Firing Line w/ THOMAS SOWELL #2 "The Economics of Race and Politics" Critical Race Theory Debunked!

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BasicEconomics

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Sowell debunks Affirmative Action, IQ myths, and many other anti-fact-based thinking of the left.
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@Valelacerte
@Valelacerte 2 жыл бұрын
_"I accept your correction."_ Aah, the days of polite and honourable conduct in debates.
@jeevs4187
@jeevs4187 2 жыл бұрын
right??!?! I really miss these types of debates where nobody is flinging chairs or screaming into the other person's face which has become all too common in today's ... er .. "discussions". Sigh!
@eldermillennial8330
@eldermillennial8330 2 жыл бұрын
@@jeevs4187 “Quarreling” is the word you are looking for.
@jeevs4187
@jeevs4187 2 жыл бұрын
@@eldermillennial8330 haha! today's discussions are yesterday's quarrelling 🤣
@sv3931
@sv3931 2 жыл бұрын
@@jeevs4187 Discussions? They still have those? 🤔 Who does this? 😉👌
@metzwax5021
@metzwax5021 2 жыл бұрын
Love how Sowell listens to the ramblings and then shuts down the nonsense with a single sentence. The man is golden.
@stevena8719
@stevena8719 2 жыл бұрын
One of the most important men ever to live, at least as far as I’m concerned.
@jimfischione2743
@jimfischione2743 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed.
@maambomumba6123
@maambomumba6123 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@roughhabit9085
@roughhabit9085 2 жыл бұрын
Kissinger said that Buckley single handedly shifted American politics to the right, which means he set socialism back on its heels- probably for decades. So yes you’re right, Buckley was a great person.
@multirichardb
@multirichardb 2 жыл бұрын
Thomas Sowell is obviously well studied and very well researched. He pays attention to the bigger picture envisioning what consequences will come from political or social activity.
@CarbonGlassMan
@CarbonGlassMan 2 жыл бұрын
This guys mom use to use him as a egg timer. She'd tell him to say his ABCs and when he was finished, she knew the Thanksgiving Turkey was finished cooking.
@skidmarkpro
@skidmarkpro 2 жыл бұрын
Lol
@vtwlim67
@vtwlim67 Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂
@Drummr88
@Drummr88 11 ай бұрын
Sowell? He's actually quite succinct. Especially considering he has to skillfully dispel the many layers of rhetoric most of us have been indoctrinated with for most of our lives. Unless you're talking about the cross examiner, lol.
@CarbonGlassMan
@CarbonGlassMan 11 ай бұрын
@@Drummr88 I'm talking about the slow talking socialist professor.
@Drummr88
@Drummr88 11 ай бұрын
@CarbonGlassMan Gotcha. I figured that's what you meant, but wasn't sure lol.
@sweathering2997
@sweathering2997 2 жыл бұрын
This was great. Once upon a time when issues were discussed.
@jeevs4187
@jeevs4187 2 жыл бұрын
my sentiments exactly! :)
@speggeri90
@speggeri90 2 жыл бұрын
They are discussed, but not in public discourse.
@raymisuto9872
@raymisuto9872 2 жыл бұрын
People in the United States actually still discuss topics like this, with the sole exception of democrats. But to be fair the Democrats did declare independence and they are still Confederates, so there society heads different customs then Americans.
@Partyartie45
@Partyartie45 2 жыл бұрын
Thomas Sowell is a leader! A saint! He enlightens us all! He is the Foe of Delusions! Thank you Dr. Sowell! 🙏🏻
@speggeri90
@speggeri90 2 жыл бұрын
Oh saint Thomas! I vow to sacrifice a nice white lamb for your honor, or if I can't find one at a descent price, then six pigeons. Jokes aside. Thomas is truly a great thinker. Going through Basic economics. Good stuff!
@samuelmatz
@samuelmatz 8 ай бұрын
Only successful weapons against ignorance are first: be calm and respectful. Second: facts with details. We have a whole generation operating on emotions and slogans . Totalitarian societies want and need an ignorant public.
@dennisbrown4216
@dennisbrown4216 Жыл бұрын
I'm shocked I've never heard of this man until today. How what he said 40 years ago is as relevant if not more so today. Being shoehorned into a class removes your individual identity and allows you to seek solace in help that medicates you instead of curing you. Creating a dependent compliant citizen that can never question for fear of having the security removed.
