First Ride 2023 KTM 300SX Two Stroke + 250/125

First Ride 2023 KTM 300SX Two Stroke + 250/125 - Motocross Action Magazine

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The 2023 KTM Two-Stroke lineup is all-new! Motocross Action got to ride the highly anticipated 300SX two stroke at Red Bud. This isn't a typical TESTED video from the MXA wrecking crew but we do give a brief overall description and details on the bike. KTM limited us to time on the bike so we worked with what was given. Also we have a bonus for our viewers! The 2023 KTM 250SX and 125SX two-stroke made their way into the video as well. All of these bikes are in pre-production form and are expected to be in our hands officially August 2022. Until then, enjoy our first day of initial feedback at one of the most iconic tracks on the circuit!
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@StoneStraiff 2 жыл бұрын

With all the manufacturers making electric bikes, I love ktm for improving two strokes. Used to be a honda guy but this makes me love KTM more.

@Davido50 2 жыл бұрын

KTM is far better these days! Husqvarna & GasGas are phenomenal.

@benkrauz725 2 жыл бұрын

What class is this made for ? Is there a 300 class now 🤔 or is it for 450

@ashtonwakkinen9874 2 жыл бұрын

@@benkrauz725 this would be open or 450

@MarcSherwood 2 жыл бұрын

They are doing great things with Electric bikes too.

@microsoft790 2 жыл бұрын

KTM knows that ICE Is not going anywhere. Electric bikes are a FAD

@abracing199 2 жыл бұрын

So stoked on ktm continuing to evolve two strokes. Time to speak with the wallet.

@normanorench2534 2 жыл бұрын

the ktm 2023 xc model brought the leg to turn on

@mikeherrmann5360 2 жыл бұрын

They should put Pleshinger on that 250 this year for the Nationals

@peteschiavoni 2 жыл бұрын

I’m happy to see KTM improving 2 strokes. Hopefully other manufacturers get on the ball.

@youtubeaccount9058 2 жыл бұрын

I hope somebody keeps offering a conventional bike with a carb and mechanical powervalve though. I have a carb'd 2018 300 XC and I just ride and ride it, there is little to go wrong, and can kickstart and ride it with a dead battery (even no battery at all). Meanwhile I overhearing about TPI's sensor issues, ECU error codes coming up, cold seizures, and uploading new maps. The two injectors on this new one will be a possible problem, since they are on 4 strokes when they get fouled. These new bikes may be great and I hope they are but I hope Beta or somebody keeps making a quality, simple 2 stroke.

@peteschiavoni 2 жыл бұрын

@@EarthSurferUSA Not a bot. I’m not saying all bikes have to be done up with every technological thing in the world, but a solid 2 stroke with the possibility for improvements. Personally I like the Yamaha YZ250X platform as starting point for myself. Then I can add on what I want. Upgrade what I want and it will help me learn my bike- just like I’ve been doing since late 70’s. It helps to know your equipment so you can trail fix a breakdown and get home. Now I know this isn’t for everyone but it’s my opinion based on my likes is all.

@Mr10usdad 2 жыл бұрын

Make two strokes great again!

@davewyatt1468 2 жыл бұрын

so happy it’s premix.

@jmzochsnrtr 2 жыл бұрын

Lol what happened to the electronic oil injection??

@Davido50 2 жыл бұрын

@@jmzochsnrtr doesn't work well on high performance bikes.

@64maxpower 2 жыл бұрын

Why?

@64maxpower 2 жыл бұрын

@@Davido50 did your KTM lock up because the oil injection broke?

@davewyatt1468 2 жыл бұрын

i’m my opinion it’s good to be able to control the amount of lubricant your 2 stroke gets, TPI seems very lean to meet regulations but in turn can sometimes sacrifice longevity.

