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“What does God need with a starship?” is still my favorite quote from the TOS movies.

I'm just gonna say it: that scene of McCoy's pain is nothing short of _gold._

The line "I will die alone", is kind of sad in a meta way, now the other two are gone.

I still think it's crazy that Kirk says he's always known he'll die alone.. And Shatner is the last of the big three left.

I like that Sybok isn’t a villain but an Antagonist, likeable and charismatic but more misguided than evil. And Laurence Luckinbill really gives a great performance.

The “I need my pain!” scene is really excellent: pretty profound message there

The first 1/4 of this film is probably the best. I especially love the irony of the helmsman and Navigator getting lost! 🤣

It's not the best Trek movie. But everyone remembers the bad things when there are still some genuinely good and fun moments in the movie that make it worth a rewatch every now and then.

This film really emphasizes the warmth and more contemporary personalities the TOS crew holds

Spock having a brother was introduced the same way as hi Father, Mother and fiance got introduced, when he had to tell them so in a way it's not really a retco

Dubbing Nichelle Nichols in the fan dance scene was just unforgivable.

I'm convinced Kirk's pain would be having to let Edith Keeler die.

From the TOS episode Whom Gods Destroy Kirk: "They were humanitarians and statesmen, and they had a dream. A dream that became a reality and spread throughout the stars, a dream that made Mr. Spock and me brothers." Garth of Izar: "Mr. Spock, do you consider Captain Kirk and yourself brothers?" Spock: "Captain Kirk speaks somewhat figuratively and with undue emotion. However, what he says is logical and I do, in fact, agree with it."

For it's fault Kirk demanding proof from God is the most Kirk thing ever.

This movie had more scenes with Kirk, Spock, and Bones together than any other. Say what you want, Bill knew to keep the three together.

The unfortunate thing about the scene with Bones is you can’t truly appreciate it until you’ve reached an age where life begins taking from you more than it gives.

The admiral is played by Harve Bennett. Also, the yeoman that took Kirk’s coat is William Shatner’s daughter.

Star Trek 6 is marvelous, and a proper send-off for the original crew!

The only film in the series that focuses on the chemistry between Kirk, Spock, and McCoy. I’m my opinion, that’s the dynamic that elevates Star Trek from generic space adventure to epic franchise.

The actor at the start, the bald desert guy, is the same actor who played Morgan Earp (the one who killed Chekov) in the TOS ep Spectre of the Gun!

Fun fact about this film, Kelley was getting rather fragile at this point and both Nimoy and Shatner were extremely cautious when getting him to run down the mountain during the climax - despite all there worries Deforest Kelley was the fasted one out of all of them.

Nimoy: When I directed ‘Star Trek IV’, I got a magnificent performance out of Bill, because I respected him so much. Shatner: And when I directed ‘Star Trek V’, I got a magnificent performance out of me, because I respected me so much.

No matter what others say, I like this film. 😊👍

There's so much about this film that I genuinely love. It wears its heart on its sleeve, revels in emotion and pathos. I also love that it doesn't end with a ship battle or a fist fight. The antagonist realizes he was wrong, changes his heart, and does something about it. What could be more Trek than that? It has a lot of problems. I'm sure folks will mention that its budget was slashed & it's a shadow of what they planned to do. It's tonally awkward and some scenes really don't work. The Scotty/Uhura thing is so out of nowhere. But I actually really like the movie. I've come around to it over the years, for sure.

