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FIRST TIME REACTING TO Stromae - L’enfer (Official Music Video) !!

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CAMILLE

CAMILLE

Күн бұрын

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@Its_just_luca
@Its_just_luca 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like he is fighting against his own mind. He tries to fight against his own thoughts of sadness. The song the video is just so amazing ! What an artist
@glitrcamille
@glitrcamille 2 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with your comment! It's like he's stuck inside his mind and can't find a way out of his loneliness, suicidal thoughts, and overall depression. It's a very sad concept but he portrayed it beautifully within the lyrics and imagery of the music video. Sending love!💓💓
@evansmattsk7841
@evansmattsk7841 2 жыл бұрын
Here’s a live performance video with English subtitles ☺️ kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Y7J0qbxytrzbe2Q.html Stromae is a Genius in my opinion!!
@Its_just_luca
@Its_just_luca 2 жыл бұрын
@@evansmattsk7841 don’t need it haha. I’m from Belgium so i know the language. 👍
@Mimeniia
@Mimeniia 2 жыл бұрын
The mind, soul, so complicated in relation to the avatar (brain). How many of me is there?
@stephanevilboux1706
@stephanevilboux1706 2 жыл бұрын
I Said exactly wath you Said. Are you speaking French ? I do. You are rigth at 200pc.
@baranhazar4674
@baranhazar4674 Жыл бұрын
He literally showed how anxiety feels like, those rapid eye movements, trying to breathe but feeling like you can’t, hitting your head for the thoughts to disappear. He showed everything. It’s a work of art!
@ecaterinasilisteanu5740
@ecaterinasilisteanu5740 2 жыл бұрын
Stromae is literally a musical genius.
@invock
@invock 2 жыл бұрын
The last verse talks about the f*cking loop in which you find yourself when you go through depression. You think a lot about yourself, you despise yourself, you want to beat yourself up to get back on track... you don't know what to do with yourself. And in the end thinking so much becomes a major problem, as every new thought brings a new reason to hate yourself. "Thinking a lot, that's actually the problem with you."
@drakonisasmrtist9471
@drakonisasmrtist9471 2 жыл бұрын
And then the video ends where it started, focused on his eye, and the cycle repeats.
@MadailinBurnhope
@MadailinBurnhope Жыл бұрын
I found Stromae like two weeks ago and I've listened to nothing else since; this song was my favourite of his songs immediately; I had a strong emotional reaction to it (I cried) and I hardly know any French
@Jackandwhite1
@Jackandwhite1 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, I am belgian just like Stromae ("Maestro" reversed for the record) and you just got everything right about how he feels and especially at the end he's in deed talking to himself like : "Why are you thinking so much, why can't you let go?" It's easier to understand in French of course (because Belgium 🇧🇪 is a country with different languages and Stromae is from the French speaking part) but yeah you nailed it I really enjoyed your reaction you seem to understand music from a technical point of view and it's very nice to see (Many people get confused with Stromae style because he so unique and not always easy to understand completely) Anyway, keep going, I'll watch other reactions of yours! :)
@JCX-9
@JCX-9 2 жыл бұрын
Stromae is absolutely my favorite artist. Even though i don’t speak French i get him, he touches my heart, my soul. I play his songs in a loop. Even when the lyrics are sad he still raises my vibrations. I love everything about him. So glad he put on some weight he looks so much better now.
@HaydenNK3
@HaydenNK3 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't know you before, I've just discovered this channel but I gotta say I really enjoyed your reaction. The fact that you pause the video to do your commentary is very appreciated too. I really like hearing your thought and the personal experience you talked about. It was a great reaction ! I hope you'll do more from Stromae or other French speaker artists ^^ That's +1 sub for you Cheers from Belgium ✌
@glitrcamille
@glitrcamille 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for your kind words! I really appreciate it💓💓 I'm looking forward to reacting to more French speaking artists soon. If you're currently looking for other reactions to music in French or partly in French, I have a few on my channel such as Santé, Kassav, and Nzoto. Sending love from California!!🥰
@hansotten6901
@hansotten6901 2 жыл бұрын
Great reaction video. I think you were on the right track about that last passage ‘I don’t know what to do you with you’: he’s not talking to or about his thoughts, but to and about himself, who’s always (over)thinking things. It’s kind of a downward spiral.
