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First Time Watching! Game of Thrones 6x10 "The Winds of Winter"

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Emmy Reacts

Emmy Reacts

Күн бұрын

"The Winds of Winter" OMG Cersei!! What did you do!! 😱 The music underscoring everything in this episode was so so good. What a great finale episode! The KING OF THE NORTH!
I'm going to take a week break before starting season 7, but I'm excited to see where the show goes next!
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@naz8885
@naz8885 5 ай бұрын
The best episode of any show in TV history IMO
@kennyhudson9201
@kennyhudson9201 5 ай бұрын
Best scene book or show.
@jasonmccurry6276
@jasonmccurry6276 5 ай бұрын
Can't disagree
@HackWilson14
@HackWilson14 5 ай бұрын
Have to disagree. There are a lot better episodes in Game of Thrones. This episode dies down completely after Cersei’s shenanigans are over. The Jon King in the North stuff was an obvious rip off of the scene with Robb in season 1 episode 10. And the Arya thing was horribly dumb.
@USURPER_KING280
@USURPER_KING280 5 ай бұрын
Same here. This is the first episode that I was totally on team Cersie😅
@gypsysoul.
@gypsysoul. 5 ай бұрын
100%!!!!
@bluehope42
@bluehope42 5 ай бұрын
If Robert finds out, he'll kill him. You have to protect him. Promise me, Ned. Think about this.
@KatBee00
@KatBee00 5 ай бұрын
I have seen the Davos scene countless times and it is still my favorite piece of acting in the whole series. I cry every time 😭
@anthonyleecollins9319
@anthonyleecollins9319 5 ай бұрын
Right. And you can feel how he was holding all of that inside him until the battle was won. Because Davos is the best.
@KatBee00
@KatBee00 5 ай бұрын
@anthonyleecollins9319 The moment he says "I loved that girl, like she was my own" and the voice break 😭😭😭
@bill.godwin-austen
@bill.godwin-austen 5 ай бұрын
He was already right there, but this episode absolutely clinched Davos as one of my favorite characters in the entire run of the show.
@KatBee00
@KatBee00 5 ай бұрын
@@bill.godwin-austen SAME!!! This was THE Davos moment.
@kylejohnson1308
@kylejohnson1308 5 ай бұрын
Like a pro he waited until the battle was over to confront her.
@KatBee00
@KatBee00 5 ай бұрын
YEEESSSS MY FAVORITE EPISODE OF THE SERIES
@KatBee00
@KatBee00 5 ай бұрын
Like the opening music is literally my ringtone and alarm 😂
@shinrapresident7010
@shinrapresident7010 5 ай бұрын
@@KatBee00 Twice now I've tried suggesting a song if you liked the opening song but it keeps being automatically blocked or deleted. I don't know why.
@kylejohnson1308
@kylejohnson1308 5 ай бұрын
Oh no she pulled a Nikki from Nikki and Steven react. .... He's a Baratheon !! 🤣🤣🤣
@lunagal
@lunagal 5 ай бұрын
I thought of that too! He’s a Baratheon!!! 😂🤣😂🤣
@kylejohnson1308
@kylejohnson1308 5 ай бұрын
@Andolin414 Yeah lots of them have done that.
@shinrapresident7010
@shinrapresident7010 5 ай бұрын
''Her litter never left the Red Keep'' A litter are those small shelter/carriage things you see the royals and highborns being carried around in the streets. Arya killed Frey in the exact manner of the story told when he killed the Starks, remember? About the white rat that ate it's own children and the gods not forgiving someone who murders a guest in their home.
@bill.godwin-austen
@bill.godwin-austen 5 ай бұрын
Did you notice that when the wildfire ignited, there was a scene of it blasting down through a tunnel. That exact scene was in several of Bran's weirwood visions. It seems he may be able to glimpse into the future...
@GigglemonsterXD
@GigglemonsterXD 5 ай бұрын
I've been waiting for you to get to this one!! I think its one of, if not the, best "single episodes" in the whole show. The use of **soundtrack** at the beginning is just... *chef's kiss.*
@kylejohnson1308
@kylejohnson1308 5 ай бұрын
The best episode in TV history.
