Firmino is not just a playmaker

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2 жыл бұрын

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A new writer from The Athletic is stuck inside the scattergram - Mark Carey joins JJ Bull to discuss the most productive players in Europe’s top five leagues.
They discuss quantity of shots per 90 versus xG per shot. Who takes lots of shots? Who takes easy shots? Which players just hit and hope?
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@doomsdayfish3693 2 жыл бұрын

Tom Worville being trapped inside a scattergram yet RB Leipzig still managed to scout and sign him shows why they are leading Europe in talent identification

@keh1396 2 жыл бұрын

If only they could identify the talents of Ibrahim Sangare.

@gamergod3378 2 жыл бұрын

@@keh1396 tifo gotta hire him first for them to notice

@dadgamer6717 2 жыл бұрын

Who has he recommended them go sign? Can Liverpool please sign them first!

@jordavi7501 2 жыл бұрын

This is the best comment

@thatosoafo1331 2 жыл бұрын

Ibrahim Sangare can only be signed once... One of the big clubs sign "Pressing machine" Konrad Laimer in that that's when Leipzig can begin talks with PSV i think that's where he is now

@brendonchen134 2 жыл бұрын

looks like tom worville finally escaped from the scattergram

@ethandonnelly1658 2 жыл бұрын

I heard he’s in hiding in Germany

@ronanfitzpatrick1261 2 жыл бұрын

🚨🚨 Containment Breach! Containment Breach! Escaped Statistician! Contain... 🚨🚨

@azalikmar2 2 жыл бұрын

I think its a prequel episode..

@aadirao9401 2 жыл бұрын

This is the saddest sentence in the history of the world

@jodenmintoor 2 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂👏🏼👏🏼

@mohammadlone 2 жыл бұрын

The new jingle is just as beautiful as the previous. Bravo JJ. Also a very strong debut from Mark.

@robertpethick1270 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah great start from Mark, may he stay trapped in a scattergram for a long time

@jeffgilmour1107 2 жыл бұрын

@@robertpethick1270 or get a real job like Tom did

@louielouie3109 2 жыл бұрын

I miss it ending with variables

@tomdubois9389 2 жыл бұрын

Firmino is not just a playmaker he is a False 9 with impeccable teeth, highlights, and the glue that allowed Liverpool to win all their trophies.

@suttercane777 2 жыл бұрын

No-look goals and iconic kung-fu kick celebrations go as bonuses.

@harrisonturpitt 2 жыл бұрын

Firmino continues to go from overrated to underrated like a lightswitch

@CharlieThomasMorris 2 жыл бұрын

At the moment he's having an underrated period next week who knows

@otto_jk 2 жыл бұрын

Maybe if we take the average he's just rated

@theportugueselegend 2 жыл бұрын

@@otto_jk Yeah, he's a normal player with an unusual role. Like Alexis

@mclovinjr9086 2 жыл бұрын

@@theportugueselegend I wouldn’t say he’s normal or an average player, his role isn’t easy to play. Grealish as talented as he is looked absolutely lost at false 9 when City played Liverpool, and Sterling isn’t great through the middle either.

@theportugueselegend 2 жыл бұрын

@@mclovinjr9086 Well, Firmino is highly intelligent I'll give you that. But he doesn't proper in anything else. Just like Thomas Muller. For me City and Liverpool shouldn't be so easily compared. Different type of managers, different tactics and different approaches. Grealish is a pure creative midfielder or winger, never a false 9... Guardiola can't use him there. But he can use Gabriel Jesus though

@gimmibox 2 жыл бұрын

Congrats to Tom, going to miss the old jingle. But this new tune is great too.

@CKDefianT 2 жыл бұрын

I appreciate the accuracy of the destination of Tom Worville's escape animation. Well done whoever made that decision

@johnnym3071 2 жыл бұрын

So essentially Si Señor, Pass the ball to Bobby and he'll score?

@akshaybhatt3750 2 жыл бұрын

You know ball

@stevendchu 2 жыл бұрын

*Pass the ball to Bobby and somebody on his team will score

@doritobaby 2 жыл бұрын

jj bull suggested the work and presence of sadio mane and mo salah draws opposition away from middle and allows firmino to take hi quality shots

@thechriscrowing 2 жыл бұрын

I adore the way Tifo mix smart analysis of football with absolute nonsense.