@glitrcamille
@glitrcamille 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your comment! That makes a lot of sense. When you reference Stromae's downward spiral of overthinking, I noticed that it relates to a book called "Turtles All the Way Down" by John Green. Here's a quote from the main character who deals with OCD and chronic anxiety. “Actually, the problem is that I can’t lose my mind,” I said. “It’s inescapable.” I also really like how Stromae uses the imagery in the music video to match the lyrics: "You know, I’ve been thinking a lot, I really don’t know what to do with you. Thinking a lot, That’s actually the problem with you." When the camera zooms out to show the size of the room (his mind) while he sings these lyrics, it gives the impression that the "true Stromae" is completely overwhelmed by his thoughts. Sorry for this super long comment🤣 "L'enfer is just so deep and meaningful. Sending love!!💓💓
@valentinallee1031
@valentinallee1031 2 жыл бұрын
In my interpretation he's talking to his suicide thought, like he personified them.
@josselinbannelier92
@josselinbannelier92 11 ай бұрын
Hello CAMILLE. Just to tell you, as a french people, you literally understood all implied meanings into this song. Glad to see that some french music can resonate into people, enough if they are thousands miles away. You seem natural, sincere and humble in your videos so keep going. We need more of this than overplayed contents. ❤ for you and wish you the best.
@FloraAshley
@FloraAshley 2 жыл бұрын
The anti malarial drug Lariam was given to him on the African part of his Racine Carrée tour. Unfortunately, its side effects cause suicidal thoughts, anxiety and severe depression. That and years of overworking himself, as the perfectionist he is, was a huge problem and he credits his brother, Luc, with saving his life because he realized something was terribly wrong with him and stopped the tour, except for the Kigali concerts in Rwanda. They were postponed and were the last performances he did.
@JCX-9
@JCX-9 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this information as i didn’t know what happened to him. So glad he got better. He looked so skinny before and kind of unhealthy. But he looks awesome now. So glad he recuperated.
@zuenna7421
@zuenna7421 2 жыл бұрын
Great reaction :) i like how u go in depth about the lyrics and not just nod ur head and say ''that was nice'' at the end of the vid like a lot of other reactors do. btw your eyes are beautiful
@glitrcamille
@glitrcamille 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the compliments! I really appreciate it💓💓 I love to give my best try at analyzing songs/music videos on my first listen🥰
@suzannapersad
@suzannapersad 2 жыл бұрын
/// this song .. I am obsessed... he is the artist for our times... love your reactions..
@chloetremortherapy
@chloetremortherapy 6 ай бұрын
LOVED your reaction. You're very intelligent and seem to have a very developed eye for art & more specifically videography.
@neobrand1845
@neobrand1845 2 жыл бұрын
It's refreshing to see a young person like yourself being so eloquent, most reaction videos make me doubt that sane people do KZfaq videos. But you did an excellent job. Keep on rocking!
@jens2049
@jens2049 2 жыл бұрын
Really great reaction and insight. You seem honest and genuine which what I search for in reaction videos like these.
@0Blasteee
@0Blasteee 2 жыл бұрын
STROMAE = MAESTRO From Belguim and sing and frensh, 7years stop and go now ENFIN !! Apres 7 ans d'attente enfin son retour , juste Merci
@Etoile-reveuse
@Etoile-reveuse 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, congratulations on your reaction. I think you interpreted and understood very well. You really analyze the sound with the lyrics and not just the rhythmics in general and I find that super appreciable ! If you want I advise you to listening to Loïc Nottet who is also a very talented Belgian like Stromae. (I don’t know if you already know him) His music “Mr/Mme” is in French (with English subtitles) and is also very deep, sad, but beautiful ! or “Million eyes” which is also beautiful in lyrics, singing and dancing ! There are really great talents in Belgium ♡ Have a good day !