@basharbodhisattva8404
@basharbodhisattva8404 5 ай бұрын
Between this episode 10, episode 9 (BotB), and episode 5 (The Door), season 6 may have three out of my Top 5 episodes of the whole series.
@bill.godwin-austen
@bill.godwin-austen 5 ай бұрын
The "Frey pie" happened differently in the books, but pretty much everyone loved the way it was handled here.
@gunkulator1
@gunkulator1 5 ай бұрын
Walder Frey hasn't died in the books yet.
@WLDB
@WLDB 5 ай бұрын
but frey pies are still a thing in them​@@gunkulator1
@bill.godwin-austen
@bill.godwin-austen 5 ай бұрын
@@gunkulator1 I never claimed he did. I made two statements: 1. The Frey pie was handled differently in the books. 2. The way it was used in the show was generally loved by viewers of the show, including a lot of book readers (and I'm assuming you weren't among those who did). Both of my statements were true, and neither addressed Walder's status in the books.
@rivermistfae
@rivermistfae 5 ай бұрын
Lmao not Lord Wyman going back for a second slice of eeaacchh 😂
@markharris1125
@markharris1125 5 ай бұрын
I never understand why people are puzzled to see Varys standing with Dany on the ship. He went to Dorne to get allies and ships. He travelled back to Essos with those ships. The ships were readied for transport and battle. It's been months since the scene in Sunspear. Why shouldn't he be there?
@USCFlash
@USCFlash 5 ай бұрын
Because they are idiots who are completely nitpicking....despite the fact that George RR Martin has specifically said everything is going on at different timelines
@markharris1125
@markharris1125 5 ай бұрын
@@USCFlash The other one is the growth of the direwolves. People look at Bran climbing at the end of episode 1, look at Summer fretting below and remark how quickly the wolf has grown. Instead of inferring the logical truth, that a long time has passed by.
@USCFlash
@USCFlash 5 ай бұрын
@@markharris1125 Well sure but that one is explained at least for the less informed....the king has been "riding for a month"....so obviously, the direwolf has grown a lot in a month. (Still quite clearly a big puppy though, which makes sense)
@kylejohnson1308
@kylejohnson1308 5 ай бұрын
They stopped at Dorn and picked him up and there were Dorn ships at the end there sailing with the rest. Plus no one said it was 5 minutes after he was last seen in the episode in Dorn. It could of been weeks. People are just dorks. Lol
@markharris1125
@markharris1125 5 ай бұрын
@kylejohnson1308 I've always assumed that to transport al the Dothraki, all their horses, the Unsullied, all the provisions and equipment, they would need all the ships in Essos first. But who knows, I think this chat has run its course.
@shannonbrigante5764
@shannonbrigante5764 5 ай бұрын
Favorite episode of the entire series!
@nathan43082
@nathan43082 5 ай бұрын
This is my favorite episode of the show.
@gypsysoul.
@gypsysoul. 5 ай бұрын
This is literally the episode I go through 6 seasons of reactions for! In my most humble opinion, this is the best episode of television in history. Still some cool stuff to come tho! Keep up the epic work 🤩
@prico3358
@prico3358 5 ай бұрын
Why would Ned hide jon from Robert if Jon was Roberts son with the love of his life? .. that was a miss there 😂😂.
@kylejohnson1308
@kylejohnson1308 5 ай бұрын
She pulled a Nikki from Nikki and Steven react. 🤣🤣🤣
@gunkulator1
@gunkulator1 5 ай бұрын
With this episode you have achieved peak Game of Thrones.
@autje1970
@autje1970 5 ай бұрын
Some examples of fine editing in this episode. Walder Frey's triumphant "For House Lannister!" while the shot still lingers over the empty window Tommen just jumped out of. The smash cut from the baby's close-up to Jon's close-up, an excellent moment of 'show, not tell.'
@bakerfx4968
@bakerfx4968 5 ай бұрын
Best season ends with the best episode! So good!
@Silver_Owl
@Silver_Owl 5 ай бұрын
This is my favourite episode of the entire show, and I enjoyed your reaction, thank you!