@stevendchu 2 жыл бұрын

My favourite Bobby Firmino story is the fact that he wasn't even rated by Brendan Rodgers before his signing. The transfer committee did, and the compromise was that if Rodgers agreed to take Firmino, he would get Benteke as well. Rodgers then stuck Bobby on the wing with Jordon Ibe until he got fired, and the rest is history.

@alibizzle2010 2 жыл бұрын

I can only assume that Joe had a soft jazz budget grand-fathered in with the Athletic deal

@soludsnak 2 жыл бұрын

Joe does that for free.

@chrundlethegreat2251 2 жыл бұрын

Imagine this is your first time watching tifo...no context for the deep lore that is the Tom Marvel saga

@wizardaka 2 жыл бұрын

Adding a z axis with (maybe np) goals per 90 would be interesting. It would give that poor lad more room to move about in. Another dimension in fact. Please do consider for stats and human rights reasons.

@BattousaiMLT 2 жыл бұрын

Congrats Tom for escaping the scattergram and re integrating into society so quickly and successfully. Good luck to Mark and try not to show your fear as the stattergram can sense it and take advantage of you

@greenhandskelly5580 2 жыл бұрын

Good to see they've found someone who's actually happy about being trapped for all eternity in a graph.

@BigMadAndy 2 жыл бұрын

Truly beautiful leaving song for Tom. Gonna miss you Worvman x

@calebayton9073 2 жыл бұрын

I was distraught when Tom left, purely because his theme song was my favourite, and I thought it was lost forever. When the new intro played I thought ah yes this is a fitting sendoff, and then the familiar refrain came in and I cried tears of joy

@M..n..M 2 жыл бұрын

This kind of intros is why Tifo IRL is one of my favourite channels EVER!! Love you guys❤️

@MylesB93- 2 жыл бұрын

Never expected to get a Bebe analysis in this video but I'm here for it

@Nicolasin-yn9mu 2 жыл бұрын

Firminho is an amazing player, he'd get into any team in the world probably ;D

@LMarcon11 2 жыл бұрын

except for Brazil :(

@williandalsoto806 2 жыл бұрын

Firmino. No -h- anywhere.

@tejas8719 2 жыл бұрын

Congrats Tom and all the best for all challenges ahead!

@dfetz3 2 жыл бұрын

One of the first things I thought about during Tom’s farewell on the Football Tactics Podcast was what would become of the scattergrams?! Good to see the tradition of imprisoning The Athletic’s stats writers continues.

@sesabalaji5904 2 жыл бұрын

🐐 introduction for any video man

@kashhusain8154 2 жыл бұрын

Do you have a scattergram playlist? I really like them. If I could watch all of them in one place I would be very happy.

@yonisgure7348 2 жыл бұрын

The eye test suggests this accurate, too. I'm thinking of the goals he's scored this season and they've been some of the easiest finishes of his career: the goal against norwich, the 3 tap-ins against Watford, and the two easy chances against Porto. He doesn't score difficult goals and very rarely takes difficult shots. He should've scored the chance against Brighton that Salah played him through for, too. He's always in good positions

@rockyman1011997 2 жыл бұрын

This is my first time watching one of the videos from this series and let me just say it's wild. Love the scattergram

@warrensong1793 2 жыл бұрын

I had to replay the intro twice. Pure magic

@michaelhart1072 2 жыл бұрын

I liked tom worville. But good job in the escape

@samuel96860 2 жыл бұрын

How did they make this intro better?

@kscales56 2 жыл бұрын

I would love for this to be someone's first tifo video. The beginning would be so WTF

@Nqwilliams 2 жыл бұрын

Man I love this channel

@Egbert758 2 жыл бұрын

Now I have to go watch the old vids for the song

@tanishqsahu2564 2 жыл бұрын

I am loving this current upload schedule

@diegozarate5930 2 жыл бұрын

I respect JJ's tactical analysis, he's deep on his knowledge and delivers it clearly. The jingle singing just breaks my ironic core, it's hilarious. Thank you

@andrzejkopalnia 2 жыл бұрын

This has serious "Lost: Untangled" vibes and I love it!

@JakeFLM 2 жыл бұрын

Beautiful new jingle

@milescarey1874 2 жыл бұрын

jj bull is one of the best presenters on youtube

@kabeloignatiusmosala9769 2 жыл бұрын

Congrats Tom!

@edoethalesmo 2 жыл бұрын

Quite sad song... But very good! It made me cry.

@squrielman 2 жыл бұрын

That intro was fire.