@felipeaquitral
@felipeaquitral 2 ай бұрын
i'm super late to this so idk if you're even going to read this lol but i think that in the part that you got confused (7:44) Stromae is talking to himself, it's like what he would say to himself (i don't know how to explain it, i'm not native english speaker :c). so he says "hey, i've been thinking a lot and i don't know what to do with you" (he doesn't know what to do with himself), but then "actually the problem with you is that you're thinking a lot" (and here he's like responding to himself, as if he was two ppl inside of one person having a actual conversation). imo basically during the whole song he's talking about the contradicting thoughts that one has when dealing with unaliving thoughts and other mental health issues. that you _think_ you've been thinking about the problem, but sometimes thinking too much about the problem is a problem in itself, because it doesn't stop and most times you get nowhere. he says this again in the "subscription to the Guilt Trip Channel" and "sometimes you should take your mind off it, not too much though" lines, he's basically stuck in this guilt mindset, which is bad, but also that "loop" of thoughts he's stuck in ironically _help him_ not to think about other things too much. i know Stromae has been dealing with anxiety and panic attacks caused by a medicine used to prevent malaria since like 2015 and i can't talk for him, but i've been dealing with mental health issues too (i have panic disorder and depression since forever) and personally i think this song and video are genius. especially the moments when he's angry and punching the air, to me that represents the feeling of frustration with yourself because of your own thoughts and feeling like you're "punching the air" or "fighting with the ocean", like all the things you do are ultimately pointless and meaningless, because you're fighting with yourself and you're in a loop that it's very hard to abandon, so any cry for help or like the "snap out of it!" you scream to yourself fall on deaf ears. i think this allegory and nod to that feeling is further reinforced when we find out that Stromae was inside his mind all along, the video is a loop that never stops. it ends with his eye, the same way the video starts. also, the part when that heavy beat drops for the first time and they use slo-mo i'm pretty sure Stromae is representing a panic attack: rapid eye movements, raised heart rate, chest pain, head pain, trying to stop thinking about it, etc. it's a pretty dark and sad video/song. but it's sooo good. maybe my fav from Multitude. great reaction! and sorry for the long comment (it's a bit hard to explain in english so i always end up writing essays lol)
@svenpedersen9140
@svenpedersen9140 Жыл бұрын
Nice reaction ! He is a genius. A lot of american rapers took some of his beats like kanye west (and he think he is almost god but still look up to Stromae) and others. He is just good. Stromae means Maestro backwards.
@VerbumAngeli
@VerbumAngeli 27 күн бұрын
very good interpretation of the lyrics. ❤
@berathaxhiu7326
@berathaxhiu7326 2 жыл бұрын
I really liked this reaction, if you're into deep artists, I would recommend an artist called NF, he's a rapper, but he isn't a typical modern rapper, he mostly talks about anxiety, depression, fear, self-hatred etc. A good start would be The Search, that song is what got most people to love him, including me. Other songs that you can react to after The Search are Leave me alone (the sequel of the search), Why, Lost (ft Hopsin), Mansion and after Mansion Intro III. If you do reactions to him, the NF fanbase will all come to your channel because we love his music.
@la_famille__
@la_famille__ 2 жыл бұрын
Hi I think you got it right for the part where he says : "I don't know what to do with you", one of the theme here is loneliness so I think that he's indeed speaking to himself, the clip is actually just showing that with this empty room in his head where he is completely lonely. On top of that, at the begining of the song he says that he is many in his head when in reality, it's just him speaking to himself.
