First Ever | Turbine Motors for FPV 🌪🚀

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First Ever | Turbine Motors for FPV 🌪🚀

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Taking a look at the Newly Released Karearea TOA Turbine Motors! I do a quick review on the bench followed by some FPV Freestyle and Full Throttle Racing Rippage, with stick cam at my new favorite spot.. Is the HYPE REAL?!!?
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@calebgrefe8922 4 жыл бұрын

Not really a turbine motor. Just a motor with a fan.

@eulogy1981 4 жыл бұрын

You just explained what a turbine motor is. In your comment.

@hailstorm7868 4 жыл бұрын

@@eulogy1981 google what a turbine is dummy

@drewgotit3569 4 жыл бұрын

I always wondered why motor companies didn't make their motors like that. It seams like common sense to at least try

@KAREAREADRONES 4 жыл бұрын

Due to very difficult CNC procedures...(It takes at least 3 times longer to CNC machine compared to conventional motor bell with real 7075-T6 aero grade duralium. It's also hard to make the props the right pitch for each blade due to small diameter area (Top of motor bell). Actually the motors are not overpriced compared to manufacturing cost.

@MikeNugget 4 жыл бұрын

There is no point to make blades as a part of motor case. Seriously.

@paulhope3401 4 жыл бұрын

@@MikeNugget Yes... but still a lot of people will buy into the hype and collectively even see and feel 'differences' due to confirmation bias.

@pauljs75 4 жыл бұрын

@@KAREAREADRONES It'd be relatively easy to take a bell housing blank with no vent holes and put it on a hydraulic press to stamp in the holes and put a fold on the notch outs for integrated cooling at the same time. Difficulty depends on the manufacturing process and materials. (CNC may not always be the answer for making things like this in bulk.)

@klausbrinck2137 4 жыл бұрын

Hacker motors and the other high-end german brands have that, plus hand-wound stators with thick wires... and cost 10-15 times more than the hobbyking-own motors (them standing at the lowest step of prices)

@DrMacca 4 жыл бұрын

Max: "... if I get more Patrons I'll give someone my five inch" Me (a grown-ass man): *giggles* Great video! Just ordered some vanilla Karearea TOAs (inspired by your previous videos) - can't wait to try them out.

@GregQuillen 4 жыл бұрын

Hahahahaha

@MaxBeamer 4 жыл бұрын

I thought about editing that part out but I had already rendered 😂

@MatthewTaylor3 4 жыл бұрын

I laughed at that too

@wynnfpv 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing man! Would like to get some of these sometime to test out!!

@aerialimagery3216 4 жыл бұрын

I would think it would take more work (amps) to spin a motor bell with this design. So the question is what’s more efficient, higher amps with a turbine bell design, or a little bit higher kv motor that would make more thrust? You should put Your quad on a scale and go full throttle with no props to see if they are actually producing thrust. I would think the thrust would be almost nothing because the air would have to be forced through the motor windings. They maybe great for cooling though.

@MaxBeamer 4 жыл бұрын

its very little thrust, a few grams per motor. Good point about the amp draw tho I didn't really think of that.

@KAREAREADRONES 4 жыл бұрын

Here you are ~ please check it. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/l-CIaMZzlq3Hfp8.html

@stevenkelby2169 4 жыл бұрын

A bit over 2 grams of thrust per motor at full throttle without props.

@jackiemonroejemfpv4204 4 жыл бұрын

The cooling effect is great! Interesting idea.

@MikeNugget 4 жыл бұрын

Cooling effect is the same as with standard motor case. Because main air flow goes from props in any case.

@boratsagdiyev1586 4 жыл бұрын

@@MikeNugget its a gimmick

@lizmitchel8855 4 жыл бұрын

@@MikeNugget это легко измерить. пусть включит без пропеллера, и какой поток воздуха будет идти?

@ham003latechedu 3 жыл бұрын

Ther was a series run 10 years ago on typhoon helicopter motors, same concept, except the typhoons were more aggressive at suctioning air.

@5c0u53 4 жыл бұрын

Fins on a motor do not create thrust, these offer some cooling to the motor bell but that is about all they do, easy way to test is stick one on a scale and apply power. The windings look nice .

@MaxBeamer 4 жыл бұрын

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/l-CIaMZzlq3Hfp8.html

@thegribbs 3 жыл бұрын

A friend started buying these. Awesome motors, but so delicate. The smallest crashes would break the 'fins'.