@DislodgedTKO 2 жыл бұрын

This is the bike everyone is excited for this year. Love to see ktm still putting in R&D on two strokes, wish it had the kick start still though

@eric6rock 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah they should have it for a back up in case of the electronics are dead. Still a good bike with not having to mess with the carbs in certain altitudes. But the Rev Limiter on the 2 strokes is my new favorite thing!!

@FrenchyRider574 Жыл бұрын

Yet on the yz250 everybody wants an electric start and hydrolic clutch lol

@253MC 2 жыл бұрын

I can’t believe there’s no 150… i absolutely love the 150 sx :( It was the most fun bike on the market

@johnwadsworth4916 2 жыл бұрын

Change cylinder

@spacegrass2738 2 жыл бұрын

I’ll keep my 2022 150sx.I like kickstarting it and have been dealing with carburetors my entire life.I am 44 and old school but it just feels more like a real bike.Absolutely love it and all KTM’s

@user-se7vt5ow4e 2 жыл бұрын

The Rieju 300 still has a kickstart and a carburetor plus KYB suspension and an FMF pipe.

@hoptard 2 жыл бұрын

Totally agree..... I'm 58 and love my '19' tc250, best woods bike I've experienced.....tuning a carb is easy, installed a Dicks Racing 36/39 modded Keihin with a tx300 enduro tank, then a Rekluse RadiusX and FWW.....it's lightweight...flat out rips and doesn't stall....great for hare scrambles/enduros.

@rileyvosper411 6 ай бұрын

more motocross 100 percent but electric start is better all round in enduro, still better in moto but doesn't matter as much.

@postmortemspasm 2 жыл бұрын

I think for an MX bike, electric start only is fine, because youre never more than 5 minutes from your car, so can easily just push the bike back and jump start it. Enduro bikes on the other hand should always have a kick start cause youre often in the middle of nowhere

@chadb2077 2 жыл бұрын

Agree 100%, not having a kickstart on an enduro is kinda silly

@dronermal 2 жыл бұрын

Enduro engine next year won't be the same as MX engine.

@postmortemspasm 2 жыл бұрын

@@dronermal im aware

@Davido50 2 жыл бұрын

Very nice machines ! KTM is killing it. Top dogs in dirtbike market.

@ktmcrush2290 2 жыл бұрын

@@EarthSurferUSA Hondas been riding ktm for years

@Bt26x 2 жыл бұрын

I’d like to see laps times on the 300 compared to at 450. 🤘🏼

@jmzochsnrtr 2 жыл бұрын

Everyone knows 2 strokes are faster than 4 strokes. Where you been the past 50 years....

@alexandrakingi8502 2 жыл бұрын

@@jmzochsnrtr dont be silly. I love riding 2 strokes but these modern 450s absolutely blow them out of the water.

@marianflimel318 2 жыл бұрын

@@jmzochsnrtr brotha 😆 wake up

@ddmn3648 2 жыл бұрын

@@alexandrakingi8502 yeah modern motogp bikes 1000cc are way faster than the old motogp 500cc 🤦‍♂

@commiekiller6974 2 жыл бұрын

@@alexandrakingi8502 no 4 strokes are still way slower with modern tech a 450 cc 2 stroke will destroy a 450 4 stroke i mean look at the 250s 2 strokes are way better

@j-sammys5549 Жыл бұрын

Love the fact you can have 2 totally different bike characters with the map switch. Sometimes easy to ride can be more fun and u still get that really light feeling and lack of engine breaking with a 2T!

@kingoffunelvispresley261 2 жыл бұрын

Very Cool 😎Thank you, Thank you Very Much 👍🏻

@motoxmatt 2 жыл бұрын

Great review! Can't wait for the full race review.

@andy5786 2 жыл бұрын

Really like KTM 300 2 stroke very smart Josh thanks dude👍💯

@chrisvillarreal2752 2 жыл бұрын

Same here I thought I bled red turns out it was dark orange

@bwhaskell 2 жыл бұрын

What an epic media event for you guys. No better way for a manufacturer to prove their new technology. KTM will sell a lot of these tbi 2strokes. Quick question. Does the mapping try to help deceleration lubrication issues 2 strokes have? Is the mapping tuned for a rich decel? And how does that affect the off throttle behavior?