@user-nn8wv6md9b
@user-nn8wv6md9b 2 жыл бұрын
I like this reaction ! 😀
@glitrcamille
@glitrcamille 2 жыл бұрын
thank you!!💓💓
@bigsimmy370
@bigsimmy370 2 жыл бұрын
1:13 i feel it
@nskurai2313
@nskurai2313 2 жыл бұрын
i don't know if my comment will be translat so I m going to try in english . I just discovered you and I really liked your opinion on this video , I suggest you Quand c'est of stromae, if u want of course , thank u for the video ❤
@glitrcamille
@glitrcamille 2 жыл бұрын
thank you for the compliment! Unfortunately I have already seen "Quand c'est?" multiple because I've been a huge fan of Stromae since I was little so I probably won't be able to react to it. But thank you anyways💓💓
@coucoubrandy1079
@coucoubrandy1079 2 жыл бұрын
I'm very surprised that you know about him I love him. This song is just what we feel. I'm glad that he's coming back to himself. But we can feel that he still has that nut to crack. But the song is tremendous. Those having bad thoughts, he helps you. He's still in a healing process but he's a man . I like his hairstyle btw
@Chris-id2hf
@Chris-id2hf 2 жыл бұрын
I thank you don’t get the point au the begining of you reaction… It’’s not about the quarantine, but about his feeling of loneliness and over-perfectionnism after his 2nd album (and his burn out)…. But still. He’s an amazing artist, whether it’s lyrics, music or video clips… So proud to have suce an artist from my country! 🇧🇪❤️
@glitrcamille
@glitrcamille 2 жыл бұрын
Here, let me clarify what I was saying at the beginning of the video. Stromae introduces the concept of how common it is for humans to have depressive thoughts. He says: "Everything I’ve been thinking about, It’s crazy how many people have thought just the same. But even that doesn’t help me feeling less alone" In essence, he is not "alone" in feeling depressed. There are millions of other people around the world who feel depressed. However, even though Stromae knows he is not the only depressed person, it doesn't lessen the pain and struggle of living with depression. In my reaction, I relate this concept to my personal experience of living in quarantine. Millions of people around the world are living in the same conditions as I am but it doesn't lessen the painful emotions I experience such as loneliness and anxiety. I am aware that Stromae is not talking about quarantine and is talking about the negative aspects of being in the public eye. I mention that after 5:36 if you would like to see ;) I simply wanted to provide a personal anecdote in my reaction. Hopefully that makes sense🥰💓 I apologize if I didn't clarify myself well and I also apologize if my reaction was confusing. Sending Love!! I agree that Stromae is truly a maestro!!
@Its_just_luca
@Its_just_luca 2 жыл бұрын
Best reaction i have seen so far 👍.
@glitrcamille
@glitrcamille 2 жыл бұрын
thank you so much!!
@georger.3489
@georger.3489 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent reaction. Are you going to make movie reactions in the future too? You are intelligent and charismatic, so I think you would do great.
@angel_m94
@angel_m94 2 жыл бұрын
Loved your commentary
@glitrcamille
@glitrcamille 2 жыл бұрын
thank you for the compliment!💓
@pabloesco2007
@pabloesco2007 2 жыл бұрын
Love your reaction and you though about that clip and song.
@glitrcamille
@glitrcamille 2 жыл бұрын
thank you so much!💓
@augustintoisoul6548
@augustintoisoul6548 2 жыл бұрын
I love your réaction :) Stromae also made a song called "santé" a few weeks ago if you are interested. I personally love it
@glitrcamille
@glitrcamille 2 жыл бұрын
thank you for the compliment! 💓💓 I am a huge fan of Stromae and I reacted to Santé when it came out ;) You can check out my reaction on my channel or click on this video link kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r79koa2guM-2hp8.html Sending love!
@augustintoisoul6548
@augustintoisoul6548 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks I'm gona watch this now
@incognito3448
@incognito3448 2 жыл бұрын
Merci j'aime bien
@sundaypie2088
@sundaypie2088 2 жыл бұрын
You gotta react to NF. He is similar to Stromae artistically speaking. Check out his songs Leave me alone, Lost ft Hopsin, Story, Clouds, The Search, Let you down (where his future old self is talking to his younger self), How could you leave us (a song to his mother who died from an overdose when he was 18), etc.
@glitrcamille
@glitrcamille 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the recommendations!!💓
@pbz4994
@pbz4994 2 жыл бұрын
stromae is way way way better than nf
@k_silentstorm9611
@k_silentstorm9611 2 жыл бұрын
@@pbz4994 cap
@pbz4994
@pbz4994 2 жыл бұрын
@@k_silentstorm9611 first you're comparing a rapper to a pop artist, and second NF is a corny rapper for white people. Stromae is insanely more talented
@k_silentstorm9611
@k_silentstorm9611 2 жыл бұрын
@@pbz4994 you're entitled to your opinion but saying that NF makes corny music that only white people listen to is a hasty generalization. Just because he's white doesn't mean his entire fan base is white either
@fantasma8253
@fantasma8253 2 жыл бұрын
In the end yes he’s talking about him and his mind and j’agis thoughts. You don’t know what to do with yourself, you’re stuck because despite what anyone tells you, it’s like you can’t see the end of the tunnel it’s so foggy. I know it because I’m there and have been for the past few years
@glitrcamille
@glitrcamille 2 жыл бұрын
wow, thank you for your explanation! you described the message of the song beautifully. I wish you all the best in life. Sending love💓💓💓
@kabiirdripflixmusic5482
@kabiirdripflixmusic5482 2 жыл бұрын
React to Dax- Dear God. Please! Amazing reaction !
