#HoangBi #UNDISPUTED #skipbayless FIRST THINGS FIRST | Nick reacts Doncic proves he can conquer crippling weakness on biggest stage
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@jctslice11 күн бұрын
No, not with his current stats. Keep in mind that LeBron averaged like 36 in 2015 in a loss. That was 10 points higher than the next closest guy in Steph at 26 and more than double what the FMVP Iggy averaged at 16
@hec467211 күн бұрын
Lebron also shot under 40% that series
@derrick538011 күн бұрын
You are not valuable if you lose
@bern71711 күн бұрын
Losers don’t deserve the Finals MVP imo. It’s actually insulting in a way
@emeraldkattable11 күн бұрын
@@derrick5380yes you are. Grow up from your 5 year old mentality dude. Getting to the finals alone means you won your conference.
@jctslice11 күн бұрын
@@hec4672 38%, but I don't care about the %s when you average 36. Doesn't matter to me because it's very rare that any player scores that much in a Finals
@mrtwism11 күн бұрын
Giving Finals MVP to a player on the losing team is a slap in the face and insulting. That's how Jerry West felt about it and it's how any normal competitor would feel about it. It doesn't make sense and should not be an option.
@jsenterprise124710 күн бұрын
Makes sense now that you say it
@erikanderson242111 күн бұрын
Nick Wrong, Brou right on this one.
@josephpayton752210 күн бұрын
Tatum lost the MVP to his little brother. Lolololol
@tyrellwilliams31711 күн бұрын
NOBODY should ever be givin that award on a losing team!!! Like htf are u supposed to give that out while the other team is celebrating winning a CHAMPIONSHIP! That’s a slap in the face to the losing team an I doubt a player on the losing team would be happy with that award in that situation!!
@adams641811 күн бұрын
This is the dumbest segment I’ve ever heard, smh
@dakotarussell126310 күн бұрын
Man I love coming back and watching this after the championship 🎉
@whaj04108111 күн бұрын
NBA Finals MVP should be about the winning team period
@RipleyandSwoo11 күн бұрын
Steph had 26.3, 6 and 5 in those finals I believe. He got robbed plain and simple
@dwainfrett538511 күн бұрын
Unfortunately. And then that narrative haunted him almost his entire career after that
@b84__11 күн бұрын
Not at all, should have showed up.. ZERO chance Jordan or Lebron loses finals mvp to a bench player LMAO
@b84__11 күн бұрын
@@dwainfrett5385maybe because for such a "great" player he had ZERO finals mvps through 5 and only got it after the media scripted it from game 1 2022 lol
@dwainfrett538511 күн бұрын
@@b84__ LeBron almost “lost” finals mvp in 2011 when his teammate Wade outplayed him but he doesn’t know how to fit in so they lost the whole series.
@dwainfrett538511 күн бұрын
@@b84__ maybe LeBron would have had more than 4 out of 10 championships if him and his fans weren’t so caught up in trying to win finals mvp every time
@mihotsause447411 күн бұрын
The goat Hoang bi
@nariousdixon93311 күн бұрын
There was more to that Bucks come back than Giannis going crazy. It was also a great adjustment made by having Holiday guard Chris Paul instead of Middleton. That messed up the suns half court offense and led to a lot of fastbreak opportunities for the Bucks. It's hard to see any serious adjustments like that in this series.
@SWIZZ_E11 күн бұрын
Lmao!! After Andre came in Lebron was doing his thing but they were getting whipped
@sh1941311 күн бұрын
I think you cool argue if no one on the team deserves it than it could go to the coach, not the best player on the other team
@dabcityx27311 күн бұрын
Problem with that is the literal name of the award lol it’s “most valuable player” meaning it has to be a player. Lmao
@Icecube8811 күн бұрын
Curry got robbed in his firs finals for MVP. They gave it to Iggy for doing a terrible job defending LeBron and hitting open wide 3s.
@timmartin241711 күн бұрын
It’s just nicks new lebron
@jgould3011 күн бұрын
You lost, then your "value" wasn't as great as at least ONE player on the actual WINNING team. Your VALUE is based on WINNING. Not based on best stats.
@cashca1hinton33811 күн бұрын
Nick want Dallas to win so bad. Stop it dude 🤣🤣
@yessounds197311 күн бұрын
If MVP doesn't mean Most Valuable Player, then call it something else. But if the best player in the series happens to be on the losing team, give him the award.