@querciagrande 2 жыл бұрын

Imagine where 2-stroke technology would be if Formula 1 adopted 2- strokes like they proposed a while ago.

@sputters2000 2 жыл бұрын

Omg a 2 stroke F1 car would suckkkkk

@mikeslife5941 2 жыл бұрын

Make a 500 two stroke for us that would be beast

@OnoratoRestorations 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing. I love the channel I just subscribed.

@Equinsu_Ocha 2 жыл бұрын

Looks like I'm going KTM!

@SuperXs1100 2 жыл бұрын

Finally 20 year old snowmobile technology on dirtbikes. Electronic power valves are 1980s GP bike tech, been wondering why it hasnt came sooner like honda did, and yamaha on their DT200 and TDR250

@kenharris8743 2 жыл бұрын

You're a smart man I was thinking the same thing two stroke technology has continued to improve many people don't know because it is improved on board snowmobiles

@JohnHowerton137 2 жыл бұрын

Because most of the efforts were botched (like that Honda powervalve). Many would probably argue the KTM TPI was botched. Tech from other places often doesn't translate well to high performance dirtbikes until said tech is super advanced. More often, dirtbike tech goes into other industries. Case in point, electric dirtbikes being the proving ground for battery and motor tech.

@KTMsoldier1988 Жыл бұрын

Also the reason snowmobiles cost more and more every year and are closing in on $20k.

@wernerxldata 2 жыл бұрын

Curious if you can change anything on the mapping. Or do we need an aftermarket ecu ?

@gregorygrubb6126 2 жыл бұрын

I have always been a suzuki 2 stroke man but starting to need newer models thinking hard about getting KTM at least they make 2 strokes new

@jdub976 Жыл бұрын

I agree If I get a new bike going straight to the KTM group. Really nice machines now and I never thought I would say that but wow times have changed.

@Dukemoney63 2 жыл бұрын

I'd like to know if the 250sx still hit like it used to. I have been considering getting a much newer bike than my 200sx but wanted to stay on the moto side of things and the e-start would be much welcomed. However, if the 250sx has a mellow powerband like the 300sx, that sounds like less fun. I want that HIT!

@xji2oclx 2 жыл бұрын

Where do u get the mount for your helmet? Chin mount that drops down? That’s the perfect angle.

@Stewart-Jr 2 жыл бұрын

125 😍

@adambatchelder4121 2 жыл бұрын

Not really how the power valve works but it does widen the usable power band.

@danortiz5101 2 жыл бұрын

and i like carburetor better also

@andreasjonsson8075 2 жыл бұрын

How could ktm drop the blue colours!!?? I have the 22 350 and it is a beauty of a bike

@TheShift1313 2 жыл бұрын

Very interesting stuff! I still have a carb ktm 250 but having a mellow map sounds nice. I will say i didnt like hondas electric pv but i am sure 25 years later ktm will gwt it right. Having a 10 year old 250xc im not super thrilled the sx got rid of the kick start all together.....

@chrymix3179 2 жыл бұрын

the 125 sounds so good

@mikeherrmann5360 2 жыл бұрын

I loved my 94 300 MXC. The 550 MXC was way more exiting. Had to have a vary stern talk with my right hand B4 riding that thing

@user-se7vt5ow4e 2 жыл бұрын

Why the ama in their infinite stupidity killed off the two strokes is beyond me. Definitely going to buy another 300. It is the ultimate do it all weapon.

@Davido50 2 жыл бұрын

Was EPA /CAFE restrictions. You have Yamaha & KTM brands still. They are better than old stuff .