@glitrcamille
@glitrcamille 2 жыл бұрын
thank you for the recommendation, I really appreciate it!💓
@pbz4994
@pbz4994 2 жыл бұрын
not Dax lmao 💀💀💀
@frm5317
@frm5317 2 жыл бұрын
Actually the chorus in the song just consists of the "yah-yah" voices, quite weird but original
@evansmattsk7841
@evansmattsk7841 2 жыл бұрын
Here’s a live performance video with English subtitles ☺️ kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Y7J0qbxytrzbe2Q.html Stromae is a Genius in my opinion!!
@jl-k_suke9792
@jl-k_suke9792 2 жыл бұрын
elle parle bcp macha'Allah
@lyssao.8308
@lyssao.8308 2 жыл бұрын
usually he sings about the struggles if others, as odd as it ssems.
@Hobbitli97
@Hobbitli97 2 жыл бұрын
loved the reaction. more stromae please :)tour les meme((stereotypical) gender roles(critical)) papaoutai(relationship with his father)quad c'est(cancer)ta fete(don't remember)Carmen(social media) and he worked with billie eolith on her music video for the song Hostage
@Hobbitli97
@Hobbitli97 2 жыл бұрын
billie eilish
@glitrcamille
@glitrcamille 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for your comment! Unfortunately, I've been listening to all these songs that you mentioned since they came out because I am a huge fan of Stromae 🥰 so I will not be filming a reaction to them. However, I do have a reaction to Santé on my channel kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r79koa2guM-2hp8.html and I will certainly be following his upcoming music releases. I hope you understand🥺 Sending love!💓💓
@squarecircle1473
@squarecircle1473 2 жыл бұрын
At one point (1:30) you say "...not that they [the songs] are not happy, but they have a deep meaning behind them". It almost sounds as if you want to excuse yourself for implying a song was "not happy". It's perfectly okay to say a song is not happy - it does not take away from the quality. And certainly in arts, it is about expressing what is true to oneself. That truth simply cannot *always* be happy in nature, so neither can art always be happy. And it's okay to say that.
@glitrcamille
@glitrcamille 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, I want to clear up what I said at 1:30. I was addressing Stromae's entire discography, not just "L'enfer." Here's the full quote: "He always has a way with lyrics, it's been a signature of his from the start. It seems like all of his songs, even if they sound happy...not that they're not happy, but they have a deep meaning." When I said that at 1:30, I was coming from the perspective of an English speaker. I cannot understand the words Stromae is singing so songs like "Papaoutai" could fool me into thinking they are lighthearted if I don't look at the translations. I said this at 1:30 because I wanted to vocalize the general characteristics of Stromae's discography before I proceded with my analysis of this particular song. At that time, I'd only heard 45 seconds of the song so I didn't want to be fooled by the nice piano instrumentation and miss the deep meaning of the lyrics (it was my first time hearing the song). I only corrected myself because I don't think that Stromae's discography is "unhappy" in nature. He doesn't go around spreading unhappy messages through his art. Instead, he draws attention to personal struggles and social issues which, in my opinion, creates a positive impact. His songs allow us to discuss, normalize, or change our perception about a topic. I do not think that Stromae's music is "unhappy" music. Rather, it is music with a deep meaning. You are completely correct in saying that the truth cannot always be happy in nature so art cannot always be happy. I just think that you thought I was only talking about "L'enfer" at 1:30 (you can correct me if I'm wrong). At that point, I had not heard even half the song so I had no idea what the song would be like. At 1:30, I only intended for my comment to reference the general characteristics of Stromae's discography so that I made sure to pay attention to the lyrics while I filmed. Hopefully this all makes sense. Feel free to ask me any more questions! Thank you, sending love💓💓
@squarecircle1473
@squarecircle1473 2 жыл бұрын
​@@glitrcamille Hello again, Thank you for taking the time to elaborate on what you said such as to clarify it. I understand what you mean when you explain it, however I would like to respond. (also: please take my comments as an attempt to entertain civil disagreement such as through argumentation reach a point of mutual understanding. My comments are not an attempt to make personal attacks against you, nor attempts to invalidate your position or opinions. English is not my first language so if I come across in this way I hope you will be mindful it was not my intent) Regarding your second paragraph, I quote: _"I only corrected myself because I don't think that Stromae's discography is "unhappy" in nature. He doesn't go around spreading unhappy messages through his art."