@Napierius777
@Napierius777 2 жыл бұрын
I've watched this several times now. Each new time I watch I discover new quips and answers that reveal just how many ways Sowell dismantled this liberal economist-with extreme wit & clarity. Soul = Legendary.
@vascocarvalho2962
@vascocarvalho2962 2 жыл бұрын
Sowell
@RenickJ
@RenickJ 2 жыл бұрын
Thomas Sowell is just too good for this entire production
@AlexTamayo.
@AlexTamayo. 2 жыл бұрын
A reminder that Thomas Sowell is 53 in this interview 😮
@tvfan14
@tvfan14 2 жыл бұрын
By my calulations he's be roughly 51. The talk was done in 1981, I just googled it because you got me courious. He was born Jume, 30th, 1930.
@AlexTamayo.
@AlexTamayo. 2 жыл бұрын
@@tvfan14 I read that this was filmed in November 1983. I'm not sure of the accuracy of that information, though. However, Sowell made a previous appearance in The Firing Line, which I think is the 1981 one you're referring to.
@eldermillennial8330
@eldermillennial8330 2 жыл бұрын
Dang. Late bloomers have all the looks. Sigh. I’ll look like an old man when I’m 53.
@AlexTamayo.
@AlexTamayo. 2 жыл бұрын
@@eldermillennial8330 well, there's also the "black don't crack" aspect of it I guess. lol
@LiViro1
@LiViro1 2 жыл бұрын
Jeez, I'm 42 and definitely look older - and unwiser ...
@stevefoote7451
@stevefoote7451 2 жыл бұрын
I just watched the debate between Prof. Lackachmen and Thomas Sowell. Back when Martha Burke was standing outside the gate at Augusta National in 2001 babbling on about " no female members in this prestigious club." Prof. Lackachmen lamented for those poor souls looking in from the outside of " The Century Club." Same basic argument. There was a female caller who gave her two cents on the Martha Burke argument. Her answer was priceless, and also answers Prof. Lackachmen lamentations. " Instead of sitting around bitching about being excluded, build your own " private club" the same way all these " privileged " people did.
@gianfrancobenetti-longhini8192
@gianfrancobenetti-longhini8192 2 жыл бұрын
Prof. Robert Lekachman would have been called a "pompous person" during my time, tending to consider himself "superior", and rather than participating in a dialog, was more interested in making his views appear better than those of Professor Thomas Sowell. For respect of the dead professor I will make no more personal comments on his attitude.
@mynonameyt
@mynonameyt 2 жыл бұрын
Thomas Sowell is simply the most clear thinking person in my lifetime. A close 2nd is Rush Limbaugh and Dennis Prager.
@divinegon4671
@divinegon4671 2 жыл бұрын
Dennis thinks Israel is more important than America
@rooderoo12
@rooderoo12 2 жыл бұрын
Back when debates were an art form
@sapatomaluco
@sapatomaluco 2 жыл бұрын
This is a classic!
@samuelmatz
@samuelmatz 2 жыл бұрын
Prof. Robert Lekachman has a narrow view based on few facts. It would have served him better, if he had read more of Prof. Thomas Sowell works. If a professor is poor with gathering facts/knowledge, they will pass on incomplete and error filled learnings.
@tvfan14
@tvfan14 2 жыл бұрын
Thomas Sowell is definitely a leader, in my opinion. I am about to turn 29 years old, he is someone I look up to.
@sv3931
@sv3931 2 жыл бұрын
You have an excellent mentor then!
@UberGringo
@UberGringo 11 ай бұрын
He is a thought leader if not a political one.
@dennisbrown4216
@dennisbrown4216 Жыл бұрын
"Those people that are most needed will be the most hated" That is deep.
@ryankelly369
@ryankelly369 6 ай бұрын
And prescient, as well. Those people that are *now* the most needed *are now* the most hated.
@sweathering2997
@sweathering2997 2 жыл бұрын
Please keep this coming!
@user-zf4qv4mu3p
@user-zf4qv4mu3p 11 ай бұрын
Thomas schooled him. Very politely I might add.
@alexpaun7384
@alexpaun7384 11 ай бұрын
Fine debaters. Both of them.
@1Life2Little
@1Life2Little Жыл бұрын
Sowell I brilliant... What a mind.
@KumoOtokoZero
@KumoOtokoZero 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic Content!