@jpicard81
@jpicard81 5 ай бұрын
If they woulda left the sept when margaery tried, would they had gotten far enough away to make a difference? My guess is no
@Finians_Mancave
@Finians_Mancave 5 ай бұрын
Robert can't be Jon's father because Lianna was never with Robert. She was kidnapped before they could be married... which prompted Robert to start a war -- a war that he won and made him King. Before you proceed to watching season 7, you REALLY, REALLY should watch the fan made video titled R+L=J (There is more than one, so make sure you get the correct one. I don't have the link for it, but I'm sure if you ask, someone here will provide it for you. The film compiles a bunch of clips you've already seen - so there are no spoilers - that together should shed some light on subplots that are typically missed by most viewers).
@ben361971
@ben361971 5 ай бұрын
the back and forth between YES! and poor Marjory was EPIC! lolololololol
@Thecanadianwitch
@Thecanadianwitch 5 ай бұрын
dunno if you realized yet but the huge thing in the screen at the library is the symbol we see in the intro
@Silver_Owl
@Silver_Owl 5 ай бұрын
The white ravens are sent out by the Maesters from the Citadel in Oldtown to herald a change in the seasons. In the scene where Sam and Gilly first arrive at Oldtown, you can see ravens flying out from the tower. The Maesters study reports, determine the season has changed, and send them accordingly. In Season 2, episode 1, one arrives at King's Landing, and Pycelle brings it to the Small Council meeting, and tells Cersei and the others that summer has ended. That summer lasted nine years before it started transitioning into autumn - since a season in Game of Thrones is roughly a year, it means the autumn from Seasons 2 - 6 has lasted about five years or so.
@Jose-Lozanchez
@Jose-Lozanchez 5 ай бұрын
Esos minutos de piano de Ramin y este capítulo en general quedan grabados a Fuego Y Sangre en nuestra vida, es la culminación de una obra de arte, el estasis emocional
@Mnkeys
@Mnkeys 5 ай бұрын
"If Robert finds out he'll..." "you have to protect him. Promise me Ned.". All I shall say :)
@Ray-ko1lm
@Ray-ko1lm 5 ай бұрын
Wonder why he’d need to be protected from Robert 🤔
@Mnkeys
@Mnkeys 5 ай бұрын
@@Raminagrobisfr ....brother
@gunkulator1
@gunkulator1 5 ай бұрын
And why was the King's Guard there? Hmm...
@cathleenwarner1778
@cathleenwarner1778 5 ай бұрын
Seriously, who thinks Robert could be the father after Lyanna said that?????
@Mnkeys
@Mnkeys 5 ай бұрын
@@cathleenwarner1778 alot of people, you'd be surprised
@candyman6089
@candyman6089 5 ай бұрын
Emmy is a certainly nervous talker!😂
@Nodnarbanator
@Nodnarbanator 5 ай бұрын
Cersei with a MASSIVE power move.
@Raminagrobisfr
@Raminagrobisfr 5 ай бұрын
Separation of church and state : an Howto guide, by cersei Lannister.
@Ottawajames
@Ottawajames 5 ай бұрын
Profligacy means wasteful expenditure. Usually used to describe financial matters, it can be used to describe someone who is sexually promiscuous, who just gives it away.
@marcelamontero8694
@marcelamontero8694 5 ай бұрын
Please watch R+L=J, it doesn't have any spoilers, and you will understand the Reveal about Jon.
@markquinlin5678
@markquinlin5678 5 ай бұрын
19:37 The Citadel/maesters decree when seasons have changed. It was summer throughout season 1, and up to now, ‘twas autumn.
@ShuffleUpandDeal32
@ShuffleUpandDeal32 5 ай бұрын
Yes the music is great
@Raminagrobisfr
@Raminagrobisfr 5 ай бұрын
A nitpick : Varys is already in Westeros (to be specific, in Dorne) during this episode... And then in the last shot we see him alongside Dany sailing to Weseros. It's unlikely he had the time to sail back to Mereen.
@awadoma2702
@awadoma2702 5 ай бұрын
what people fail to understand is that days, weeks or months pass between scenes, Varys could have gone all the way back or he and the Dorn & Highgarden fleets meet up and join with Dany along the way to their final destination.