@normanorench2534 2 жыл бұрын

the ktm 2023 xc model brought the leg to turn on

@marcusbarnes5929 2 жыл бұрын

What is mix ratio fuel to oil.on the 300sx?

@therealbanksea 2 жыл бұрын

Im glad they are putting purple back on the bikes

@bloomerb4162 2 жыл бұрын

So the 300sx is a little smoother than the 300sx kits even in aggressive map?

@nojfrom.baya. Жыл бұрын

How long do you have to warm up the motorcycle when it is cold so that the spark does not melt?

@charlieluci97 2 жыл бұрын

The shot thing is is that the new ktms still got them short bloody exhaust’s

@JB-th4bx 2 жыл бұрын

I'm an off-road guy, and I'm in the market for a new 300; seeing the 2k price difference between the sx and xc, I think I'm going to get an sx.

@robfn 2 жыл бұрын

Can you guys edit some clips bouncing off the new rev limiter when aired out? Sounds unreal.

@user-mo8tm4jw2l 2 жыл бұрын

My mind says yes but my body says no when you say it’s extremely smooth. I love my 300 as it is with a carb BUT i was looking forwards to tbi in hopes we would have some bark compared to TPI but your not lending much hope to that dream. I’ll remain hopeful until we get some production bikes around for true and more in depth opinions. 🤙🏻

@Tontsa41 2 жыл бұрын

Same here! Got -19 and now -21model with 300sxs kit, pro-circuit pipe/silencer and Boyesen radvalve. Put in that red exhaust spring and it's pure fun! Maybe not the fastest for me as a "weekend warrior", but groving up on 2t era I just simply love that hard hitting..Stock 250sx with yellow spring feels like a enduro bike =).

@barnescycle Жыл бұрын

Can you swap modes while your riding?

@albertoolivieri7622 2 жыл бұрын

💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💯

@thedirtbikingyeti1353 2 жыл бұрын

I can't wait for my 23 300sx gunna be a blast. I was wondering are they 5 or 6 speeds.

@normanorench2534 2 жыл бұрын

the ktm 2023 xc model brought the leg to turn on

@mbrick 2 жыл бұрын

5 speed on the SX bikes.

@my-max-media7621 Жыл бұрын

@@mbrick i was just at the dealership and I ran through the gears (on show floor) '22 250sx and I swear it had a 6 speed. Very strange

@barnescycle Жыл бұрын

Can you swap modes while riding?

@KTMsoldier1988 Жыл бұрын

Best dual sports you tube channel converts a tpi back to a properly tuned lectron carburetor and had HP gains throughout the entire rpm range with a gain of 6 peak HP.

@philosborn1840 2 жыл бұрын

I would like to see that 300 race against a 450. 👍🏻 🇨🇦🇺🇸

@nojfrom.baya. Жыл бұрын

I have that same motor 0 miles, new box, it has already damaged me 4 waits and it does not have a 1 hour of use

@keithmalatesta7660 Жыл бұрын

Jesus dude... you can ride that thing!

@kjc9trader491 2 жыл бұрын

...what was that intro piece of music from??? Awesome...

@warrenyoung7503 2 жыл бұрын

I ordered mine

@nastysoda9212 Жыл бұрын

I really want the 300sx

@Sebastian-ul2si 2 жыл бұрын

Danggg that’s a sexy bike if I ever seen one

@doctordrae 2 жыл бұрын

No audio 😢

@blakebennett8642 2 жыл бұрын

Darn. Stoked that ktm has kept producing 2 strokes I’ve been a 2 stroke guy for awhile now and just got a 22 husky tc250 and love it! But a little sad at the moment because I (alike a lot of other 2 stroke guys) like them because they are old school (kick start, carbs, a little harder to ride, etc) and they just took a lot of the classic 2 stroke out of their bike which is kinda why we are riding and buying them

@Davido50 2 жыл бұрын

Nah it's all evolution!