@MaxBeamer 3 жыл бұрын

really? im still flying the same 4 since this video all dinged up but flying nicely. i wonder if something went wrong in later production or if it was just an unlucky crash.. 🤷‍♂️

@devilcfpv2621 2 жыл бұрын

I fly the T-Motor F80Pros 2200Kv motors on 6s & on my 780gram 5” GRL Titanium Pro2 frame. I love these motors they have so much power and they handle great In proximity that’s usually what I do is proximity freestyle and race. It’s hard to find a good durable motor that can handle both racing and proximity freestyle flying all in one. I never dial them down either, I use up all their power. Being able to fly into a bando with motors these fast can be hard to tame for some people, but not with these, I can fly through pipes at low speeds and then to be able to keep up with sports cars or street bikes for longer periods of time, they’re more then capable of keeping up with just about anything .... These are 100% my all purpose motors at the moment

@joseluisbarrios2319 4 жыл бұрын

Should you unplug your bells when connecting to betaflight?

@MaxBeamer 4 жыл бұрын

lmao should be ok 👊

@earlybirdflights9884 4 жыл бұрын

Nice flying there you have some great skills, hope I fly an 5" inch one day they look so dialed in.

@van_what 4 жыл бұрын

best FPV channel on YT...Thanks for the review! also the 5x3.1 are so good

@MaxBeamer 4 жыл бұрын

thanks man! glad you like the props im trying to spread the word about em haha

@PropagndaX 4 жыл бұрын

🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 Kiwi Ingenuity bruh 💯

@ReeferNoob23 4 жыл бұрын

Dude if you go to their web site they have a very detailed spec sheet on these motors like a crazy amount of info now for how accurate it all is i have no idea but the specs ans motors look fantastic

@briancourtice2858 4 жыл бұрын

I'm skeptical. The fins are going to cause drag that has to be overcome, which I'd expect to lower the efficiency.

@flygtur7784 4 жыл бұрын

Nah not really. They also cools the stator which in turn reduces the resistance in the wires as well as giving you some extra thrust. You should be able to fly more aggressive

@pasifpv5508 4 жыл бұрын

@@flygtur7784 hahah no.

@flygtur7784 4 жыл бұрын

Pasi FPV ha ha yes

@FB0102 4 жыл бұрын

Flygtur You are right that it helps by cooling the winding. He is right in that it does not help by generating thrust. Thats bs. Even if it did generate thrust, it would be extremely inefficient at it, so you would be better off generating that same thrust with a slightly larger prop than trying to do it with the motor.

@flygtur7784 4 жыл бұрын

FB0102 Then I’m still right even if the thrust is pretty much insignificant

@KelkieFPV 4 жыл бұрын

wow what a great concept thats what i love about this hobby

@aaron6516 4 жыл бұрын

Nice idea.... pretty cool! Great flying too man!!!

@eulogy1981 4 жыл бұрын

They are awesome got new a pair as well and the fact that they are made from titanium. Kicks ass

@MaxBeamer 4 жыл бұрын

love to hear it! I think only the stator is made from titanium haha would be super heavy otherwise

@DavidReynolds-kr6yh 4 жыл бұрын

They look pretty damn cool to me. I’m in Australia so they should take a hell of a lot less time to arrive when I order them from New Zealand lol. Glad I found this review.

@carminecarlone2869 4 жыл бұрын

So the video in here is from the actual flight cam, or is it from the gopro on top??

@MaxBeamer 4 жыл бұрын

its from the gopro my dude

@PeterRospond 4 жыл бұрын

Good info and great flying :)

@Kabab 4 жыл бұрын

There are a few motors in the past that have tried to do something similar.....Would you mind showing a closer up image or video of the flutes in the bell top? I'm specifically looking to see if the leading edge of those blades/flutes are actually sloped to pull in air or if they're in fact just flat like they seem to be and the trailing edge is sloped.

@MaxBeamer 4 жыл бұрын

theyre sloped ill send u a pic

@Kabab 4 жыл бұрын

@@MaxBeamer got it. Thanks. Apparently the motors generate about 2g of thrusts or air flow each 😅. So it's probably not doing anything but the drag from the top of the be is maybe just the slightest touch improved. Good effort by kariarea. If they're really gonna be spending real money on R&D, I've got quite the roadmap of innovation in processing....