@gunkulator1
@gunkulator1 5 ай бұрын
The very last scene is many weeks after Varys' scene in Dorne. He doesn't sail back to Meereen. He sails with the Dornish on their ships and they meet up in the Narrow Sea. Just that level of coordination and meeting up shows that much time has passed.
@bill.godwin-austen
@bill.godwin-austen 5 ай бұрын
@@awadoma2702This! We're not watching "24", people... events aren't happening "in real time". Time skips have occurred constantly in the series. It took a month for King Robert to journey to Winterfell in the very first episode, and it all occurred within that first episode... perhaps 10 minutes between receiving the announcement that he was coming to Winterfell and the arrival of his entourage. The difference is that in the later seasons, we often didn't get the little throwaway lines about "a month", "a fortnight", etc. to clue us in because they were trying to expedite the storyline in fewer episodes, and sadly, those bits of information were among the cuts.
@HXGM
@HXGM 5 ай бұрын
Danny would have to sail right past Dorne, its pretty likely she just picked him up.
@prico3358
@prico3358 5 ай бұрын
Dude.. season 1 2 and 3 are full of those. Dont be a sheep. Teleportation happened all over the series.
@miquelcanosasanteularia1678
@miquelcanosasanteularia1678 5 ай бұрын
probably the best episode ever
@alanmartinez7746
@alanmartinez7746 4 ай бұрын
I didn't knew that maestre Pycelle is General Veers, the imperial officer in the battle of Hoth in Star Wars
@fortytwolizards6669
@fortytwolizards6669 5 ай бұрын
regarding Jon's father.... watch season 1 again.
@corsicanlulu
@corsicanlulu 5 ай бұрын
she needs to watch the r+l = j vid
@acgAdventures
@acgAdventures 5 ай бұрын
Or refer back to the countless times someone mentions Lyanna Being kidnapped by Rhaegar or Bran's previous visions with the Kings guard. It's pretty obvious at this point in the series who Jon's parents are, it's the reveal later on in season seven that adds to it
@TheDoctorfat
@TheDoctorfat 5 ай бұрын
There is one question you must ask your self in response to Jon. Why did Ned go through so much effort to hide that Lyanna was Jon's mother, from Robert? "If he finds out..."
@USCFlash
@USCFlash 5 ай бұрын
STOP HINTING. Let her figure it out on her own. Christ what is wrong with you people?
@TheDoctorfat
@TheDoctorfat 5 ай бұрын
@@USCFlashThis is a show, that *wants* that question asked, especially at this point. This is a show, where at this time, people were running to the forums to discuss all the theories they had. What I have said is not spoilers, it was asked in Season 1, it was asked again now in season 6
@USCFlash
@USCFlash 5 ай бұрын
@@TheDoctorfat Nice try. Knock it off. She did not figure it out...if you hint at it or tell her, it's a spoiler.
@acgAdventures
@acgAdventures 5 ай бұрын
​@@USCFlashbecause this is the episode where it's revealed who both of Jon's parents are
@USCFlash
@USCFlash 5 ай бұрын
@@acgAdventures No, this is the episode that reveals who Jon's MOTHER is. There are only hints as to who his other parent is. It is a spoiler to lead someone away from an error and reveal the name. It has been hinted at, several times. There is a reason why the name reveal is blanked out. For people who are paying attention but who are SLOWER to catch on. This reveal shows who Jon's MOTHER is. The father's name is MUTED....to keep folks who have not gotten it yet, in the dark till later.
