Firestone QUAD Tires on a 9190 STEIGER Tractor

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The 525 hp Case IH 9190 Tractor is powered by a Cummins KTA-1150 engine. The 1950 was built in Fargo, ND from 1987-1988 and is a carustuin of the STEIGER KP-525 Tiger IV. This 9190 using Firestone's Radial Deep Tread 23° Tires in a quad arrangement utilizes the RaBa axles it was built with slong with a bonspin kit installed by the farmer .
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@bigtractorpower
@bigtractorpower Жыл бұрын
Learn about Firestone's Radial Deep Tread 23° Tires at commercial.firestone.com/en-us/product/firestone/agriculture/rad-dt-23?cmp=dis_youtube_ag-ag-523-evgrn-ag2023_pi-srt_en-natl-video-NA-NA-FST-NA-radial The 525 hp Case IH 9190 Tractor is powered by a Cummins KTA-1150 engine. The 1950 was built in Fargo, ND from 1987-1988 and is a carustuin of the STEIGER KP-525 Tiger IV. This 9190 using Firestone's Radial Deep Tread 23° Tires in a quad arrangement utilizes the RaBa axles it was built with slong with a bonspin kit installed by the farmer . Big Tractor Power Video 2,342 SHORT 96 Connect with Big Tractor Power @ www.bigtractorpower.com l E-mail contact@bigtractorpower.com See More Great Tractor Videos - Subscribe ➜ kzfaq.info #bigtractorpower #tractor #firestone #caseih
@guzzimon61
@guzzimon61 Жыл бұрын
This tire setup costs more than the tractor did new !!
@caseycouch1660
@caseycouch1660 Жыл бұрын
Try finding a Quad Trac or RX for that price
@straightpipeacres6365
@straightpipeacres6365 Жыл бұрын
I hope the show the video when the axle snaps hahah. Sure looks cool and is looking like it's working well for them! 👌
@bigtractorpower
@bigtractorpower Жыл бұрын
The farmer is happy with the performance. RABA axles are strong.
@straightpipeacres6365
@straightpipeacres6365 Жыл бұрын
@@bigtractorpower that's good they sure look mean
@nellsonstout7001
@nellsonstout7001 Жыл бұрын
@@straightpipeacres6365 I could see why one would think that but the Rabas in the tigers are overbuilt. I’ve seen wider (overall) rubber hanging off these on the same farm.
@ryszardmrowiec5123
@ryszardmrowiec5123 11 ай бұрын
Raba made in hungary👍
@SimonKL11
@SimonKL11 Жыл бұрын
You don't see a tractor like that every day😁👍 what an amazing looking machine, hopefully you have a full video on the way😉👍
@bigtractorpower
@bigtractorpower Жыл бұрын
It’s the first I have ever come across with 16 tires.
@caseycouch1660
@caseycouch1660 Жыл бұрын
@@bigtractorpower yes please do you have some close up video with some sound to it
@CountryTesla
@CountryTesla Жыл бұрын
Coolest thing I'd seen was in the 80s at the state fair, a new Panther on triples...until now. Thank you!
@jonyknoxvil
@jonyknoxvil Жыл бұрын
Those axle bearings will be hating that
@bigtractorpower
@bigtractorpower Жыл бұрын
They are not. The farmer has told me the factory installed RABA axles handle the set up well.
@JAKDRZR
@JAKDRZR Жыл бұрын
Steiger tractors I’m pretty sure have outboard planetary axles which will take a lot of pressure off axle bearings.
@burtbrooks7731
@burtbrooks7731 Жыл бұрын
That’s a lot of rubber and money!!!! Sure looks awesome ❤
@markward6076
@markward6076 Жыл бұрын
Getting home will be interesting.
@kramnull8962
@kramnull8962 Жыл бұрын
They'll go around.
@craigsibley8161
@craigsibley8161 Жыл бұрын
Wow what a set-up 👍👍👍 Be good to have a longer video on this bad boy...
@stiegerstx500
@stiegerstx500 Жыл бұрын
hopefully you have a full length video of this tractor 9190/tigers are rare
@bigtractorpower
@bigtractorpower Жыл бұрын
I have heard only 18 9190s were built. Stay tuned for a full feature.