@bratyanow
@bratyanow 2 жыл бұрын
Smartest Man in the World! GOAT
@jeevs4187
@jeevs4187 2 жыл бұрын
Undoubtedly! :)
@CatsClaws.
@CatsClaws. 2 жыл бұрын
Thomas Sowell fanboy here, and I'm here to say for the nth time that I love Thomas Sowell and that he's changed my life for the better! I'd probably say it again.
@sv3931
@sv3931 2 жыл бұрын
*@CatsClaws* Hello again! Did you check out that essay: "Black America Before LBJ"?
@CatsClaws.
@CatsClaws. 2 жыл бұрын
Hey @@sv3931 hi! I haven't yet, but I will.
@darrelltalbott4830
@darrelltalbott4830 2 жыл бұрын
Coolbeans my friend
@CatsClaws.
@CatsClaws. 2 жыл бұрын
The Grace Amber thread is clearly a bot/farm thread. Paid, I assume, by this Steven Hart character.
@mikefinlayson9907
@mikefinlayson9907 2 жыл бұрын
Two great men
@wernershantel3317
@wernershantel3317 2 жыл бұрын
The philosophy of the rich and the poor is this. The Rich invest their money and spend what is left. The poor spend their money and what is left:
@brianjonathan6639
@brianjonathan6639 2 жыл бұрын
I wanted to trade Crypto but got confused by the fluctuations in price
@charlottemia7716
@charlottemia7716 2 жыл бұрын
I heard that he strategies are really good
@Alex-yj2bt
@Alex-yj2bt 2 жыл бұрын
@@charlottemia7716 Yeah My first investment with Mr Steven hart earned me profit of over $30,530 US dollars ever since then he has been delivering
@jacobmason6398
@jacobmason6398 2 жыл бұрын
he has really made a good name for himself
@mikewilliams8352
@mikewilliams8352 2 жыл бұрын
he's obviously the best invested 20,000USD with him and 9days I made a profit of 50,000USD
@BeardyDay
@BeardyDay 2 жыл бұрын
Thomas Sowell is my grandpa!
@BasicEconomics
@BasicEconomics 2 жыл бұрын
I can see the family resemblence!
@jeevs4187
@jeevs4187 2 жыл бұрын
@@BasicEconomics LOL!
@greennovember7993
@greennovember7993 2 жыл бұрын
Iv already seen this on KZfaq
@BasicEconomics
@BasicEconomics 2 жыл бұрын
hope it was worth a 2nd watch :)
@tvfan14
@tvfan14 2 жыл бұрын
@@BasicEconomics I certainly think it is!
@sv3931
@sv3931 2 жыл бұрын
@@BasicEconomics I've seen at least thrice; original run, on F.L. archives and again here...enjoyed it everytime! Thanks!
@MrDanielfff777
@MrDanielfff777 2 жыл бұрын
Is this already on KZfaq
@sv3931
@sv3931 2 жыл бұрын
Probably over in the Firing Line archive.
@PrenticeBoy1688
@PrenticeBoy1688 Ай бұрын
That NYC Ashkenazi accent is pretty grating, though.
@Usmanthemecano
@Usmanthemecano 7 ай бұрын
Interviewer looks high as a kite..
@tvfan14
@tvfan14 2 жыл бұрын
What year was this talk?
@BasicEconomics
@BasicEconomics 2 жыл бұрын
1983
@scurvy77777
@scurvy77777 2 жыл бұрын
If you want to see what happens when a sloth wishes to be a real boy 33:03
@moatengator6047
@moatengator6047 2 жыл бұрын
-- I hold that you can't possibly have a well-informed pinion on Critical Race Theory unless you can answer these basic questions about it. In one sentence, what is Critical Race Theory? When and why did Critical Race Theory spring up? Critical Race Theory draws from from certain European philosophers and theorists. Name one of them and explain how he influenced Critical Race Theory. Is the following statement true or false? Critical Race Theory draws from Booker T. Washington and the principles of the Atlanta Compromise. What idea did Critical Race Theory borrow from critical legal studies? What is triumphalist history? How do the favorable racial equality precedents, like Brown v. Board of Education, tend to deteriorate over time? What feminism insights did Critical Race Theory build on? What did Critical Race Theory take from conventional civil rights thought? Who is considered to be the intellectual father figure of Critical Race Theory? Did Martin Luther King believe the United States was systemically racist? What is the goal of the Critical Race Theory movement? What are the basic tenets of Critical Race Theory? According to Critical Race Theory, is race biologically real or is it socially constructed? According to Critical Race Theory, is racism in the United States normal or aberrational? According to Critical Race Theory, what two important purposes are served by our system of white-over-color ascendancy? According to Critical Race Theory, what forms of racism are color-blind conceptions of racial equality incapable of curing or addressing? According to Critical Race Theory, why do large segments of American society have little incentive to eradicate racism? Who is the White Supremacist Neo-Nazi who founded the Anti-Critical Race Theory movement? What is one of Christopher Rufo's lies about Critical Race Theory? What Neo-Nazi conspiracy theory has been incorporated into Anti-Critical Race Theory ideology?