@DavidThomas-dy3kq11 күн бұрын
Bron has the biggest choke job in the finals in 2011 Dirk Mavs was not even favorite to win plus Dirk and an old Jason Kidd beat Bron Wade Bosh big 3 Heat🤨
@senchodaroola1of111 күн бұрын
LeBron is light years better than Luca, so that doesn’t matter
@MEanPenguin90811 күн бұрын
Who cares?
@Taxthechurch11 күн бұрын
It’s crazy to me that Bron one literal bad playoff series is all people talk about. Shows you how great he is
@derrick538011 күн бұрын
If your team loses you were not valuable. They could replace Luka with me and the result would be the same, W for celtics
@twizzy585ful11 күн бұрын
So Jordan wasn't valuable when he was losing to better teams ??
@derrick538011 күн бұрын
@@twizzy585ful no he lost. Where was the value? They could've lost with him on the bench
@twizzy585ful11 күн бұрын
@@derrick5380 that's bs...his value is without him they don't even make the playoffs...the other team was just better.. this is why you don't associate team success with individual success
@derrick538011 күн бұрын
@@twizzy585ful you just proved my point. "Without him they don't make the playoffs". How did they make the playoffs? By winning. So the value is in how you contribute to winning. I didn't say he wasn't valuable in their road to the playoffs but that's not what this award is about. I didn't say he wasn't valuable in their road to the finals but that's not what this award is about. The award is about your performance in that one series and if the team is going to lose they could've done that if they forfeited all the games. You weren't valuable in that series, not to the team anyway
@inigorodriguez829911 күн бұрын
“It didn’t happen then, therefore it can never happen” is a trash logic. I don’t think Luka should get it because I don’t think he’s been good enough yet but Brou’s logic is absolutely trash.
@lewismoultrie554811 күн бұрын
No chance , He is literally the reason the Mavs are losing. Literally! The last couple of games proved that.
@twizzy585ful11 күн бұрын
He literally the only reason they are there
@lewismoultrie554811 күн бұрын
@@twizzy585ful I thought they had one of the best defenses since the trade deadline?
@twizzy585ful11 күн бұрын
@@lewismoultrie5548 of course but I had to meet ignorance with ignorance...truth is with that trade and no luka they go nowhere, and without the trade we've seen luka take a far superior team to an ECF....all you had to say is he needs to bring more effort on defense on a nightly bases because that's his flaw
@lewismoultrie554811 күн бұрын
@@twizzy585ful That was me taking a shot at all the people saying they were down 3-0 because of kyrie... GAME 3 kyrie goes off for 35 and they still found them selves down 20+. GAME 4 Kyrie only has to score 21 which is close to what he's averaging in the series and they blow the Celtics out.
@lewismoultrie554811 күн бұрын
@@twizzy585ful Is he even gonna scratch 20pts tonight
@titvngaming769311 күн бұрын
I’m ganna do what I can to support u brother. Screw ftf posting quick now. It was only done because of you sir.
@Ritchierozay11 күн бұрын
Stop advocating for giving losing trophies!!
@isaacwright936211 күн бұрын
Man i love wilde give the SB mvp to hurts the way to stick it to nick wrong
@Big_Krone11 күн бұрын
After LBJ lost it while leading BOTH teams in EVERY major category and lost it to Iggy who played good defense (held lebron to a near 35 pt triple double avg) no one on the other team should ever get it.
@asare24011 күн бұрын
If luka were averaging like 40 he might have a case, but 29? Not close to amazing enough to win FMVP on a losing team.
@titvngaming769311 күн бұрын
Goat
@zzeidan111 күн бұрын
Team performance/accomplishments should not dictate individual awards. That’s how Rudy Gobert got his DPOY awards when he’s clearly not the best defensive player in the league.
@francismoritz113211 күн бұрын
Ron hextal looked like he wanted to throw the mvp trophy in the trash
@D2RGGBuilds11 күн бұрын
Luka does that in elimination games, plus this is the best team around so far. Mavs can win 3 straight from this point on. Don't be mistaken
@grichkatayou755811 күн бұрын
WHERE IS THE VALUE IN LOOSING A FINALS ?? IF you wre the most valuable you'd WIN
@manveergill753910 күн бұрын
🫡🔥💭🥂🏆🔥✅🙏🏻
@davidmackenzie989911 күн бұрын
The mental gymnastics you have to go through to believe that the Mavs have a chance. In one the next 3 games, the Cs will roll off a 12 3 points 45 point quarter and that will be all she wrote.