@nellsonstout7001
@nellsonstout7001 Жыл бұрын
@@bigtractorpower that’s the number I’ve heard as well
@RinkyRoo2021
@RinkyRoo2021 Жыл бұрын
I remember seeing that on very early steam tractors they had a set up like this for the fields near stockton ca except metal wheels ,I think it was how the tracklayer company started.
@bigtractorpower
@bigtractorpower Жыл бұрын
Very interesting. They dig deep in California. Thank you for sharing.
@Mackeson3
@Mackeson3 Жыл бұрын
Ooh the strain on the halfshafts unless the fields are billiard table flat.
@bigtractorpower
@bigtractorpower Жыл бұрын
The Tiger size Steigers are built heavy. The RABA axles can handle it as well as the metric triples.
@lynwessel2471
@lynwessel2471 Жыл бұрын
Usually run very low air pressure with the most in the inside tire in those setups.
@richardstump4582
@richardstump4582 Жыл бұрын
That's!!! Super Amazing, Congrats!!
@Hinesfarm-Indiana
@Hinesfarm-Indiana Жыл бұрын
Wow never seen that before, nice 👍
@bigtractorpower
@bigtractorpower Жыл бұрын
It’s a cool and effective set up.
@Hinesfarm-Indiana
@Hinesfarm-Indiana Жыл бұрын
@@bigtractorpower what does it do to the axels? Seems like a lot of stress on them.
@user-jp7rk1uf2n
@user-jp7rk1uf2n Жыл бұрын
That would be Hell on the axle bearings.
@91rss
@91rss Жыл бұрын
a guy in town said re tires or conveyors to use Goodrich age master on them every 6 months and let dry over night, its the best for crack prevention but is not cheap but its the best hands down he said
@firestoneag
@firestoneag Жыл бұрын
Wow! Exciting to watch this mighty tractor really put its power to the ground. Glad you like the deeper bite, extra traction and smooth ride you’re getting with these radials! Keep pushing. 🔥 #FarmHard
@bigtractorpower
@bigtractorpower Жыл бұрын
The farmer is enjoying the benefits of this multi tire set up.
@farming4g
@farming4g Жыл бұрын
One needs 16 firestone tires to match the performance of 8 Trellborg or Michellin tires 😂😂😂
@shawnbrown8888
@shawnbrown8888 Жыл бұрын
Jason rhat is awesome!!!!!
@bigtractorpower
@bigtractorpower Жыл бұрын
It is neat to see in action.
@scottpykare801
@scottpykare801 Жыл бұрын
That is one awesome looking tractor. Really tough looking for sure!!
@bigtractorpower
@bigtractorpower Жыл бұрын
It is an impressive set up.
@M.V.2
@M.V.2 Жыл бұрын
🚜💪👍👍
@bigtractorpower
@bigtractorpower Жыл бұрын
😁👍👍
@jeebolard
@jeebolard Жыл бұрын
Case International pained a few of these red and branded them as a Case International 9190, too, right?
@bigtractorpower
@bigtractorpower Жыл бұрын
This is a red one the customer ordered new but when it arrived in red he refused to take delivery unless it was painted back to green. It has a Case 9190 serial tag. The steering wheel has the Case Old Ave Eagle logo and a Case IH logo on the grille. Rare tractor. My understanding is that 18 9190s were built. All the cooler on 16 Firestone tires.
@jeebolard
@jeebolard Жыл бұрын
@@bigtractorpower Whoa! That is super interesting… very cool story.
@farming4g
@farming4g Жыл бұрын
Those poor axles.... oh boy. Must have a lot of flatground?
@nellsonstout7001
@nellsonstout7001 Жыл бұрын
Lots of it from what I’ve heard. He’s not far from the Steiger farm
@generationll
@generationll Жыл бұрын
They might want to try double or triple lsw tires
@bigtractorpower
@bigtractorpower Жыл бұрын
They have 800 Metrics on the Tiger shown in this short. The issue they found is the larger tire is slipping too much in their soil. The narrower Firestone is giving the extra little bit of grip times four while not leaving a detectable foot print behind.
@eb0800
@eb0800 Жыл бұрын
Wish I could afford equipment like that.
@lil_farmer_7731
@lil_farmer_7731 Жыл бұрын
Nice
@johndowe7003
@johndowe7003 Жыл бұрын
Tires costs more than the tractor 😂👌
@stevenarnold3935
@stevenarnold3935 Жыл бұрын
I'm surprised that the manufacturers do not offer triples or the quad configuration on the 4wd tractors.