@BasicEconomics
@BasicEconomics 2 жыл бұрын
A repackaged version of critical legal theory
@eldermillennial8330
@eldermillennial8330 2 жыл бұрын
Booker T Washington was the FIRST to identify and condemn Race Hustlers and wedge issue farmers, tried (and sadly failed) to nip it in the bud before it could metastasize into the abomination it is today.
@ptbuse21
@ptbuse21 2 жыл бұрын
One could say the Michel Foucault was a large source of "ammunition" for those originating this theory. Now, as an existentialist, though some vary, he believed that nothing exists. So, to follow with existential and postmodern types of nihilism and skepticism, what is there to be critical of? But in order to criticize anything, you have to have a point of reference.......which is knowledge, damn! Can't know things, so..... Race probably is just a mental construct anyway huh? Actually, none of this is correct because it is stated with a degree of assertion, as in, small degree of certainty of validity. We can't really know anything, even that. That we can't know that we can't know anything. Now that I think of it, because I've given these ideas words, and conceptualized them, they are necessarily invalid a la Immanuel Kant. If the last few things that I said are wrong, then the opposite is right? Wait, I'm forgetting that it's stupid to ask questions because if we can't know reality, then what is it I hope to hear as an answer? Damn, I asked another question. OK, there exists invisible forces that only the indoctrinated or anointed are capable of seeing, that subjugate certain non-white males and females, and white females into an entrenched ancient system of lineage attempting to keep solid hold on their means of power through completely deterministic unwitting biologically driven systemic and unconscious racism, sexism and other badisms. This sounds like racism, toward a particular race. But, who am I to know anything? This is what it is like to take any philosophy after immanuel kant seriously, with the exception of a couple. They can't be nihilistic because to commit to that idea, presupposes a claim to knowledge witch their thomas khun tells them cannot be correct. "People used to think the earth was flat, but science changed, and now says the earth is round, or oblong and bumpy, make up your mind science, I just waiting on tomorrow when its finally discovered the earth is cubical." This is what is being taught in universities today. It's not an oversimplification, students are taught blatant subjectivism. This causes all forms of neurosis. Which is what critical theory of "It's all the white mans fault" is in fact, a social neurosis.
@sv3931
@sv3931 2 жыл бұрын
*@Moatengator* Im going with: _Subjective personal mental meanderings_ for $50! *critical* "1)adj. Judging severely and finding fault. 2) adj. Relating to or characterized by criticism; reflecting careful analysis and judgment."* *rational* "1)adj. Having or exercising the ability to reason. synonym: logical. 2)adj. Consistent with or based on reason or good judgment; logical or sensible. 3) adj. Of sound mind; sane."* of philosophy: *•Rational Thought* "Rational thinking is the ability to consider the relevant variables of a situation and to access, organized, and analyze relevant information to arrive at a sound conclusion."* *•Critical Thought* "Critical thinking is the intellectual process of actively conceptualizing, applying, synthesizing, and/or evaluating information generated by observation, experience and reflection, as a guide to belief and action. In its exemplary form, it is based on intellectual values that transcend subject matter division such as clarity, accuracy, precision, consistency, relevance, sound evidence, good reasons, and fairness."* To wit, Rational Thought _collects and analyzes information_ with the purpose of arriving a sound conclusion, and •Critical Thought _evaluates_ information with the purpose of arriving at a belief. Or Rational: how to think Critical: what to believe • Evaluate: "To determine the importance or worth of."* Based on _what?_ Importance to _whom?_ Objective: "expressing or dealing with facts or conditions without distortion by personal feelings, prejudices, or interpretations."* Subjective: "existing in the mind; belonging to the thinking subject (read: oneself) rather than to the object of thought (opposed to objective)."* While considered a "subset" of Rational Thought... CRITICAL THINKING _IS NOT_ •RATIONAL •LOGICAL •SOUND CRITICAL THINKING _IS_ •IRRATIONAL •ILLOGICAL •ILLIBERAL •SUBJECTIVE, PERSONAL MENTAL MEANDERINGS •A EUPHEMISTIC "In rhetoric, the use of a mild, delicate, or indirect word or expression in place of a plainer and more accurate one, which by reason of its meaning or its associations might be offensive, unpleasant, or embarrassing."* BUZZWORD "A word drawn from or imitative of technical jargon, and often rendered meaningless and fashionable through abuse by non-technical persons in a seeming show of familiarity with the subject"* Example: *Critical Race ...* *...Theory?* "a _well-substantiated_ explanation of an aspect of the natural world. Theory not only explains known facts; _it is testable._ "* or *...Hypothesis ?* "a _supposition_ or proposed explanation made as a basis for reasoning, _without any assumption of its truth._ "* or *....Doctrine?* "a set of beliefs held and taught by a group, such as a church, political party, or other group."* *All definitions courtesy of chrome
@sv3931
@sv3931 2 жыл бұрын
@@ptbuse21 _i love this post!_
@kimobrien.