Reposted from Patreon: 5. Ever since Final Frontier’s release in 1989, two elements of the film have received universal acclaim from critics and fans. One is the score by composer Jerry Goldsmith, returning to the Star Trek franchise ten years after scoring TMP. Ron Jones had modeled his Klingon theme for TNG after Goldsmith’s from TMP, but in this film Goldsmith was able to bring back the original theme in all its glory. The other acclaimed element of Final Frontier is Laurence Luckinbill’s performance as Sybok. Luckinbill was, in a sense, a member of the Star Trek family even before Final Frontier: he is the son-in-law of Lucille Ball, the comedy legend and Hollywood mogul without whose early support Star Trek would never have existed. He is also the maternal uncle of Lana and Lilly Wachowski, the creators of "The Matrix" franchise. Luckinbill has performed one-man shows in the roles of Theodore Roosevelt, Clarence Darrow, Ernest Hemingway, and Lyndon Baines Johnson. William Shatner happened across a TV version of the Johnson show late one night and squinted at the end credits to see who the actor was; he then offered Luckinbill the role of Sybok. Laurence Luckinbill is still living and is now 89 years old, but, oddly enough, Final Frontier was his final role in a feature film. If this was due to the film’s poor critical reputation, that is a great shame, since viewers generally agree that Luckinbill is one of the best things about it. (See especially the moment when Kirk tells Sybok he is mad, and the flicker of doubt on his face as he says, “Am I?”)

I noticed this time not only did Alex well up, but Josh did too. Gentlemen it was clear you were both glassy eyed. This what this series does to us men, a time honoured testament to the love we have of these 3 characters that no other ST show was able to repeat. TOS is the best.

Watching all of Star Trek in release order is a huge plus for us ST reaction fans.

The actor who played the officer on the view screen telling Kirk about the situation is actually real life producer Harve Bennett who produced "The Wrath of Khan" and other Star Trek movies.

Star trek V is the most TOS episode feel to the movies, it really feels like just another day aboard the Enterprise. It doesn't have a strong villain and I'd say the last act is where it all falls down. A stronger finish would have saved this film. I don't think it's as bad as many do but it is lacking in a few areas.

I figured you guys would enjoy this one. It's nowhere near as bad as some fans make out.

You guys are going to love Star Trek 6, Also the greatest line ever "What Does god need with a Starship?" The bigest compliant people have with this movie is the Special effects.

That opening theme by Jerry Goldsmith is beautiful. One of my favorite tracks from my favorite composer.

I heard the negative reactions to this film and skipped seeing it in a theater. Months later, a coworker and I were on a business trip and caught it on our hotel room's cable. We both had the same reaction: "That wasn't bad. It wasn't as good as the other Star Trek movies, but it was far from bad." Our low expectations and seeing it for free probably helped.

This movie has a lot of heart warming scenes with the big three and Scotty in particular. That's why I like it quite a lot. On the downside several scenes feel like trying to turn the movie into Star Wars, whereas I like my Star Trek to stay true to itself. There is no need for Star Trek to try and become a Star Wars imitation.

The bar from Star Wars, a random desert prophet from Dune and carrier operations from Top Gun walk into the center of the galaxy.

Reposted from Patreon: 8. The Earth space probe which Captain Klaa destroys is not a Voyager, but Pioneer 10, one of the predecessors of the Voyagers, which NASA launched in 1972 to visit Jupiter. The scene in which Kirk returns to the bridge of the Enterprise after leaving Earth features two notable cameos. Shatner’s daughter, Melanie Shatner, plays the yeoman who takes Kirk’s jacket from him; in a joke too subtle for most viewers to catch, she spends the rest of the scene wandering around the bridge with it, since there is nowhere on the bridge to hang it up. “Bob,” the admiral who informs Kirk of the Enterprise’s assignment, is Harve Bennett making a cameo in what would prove to be the last Star Trek film he produced. As one would expect, Nichelle Nichols originally did her own singing in the fan dance scene; she was outraged when another performer redubbed her vocals. Loughery originally proposed this scene as a joke; it went on to become the scene out of all thirteen Star Trek films which fans hate the most. Because Final Frontier was filming simultaneously with TNG Season 2, there was a shortage of Klingon boots for the holographic Klingons at Worf’s Rite of Ascension ceremony in “The Icarus Factor,” forcing some of the actors to wear "Planet of the Apes" boots. (This was the anecdote to which I alluded by including the phrase “[SPOILER REDACTED]” in my comment on that episode; I did not want to give away that Final Frontier features Klingons.) Wil Wheaton snuck onto the movie set from the TNG stages; Shatner was rude to him but later apologized. The problem with the deck numbering in the turboshaft sequence is one of the most widely ridiculed continuity errors in all of Star Trek. Unlike most such errors, it is immediately, glaringly apparent even to a casual viewer, giving an unpleasant impression of sloppiness. The “joke” of Scotty banging his head into the bulkhead is reprehensible.