@pdtech4524 4 жыл бұрын

Makes sense, wonder why they've not implemented this method before? 👍😎

@MaxBeamer 4 жыл бұрын

I think ppl have been trying to various degrees for many years but this is the first attempt that actually produces any real air flow (from my understanding)

@wovenskin 4 жыл бұрын

No higher kv? Haven’t made the switch to 6s yet 😕

@MaxBeamer 4 жыл бұрын

For now I think its just the 1950kv there may be more options in the near future.

@enarramore77 4 жыл бұрын

sweet Motor, Killer motor! Do you thing 4.2 BF is ready to upgrade?

@MaxBeamer 4 жыл бұрын

yeh I was very surprised with how it performs, a much better experience than initially switching to 4.1

@enarramore77 4 жыл бұрын

@@MaxBeamer looks like i know what i am doing this weekend hehe

@Reecefpv 4 жыл бұрын

That's awesome. Can't believe it took em this long to make something like this

@beaubrinkley499 3 жыл бұрын

What's the best way for me to learn more about motor control and steering software? Is there books, videos, or details I should find?

@jlarson42 4 жыл бұрын

Great review. Interesting idea, keeping motors cool is always a good thing. For me they are well outside my budget. But I am looking forward to seeing how well they help your tune. Happy flying. 🤓

@garamfpv 4 жыл бұрын

Wow, the motor sounds good and the flight is great, bro👌🏻👌🏻😎👍🏻

@pickeljuice9325 4 жыл бұрын

Throw it on an arm with a pivot on top of a scale, see if they actually make any thrust

@MaxBeamer 4 жыл бұрын

check out kareareadrones channel they did some thrust tests, its a few grams per motor

@fpvnycdream_4197 4 жыл бұрын

Dahm loving these motors. They look like your running 1950kv. Awsome !

@abdellahbarrous8516 4 жыл бұрын

Awesome flying !

@MaxBeamer 4 жыл бұрын

thanks man!

@vaejoviscarolinanus 4 жыл бұрын

If I wanted to get into this hobby what would it cost all out to get these 2 quads and a good ( easy to fly transmitter)? Looks like a blast.

@MaxBeamer 4 жыл бұрын

this is usually what I recommend to ppl that want to get into the hobby, all in one kit, indoor outdoor, and wont suck when you crash it (which you will over and over until you get the hang of flying) haha bit.ly/3eZOrUZ

@nikolaskurnia7404 4 жыл бұрын

What was causing the vibration after your crash? I have that after a crash on my quad and don't know hot to get rid of it.

@cyberpunkfpv3032 4 жыл бұрын

Bent prop, oblivious. Or bent motor.

@MaxBeamer 4 жыл бұрын

it was just a bent prop, if you still have it after swapping props then its most likely a motor bell that got dented or warped slightly off balance

@casper01 4 жыл бұрын

Just think how much faster they would be if they were red.. red is always faster.. :) Epic motors, thanks heaps for publishing this informative coolness on them motors mate

@MaxBeamer 4 жыл бұрын

haha my pleasure!

@SteveRCPilot 4 жыл бұрын

Would these motors not draw more amps since they essentially have built in a drag coefficient? And they should slow down faster when unloaded?

@MaxBeamer 4 жыл бұрын

they might draw a bit more amps bc of the stronger magnets but I dropped the kv a bit to balance that out, I don't know about the drag tho I don't think its nearly as much as what it gets from the props so probably negligible in that aspect

@ipravoqator 3 жыл бұрын

hi. face a choice. please tell me what is better to choose ? korearea turbine 1950 kv or t-motor f80 pro 1900kv. which is better?

@DIYwithBatteries 4 жыл бұрын

Woooow 😃 that looks awesome Dude! I love it 😍.👍

@MrPurepecha87 3 жыл бұрын

This is how I dream sometimes

@Clynikal 4 жыл бұрын

HYPE! makes the motor lighter while the rotor is fastened to the stator?? Mini fins on the rotors vs the huge props? Not hating on you bro, it's just a hype product.

@MaxBeamer 4 жыл бұрын

nah man. the previous versions of this motor were hype which is why I nevertalked about them, this one actually has airflow.

