into war within.

@hansmartin3197 Ай бұрын

Cant wait to main fire mage in the next expansion.

@christianclark8599 Ай бұрын

Also, living bomb was already back, it is extremely good right now in season 3 and 4 of dragonflight

@Woocash1618 Ай бұрын

Interesting. I watched that 1.5 hour podcast with the three fire mages and they raised tons of issues about this rework and talent tree. I mean for me it looks awesome, but what do I know. Can't wait to play it!

@rawwbnoles4787 Ай бұрын

Care to share the podcast? I main fire mage and I'm genuinely looking for a new podcast.

@hailfastcorexxx Ай бұрын

@@rawwbnoles4787 its on Toegrinder's channel

@jesseperez4185 Ай бұрын

Same, which podcast did you watch

@hailfastcorexxx Ай бұрын

@@jesseperez4185 its on Toegrinders channel.

@Woocash1618 Ай бұрын

@@jesseperez4185 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/o5aUdNqI2q_SgYU.htmlsi=FvbaP-rqMfbOZJgg

@Salvatoreev Ай бұрын

As a mage since ever, im very happy with the war within rework!

@tylerchapman8856 Ай бұрын

Mage is looking sick.. i hope they can make other specs as good.. like dark ranger.. need sto be able to turn intk death mjst and teleport..at least need to be shootinf purple arrows

@DarkkitesTV Ай бұрын

i think i mioght try to main a caster for the first time

@MarcelianOnline Ай бұрын

Wouldn't blame ya!

@pheodrez9229 Ай бұрын

Can you showcase priest hero talents in tww? Voidweaver, archon and oracle😊they all look very different and super fun

@brendanhill5948 Ай бұрын

I hated having to click living bomb in the past, this looks so cool.

@NathanSwetlikoff-zt5ob 27 күн бұрын

Bring back how fire was in MOP, pyroblast deepfreeze and crit.

@NathanSwetlikoff-zt5ob 27 күн бұрын

See how this plays out for pvp, looks like the favoured PVE players

@markuslc1888 Ай бұрын

with quick flame fire is finally gonna be pug viable

@zionzorshin1579 Ай бұрын

my class finally gettig some love

@Booster_pack Ай бұрын

They sound cool

@Ghust19 Ай бұрын

If they don't end up cooking another great class rework for 11.0 then mage and monk it is with other guys afterwards. Shadow hero talents defo look fun, playing it in s4 rn and it feels great. Dh rework is something I am definitely waiting for, but prolly will be a smaller changes and bigger rework in future patches, same with shammy. With that being said they reworked 2 of my 3 favourite specs so well, now gotta wait for elemental. Maybe in last titan 🤣

@xikirito_6809 Ай бұрын

These changes look absolutely insane and good, I might just main Fire Mage over DK unless they get some huge changes lol

@leolucca416 Ай бұрын

waiting and hoping good news for stormbringer shaman

@exet Ай бұрын

What is that overlay for the new mage overlay doesn't seems to be a double instant pyroblast? Edit: I think it's hypothermia am I right?

@Archsage Ай бұрын

“This really made me appreciate fire mages to a different degree” Yeah? Temperature puns? Lol

@L3le5 Ай бұрын

Cool, and Hunter ?! is good?

@rawwbnoles4787 Ай бұрын

I'm stoked. Heh, stoked. Fire mage. I like we're given real options on play style. I much prefer to be able to press a button instead of waiting to hit the RNG jackpot. I like the idea of Spontaneous combustion refreshing all three charges of Fire Blast and Phoenix Flames. That "up to 3 charges" language has me concerned. As long as it doesn't have a long cooldown. BTW- I can already see the nerfs coming in.

@Girthsquirts Ай бұрын

Only problem is everyone will just google best build and copy import string, making any other builds just never touched

@MasteryGuns Ай бұрын

Because it makes the most sense if you look what they do. Also it’s just straight up easier

@Girthsquirts Ай бұрын

@@MasteryGuns oh yeah eventually I’ll do the same thing lol I’m just saying it sucks that wow always has that issue, I suppose every game does though, there will always be better abilities than the others and better builds, or else I guess everything would be equal and boring.

@MasteryGuns Ай бұрын

@@Girthsquirts yeah true.. I do miss the sense of self crafting in terms of talents but like you say it always end up the same

@stormrage19901 Ай бұрын

Wish they would do more with Dragon's Breath, seems like they forgot about it

@MarcelianOnline Ай бұрын

Would be cool for sure ::)

@Wellshem Ай бұрын

Key spell in pvp but I guess pver don't have much use for it outside of having a small aoe kick

@brendanhill5948 Ай бұрын

Can we get a weight loss and fitness guide next? I notice you’re looking good.