During the turboshaft scene, look behind Spock as he's flying down. You will see the shadow of the arm holding him up from behind, traveling along the thick black groove in the wall. Once you see it, you cannot unsee it :P

I like the six TOS movies as a fun little miniseries of feature-length episodes. Number 5 is that fun episode that's kind of nuts.

Another great drop by TA. Thanks. By the way, since 1980, Lawrence Luckinbill is married to Lucie Arnaz, Lucille & Desi's daughter.

It's nice to see you guys appreciate Star Trek V, it's my favorite.

I call this movie “Are you there, God? It’s Me, Sybok.”

The reason Kirk yells "SHOOT HIM!" is because the homemade weapon has no stun setting. Your only options are "shoot" or "don't shoot." Unfortunately, the dialog doesn't really make that clear.

As far as I remember, originally the "pain" scene would have ended with Spock and McCoy genuinely joining up with Sybok. It would've resulted in Kirk standing all alone, betrayed by everybody. Leonard Nimoy and DeForest Kelley strongly protested, resulting in the change to the scene and, presumably, the finale on Sha Ka Ree.

I'm right there with you on this movie. We get to spend time with these characters, this is a gift. That said, it was a disappointment when it was released in 1989. I read the novelization of the movie a week before and it had lots of little details that filled in the story in a satisfying way. I recommend reading it to anyone who wants a better version of this story. Your reaction to Kirk calling Spock his brother was priceless. You two are brothers too.

Star Trek V is far better than people claim it is; this is not because all the criticism given to it are not justified, just the story itself is far better than what Paramount allowed to be realized. This is one where reading the novelization before seeing the films helps in appreciating the film.

The scene where Uhura contacts Sulu and Chekov down on the surface of Earth had a very strange effect on me when I first saw it. Cell phones were just starting to be more common place and watching her literally reach out and contact Sulu and Chekov no matter where there were on the planet, just blew my mind now that such technology was literally right around the corner. It never occurred to me in all the years of watching Star Trek just how much the communicator was going to change our world once it finally became a reality. For the first time I was able envision just how that little device was going to alter our world.

Before she was an actress, she was a professional singer and dancer.

26:00 yes. Deck 64…. As a 14 yr old geek watching this in the cinema in 1989 and knowing the Enterprise had about 20 decks, this killed me. And the deck numbers increased as they went up. I’ve since lost my virginity. YOU LOVED IT!!!!! Yes trek v needs more love and I love you guys for loving it

I 100% stand by the assertion that Star Trek V is NOT the worst of the TOS films. That title goes to The Motion Picture. I can at least watch FF and have fun laughing with/at it. It’s at least enjoyable in some of the choices. MP? I fall asleep and when I wake up, nothing happened. Is FF as good as II - IV? No, but I do enjoy watching it. However, I am STOKED to see your reaction to Undiscovered Country. THAT is an under-appreciated gem of a film!

I've been waiting for this one, and you guys did NOT disappoint! Seeing you guys enjoy the character moments was so fun, this is the one Tos film that feels the closest to the original show. And that scene with Bones's pain was one of the best scenes in all the films! 😊

Always maintained this is the best “Star Trek” film, as it perfectly captures the magic of TOS. Sure the others stand out for different reasons, perhaps are ‘better films’ , but they’re directed and budgeted for a mass audience, so tended towards conflict with evil villains etc..

Spock has 3 ears. The right, the left and the final front ear.

For 6 degrees of separation (or a lot less), Sybok is played by Laurence Luckinbill, son-in-law of Lucille Ball, who is the reason TOS was given a second chance after the failed pilot. She is credited as the one (among her own talents as actress/comedienne/producer), but for her, the phenom Star Trek became wouldn't exist. She was the "Lu" of Desilu Productions. I always wished Martin Landau could have played Sybok (not that it was ever considered, just my own preference). I would have loved to see him and Nimoy on screen together and he wouldn't have had to play emotionless (his reason for turning down the Spock role).