@kimobrien. 2 жыл бұрын
The basic problem of modern capitalist economics is you can't print your way out of Das Kapital or Imperialism the Highest Stage of Capitalism.
@eldermillennial8330
@eldermillennial8330 2 жыл бұрын
That’s not capitalism, it’s not even Cronyism, it’s just drooling stupidity. I say this as a Chestertonian Distributist who is opposed to both Macro-capitalism and socialism. By the way, read more Chesterton, especially “Irish Impressions” where he illiterates the third way economics that USED to come naturally to traditional Irish. It came to an end after 1985, however, when globalists used pop culture to get a foothold where nothing else could.
@sv3931
@sv3931 2 жыл бұрын
*@Kim OBrien* The problem with _all_ socialist economics is that it was the product of an alcoholic slacker so lazy he lived in a body covered in boils rather than bathe. A slacker who never held a job but lived off stipends from his capitalist dad, a dowry from his capitalist in-laws, inheritances from capitalist relatives, and in the last, a stipend from his buddy Engel who finally took a job in a capitalist concern owned by his capitalist daddy...from which he supported his deadbeat drinking buddy Karl until his death. Ole Karl was a real peach...unfortunately,he smelled like the back end of a bovine, and raised his 7 kids, those that made it out of infancy, in abject squalor; so sad about that boy who required daddy Marx to publish a GoFundMe to bury him! sad, so so sad! At any rate, I think we can easily see why _socialism doesn't work._
@herrschaftg35
@herrschaftg35 2 жыл бұрын
The free market doesn't just create wealth from thin air. That is the dealings of a corrupt government.
@julianbrown1092
@julianbrown1092 2 жыл бұрын
Idiotic title. Sowell doesn't run away from the fact that racism exists and it effects society. He just puts race into economic contexts and questions the conventional wisdow on race and discrimination.
@VincentWeisTheThird
@VincentWeisTheThird 2 жыл бұрын
His argument is that the case that CRT tries to demonstrate, namely, that the system is set up and stacked against minorities, blacks in particular, is not demonstrably true. The economic context would rule that theory out if the theory concludes that such racism and discrimination is, in fact, effective. Sowell is not just providing context, he's arguing that the discrimination was, while present, not effective, and that measures to tip the scales in the other direction have been detrimental. That is directly opposed to CRT, as represented in state DoE outlines for public school curricula.
@julianbrown1092
@julianbrown1092 2 жыл бұрын
@@VincentWeisTheThird CRT is a new way to oppress minorities that Sowell didn’t have to address. Because he never doubted the existence of racism and oppression, doesn’t seem to follow that he would have signed on to the bullshit.
@dennisbrown4216
@dennisbrown4216 Жыл бұрын
​@@VincentWeisTheThird his simple premise is that government intervention to a problem that is states that it solves creates bigger problems then it solves and it ends up getting exponentially worse as time goes on.
@Fantasyremix
@Fantasyremix 18 күн бұрын
CRT is about far more than acknowledging that racism exists, which no one anywhere denies. Instead it concerns itself with systemic racism, and it views unequal outcomes as evidence of systemic racism by definition. This assumption is deeply flawed, and Sowell's whole body of work refutes that particular notion again and again and again.
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