@misterhotsoup 2 жыл бұрын

Need a bit of audio balancing between prerecorded Joe and the live audio. Great stuff as usual though!

@kieronparr3403 2 жыл бұрын

I came for the football and stayed for the emotion

@oh1yeah2 2 жыл бұрын

At some point you must release a compilation of all the songs please... The Scattergram (pt I & II), Tifo Merch, etc

@homosapien5156 2 жыл бұрын

Mega deal song as well

@MgrMario 2 жыл бұрын

im glad firminho got the appreciation he deserves

@tompathadan3890 Жыл бұрын

Jonathan David, Muani all impressive as well

@bruhstoise 2 жыл бұрын

Congratulations Tom worville that sounds fun working for a club with so much potential

@wwanimator 2 жыл бұрын

Having a high xg per shot doesnt mean someone is clinical at finishing chances, it shows more good movement and decision making (not being wasteful with shooting decisions). Would be cool to see how someone like Firminho ranks in post-shot xG added (how likely the shot is to go in the goal in terms of its placemet minus the pre-shot xG)

@stevennorman3900 2 жыл бұрын

Agreed, that's what it would show if the sample size was even worthy of discussion. His previous 4 seasons are all between 0.14 and 0.17 npxg/shot (very consistent numbers). The 0.33 statistic comes from his meagre 371 minutes played this season. Very poor video imo

@otto_jk 2 жыл бұрын

@@stevennorman3900 the theme music in it self made this video 10/10

@peruggo 2 жыл бұрын

Would you please consider normalising the volume between Joe's Athletic pitch in the beginning and the content afterwards? The amplitude in this particular video is quite startling. Otherwise, great stuff as always! Love you, guys

@coachhbosoccer 2 жыл бұрын

Firmino might go down as the Scottie Pippen of Liverpool But appreciated all the way

@theoath6129 2 жыл бұрын

Mohamed Bayo is easily my favourite young player. Started watching him last season in ligue 2, seems the perfect long term Antonio replacement for my beloved West Ham.

@Kim-gb4pf 2 жыл бұрын

wtf the scattergram guy now work for RB leipzig what's next Joe and Seb playing dm for man united?!

@Champo3231 2 жыл бұрын

I want to believe that the main criteria for choosing who would be stuck in the scattergram was whether or not their name would work in the song!

@PrabhavKhandelwal 2 жыл бұрын

We will miss you dearly Tom. The renewed intro song rescued my broken heart.

@acerock013 2 жыл бұрын

he is also the key to Liverpool's high press and super nice guy.

@stevennorman3900 2 жыл бұрын

You've made a stats video about a player that has 371 minutes this year and used that sample as the basis for explaining how Firmino only takes high value shots? We could just look at previous seasons for a sample that isn't completely meaningless, and instead of 0.33, we see the previous 4 seasons were ALL between 0.14 and 0.17 npxG/shot. Romain Saiss is second in the league btw. Saiss is not just a centre back?

@sandlan5 2 жыл бұрын

Ok the song is the laugh I needed this morning.

@Recedinhairline442 2 жыл бұрын

Bruhh tifo is makes my day😂

@jayilham6548 2 жыл бұрын

Good luck Tom for your endeavours! Love the new song

@adaldi_ 2 жыл бұрын

We'll accept Mark (or warm up to him at the very least) like we did Tom when he first got trapped in the scattergram. Welcome Mark! 👍🏼

@foley123 2 жыл бұрын

Scattergram for Christmas No.1

@miguel_aquatico 2 жыл бұрын

Tifo lore is always the best lore

@jake8993 2 жыл бұрын

Nice vid, though I reckon those axes should've been swapped

@akshaybhatt3750 2 жыл бұрын

All firmino content is good content

@Patfan91 2 жыл бұрын

God speed Tom Worville, congratulations for escaping the scattergram

@andrew7taylor 2 жыл бұрын

I came to uMaxit for the football Stayed at Tifo for the music 🎵 IT'S A MEGADEAL... 🎵

@chiss22 2 жыл бұрын

The new jingle is still so good 😂

@thoriummusic 2 жыл бұрын

going to miss Tom, but glad to see he made it out alive

@samuellalla91 2 жыл бұрын

Yo that tune is hard

@shatrujitkumar 2 жыл бұрын

Andy Delort: So good they listed him twice

@dashonedj 2 жыл бұрын

The intro was such an emotional rollercoaster. Fly free Tom Worville you beautiful beast, we all knew it wasnt for forever 😓

@MikeTyson-ff1xe 2 жыл бұрын

Tom Worville, forever in our hearts, and the scattergram.