One of shatner's daughters makes a cameo appearance during the bridge scene where they are ordered to go to Nimbus III. She's the yomen who hands Kirk his jacket. Despite this movie's flaws, I do appreciate and like how they tackle the subject of life and death and faith and pain and how they are all connected. They help shape us as individuals and our identity. As Kirk says "the things we carry with us makes us who we are. I don't want my pain taken away! I need my pain!"

In addition to just being enjoyable, this one really fits into its place in canon well, as a connector between IV and VI. The characters seem like they are in a planned piece of episodic storytelling leading to VI.

I don't get the hate towards this one. It's just fun. It's our TOS crew with a fun story. Good fun, good jokes, good action, good acting, good script. Maybe it's not amazing, it doesn't give us something new or outside-the-envelope, but hey, it's fun! :) The campfire scenes are my favourite :)

I love seeing these guys react to old star trek.

This one has a lot of interaction scenes with the 7 characters we all grown to love. In the 1980s there was a growth of tv evangelists and they were under pressure to pay the tv bills and all the fallout back then. This gave Shatner the.ideas for the movie.🎉

I once walked up (not climbed ) a Mountain while listening to the Jerry Goldsmith score of the Yosemite and Shakare parts of the score. Whatever you think about the movie, this is one of Goldsmiths best scores.

I think it was real Spock in Wrath of Khan The Federation and the Klingons had a treaty at Organia (TOS) - but it sort created a cold war.

Well, it sure beats Space Irish v Clones.

I love how fun this one is and how much we see them just being friends.

OMG, Nimoy and Deforest Kelly are gone, that makes Kirk saying "I'll die alone" hit hard.

The campfire scene is one of the best scenes with the Big Three.

I would have loved an entire movie of just the original series crew camping. Cut back and forth between their comedic adventures. Just an entire two hours of character and world building between people we've seen at that point for 20 years. Will Sulu and Chekhov find their way out of the forest? Will Uhura and Scotty find romance at Yellowstone? Can Kirk find something taller to climb? Will Bones get more drunk or more angry? Will Spock learn how to sing? There's your movie!!

All I can say about this movie is that our heroes willingly participate in a mutiny. It's not mind control, they make that clear in the movie. There are plenty of bad ST movies, but this is the only one that I genuinely find to be offensive. And if that sounds overly dramatic, I'm not alone. Both Kelley and Nimoy originally refused to be in the movie because their characters were supposed to be mutineers as well, and only signed on after Shatner agreed to change that part of script. The other regulars, unfortunately, were not so lucky.

What does God need with a starship?

@13:50 Bit of cool trivia for you, the yeoman handing Captain Kirk his jacket is actually Shatner's real life daughter in uniform!

Shatner wanted to do a story about televangelists, which makes it a fairly heavy theme. The studio was nervous and insisted humor be added (a la Voyage Home) which is why the film has a weird schizo nature. Positives: * Sybok was so charismatic and convincing, I started to believe him when Kirk did. * Sybok is played very well * I even bought Sybok being Spock's brother * Bones' heart breaking memory * A few other scenes and some gags worked. Kirk's "i need my pain" was good * The reveal the Klingon ship was coming was played perfectly. Negatives: * Sybok, a very good character, promptly unalived * The story set up stakes that couldn't be met * Many gags were terrible. Scotty whacking his head wasn't funny because the actor is obviously getting older here * Minor, but almost everybody misses the "marshmallow"/"marshmallow mellon" gag * The Enterprise A being flakey. "Hahaha". That was done in TMP already and the "humor" here is lousy * The three hostages had a lot of character development in the first act then were all but forgotten There's a lot of cringe and disappointment here, but there's more good than bad. And in my head canon, Sybok somehow survived. Of the five Trek movies at this point, I think it's certainly weakest. Of all Trek movies, this isn't even close to the worst.

The only thing I ever remember from this movie is the marshmallow dispenser available from Kraft. It didn’t work that well, but it was exciting to get something like that in the mail at the time.