@basharbodhisattva8404
@basharbodhisattva8404 5 ай бұрын
Margaery is a survivor (I mean...not literally in this episode, but nevermind that) and a political chameleon. She's extremely adept at deducing what drives and makes people tick and then trying to mirror that which she thinks they want to see in her, all so she can ascend to the top position of power (remember season two when she replied to Littlefinger that she wanted to be THE queen after Renly had been assassinated). That's why she could work so well and get in close with Renly to try to make their marriage work even though she knew full well he was gay and not interested in her that way. That's why she could with Joffrey despite him being an aggressive proto-serial killer. And that's why she could with the High Sparrow religious fanatics - by telling them enough of what they want to hear and selling it. She's great at wearing masks - just not literal ones like Arya. She wasn't cruel for the sake of cruelty (like Joffrey or Ramsey) or as single-mindedly petty and vindictive to her own detriment over any trivial thing like Cersei. She was just selfish because she wanted power and status for herself above all as much as possible, and could always see and keep the bigger picture in mind. I really admire and was impressed with her, honestly. One of the best characters on the show who feels very real, human, and with a lot of depth, and portrayed to be more grey instead of as a hero or villain-type. Natalie Dormer really brought her to life.
@jusskitten6120
@jusskitten6120 5 ай бұрын
ou should watch R+L=J, the show scenes. Its the video with less views. It shows you everything you might have forgotten about Lyanna Stark from the first few seasons. Its a great watch
@rivermistfae
@rivermistfae 5 ай бұрын
Yes yes yes yes
@Jacob-Iellina
@Jacob-Iellina 5 ай бұрын
The best episode of the show!!!
@ShuffleUpandDeal32
@ShuffleUpandDeal32 5 ай бұрын
Cersei is doing whatever she wants. Also you seem to have forgotten who Lyanna married.
@havok6280
@havok6280 5 ай бұрын
Why would Robert's son need protection from Robert????
@prico3358
@prico3358 5 ай бұрын
This is the best episode of the series.
@Realmediamashup
@Realmediamashup 5 ай бұрын
RIP Margery
@cassandramcbride7007
@cassandramcbride7007 5 ай бұрын
I kinda wish a deleted scene between Olenna and Mace was incluide. Because we could see that Mace wasnt that fool. And he really love Loras and Margaery. Anyway Margaery didnt turn Loras into the faith. We could only assume, she just wanted Loras in Highgarden, and once there, he would be free and not following the faith. In HighGarden, no Sparrow would touch him. What is frustrating on margaery death, unlike Robb death, Catelyn of suspecious about the lannister song, but it was Bolton who slip the armor, for her to see. Margaery suspect about something almost from beginning. Even without any conclusion, she wanted to leave. Cersei didnt outsmart margaery. Margaery was cornered by a fool who imagine could play the game, and facing a enemy that had advantage by walking free in red keep and could talk to rivals or allies to do her dirty job. Highsparrow neglected cersei and dragged margaery into death.
@ktttttttttt
@ktttttttttt 4 ай бұрын
He's name is Aegon Targaryen, true heir to the iron throne.
@Phizzo4real
@Phizzo4real 4 ай бұрын
Margery made a deal with the High Sparrow, sparing he and her brother. However, Cersei was playing chess (a brutal violent type of chess 😂) while Margery was playing checkers. In fact, unless you are a Tywin, a Mad King or Joffery, no one would think of murdering a slew of ppl (some who arent even backing anyone)... except Cersei. Give Cersei a dragon, and the entire world would burn 😂
@DRICHTER0426
@DRICHTER0426 5 ай бұрын
Don't worry Loras, they won't be in power forever.......😂😂😂😂facts💯💯
@jairoenrriqueguerramercado7414
@jairoenrriqueguerramercado7414 5 ай бұрын
Reacts to R+L=J
@izattyu6863
@izattyu6863 5 ай бұрын
Not that it matters now, but Margery was willing to stick it out in jail until rescue came, but then she got to see Lorys and how bad he was handling it all. So, she calculated the quickest way out and took matters into her own hands. Thoman was not strong enough to fix this. She pretended to go along with Westerosi Bernie Sanders to get herself and Lorys out. Once out, she would manipulate Thoman to end the High Sparrow. She never got the chance though. The rose she gave Olenna was the sygil of their house. It was meant to indicate Tyrell 4 Eva. She was playing the game and she needed Lady Olenna to leave b/c she was in danger.
@markquinlin5678
@markquinlin5678 5 ай бұрын
4:13 Wait?! You thought Margerie turned on her brother? Did no one explain the scene where she gave Olenna the parchment with a rose?! Margerie is (was 😞) playing them, the Seven the whole time. She remained loyal to House Tyrell to the very end.