_ This is, I think, revealing. You use the words "unhappy" twice. *If* you would have said in your original quote that his work is not always happy (without correcting yourself), I never would have taken from that statement that you therefore think it is "unhappy". I think, at times - especially in arts - the words happy and unhappy cease to apply. Now I am thinking of a piece by Shakespeare which covers the topic of death in life and its implications for equality. Never would I ever qualify this piece by Shakespeare as being happy, but it does not mean it is unhappy either. I think it goes for many things: when something manages to touch you, it's very rare one can say it is "happy" or "unhappy". Often, things that truly touch you, they can make you experience emotions of sadness. But this sadness is born in beauty and meaning. Because of it, it ceases to be "sad" and it's not unhappy - and certainly not happy. It has at that point transcended those superficial qualifiers. This, I suppose, forms the crux of my argument. You can say its not happy, and that it has a deep meaning. And it doesn't mean that therefore it's unhappy. To think that way would be too binary, and sets you up for a false dichotomy. This is why I said that its okay to say something is not happy. In fact, sometimes, something "not being happy" (nor "unhappy") is precisely the compliment an artwork deserves. I of course understand your point about how it sounds to a non-French speaker. I am also not a French speaker. To respond to your point: I generally don't agree that his entire discography warrants that correction. I think too many of his musical pieces touch upon realities of the human condition that most people don't want to articulate precisely because it is uncomfortable. Most of his works touch you in an artistic way precisely because they refuse to be bound by what a happy song allows. This is also what sets him apart (in my opinion) and what sets all great artists apart. So I disagree that his general discography warrants that correction (assuming of course you knew the lyrics of his songs at the time you made the correction, which I think you did). But of course, we should not debate matters of opinion and I respect your opinion in disagreement. I do wonder (and now I am brainstorming to another topic which is somewhat but not entirely related) to what extent cultural differences between us play a part in this discussion. When I hear US-citizens speak, I often get the sense that things "have" to be happy and good. Otherwise things are bad. This is a very generalized statement, I admit, but I will give you an example to illustrate where I'm going with this: I live in the Netherlands. When a person here (including a stranger) asks you "hey, how are you doing?", you are expected to reply truthfully and the one asking is expected to listen. It's a genuine question, and heard often. So if you are not doing good, you would say to the person that you are not doing good for x and y reasons and the person asking would listen to you why you are not doing good. When I listen to US-citizens who moved here, they say this is a very unusual thing for them. Because, so they say, in the USA when people ask how you are doing you just say you are doing good and you are in a way expected to say that. I find this to be very curious, because it essentially means people are always (expected to be) saying they are doing good when presenting themselves to the outside world. I would assume that, in such an environment, to say you are "not doing good" when asked how you are doing, would be perceived as "weird". - even though, at times it is normal to not do good. I think that is an example of toxic positivity, where one is expected by society to present oneself in positive ways because not being positive is weird and bad - even though it is part of the natural human condition. This may seem like a trivial or even unrelated point, but I don't really think it is. I think these seemingly small lingual differences are reflective of much bigger differences in attitudes to life and culture, which may further lie at the heart of differences in artistic interpretations and discussions such as this. Finally, to close it off: since you like Stromae, I will refer you to an artist Stromae was greatly inspired by. He is a true artist and poet, I think. He is also a Belgian singer, or, rather, a chansonnier ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chansonnier_(singer) ). His name is Jacques Brel, born in 1929 and passed in 1978. Maybe he is not so well known in the USA - I really do not know - but he is a very respected artist. Nina Simone was also a big fan and she even covered one of his pieces in French. I friendly invite you to look at this performance, if only because you may be interested in seeing a person who was one of the big inspirations for an artist you respect. This performance is sung in French but has English subtitles. :) kzfaq.info/get/bejne/p8WSpJieuNrWn4E.html&ab_channel=RandomLectures All my best wishes, and thank you for the conversation! I enjoy it, and please have a pleasant continuation of your day :)
@glitrcamille
