@@captainzitrone True.

@@captainzitrone I think it was more a lack of interest as Enterprise really wasn't that well received. It was much better later but by then, it seems the damage was done as ratings were low.

In fact it was internal company battle. Former owner of company splited and new management came to part owning most ST, new management didnt knew anything about ST so they stopped production to "save money". Increase end year profit and get bigger paycheck. Only it didnt worked out in the end and now they are about to being fired after years as company is nearing its bankruptcy.

Agreed, and what really pee's me off about that, is I saw a video somewhere, that said Shren would most likely have ended up as part of the bridge crew in the 4th season

They never had enough starships or variation imo

The books with his exploits are quite good even if they do include the absolute stain that is Section 31.

@@Guardias Section 31 is the only reason why Earth survives while rest live in lala land. Without having intel on outside threats, you doom your own species.

@@Guardias if its any consolation even the klingons, a hyper warrior race bent on war also have a shadowy black ops group.

@Mick Car Every Star Trek series has its own book series, going waaaay back to TOS times. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Star_Trek_novels

@@Nexus9118 If the survival of the Federation rests on those who betray it's soul then it should burn. Section 31 exists only to serve Section 31 as evidenced in the books.

Your voice over is on Point, as always.

*Hug* Dad?

Actually for some reason in the books the grid detected warp capable ships traveling at impulse so the Romulans used small ships that weren't warp capable. But yes that was a very obvious issue

Iirc he had some trouble getting licencing approved to get his latest "Patterns of Interference" done so I'm guessing it's related in some way to the new shows that are happening but who knows. Same thing happened to preDisney Star Wars Expanded Universe books

@@Zreen001 Thats a real shame, I enjoy his writting a lot and while I dont think Patters was his best work I was enjoying Rise of the Federation a lot, and Im not really interested in the Kirk stuff he is doing.

I think in most fans eyes the Earth-first two-parter was the true finale to Enterprise. The last episode was Riker being drunk on the holodeck.

@@Gangerworld Or it was Riker reading Wesley's lame attempt at historical fan fiction.

Let's have a redo based on the books.

@@bringbackenterprise9220 better yet let's have some full length motion pictures based off the book! Then it will become cannon.

FASA's soucebooks is where my canon ends. The rest is fan fiction. Some good, some bad, but fan fiction.

Hell, by TNG they'd forgotten about the idea of rebooting a system from protected backups - Geordi had to invent it all over again to defeat the Iconian virus!

I always find it very frustrating when aliens just walk onto the bridge of a ship and are able to access all ship functions without so much as needing a password

@@DeaconBlues117 You know, I sat here for a moment, thought back to the Contagion, and realized you're completely right - seems like a lot of problems in Star Trek would be solved if the computer's higher functions were "read only".

Changing the official year of his "death" really was strange. Everyone who knew Trip would remember him dying in '55 and many of them would live into the 23rd century. By then, Trip's death would've been in the history books and if the date was wrong someone would've noticed and said something. I don't see when there'd be a chance to change something like that without anyone noticing. Obviously the writers did that so Trip could be a spy during the Romulan war, which already had a fixed time in canon, so I totally forgive them for that.

@@limiv5272 - Well, I remember at the time thinking, "Why are they sending Trip?" (I know, the original reason was for him to steal the warp 7 engine from the Romulans, which makes sense for an engineer--but that was just a made up reason.) If you need to send a spy, then it's kind of a no-brainer to send someone who is actually TRAINED as spy. The Enterprise crew has two obvious candidates: Reed, who had been in Section 31, and T'Pol, who as a young woman served as a V'Shar agent. And since they needed someone going into the Romulan Star Empire, the obvious no-brainer would be someone who could actually pass as Romulan--and that would be T'Pol. But let's say they do want to pursue the warp 7 plotline and provide an excuse for Trip to fake his death down the road--then let me fix this for them... There was no need to "kill" Trip BEFORE he was "dead." Militaries and spy agencies send operatives out on "special assignment" all the time. They don't claim that they're dead, they just don't tell anyone--including their families--where they are going. Starfleet decides, "Okay we need to find out what's happening behind that Copper Curtain, and it would be nice to get an evaluation of their technology, maybe get our hands on some of it. Let's send Trip Tucker. He's the most experienced engineer in Starfleet--and he's actually already worked with Romulan technology. But, wait a minute, we can't just send him in there alone--he's not trained as a spy. Someone, who is already trained, needs to be there to watch his back. Well, the obvious candidate is his girlfriend, T'pol. She's highly skilled and can already pass as a Romulan--and she'll do anything to protect him and the intelligence we want him to bring out of there." They send them both in for a SINGLE mission, doesn't need to be this years long ordeal. Although, if the writer wants up the ante, they could end up getting caught--for months--behind enemy lines. They can't contact Starfleet; there's no rescue ship coming; they're marooned. But they still have their cover, so, with her cunning and his technical skills, they take it upon themselves to start sabotaging the Romulan war machine, so that a technologically inferior Earth can actually defeat a technologically superior foe. Meanwhile, Trip and T'pol have each other to interact with on a personal level, their romance can continue to blossom, or whatever. Neither are out there alone. They manage to make it out, get back to the Enterprise, mission accomplished. Section 31 takes notice of this, "Hmmm...this southern catfish fella is actually pretty impressive--and now he has real experience in the field. We could use him." They make him an offer he can't refuse, fake his death on the ACTUAL date, given us in "These are the Voyages," and the story continues on from there. Fixed it.