@Vizr 4 жыл бұрын

Are gonna main these motors for a hot min? Durability review after some run time would be cool. These motors look hella interesting tbh. Love your channel bro!

@MaxBeamer 4 жыл бұрын

thx man, yeh im gonna be using them for a while, im also interested in the durability

@weeral1 4 жыл бұрын

Seems to me they could just make some caps (from whatever material you want) you could glue onto any current motor.. since it is supposedly so expensive to make these. I don't see why it has to be built in to the housing.

@MaxBeamer 4 жыл бұрын

Motors need to be perfectly balanced like to the .1 gram or even further, a little extra glue on one side or the other or having the top a little crooked and its game over! not to mention so many other issues haha I like the creativity tho

@lamiemolette 4 жыл бұрын

Actually, those already exist. They're called propellers 😁

@weeral1 4 жыл бұрын

@@MaxBeamer Interesting that a prop can be a bit off but the housing can't .. learned something new!

@explosivefruits 4 жыл бұрын

i like your video style, super chill. Thanks for the info!

@argyleskyfpv461 4 жыл бұрын

Great video and awesome motors!!

@changeagent228 4 жыл бұрын

I wish ion thrusters were efficient so we could do away with motors and have laminar flow thrust.

@GiffysChannel 4 жыл бұрын

Destin from smarter everyday: did I hear someone say laminar flow?!

@MaxBeamer 4 жыл бұрын

that would be so sick im sure its coming not too long from now haha

@changeagent228 4 жыл бұрын

@@MaxBeamer I wouldn't expect them any time soon with how little our batteries store. Ion thrusters in air are barely 0.4 grams per watt efficient under ideal conditions. Remove the battery and add a wireless power source then maybe. Ion thrusters could one day be nutty fast considering you don't have to worry about prop tips going supersonic as there are none haha.

@MasterChef-ux3gk 4 жыл бұрын

Soon enough the motors will be the propellers 😂 the bell will do all the work. Just don't dent them

@MaxBeamer 4 жыл бұрын

haha thad be sick!

@martinchege8487 4 жыл бұрын

Wow super cool stuff 💫😁

@Hwyw 4 жыл бұрын

Do you guys think this is worth buying? Like noticeably better preformence?

@bajablastfreeze4957 4 жыл бұрын

I’d love to see a tuning video. Very interesting

@TheBjornarv 4 жыл бұрын

73A burst. Good thing that the aikon can handle it. rated max 45 burst.

@MrTrevorroe 4 жыл бұрын

I need to testicle them motors, they are the way forward, ill keep a look out for some, probably not in the model shops for 6 months in the uk, great flying too, happy flying and keep safe mate :)

@MaxBeamer 4 жыл бұрын

ya gotta testiclez em for sure

@MrTrevorroe 4 жыл бұрын

@@MaxBeamer haha🤣🤣🤣

@jman7770 3 жыл бұрын

2207 vs 2306 series? Loving my new Mark4 HD 5 frame and thinking of building a new one with this brand.

@MaxBeamer 3 жыл бұрын

im in favor of 2306 in almost every scenario so ima say that!

@Martin1519 3 жыл бұрын

I feel like if karearea intended their motors to be cooler than other motors, why not make it in a higher KV since higher KV motors are the ones that have a lot of heat? I was dissapointed to see they only have their motors in 1950KV. Would have loved to see a 2500KV version

@MaxBeamer 3 жыл бұрын

Well the kv is super high for 6s actually.. 2500kv is a 4s kv and relatively a mid-range motor kv when compared to 1950 on 6s As for why they only made them for 6s my guess is as good as yours 🤷‍♂️

@sinnedfpv5333 4 жыл бұрын

Great idea I love this motors. I can’t wait to see what all the competitors are gonna came up with especially Iflight. We might don’t need props anymore in a couple of years 😂

@MaxBeamer 4 жыл бұрын

haha wouldnt that be something! I guess Gemfan would have to start making toothpicks or somethin lol

@shawndubay4050 4 жыл бұрын

Prop sized turbine blades would be pretty cool and probably increase speed alot. Plus cooling would be covered with all the thrust. Basically an unshouded electric ducted fan like in rc model jets. The jet drone.

@wallfpv 4 жыл бұрын

Do you have a trick tutorial for the nice spin at 5:02 ? Really sick

@MaxBeamer 4 жыл бұрын

not yet but thats a good idea!