@glitrcamille 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for continuing this conversation with me! I hope you don’t take offense to any of this because I am not intending for it to be offensive in any way. I really respect your opinion and I think that you are very eloquent. Hopefully my typos are minimal.💗 After reading your response, I realized something. I think you are differentiating between the words “unhappy” and “not happy.” You are right, of course, that these two words do not mean the exact same thing. “Unhappy” is much more final than “not happy.” Whereas “not happy” could refer to a variety of things beside happiness such as loneliness, sadness, anger, etc. I realized that when I said “not happy” at 1:30, I meant to say “unhappy.” I think this is where our difference in perspective lies. Thank you for drawing my attention to the diction of what I said at 1:30. I won’t make the same mistake again ;) With that point cleared up, I want to go back to what I said at 1:30 to clarify a few other areas. Here is the quote for reference: "He always has a way with lyrics, it's been a signature of his from the start. It seems like all of his songs, even if they sound happy...not that they're not happy, but they have a deep meaning." We both know that that it is not a bad thing when art is “not happy” because it sometimes represents reality. However, some of my other viewers might think that I am criticizing Stromae’s songs if I say they are “not happy.” As I mentioned in my first reply, I do not think that Stromae intends for his music to spread negativity even if the lyrics represent uncomfortable emotions or situations. That’s why I decided to describe Stromae’s songs as having “a deep meaning” because it is a less harsh way of saying that his songs contain a variety of light and dark elements. I do not think that saying his songs have a deep meaning instead implies that they are happy songs. This is why I am slightly confused on why you brought up your view that Americans want things to always be happy and good. I never said that I wanted Stromae’s songs to be happy or good or viewed Stromae’s songs as happy or good songs. If you are just changing the topic, I think there is a very simple explanation: Americans generally value their privacy and they don’t want to infringe upon the privacy of others. If something bad happened in my private life, I would feel uncomfortable opening up to a stranger or acquaintance because I don’t know if I can trust that person. At the same time, I don’t want to trigger them or make them feel like they also are expected to share their private life with me. If something frustrating happened like “my car wouldn’t start and I was late for work,” then people generally share about it instead of saying that they are doing good. However, if I was with my friends and family, then I would be transparent about all of my emotions and experiences. These are people that I can trust. Not to mention that my friends and family know every little detail about my life anyways 🤣 It is also important to note that if someone wanted to get closer with an acquaintance or stranger, then they would slowly share little personal details about themselves in casual conversation. That’s my very abridged breakdown of American social interactions. So culturally, I think that Americans want to keep things lighthearted between acquaintances and strangers especially if they don’t see their relationship developing any further. You call this “toxic positivity.” I call this privacy and safety. To tie the two parts of my response together, I think that my environment could be the reason why I changed my description of Stromae’s songs from “not happy” to having “a deep meaning.” But if this is true, then I am even more glad that I made that clarification. A significant percentage of my viewers are American so I think that this description will appeal to them because it connotes complexity rather than negativity. Not to mention that having “a deep meaning” doesn’t mean that the lyrics solely contain happy messages. In conclusion, having “a deep meaning” is just a nicer/more appealing way of saying “not happy.” I will definitely look into Jacques Brel. I have never heard of him before so thank you for providing me with information about him. Great conversation, this is very entertaining! Have a nice day!🥰🥰
@squarecircle1473
@squarecircle1473 2 жыл бұрын