@lynwessel2471
@lynwessel2471 Жыл бұрын
I think most offer triples. Wide duals are probably better for flotation. Ive seen dual LSW 1200s on a larger JD and of course the dual 1400s on the Big Bud 747.
@anthonyhengst2908
@anthonyhengst2908 Жыл бұрын
It's kind of stunning to me that when you add more shoes the smaller the footprint.
@bigtractorpower
@bigtractorpower Жыл бұрын
It spreads the weight out farther so it’s not pressing down in a concentrated area.
@anthonyhengst2908
@anthonyhengst2908 Жыл бұрын
@@bigtractorpower I know. Still it seems to defy logic to me. It's funny how physics works. That's why I studied it. It would seem like it's still a lot of weight even spread out would still be a lot of soil compaction. Yet that's how fully loaded barges stay afloat.
@leeforeman3656
@leeforeman3656 Жыл бұрын
Looks good. Probably not a issue, I assume the turning circle is reduced with the quad wheels.
@bigtractorpower
@bigtractorpower Жыл бұрын
The 9190 is turning a 60ft drill and a commodity cart so the turning radius is pretty wide.
@jamesbarbour8400
@jamesbarbour8400 Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't be so worried about a reduced turning circle so much as the front tyres colliding with the rears on a turn, if the driver wasn't paying attention - a lapse in concentration only has to happen once, then it's catastrophic damage to the axles. As it is, the loading on the axles must be enormous. I'm assuming that the standard length axle is being used and that the additional wheels are clamped to each other, since Stiegers don't use 'bar' axles ? Personally, I'd probably weld on some kind of stop at the rear of the front frame, so that a mechanical stop would prevent the tyres from colliding with each other during a turn. When IH brought out their 'Snoopy' tractors in 1979, the warned owners not to put duals on the front axle, as it wasn't rated for duals. Some farmers ignored that advice and mounted duals anyway, with the risk of the tyres contacting each other during a turn. According to one source, IH allegedly supplied shorter stroke ram cylinders that turned the tractor in a larger radius than standard, so that catastrophic damage did not occur.
@richardpickell8062
@richardpickell8062 Жыл бұрын
WOW!!
@teecuzbruh4058
@teecuzbruh4058 Жыл бұрын
bet the kingpins love that
@bigtractorpower
@bigtractorpower Жыл бұрын
Tiger size Steigers are stout machines.
@Susky62
@Susky62 Жыл бұрын
That’s a lot of tires
@robertmoncur3781
@robertmoncur3781 Жыл бұрын
The amount of money in tires holy crap
@bigtractorpower
@bigtractorpower Жыл бұрын
The farm is very happy with the performance
@outbackladas
@outbackladas Жыл бұрын
You’d need the right farm to suit that tractor, plenty of flat ground and long rows. Wonder how this setup compares to a quad track tractor, flotation and traction wise? Regards from Down Under.
@Jan_372
@Jan_372 Жыл бұрын
Probably about equal weight (if not more), but spread across a wider track, not sure about the total area and ground pressure though.
@timcrawford5882
@timcrawford5882 Жыл бұрын
And how are the axle bearings holding up?
@ronitopacite2707
@ronitopacite2707 Жыл бұрын
And the consumption of crude oil is staggering too
@CheeseMiser
@CheeseMiser Жыл бұрын
Oh the cost to replace those. 😱
@landlifem5872
@landlifem5872 Жыл бұрын
How do they limit the articulation ? I'm guessing turning circle is going to be kinda poor
@samueljoejr5191
@samueljoejr5191 15 күн бұрын
Sweeet!!!
@bigtractorpower
@bigtractorpower 15 күн бұрын
Rare tractor and a cool tire set up.
@glennhatley2010
@glennhatley2010 Жыл бұрын
Only work on flat ground. On rolling hilly land, will break axles
@barrysimmons5489
@barrysimmons5489 Жыл бұрын
Probably do pretty good having lots of boyuancey in deep water....
@bigtractorpower
@bigtractorpower Жыл бұрын
For this farm they were looking for some extra traction from the tires and less spin.
@aeromach2007
@aeromach2007 Жыл бұрын
Wonder what kind of stresses that puts on the axle hubs? That's a lot of leverage outboard.