@chipsthedog1
@chipsthedog1 5 ай бұрын
Stolen from another comment.... Now you know why it's called Kings landing
@bryce253
@bryce253 5 ай бұрын
The most important scene in all of GOT and time and time again reactors fumble. 😅. I remember when this episode first aired I jumped out of my seat when that scene happened and that is rare for me. 😅. I knew exactly what it meant and so did all my friends and co-workers as it was all we were talking about the next day.
@mack_taylor
@mack_taylor 5 ай бұрын
My headcanon series finale 😊 every scene is just.... Mwah!
@deonjames1041
@deonjames1041 5 ай бұрын
Sansa kept the Knights of The Vale in her pocket because it was a great cinematic moment and frankly the showrunners couldn’t be bothered coming up with a story reason as to why…
@harryballsak1123
@harryballsak1123 5 ай бұрын
Not everything needs exposition
@deonjames1041
@deonjames1041 5 ай бұрын
@@harryballsak1123 This did because it’s completely illogical. Same as Alliser Thorne assassinating Jon after he’d let thousands of Free Folk pass through Castle Black or Danny leaving a small mercenary company to govern Meereen…completely illogical.
@harryballsak1123
@harryballsak1123 5 ай бұрын
@@deonjames1041 Jon is killed by the Night's Watch in the books also
@deonjames1041
@deonjames1041 5 ай бұрын
@@harryballsak1123 Months after he’d let The Free Folk through, he was murdered after he announced his intention to take back Winterfell
@harryballsak1123
@harryballsak1123 5 ай бұрын
@@deonjames1041 and.....
@MrYoungGun100
@MrYoungGun100 5 ай бұрын
Emmy…ask ONE more question and see what happens!😂
@jasonrd316
@jasonrd316 5 ай бұрын
22:58 - Is he? So far he really has just sounded smart, and tried to get her to abandon the people closest to her. So far every situation he's had control of with her has backfired. Yeah, they did mention the wall Magic a few times...I know in the first histories and lore, and I think Benjin mentioned it, but I don't remember other times. People are gonna ask you to watch R+L =J. Please do, but wait until after season 7...it's a spoiler. People will argue that but not sure how they can if they watched this reaction. It's a great video though, so do watch it. Also, gotta watch the CORRECT version. There are 2 out there and one is really wrong. These reactions are fun! It's both exciting and sad we're nearing the end.
@axmngames
@axmngames 5 ай бұрын
An incredible episode!
@Rayray-kj9cc
@Rayray-kj9cc 5 ай бұрын
The very best episode!!
@thecreatordiesalone8703
@thecreatordiesalone8703 5 ай бұрын
Why does everyone instantly think Robert is the father ?, he started a rebellion because he had an obsession with his betrothed
@seanmorehouse2834
@seanmorehouse2834 5 ай бұрын
Remember that time Margaery called Cersei a drunk and humiliated her in front of all of her friends? Yeah... her life was effectively over at that moment. It was just a matter of how and when.
@Necrothep
@Necrothep 5 ай бұрын
8:55 It's so funny seeing people thinking the show is brutal and terrible at first and then giggle when people get stabbed and cheers for death. xD 23:34 Remeber the story Bran told in the tower about the Rat Cook? All Starks children know these stories from the nanie. That's the best foreshadowing in my opinion. 27:44 Rhaegar took Lyanna. That what started Robert Rebellion.
@stephanieashton8835
@stephanieashton8835 22 күн бұрын
I guess you've already finished the series, lol, but yeah, that's not how the line of succession is supposed to work. Cersei just seized power because she could.
@justgallaghergolf80
@justgallaghergolf80 5 ай бұрын
Tied with SOA ending Stall
@awadoma2702
@awadoma2702 5 ай бұрын
Sansa was not the only reason they won the battle. The vale would never have even came north to help if Jon's army had not been involved. The vale without Jon's army would have failed, Jon's army without the vale would have failed... so they were both needed to win the battle. Jon's army weakened the enemy's numbers that allowed the vale to come in last second and finish them off. It played out the way the writers wanted for dramatic effect... The right thing to do would have been for Sansa to tell Jon about the Vale. they wouldn't have lost so many lives, as they would have held back a bit more till the Vale arrived mid battle to help.