@wallfpv 4 жыл бұрын

Max Beamer i will have a Look 👀 😉

@DizzyRC 4 жыл бұрын

I call it a gimmick. I would agree the fins at the top of the motor does attribute to some cooling. I think mostly you are feeling the stronger magnets.

@MaxBeamer 4 жыл бұрын

i'd call it a feature but to each his own haha, it flys better than my old toas (for now) so im going with it until something happens to change my mind.

@DizzyRC 4 жыл бұрын

@@MaxBeamer I have flown RC airplanes for the last 20 years. 14 of those years have been giant scale 3D with gas engines. Baffling the cowl around the engine is a must. I know you are thinking that has nothing to do with electric motors on a quad. The same aerodynamic rules apply. Airflow always takes the path of least resistance. If the openings between the windings were larger, the fins would be more effective. The bottom of the bell is just like every other motor. only so much air can get through. It appears they are great motors, with quality components.

@NatureDigitalPhotography 3 жыл бұрын

Any info on the tune you did for this quad and motors?

@c_labb9247 4 жыл бұрын

Kawasaki is into so many things, them and Mitsubishi electronics found inside so many things. Good stuff! 🤙

@gavwilldo 4 жыл бұрын

Would be interesting to see a temp difference putting 2 of the same kv motors on a quad with 2 of these, as I’ve found from using heli motors with a cooling impeller, on a plane with a prop, the prop itself pushes more air through the motor than the impeller making zero difference with or without it on there

@MaxBeamer 4 жыл бұрын

very good idea! I might try that exact thing

@stevenkelby2169 4 жыл бұрын

Looking good Max! Interesting motors, with the thousands we spend on this hobby, the extra $40 for a set of great motors is no big deal imo. If I was in the market, I'd buy.

@soothsayerfpv6835 4 жыл бұрын

Sweet video!

@TFFantasyArt 4 жыл бұрын

What are between your motors and your 4 in 1 esc? I've seen those around but haven't gotten an answer. Are they to save you motor wires from prop strikes?

@MaxBeamer 4 жыл бұрын

that and it makes it easier for me to swap and try different motors since I'm always testing stuff. this is the kind I use bit.ly/3gknc7F but theres a bunch some with LEDs etc just search "racewire"

@TFFantasyArt 4 жыл бұрын

@@MaxBeamer cool! Thanks for the response

@NorthStarDrones 4 жыл бұрын

Awesome 💯 thank you

@forteleaerieneromane 4 жыл бұрын

How often do you usually change the props (of course, assuming you don't crash break them)?

@MaxBeamer 4 жыл бұрын

almost never lol ill only swap a prop if its bent or really chipped

@forteleaerieneromane 4 жыл бұрын

@@MaxBeamer I ask because I broke several props mid air (from the stress probably, no crashing involved) and I thought maybe there's a maximum recommended flying time for the props

@mosesbrown1979 4 жыл бұрын

Insane!!! I've got like 20 broken drones and controllers all diff kinds. Can I make one of those??? Those motors are crazy

@YQVN35 3 жыл бұрын

3:26 RIP Kentaro Miura

@supafpv1759 4 жыл бұрын

What's the difference between the TOA, Lite, and turbine mainly durability wise, and what is the most worth in your opinion?

@MaxBeamer 4 жыл бұрын

Supa FPV the turbines are lighter and come down much cooler than the lites so far the turbines have been more durable for me too. I’m still running the same original 4 motors from this video and that’s sayin something! Whether or not they’re worth it will depend on the pilot but for me they’re worth it all day, I recommend at least trying them they are definitely worth that!

@supafpv1759 4 жыл бұрын

@@MaxBeamer You've definetly got me hooked on Karearea but is the Lite less durable than the original TOA one you made a video of before where you stated they were the new king motors you liked?

@MaxBeamer 4 жыл бұрын

Supa FPV the problem with the original TOA is even tho the bell is made from a harder aluminum the airgap is extremely small (which is good for power and efficiency) but it’s not so good for durability bc a small ding can cause the bell to rub on the stator. That being said I think the OG TOA might still be a bit more durable in your everyday crashes just bc of the better bearing and harder bell material while I think the lites are more capable of handling a catastrophic crash since they have a wider gap and can be dented deeper... if that makes any sense. Oh and also, the turbine motor is more durable than both of them 😜

@supafpv1759 4 жыл бұрын

@@MaxBeamer Very interesting. Thanks man I really appreciate the input, this really narrows it down to either the turbines, Lite, or the RCinpower smoox which I do believe is made with the 7075 alloy the original TOA is made of. You've got my sub for sure, looking forward to more kick ass videos!