@@glitrcamille Thank you again for your elaborate response :) I will keep it short as I think we have achieved a middle-ground understanding. Some final comments: You said that at 1:30, when you said "not happy", you meant to say "unhappy". To me, this indeed creates a sentence with an entirely different meaning and one I would agree with. I would end there, but I feel I owe you somewhat of a response to the following: _"I do not think that saying his songs have a deep meaning instead implies that they are happy songs. This is why I am slightly confused on why [...]"_ You are of course correct: saying that something has a deep meaning does not imply something is happy. I was responding to the double negative you used in your language ("...not that they're not happy, but[...]"). So when one says "it is not the case that x is not y" (or: it is the case that x is not not y) it means that x = y. So when you said, "not that they are not happy, but they have a deep meaning" (or, more formally: it is not the case that the songs are not happy, or, it is the case that the songs are not not happy), the double negative ascribes the qualifier "happy" to to "they" (the songs). This is why I thought you said the songs were happy, because it equals "they are happy, but they have a deep meaning". Hope that makes sense. But indeed: I did not say it because you said the songs were of deep meaning. :) With regards to my comments on US-social culture. It was mostly based on anecdotes of US-citizens who moved abroad and who were confronted with a different norm of communication upon moving here, and who generally experienced it as a positive change. I acknowledge however that anecdotes of individuals are not an acceptable foundation for a solid position, which is why it was also more of a brainstorm on my part. The brainstorm was triggered by what I understood to be use of the word happy (or not not happy), and in the brainstorm I just had to think about - what I hear to be - US cultural emphasis on positivity expressions, and I was wondering how this cultural difference plays a part in differences of experiences of an artwork (which is not necessarily addressing "positive" or lighthearted topics) comparatively speaking. But is was mostly a brainstorm. And certainly it was not my intent to generalize, and I acknowledge personal experiential ignorance of US-culture and state-specific cultures. Thank you for explaining your version of US-social culture. :) Of course I understand the concept of safety and privacy in social interactions. Regarding toxic positivity, I do think it is a topic to be taken seriously although the examples I have given may have been wrong. Ah, this was supposed to be a short reply. And I already deleted most of what I originally typed lol😂 In any case, I feel we reached mutual understanding and a middle ground. Thank you for the discussion, I hope you will enjoy Jacques Brel. All my best wishes, and please enjoy the continuation of your day! :)
@SheFooMe
@SheFooMe 2 жыл бұрын
"Réfléchir" in french means to think but also to reflect, as a mirror. Guess he's talking about us, and the social networks, made him want to stop music... This kind of sh*tstorms he took and wansn't ready. We didn't think (réflechir) but we reflected to him he's own worst defaults (réfléchir). Sorry for my english.
@glitrcamille
@glitrcamille 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, thank you so much for your explanation! It's really interesting how you interpreted the double meaning of "réfléchir" and I completely agree with your analysis. It's very difficult to be in the public eye because of the constant public criticisms. Unfortunately, Stromae seems to be reflecting and projecting all of the public criticisms into his personal life which leads to a spiral of negative thoughts and, eventually, to him considering suicide. I hope he is doing better now and receiving therapy. L'enfer truly is a meaningful song! Sending love! (also, your English is good!!)💓💓
@Insxcvble
@Insxcvble 2 жыл бұрын
Can you react to his live on Tv news plz ?
@glitrcamille
@glitrcamille 2 жыл бұрын
thank you for the recommendation!💓💓
@Insxcvble
@Insxcvble 2 жыл бұрын
@@glitrcamille love your reactions 💞💞
@Cultsk8s
@Cultsk8s 2 жыл бұрын
yes, he was off screen for 8 years.... and he was really down.. and had suicide thoughts...
@diido-swagins687
@diido-swagins687 2 жыл бұрын
love youre channel, but the sound sounds like an airco or somthing, its distracting
@guido1111
@guido1111 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry, you pause the song way to much and at the wrong times
@marcellange8579
@marcellange8579 2 жыл бұрын
IT'S A SHAME TO STOP THE SONG, REACT AFTER THE SONG
@glitrcamille
@glitrcamille 2 жыл бұрын
Please watch another channel if you have an issue like this. Thank you💓
@enzodimier4364
@enzodimier4364 2 жыл бұрын
At the end he's -considering- suicide. Just thinking about it, really going about ending your life and accepting it one way or another IS the problem in the first place. Once you start to consider it, you're already done. I think that's what he meant.
@glitrcamille
@glitrcamille 2 жыл бұрын
I love your interpretation/explanation! That makes a lot of sense.
@edmondvalmont1546
@edmondvalmont1546 2 жыл бұрын
Dislike for pausing it at the climax of the song
@qwerty12838
@qwerty12838 Жыл бұрын
Camille МЕН СЕНИ СУЙОМ
@sebastienichtertz8879
@sebastienichtertz8879 2 жыл бұрын
you talk too much
@glitrcamille
@glitrcamille 2 жыл бұрын
okay
@jeanneymar3744
@jeanneymar3744 2 жыл бұрын
Too much cut , unrespect for the artist
@glitrcamille
@glitrcamille 2 жыл бұрын
Please watch another channel if you have an issue like this. Thank you💓
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