@normanorench2534 2 жыл бұрын

the ktm 2023 xc model brought the leg to turn on

@minibikemadman 2 жыл бұрын

You have the test the maco 700.

@toddbrackett4277 2 жыл бұрын

How are 2-strokes still in production in 2022?

@dustin9035 2 жыл бұрын

I'll take one of each

@double-oseven5725 2 жыл бұрын

Cheers man. Altitude compensation?

@Rammstone77 2 жыл бұрын

they have auto compensation!

@Kai.Lang94 2 жыл бұрын

Will the husky and gas gas get the same mods as the KTM such as the electric start and fuel injection?

@jayryan1956 2 жыл бұрын

Husky already have fuel injection

@mbrick 2 жыл бұрын

Husky yes, Gasgas MC250 remains carbureted.

@Kai.Lang94 2 жыл бұрын

@@jayryan1956 no they don’t, the new ones will though

@Sleepy.Time. 2 жыл бұрын

considering most modern day riders have no clue how to jet a carb this was likely the right move

@dabraapman5257 2 жыл бұрын

its because everything is fuel injected now, except for these two stroke bikes

@rjwellz 2 жыл бұрын

I ordered the 300xc last week, can't wait to get this beast 🍻

@Davido50 2 жыл бұрын

Nice.

@kirkwilliams4942 2 жыл бұрын

XC is not this version. The enduro versions are the same as '22. I too have ordered a 300 XC-W. We will not get any of these updates until at least '24.

@normanorench2534 2 жыл бұрын

the ktm 2023 xc model brought the leg to turn on

@kirkwilliams4942 2 жыл бұрын

@@normanorench2534 Not sure I understand you comment?

@gregoryharmer5687 2 жыл бұрын

@@kirkwilliams4942 it's a KZfaq bot. That same exact comment is on most of the other comments

@henricusrealms8411 2 жыл бұрын

Map 1...the vet setting.

@nastysoda9212 Жыл бұрын

Where is this track? It looks like heaven

@danielkarlsson608 2 жыл бұрын

Not enough power for Laroccos leap?

@reidgs58 2 жыл бұрын

They weren’t allowed to jump it

@SenorDennis 2 жыл бұрын

Damn I was hoping it would still have the 2 stroke hit.

@ManAndMachine23 2 жыл бұрын

Powervalve is electric now so you’ll just need a different map with an aftermarket ecu

@spirited1puppetmastered917 2 жыл бұрын

Totally agree the two stroke hit = FUN FACTOR, lm not a fan of the homogenizing os sport vehicles, yes it mighr be faster but not as fun same with getting rid od manual transmission in sports cars

@kingofdeath5600 11 ай бұрын

Does the 150 have all these new mods you mention? I'm guessing if the 125 does then the 150 does??

@mt1885 2 жыл бұрын

Wish Suzuki would build 2 strokes again like an RMX250/300.

@chrisnielsen5287 2 жыл бұрын

Ktm really sticking to the great ol saying. MIXING GAS, HAULING ASS

@leift70 2 жыл бұрын

I’m buying the300.

@austinpoh2744 2 жыл бұрын

Wish we could tell which one u were riding in the vid. And if that was the 300 in beginning looked like a slug compared to earlier years

@LGEGuava 2 жыл бұрын

Absolute monsters of a bike

@TS50ER 2 жыл бұрын

KTM, bring out a 500cc. You can then simply explain to riders how the throttle works for power delivery; want more power, pull on the throttle more; want less, ease off on it. 😂

@normanorench2534 2 жыл бұрын

the ktm 2023 xc model brought the leg to turn on?

@nickd698 2 жыл бұрын

How come the first KZfaq review of these bikes is from America! Have I missed something, wheres the Euro reviews?

@paulmarshall8774 2 жыл бұрын

The SX aren’t coming to the UK till September, not sure about the rest of Europe.

@paulmarshall8774 2 жыл бұрын

Are they still 60:1?