@branmanfpv1593 4 жыл бұрын

Wow that’s cool!!! I want some!!!

@subiadad8169 3 жыл бұрын

@Max Beamer Bro what’s the deal with your camera mount can you point me in the right direction i want some of them for my GoPro Hero8... Good looking

@paulhope3401 4 жыл бұрын

You should do a thrust test with no props on your quad...

@MaxBeamer 4 жыл бұрын

karearea did one on their channel, check it out its a cpl grams per motor of thrust nothing crazy

@Dav2112 4 жыл бұрын

None in stock now, I blame you Max, if you didn't make this video they would have still had them in stock!! 🤣 If you never made this video I wouldn't have known they existed neither, so I wouldn't want to buy a set, I don't need new motors, but I want a set of these now, it's all your fault! 😆

@MaxBeamer 4 жыл бұрын

hahaa I cant win.. hopefully itll be back in stock soon cause I need spares!

@Dav2112 4 жыл бұрын

@@MaxBeamer lol, it's all good man, I'll get a set soon, they only have 1950kv though, I'm still on 4s. 😟

@bendixtrinity 3 жыл бұрын

i wonder if it can hover or produce any lift without props. :D

@GiffysChannel 4 жыл бұрын

Wow, I'm starting to see why you're such a fan of this TOA brand.

@MatthewTaylor3 4 жыл бұрын

Are you using the word FAN as a pun?

@bbab9051 3 жыл бұрын

is these motors are same as the ones that " Armattan " uses ? thanks

@MaxBeamer 3 жыл бұрын

nope these are toa "turbine"

@Minos1209 4 жыл бұрын

Nice looking motors. At best a little more cooling on the windings and thats it.

@MaxBeamer 4 жыл бұрын

Yes indeed!

@The_Eric_Allen 4 жыл бұрын

Great info.

@iamptm 4 жыл бұрын

Ssssick! Buying some now!

@flowrfpv 4 жыл бұрын

"I lowered the KV to 1690" ...that's not how KV works man, you can only limit max. throttle - throttle input value

@MaxBeamer 4 жыл бұрын

you can limit your esc ouput voltage to effectively change the virtual kv of the motor, totally different than max throttle limit I made a whole video on it when it came out in BF here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Zr5nqrSrtb2mgok.html

@flowrfpv 4 жыл бұрын

@@MaxBeamer That means more likely you flied the quad on HV 5S instead of 6S, KV determines a lot of motor feel characteristics and you can't just change it with software

@breakalegfpv9532 4 жыл бұрын

2 years and they haven't gained much traction in the fpv community

@ChrisGripeos 4 жыл бұрын

Would this not create extra drag and make efficiency worse? I wonder how much drag, though...

@MaxBeamer 4 жыл бұрын

I think the amount of drag is negligible esp compared to the drag from the props. So far it has about the same flight time and amp draw as my other motors.

@ChrisGripeos 4 жыл бұрын

@@MaxBeamer that sounds great! I'm looking for something to replace my 2407/2200kv motors ( on my 5" :| )and this might the ticket!

@Lando6969 4 жыл бұрын

Whats happening everyone. The motors looks insanely dope. Great video and thanks for the info.

@umarmars47 3 жыл бұрын

What's inside the motors?? Tesla Turbine??

@SKIDOOSH 4 жыл бұрын

Bruh...LD power did that years ago...just an FYI...I still have some if you would like to see pics.

@MaxBeamer 4 жыл бұрын

did it actually work? I did some research before making the video and found quite a few companies have tried to make the equivalent of some sort of fin on the bell, even Emax had something similar. From what I found though, none of them actually scooped air and most of the "fins" were actually flat underneath.. if I remember correctly the ldpower motors were one of the curved top flat bottom type deal, could be wrong tho since those were probably before my time haha

@SKIDOOSH 4 жыл бұрын

@@MaxBeamer due to the thrust vector of props it is very limited on how much air is available near the hub for any fins to use. They may help a bit with cooling and they do make a ool sound. You can see the LDpower on miniquadtestbench page.