@bigtractorpower
@bigtractorpower Жыл бұрын
The Tigers have RABA axles which are very tough. The farmer says they handle the quad tires with out issue.
@aeromach2007
@aeromach2007 Жыл бұрын
@@bigtractorpower ,, good to know. I'm a machinist and have built quite a few machines in my time where overhang load is a concern and it just looked precarious is all.
@deere7227
@deere7227 Жыл бұрын
As long as on flat ground, likely ok. Its when load is only on outer tires.
@yougotmossed3592
@yougotmossed3592 Жыл бұрын
Don’t need that much rubber to pull that air seeder.
@davidbrennan3613
@davidbrennan3613 Жыл бұрын
That's unreal
@deere7227
@deere7227 Жыл бұрын
Can't have more traction and less compaction in same package
@bigtractorpower
@bigtractorpower Жыл бұрын
Sure you can. The 16 tires spread out the weight and the 16 tires grip more surface.
@deere7227
@deere7227 Жыл бұрын
@@bigtractorpower sorry but no. With a fixed weight of tractor, the more rubber means less psi on ground. Traction comes from penetration - that's why tractor tires have lugs - try a tractor with bald tires.
@anthonyburke5656
@anthonyburke5656 Жыл бұрын
He should have spent some of the money getting his tractor injection system serviced and rejetted
@Jan_372
@Jan_372 Жыл бұрын
B-but black smoke is cool. Don't worry about the extra consumption and carbon buildup inside👌🏻
@charleshagenbuch6078
@charleshagenbuch6078 Жыл бұрын
Looks like he has to avoid turning to sharp or he'll clean the dust off the outside tires.😮😅
@Wileybird03
@Wileybird03 Жыл бұрын
Could have just put a set of lsw 1400’s on n achieved same thing🤷🏻‍♂️
@bigtractorpower
@bigtractorpower Жыл бұрын
No they would not. They want a little bit of grip in their soil and the 800 metric triples used on their Tiger spin too much. This quad tire set up gives the traction and floatation desired.
@haweater1555
@haweater1555 Жыл бұрын
Careful on the corners or the tires will hit oneanother.
@nellsonstout7001
@nellsonstout7001 11 ай бұрын
They won’t. There’s just a few inclhes of clearance left. (Source, I know the owner and have a picture of it maxed out)
@TheGrumpyFarmer
@TheGrumpyFarmer Жыл бұрын
I’m still thinking that’s overkill
@bigtractorpower
@bigtractorpower Жыл бұрын
The farmer felt he wanted a little more bite and has been very pleased with the results on the 9190 on quads vs. his Tiger ST 470s on metric triples . Less wheel slip.
@mattcoy2817
@mattcoy2817 Жыл бұрын
Looks like future final drive problems
@Jonathan13435
@Jonathan13435 Жыл бұрын
I bet them tires were a lot of money
@bigtractorpower
@bigtractorpower Жыл бұрын
I am not sure if the price. For this farm they are a good investment to make a powerful classic a modern day power house in the field.
@tgh223
@tgh223 Жыл бұрын
More tire than hp
@randymyers5086
@randymyers5086 Жыл бұрын
Half his horse power is to turn the tires.
@landonjamison1483
@landonjamison1483 Жыл бұрын
3750 per tire lol nearly 60K in just tires
@janicemavis5105
@janicemavis5105 Жыл бұрын
I've heard any over two is a waste, puts too much pressure on axles, causes them to break. I woul never, never, never do that.
@patmurray1076
@patmurray1076 9 ай бұрын
why so many
@bigtractorpower
@bigtractorpower 9 ай бұрын
I found for the soil conditions, where they are in North Dakota that this tire set up, works best to improve traction and flotation for them
@nellsonstout7001
@nellsonstout7001 7 ай бұрын
@@bigtractorpowerthis is in Minnesota Jason
@thinkamajig
@thinkamajig Жыл бұрын
fields better be pretty flat...
@gman7640
@gman7640 Жыл бұрын
those poor axles.....
@bigtractorpower
@bigtractorpower Жыл бұрын
They are RABA axles. They are running fine.
@JBfarms2022
@JBfarms2022 Жыл бұрын
What 😂
@bigtractorpower
@bigtractorpower Жыл бұрын
It’s working great for this application
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