"I've always known, I will die alone" Hits different now indeed 🎥 🖖🏻 💓

Not going to lie, unironically, this is my favorite of the Star Trek films, knowing all the B.S. that happened between the writers strikes that derailed pre-production and the teamsters strike that happened during filming, along with Paramount slicing the budget during production because they crapped the bed with a bunch of films in 1987 and 1988 helps gives this film its charm. I also highly encourage that you seek out the comic book adaption which was based on the shooting script

I’m pretty sure Kirk’s pain is letting Edith Keeler die.

Rex Holman was the first guy that Sybok encountered in the beginning on Nimbus III he also played Morgan Earp in "Spectre of the Gun".

That was Harve Bennett playing the Admiral that orders Kirk to Nimbus 3

God I had to stop the reaction to post how great it is to see someone online genuinely enjoying this movie. I’m so sick of decades of people parroting that it is the worst Trek movie when they either haven’t seen it in a long time or aren’t taking into account all the movies. This film has the most TOS vibe of them all and has great interactions with the big 3. I would watch this ANYDAY over some others I won’t mention due to spoilers.

A lot of the problems of Star Trek V come from the fact that, being written and directed by Shatner, it's a love letter to his own character to the detriment of everyone else's. Yes, there are certainly great scenes - the initial camping scene, "What does God need with a starship," "You were never alone," etc. However, a lot is in service to how cool Kirk is - the free-soloing, needing Jim Kirk for this mission (and of course if you just need him, why not get a functional ship out to pick him up?) even though if you had a functioning ship, you COULD just transport the hostages out no fuss no muss so his presence means nothing, Kirk being the first to tell Sybok "Your take my pain power is bullshit," being the one to confront "God" as well as being the one the Klingons are obsessed with ("Oh, he's good!"), etc. As others have mentioned, this would have been worse in the original script where Spock and McCoy were supposed to betray Kirk, too - the idea was Kirk alone against all this and he'd bravely and awesomely save the day. It's only Nimoy and Kelly saying "Hell no, they'd never do that" that it got changed. And just narratively it's not very satisfying when even if they HAD betrayed him, there's not really an arc that late in the story where they can satisfyingly come back together for the final camping scene. It's a bit more than a "Whoops, guess I was wrong!" for that kind of betrayal since the script is adamant that Sybok's power is NOT mind control - he's legitimately turning them to his side. It also just feels like a very shallow look into religion and belief beyond the televangelist inspiration, but even that feels like it would have been better because televangelists are greedy assholes taking advantage of people's faith, whereas Sybok is a true believer. Once you're done with TNG stuff, I recommend looking up some of the Trek novels - the Q Continuum Trilogy connects several of TOS' weird baddies all together as a group that once fought the Q (Gorgon the Friendly Angel, "God" in this movie, and the Beta XII-A Entity from Day of the Dove). Also, apparently the center of the galaxy is just a short hop for the Enterprise, which will be hilarious when you guys get to Voyager.

A nice and kind reaction guys. Shatner wrote the script and he based it on televangelists. It was the favored nation clause in Shatner and Nimoy's contracts that had been put in place early in the series. Shatner exercised it and this is the result. According to reports neither Kelley nor Nimoy was willing to play having totally fallen under Sybock's control.They werequite happy with the horses though because both of them had been in many westerns before StarTrek.

If no one has already said it, there are 2 interesting cameos when Kirk, McCoy and Spock first go onto the bridge. First, the yeoman who meets Kirk is played by one of Shatner's daughters, Melanie. Also, the Admiral on the views screen is none other than producer Harve Bennett.

'What does God need with a Starship?' is such a great line from Kirk. I love Star Trek V. For me it's up there with 2 and 3 if I'm going for a TOS movie rewatch.

ok the concert analogy was pretty damn good i love that well done guys!

I have always loved this one. It’s fun, it’s got pretty much everything we want from Trek and the TOS crew, plus horses. Everyone gets to have their moments and do things they probably enjoyed filming. The scenes with the Big Three are all deep, moving, fun and very memorable. Sybok’s character is complex and Lawrence Luckinbill is an excellent actor. The search for God stuff is almost unimportant in the face of everything else that is good about this film. The pacing, lighting, acting, the setups for many of the shots, it’s all great and Shatner did a good job directing despite huge budget cuts and writers’ strike. As I’ve said before, there is no bad Star Trek.