@mohammadwasilliterate8037 4 жыл бұрын

Great idea😂

@SettekFpv 4 жыл бұрын

Emax 2205 Red Bottoms had also Active Cooling ;)

@MaxBeamer 4 жыл бұрын

yeh that was I guess where it all started although those motors actually drew air from the bottom up and didn't do a very good job of it either, these draw air from the top down cooling the windings even more and creating a tiny amount of positive thrust.

@MatthewTaylor3 4 жыл бұрын

This quad should have been placed on a scale with the propellers removed, then the quad armed and moved to max RPM so I can see how much thrust is produced. I feel the turbines are just a hoax for thrust, but useful for keeping the coils cool

@MaxBeamer 4 жыл бұрын

here ya go kzfaq.info/get/bejne/l-CIaMZzlq3Hfp8.html

@pedronhfd6969 3 жыл бұрын

Max I just got this Motors how did you manage lowering the filters so much in BF I got the same FC but 30x30 and when I move(lower) the slider more than 1.2 on the filters my motors make noise, please let me know the trick, I got other Radix and same thing they dont like when I lower the filters. Thanks

@MaxBeamer 3 жыл бұрын

What does it sound like?? The normal cause of not being able to lower filters is some sort of vibration/oscillation getting to the FC and if the motors are brand new I’d check things like loose mounting/ cracks in the frame etc

@pedronhfd6969 3 жыл бұрын

@@MaxBeamer Thanks Max, the motors are new and the frame too. If I go lower than 1.2 the sound changes like I got old berings, is that normal on radix? I will like to take advantage of this motors.

@ivoryviking 4 жыл бұрын

Been looking at these too. I want to grab a set

@ronhailespaku 4 жыл бұрын

Hey bro how do you limit your motors to a lower Kv?

@MaxBeamer 4 жыл бұрын

here ya go this should explain everything you need to know I show how to do it around the middle of the vid kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Zr5nqrSrtb2mgok.html

@wing_it 4 жыл бұрын

Try to fly without props (only motor challenge)

@Spectamin 4 жыл бұрын

Why u didnt tried without props. As us said i can produce thrust with out props. And u said its turbine. But they arnt

@MaxBeamer 4 жыл бұрын

check the video on kareareadrones channel

@MindRiderFPV 4 жыл бұрын

Next...real turbines.

@MaxBeamer 4 жыл бұрын

cant wait!

@c_labb9247 4 жыл бұрын

41?? Said I was #42. Closer. Love watching the stick overlay.

@MaxBeamer 4 жыл бұрын

made this a few days ago haha its 43 now 🎉

@anzacFPV 4 жыл бұрын

Great looking motors. I just purchased 10 of them because of your vid. I let them know aswell. They should go really well on my 7" 6s long range crossfire quad. Thanks

@MaxBeamer 4 жыл бұрын

🚀🚀🚀

@Bigbeardfpv 4 жыл бұрын

Hey Max - I'd love some 2306.5 motors in the flavors of 1600KV, 2200KV, and 2700KV for freestyle on 6s, 5s, and 4s

@taneliharkonen2463 4 жыл бұрын

You have limited the motor kv to 1690?! What? Did you unwind the stator poles by a loop or two or what do you mean?

@MaxBeamer 4 жыл бұрын

betaflight has a cli command for motor output limiting basically limits the voltage from the esc to the motors to whatever equivalent kv % you enter. I have a video on it here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Zr5nqrSrtb2mgok.html

@taneliharkonen2463 4 жыл бұрын

Oh cool thats new 😮

@flyguycinematic6030 4 жыл бұрын

I’m not the sharpest tool in the shed but why haven’t they thought of that in the first place It just seems so simple of an idea in design that has been around for years

@MaxBeamer 4 жыл бұрын

its probably expensive to produce fins on the motor bell like that or an inconvenience at the least lol

@rebuildfpv2830 4 жыл бұрын

Interesting.. nice review sir!

@davesfpvfiftyfiveco.7716 4 жыл бұрын

The thing that is bad in my opinion is the durability might be weird depending on where you hit the bell. then you have to have CCW and CW motors which would get annoying. Also the price. And truly how much cooling is this really making considering you have a 5” prop and are moving at a constant rate of speed. I guess time will tell good video bro🤟🏽 they should make a 1700kv to shave that extra little bit of weight.