@@MoonjumperReviews In the books section 31 didn't know what Romulans looked like before Trip came back, and they DID pair him with an actual spy. The spy just inconveniently died very early on. Anyway I agree they could've done a better job explaining why Trip needed to fake his death

@Limi V - Unless my memory is faulty, which is possible, my recollection is that 31 did know before they recruited Trip. They surgically altered Trip before they ever sent him (he didn’t return and go back). They did send him in with a pilot to smuggle him in and out. Like you said, that guy was killed early on, and then Trip remained in the Empire posing as a Romulan for the remainder of the war. That’s my recollection, but it’s been awhile.

@@MoonjumperReviews I just read it last week and they definitely didn't know. The Section paid Adigeon surgeons to make Trip and the other guy look like Romulans because the Adigeons operated as go betweens for the Romulans, but the Adigeons didn't tell them what they'll look like in advance and seemed convinced Trip and the other guy won't live long enough for anyone to find out what Romulans look like. I got the ebooks so I could look it up for you if you want and tell you what chapter it was

You should really read the books

Just ignore that Riker-Troi long-delayed TNG episode about the NX-01. It had no relation to what actually happened on NX-01. The holodeck was broken, as usual.

There is one it's called the mirror universe

@@thomas6126 I am not talking about the mirrior universe

@@leonmesquita1690 Me too, the humans as they are....are too passive aggressive and way too peaceful. Idk too good to be true, its like hippies took over human civilization in ST.

Lol!

When it started producing stories that were tied to Canon and pre-dated TOS!

and provided a back-story prior to "KIRK" and the NCC-1701!

Best star trek series was Enterorise it should be restarted with Scott Bakula as Admiral archer and the Romulan War.

I have to think that only 100 years after WWIII, someone read an old book on hacking and network security and realized that hacking can happen on a spaceship. Maybe a copy of Ender's Game was in a Starfleet engineers computer or something like that.

@Stripey Arse hey that's even better!

@Stripey Arse Don't tell me. Tuesday.

"I guess a Vulkan's gotta do, what a Vulkan's gotta do... The Andorians on the other hand, they were HAPPY to provide the Phasers"

In the books the sharing of starship related technologies only happened after the Romulan war ended and the Federation was founded. Then the different technologies didn't work well together and they brought in Tobin Dax to fix everything, even though Tobin should've lived in the 23rd century and not the 22nd

@@limiv5272 Ohhh, so starfleet had to use what they had available. I like that even better

Nah, I'll just lop off one of your wiggly bits.

You are right.

To fight over such a contention would be illogical.

I think the contrast with the Vulcans is one of the main things that makes Andorians look so cool, so the Vulcans are necessary

As in; colder?😀 Kinda obvious if you think about it.

The Good That Men Do Kobayashi Maru Beneath the Raptor's Wing To Brave the Storm

@@Zreen001 thank you I will definitely check them out

@@V2011F be aware that the fate of the Columbia isn't in this set and is instead depicted in the kinda convoluted Titan: Destiny series. Haven't gotten to those yet but these are marginally connected to it through Columbia. Without going into spoilers.

@@Zreen001 The Good That Men Do is sooo goood

Trip didn't die. Riker's story on the holodeck regarding the NX-01 was faulty. Par for the course of a holodeck on the Enterprise D. O'Brien jokes about that with Worf when Worf appears on FS9.

that is a bit pf a grey area as far as i can tell but then agagain alove of the pre-tos stuff is in a grey area.

According to Data in the TNG episode "Power Play," the Daedalus-was withdrawn from service in 2196. It stands to reason that they would've been in use during the Earth-Romulan War.

@@Willpower-74205 ah. Cool. I will add this to my database. Ha. Thanks.

@@Willpower-74205 neat i did't remember that line.

I saw an artist's rendition of him on some website, transparent skull included.

@@Willpower-74205 nice

That would make more sense from a tactical perspective

Spolier alert: It was only for the duration of his mission. No worries, the best ENT couple got back together at the end of his mission in the books. :)

@Rising Horizon Gaming Thanks.

It is ...in our hearts.

This sounds a lot like bad fanfic, frankly.

Eewwww... Discovery...

i think kurtzman is the one thing a black hole couldn't devour.

Honestly I dismiss anything after Enterprise. STD and Picard can fuck off. The animated series makes no sense either.