This might not have been the Best Star Trek movie,in terms of production or story,but personally liked it cause i liked the characters and their interactions with all the original cast all the outdoors scenes and and it kinda felt like a Big Classic Episode in the atmosphere of the Originals.

In the original script drafted by Shatner, the Enterprise was going to search for God in the center of the Galaxy and instead found the Devil, but Paramount panicked at the idea, and brought in Sybok and the Vulcan God of Shakiri, and so you have to wonder what the original script would have yielded. Sybok did end up being an irony, since Sarak was so grieved over Spock being so human at his birth, only to see his half-brother forsake Vulcan logic and fully embrace emotions, so that worked. Some did not like this show, especially in the critics circles, but for the fans, it did well at the box office. This is when Wierd Al tried to launch UHF in theaters and it got crushed because you had to compete with Ghost Busters 2,, Tim Burton's Batman, Star Trek V: The Final Frontier, and Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade, preceded by Kevin Costner's Field of Dreams at the start in May and The Dream Team also with Michael Keaton in it, so for me it was weekend after weekend of Block Busters to sit and watch! The Movie Theaters made a KILLING in ticket sales this summer of 1989 and I'll never forget going to the theater to see all of these with my friends and alumni at College at the time!

I remember that comment about Scotty and the pipe-and literally laughed out loud-but it was killing me because I couldn’t say anything!

No matter what you think of this movie, you gotta admit the Bones and Spock visions when Sybok tries to turn them is a GREAT scene.

Ah, Star Trek V, in which Captain Kirk fights God... AND WINS!...😜 Some time after the release of this film, Walter Koenig was at a convention where an audience member made the statement "Shatner should never be allowed to direct again!", to which Walter replied "No...He was a good director...He should never be allowed to WRITE again!" much to the audience's delight...😄

Btw...the admiral that addresses Kirk right after he returns from shore leave in the begining is played by Harve Bennett

This is not the first time in the films that we see normal Spock.

Release order? So we’ll eventually get TNG & DS9 in the same week in a few years? Hell yeah!

If you dig around, you'll find an excellent fan edit of this thing called "In Thy Image". They pared away all the dross and silliness, and ended with a really good 60-minute episode of the original show. I highly recommend it. :)

Fun Fact: Sean Connery was asked to play Sybok but he could not do or did not want to so they named the "GOD" planet Sha Kon Ree. The villain was played by Lucille Ball's, son-in-law?. Ball was the one who put Trek on TV at Desilu and championed it.

Oh, and Kirk called Spock his brother in "Whom Gods Destroy": “Whom Gods Destroy” Kirk: They were humanitarians and statesmen, and they had a dream. A dream that became a reality and spread throughout the stars, a dream that made Mr. Spock and me brothers. Garth of Izar: Mr. Spock, do you consider Captain Kirk and yourself brothers? Spock: Captain Kirk speaks somewhat figuratively and with undue emotion. However, what he says is logical and I do, in fact, agree with it.

I enjoyed it in the theaters but as a hardcore Trekker from the beginning all those decades ago, I also thought they were a bit too fast & loose with it. Now, watching it with the fresh eyes of Alex & Josh, this movie moves up few notches in my appreciation.

It's funny watching in retrospect how much TNG bled over into this film. They reused a lot of the TNG sets as cost saving measures (they didn't even bother to redress the corridor scene, and in the sickbay scene you can see a TNG era LCARS computer display on the wall) and you can definitely see the change in style in the movie compared to ST4 and earlier.

Rex Holman who played J'onn was in the TOS episode Spectre of the Gun playing Morgan Earp.

Star Trek 4 was a humorous and tongue in cheek. So they went a little too far in Star Trek 5 in that direction. Plus from what I understand it had budget and "production hell" issues that greatly affected the final product.

For anyone that dislikes the Scotty / Uhura thing, it actually is hinted to / begins at the end of IV, in the shuttlecraft when they are getting their new ship. She comforts him when they think they are getting Excelsior. After everything they had just been through, life and death, almost losing their careers (And EARTH), its not surprising that Kirk is taking death risks and Uhura/Scotty fling, etc.

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