@tankisomakhetha2836 2 жыл бұрын

Bobby is a combination of a 6, 8, 9 and 10. He’s a gem

@Dasaboi 2 жыл бұрын

@chrisprobert5340 2 жыл бұрын

The Scattergram Song is now wedged in my frontal lobe which sounds a bit rude. Would you mind if I were to teach my folk group " Pleasant Woody Aroma" this new instant classic?..

@avijitmishra7033 2 жыл бұрын

He is one of my favourite players

@homoerectus3355 2 жыл бұрын

Rip Tom Warvel 😭😭

@samd7718 2 жыл бұрын

Worville

@otto_jk 2 жыл бұрын

More RiL, Rest in Leipzig

@Egbert758 2 жыл бұрын

Actually his job is going to be harder..no time for rest

@cass2239 2 жыл бұрын

Me: sees Yoan Touzghar on the board *immediate flashbacks to me transforming him from a decent Ligue 2 winger to 15+ goal a season Ligue 1 striker on FM*

@jeffhardystan 2 жыл бұрын

Tifo are getting scarily good at making jingles😭

@jessewrites3819 2 жыл бұрын

Genius!

@Jur1_00 2 жыл бұрын

I want to know who writes these songs. They seem basic but brilliant

@otto_jk 2 жыл бұрын

Joe has done music so maybe him, but you never know

@SLow-fb3qm 2 жыл бұрын

Salah and Mane aren’t selfish. That helps, and both are likely to offload in the box.

@RodZamora_is_the_best 2 жыл бұрын

Firmino is a strange case. Ultra talented but I think he's a spent force at Liverpool (injury aside). Without him we're now demolishing sides 4-0 on a regular basis. For years he's been my favourite player. :(

@zapffe_9581 2 жыл бұрын

Data is a little deceiving cause of 1 match imho where Firmino got 3 goals.

@Aditya_Raj123 2 жыл бұрын

Great 😑 now I have to learn to sing the new jingle

@ryansmith-jr4gn 2 жыл бұрын

I never thought he was a playmaker

@dggarb 2 жыл бұрын

Wait, I just memorized the song!

@brysonfrank6476 2 жыл бұрын

This one needs to be a 3-dimensional scattergram with goals as the other axis.

@manuelnagore4409 2 жыл бұрын

Come for the data, stay for the music

@jamesdunne2757 2 жыл бұрын

I never knew j.j was a musical genius

@arglc2731 2 жыл бұрын

Is there a chance that Firmino only takes shots when he is comfortable with it unlike top strikers who take difficult shots and still manage to score.

@yungtrashlord 2 жыл бұрын

it's confirmed, jj bull is one of the scattergram overlords

@UnbiasedBayernFan 2 жыл бұрын

Good luck Tom Worville at RB Leipzig! Sad to see the boi go but interesting video

@crimsonghad 2 жыл бұрын

Hoping this is the beginning of The Athletic and Tifo graphical representation extended universe where we discover Amy Lawrence is confined within a line chart, Phil Hay is cornered inside a circle graph and Iain Macintosh beguiles JJ in to a histogram

@SECRETORDEROFTHEKNIGHTSTEMPLAR Жыл бұрын

FIRMINO is the most humble and unsefish player I've ever seen at LIVERPOOL you might think hes arrogant AF with his goal Celebrations but he's really quiet and shy off the pitch...

@dontwannaname 2 жыл бұрын

Scattergrams. Trapping Tifo analysts since 2021

@jasonsotheran1548 2 жыл бұрын

Looking at the scattergram Firmino is averaging nearly 3 shots a game at about 0.3xG each, which suggests he should be scoring nearly a goal a game yet I don’t think he’s ever had more than 15 or 16 in a league season?

@chrismason9091 2 жыл бұрын

Tom Worville + KZfaq subtitles = Tall Marvel

@sadisticcargo9389 2 жыл бұрын

He is also Brazilian!

@wmyates17 2 жыл бұрын

Scattergrams everywhere weep as their favourite hostage escapes, rip Tom Worville

@rusdyparinduri6925 2 жыл бұрын

Can wait for the song when ten people escape 🤣

@samuel96860 2 жыл бұрын

For anyone who was wondering about Mo Salah: he currently has 3.91 shots per 90, and 0.13 xG per shot. It's probably the blue circle straight down from Leroy Sane.