@ohsosantana9311 күн бұрын
Wildes Hurts comment holds no weight either
@lukacalov198811 күн бұрын
At BEST Luka is playing 30% worse than Jokic last year for example So hell no He aint even that great considering his usg rate these numbers are average and if you include eye test its also nothing special
@b84__11 күн бұрын
Is it the Finals Most Valuable Player? Or Chosen Player on Winning Team? Lol cut and dry, if MVP isn't for most valuable then rename it..
@MEanPenguin90811 күн бұрын
Can't be the most valuable if you can't win is the argument which is a valid take. How valuable were you if you lost?
@-hunt-622510 күн бұрын
Pretty simple Boston is a super team where one of their two stars can not show up at all and they easily win lol. Basically the 2018 Warriors
@Koonce156 күн бұрын
Hearing bru swallow maybe me cringe lol
@sheldonanderson18911 күн бұрын
How can you be Finals MVP if your best efforts didn't win the series?
@johnlamprecht752311 күн бұрын
Steve Nash?
@AliMohamed-yq4wn11 күн бұрын
Steph was the best player in the 2015 finals
@SMLEFGFJB11 күн бұрын
Opposing losing player could average a quadruple double for 7 games, and still not be the mvp. I'm with Brou.. you have to be in the winning team.
@CBrown11 күн бұрын
I'm with 99% Nick but going to Game 6+ has to be *because* of Luka. He can't just average 30 in a win. That's a team effort despite his stats. I need to have him drop like 50 and be competent defensively. You lose a series but put up an effort like that in Game 5 then yeah, you were the reason why Game 6 even happened. You just put up 30, have the same kind of mediocre defense, and still rely on your team so heavily but ultimately lose the series you're not the most valuable player. That goes to Jaylen because he's done so well both ways and so consistently.
@reggiej616311 күн бұрын
Luka takes and ass of shots field g..at 47 percent 29 average but he has no defence..
@Wicky95211 күн бұрын
Ant is a beast the rest is poo poo...STRAIGHT UP
@user-vo7pv9zp4v10 күн бұрын
Nick has been having the worst takes recently
@josesoto748011 күн бұрын
Hahaha Cs in 5
@gilbertmyles205211 күн бұрын
Lol no chance
@leekautz292611 күн бұрын
The losing team should never get the mvp. Joke.
@dwannthomas954311 күн бұрын
ita not going to happen
@motherlodebassin536911 күн бұрын
Curry was better in 2015 curry was changing the dang game brou been slipping lately
@stevenhowell646811 күн бұрын
Nick is a narcissist.
@GeordieHalma11 күн бұрын
First?
@motherlodebassin536911 күн бұрын
No one on the Celtics is worthy of a fmvp. Luka best player in the series by a lot
@zclan413011 күн бұрын
Clown take and I’m rooting for the mavs.
@hereitisagain488011 күн бұрын
The Mavs will win tonight. The Mavs will win game 6. Game seven, can't wait. The logic that Lebron should have won the MVP and because he didn't, we can't be sensible and give it the guy who deserves it, forevermore , because poor Lebron got skipped once. That perspective is asinine and frankly complexion influenced.
@dnice877511 күн бұрын
Lol it's over to tonight buddy
@stevey29711 күн бұрын
Don’t Go come back bumm 🤣🤣
@D00MTR3311 күн бұрын
Well...
@maddawg816410 күн бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@PrincePeterOFC11 күн бұрын
Their is no case for it. If LeBron didn’t get it in 2015 there is no case for any player. Nick is just trying to discredit Tatum
@jctslice11 күн бұрын
LeBron averaged 10pts higher than the 2nd highest scorer. He was THAT much better than everyone else, so yeah
@hec467211 күн бұрын
Lebron shot under 40% in that series
@Brojas319011 күн бұрын
The only person discrediting Tatum is Tatum himself. Dude has not been good for someone who is considered a “superstar”
@makaveli121611 күн бұрын
Bron blew a 2-1 lead and shot 38% in 2015 finals
@DestroyerOff11 күн бұрын
@@makaveli1216bron? You sure it wasn’t his G-League team? His stats were monstrous, his team was just happy to be there.