@suzuki06g 2 жыл бұрын

Yes.

@sassafraswakeboyz4121 2 жыл бұрын

Thank god it's remix

@brian5606 2 жыл бұрын

Heil to the King . . . KTM

@socks2441 2 жыл бұрын

0:52 why would an electric start bike not have a kickstarter? what happens when you get a flat battery? that lightweight little piece of aluminium could be a lifesaver.

@my-max-media7621 Жыл бұрын

Perhaps do the "Bump Start" thing.

@terrelmchenry9524 2 жыл бұрын

I LOVE THE HAD HITTING PIPE BUT I'M 60...

@Runk3lsmcdougal 2 жыл бұрын

I want a 200, that'd be perfect

@glennfloyd8135 2 жыл бұрын

wonder how easy it will it be to tune,the ECU like with a vortex? or how soon? @motocrossactionmagazine

@jimmysmyth7510 2 жыл бұрын

But... did any one hit laracos leap?

@DonieK519 2 жыл бұрын

They weren't aloud to by ktm one of the press people said

@JohnHowerton137 2 жыл бұрын

They couldn’t just pump the forks a bit for you?

@Certifiedtrolllll 2 жыл бұрын

I agree lol; however, I did learn the other day that in all this time I’ve been racing with air forks, I’ve been adjusting them wrong. The air only effects the height of the bike and keeps the front end up. It doesn’t do anything in terms of stiff or soft, that comes from the clickers. Not a hostile response at all, just trying to spread knowledge.

@JohnHowerton137 2 жыл бұрын

@@Certifiedtrolllll right, but I thought I heard him say it was diving a bit. The air affects hold up like spring rates. Guess he meant valving 🤷🏼‍♂️

@suzuki06g 2 жыл бұрын

When he said soft he could have been talking about the damping and not the spring rate (errr. "air pressure"). 👍👍

@mikebrown41182 2 жыл бұрын

For whatever reason i can only watch it in 360p.

@crnkin2 2 жыл бұрын

Takes a bit for KZfaq to catch up sometimes. Try again soon

@emexduzentos 2 жыл бұрын

I own a 2001 RMX250 with RM tank and seat to ride mx and won't part from it for no amount of money.

@justincardwell8155 2 жыл бұрын

Burns less oil than the 4 strokes;)

@jayryan1956 2 жыл бұрын

Ktm 300 and husky TE 250/ 300 been fuel injecting production enduro models since 2019 why’s it such a surprise and ‘new’ that the motocross bikes now have fuel injection.

@mbrick 2 жыл бұрын

Totally different, TPI vs TBI. Also electronic power valve is added in now.

@ghav43 2 жыл бұрын

6 speed ??

@suzuki06g 2 жыл бұрын

SX will be a 5 speed, the spec sheet says 5 speed for the XC's as well but it's early yet so it might still come in as a 6 speed (but again right now it's spec'd as a 5).

@paulelm4645 2 жыл бұрын

It's only 294cc not full 300

@kinotroikgames2818 2 жыл бұрын

Lectron and Smart Carbs are sweating rn 😂😭

@jpesicka999 2 жыл бұрын

If I was rich im buying a 150 a 300 and maybe 2-3 4 strokes

@deliciousjulien 2 жыл бұрын

No kick stater 😭

@normanorench2534 2 жыл бұрын

the ktm 2023 xc model brought the leg to turn on

@jmzochsnrtr 2 жыл бұрын

Where's the 500cc or 450cc 2 stroke? Where's the fabled electronic oil injection 💉 that's supposed to solve the emission problem???

@vv5179 2 жыл бұрын

Two throttle cables

@sunnysnape6152 2 жыл бұрын

Bruh

@kenharris8743 2 жыл бұрын

The 1984 Yamaha rz350 also had a electronic power valve this is not new technology for two strokes but at least this new technology for the dirt also I might add mellowing out the Power Band to feel more like a four-stroke is for pussies!