@ihatemondays2595 Ай бұрын

They need to start reworking other classes instead of the popular ones like fire and ret. So many classes are left in the dust and they just keep reworking the top classes.

@Mckadesarcade Ай бұрын

Sunfury mage is wild

@Sefirosu__ Ай бұрын

Need this video but with dk unholy D: blizz said about dk will have rework.

@anthonydelke3193 Ай бұрын

i feel like whenever i play fire im doing everything wrong. lol so much going on all these lights going off on buttons lol.

@ogikay7056 Ай бұрын

Can't decide on a main, maybe I should just main a mage.

@jamesj5612 Ай бұрын

Shadow priest soon?

@duckspinach Ай бұрын

Shaman needs the mage treatment. Ele specifically just as way too many things going on and none of them feel all that great. Hopefully a rework is in the works.

@wengeance8962 Ай бұрын

sucks to see that fairy ring shadowlands ability still being used

@christianclark8599 Ай бұрын

I don’t like that they keep trying to force flamestrike on us. It is nowhere near worth it over using pyroblast

@Salvatoreev Ай бұрын

Its everything about numbers

@sarah-vc9vh Ай бұрын

My dear arcane when will you get reworked (its not bad or hard it just doesnt feel as powerful to cast as b4)

@christopherneil8265 Ай бұрын

Crazy using the shaman fire ascendent as the thumbnail for a fire mage video

@DracilGaming Ай бұрын

That is the tier 11 mage set

@christopherneil8265 Ай бұрын

@@DracilGaming that is a flame ascendant

@punchinpupun Ай бұрын

It's a mage set 😂

@monkerud2108 Ай бұрын

living bomb ccould one shot entire trash packs in legion. rip living bomb.

@tomferguson9609 Ай бұрын

Blizzard please rework survival hunter 🙏

@alienzm5212 Ай бұрын

Again Meta Fire Mage

@MarcelianOnline Ай бұрын

Meta or not, the spec is just amazingly designed!

@valdrastar 19 күн бұрын

until fire returns to cata/mop, it'll always be way too many buttons and feel horrible. If you like the way fire is you probably like high apm which there's nothing wrong with that, but fire is NOT anything like a fire mage. It's literally just too many uneccesary buttons that give the class no upgrade or significance. It just adds to the clutter.

@evilmarius Ай бұрын

Dont mind me. *cries in hunter*

@anormalguytrading2052 Ай бұрын

You can cast and move….. like in all situations just smack your face on keyboard and youll do fine. Dont cry please lol

@brandonlewis3379 Ай бұрын

Now if they can focus on Boomkin lol we need some help blizzard.

@The_Fictionist Ай бұрын

The “if it doesn’t spread” talent isn’t single target. Think about the chain reaction. PF applies LB to 3 targets. That explodes and applies it to 5 targets. Those explode and apply to 8 targets. Those explode and… don’t spread. So those 8 just explode a second time. I might have added a step to the chain but the idea stands. It just adds a “apply to the same targets again” to the end of whatever chain you are using it in when it ordinarily would just be done.

@yangvincent7408 Ай бұрын

came here as soon as i heard the ding in the discord

@MarcelianOnline Ай бұрын

Hehe

@Rated95MG Ай бұрын

MoP's fire mage was the greatest gameplay ever. They ruined it in WOD.

@MarcelianOnline Ай бұрын

TWW seems really good tho

@HermWasHere Ай бұрын

Still waiting for the mage healer spec "chronomancer" where you can turn back time and unwind wounds

@KiinohCaelirosa Ай бұрын

You mean preservation evoker. As a result will never happen for mage.

@HermWasHere Ай бұрын

@@KiinohCaelirosa ill try it, but I'm thinking total time winder

@ourcommonancestry6025 Ай бұрын

Hunter, the most played class, is $&^#. I gotta take time away from the game so I unlearn my warlocks and hunters and play whatever the broken flavor of the month is.

@grimmjowthepantera Ай бұрын

So again meta for next 4 sessions ? ........

@L0rks Ай бұрын

Searing hot :) And not the mage.

@MarcelianOnline Ай бұрын

Oh Lorks, you smooth talker you!

@Urgot666 Ай бұрын

And nothing for hunters....

@kimmikkelsen9601 Ай бұрын

Unless they have fundamentally changed the rotation.... no thanks And mages needs to be able to move and cast. Static casting is so... 20 years ago!

@MarcelianOnline Ай бұрын

I mean, I am all for the future, but you would be having an impossible task to find a caster that casts LESS than fire mage. I actually think there is NO caster with more instants than Fire. On top of the actual hard casts you do being very very few. Sounds like you want to play Beast Mastery :D

@bornagain1494 Ай бұрын

Yeah I agree never was into the hot streak spam. You miss one cast and drop hot streak and your dmg just goes poo poo. The other 2 specs are just way more forgiving in that aspect.