@gunkulator1
@gunkulator1 5 ай бұрын
Nope. Jon's army was a decoy to lure Ramsey out from behind the walls of Winterfell. Ramsey only gave up his superior position because he thought he had an easy victory against Jon. If Jon keeps withdrawing or refuses to engage, Ramsey catches on that something ain't right and marches his troops back to Winterfell. If that happens, the Vale army is useless. Cavalry are of no value in a siege and no one has siege equipment anyway. The right thing was not to tell Jon so that Ramsey has no chance of figuring out the real plan.
@awadoma2702
@awadoma2702 5 ай бұрын
@@gunkulator1 Sansa has no clue if the Vale is coming and when they will get there, so if the Vale arrived an hour or so later all of Jon's forces would be dead and the Vale would be useless as they Ramsey would retreat to Winterfell. If Jon knew about the Vale the attack could have been coordinated with the Vale to surprise Ramsey and save most of Jon's forces from being killed. There is no excuse from withholding info from Jon other then the writers wanting to surprise the viewers with the last minute rescue. telling Jon does not mean you also have to let Ramsey also know which is the argument that people make as to why it's better for Jon not to know... the fight would still go on as it did but you would time it so the Vale came in mid fight instead of at the end
@gunkulator1
@gunkulator1 5 ай бұрын
@@awadoma2702 Sansa knows all about it. She and Littlefinger meet in Mole's Town and plan it out. Sansa does coordinate with the Vale to surprise Ramsey. Why is Jon needed for this? Again, if he acts in a way that suggests reinforcements are coming, Ramsey figures out something is up. Why risk it? The very best way to surprise Ramsey is for Jon to act like a desperate outnumbered commander and the best way for him to do that is if he really believes that to be his situation. When Robb Stark sent 2000 men to die as a decoy for the Lannisters, do you think he told them? First rule of secret plans: keep them secret. You only tell people what they need to know. Jon most definitely did not need to know. As to the timing, Jon blows that up all on his own by charging after Rickon. It is Jon's recklessness and inability to control his emotions that almost dooms his army. He bears far more responsibility for their deaths than Sansa.
@awadoma2702
@awadoma2702 5 ай бұрын
@@gunkulator1 lol i'm not even going to form any kind of reply for everything you just said... no time to get into a back and forth over so many things i disagree with what you just said, just a few points that i will touch on. nothing was planned at Mole town as they did not know how events were going to play out... by your logic Sansa was willing to sacrifice Jon and his army by not telling him about the Vale, and your argument assumes that Jon can't keep from giving away to the enemy that the Vale is coming to help. there was only one reason the Vale was kept secret and that was to surprise the audience. and the reason not to tell Jon was lazy and bad writing.
@gunkulator1
@gunkulator1 5 ай бұрын
@@awadoma2702 They knew in Mole's Town that Ramsey was threatening Castle Black so they decide to strike at him first. Right after that, two things happen: Sansa goads Jon into agreeing to attack Winterfell while LF goes off to the Vale to convince young Robin Arryn to do the same. Gee what an amazing coincidence - not. Clearly this was what they planned when they met. Yes, Sansa was willing to sacrifice Jon in order to stop Ramsey. Rickon too. This isn't S1 Sansa. This is S6 Sansa after she's learned some very harsh realities from the school of hard knocks. She does the exact same thing that Robb Stark does with 2000 northerners in S1 but for some reason only Sansa gets heat for doing it. She doesn't tell Jon for the same reason Robb Stark does not clue in the 2000 northerners that he's sending to their deaths. It's basic military tactics and operational security: you only tell soldiers what they need to know, never any more.
@syeargin3207
@syeargin3207 5 ай бұрын
U are having way too much fun at Frey's death🤣
@Raminagrobisfr
@Raminagrobisfr 5 ай бұрын
I like how the character of the high sparrow was left ambiguous to his end. Was he a sincere religious zealot ? Or was he just using religion to be in power , and manipulating people? We'll never know, and it's nice to leave something like this open to interpretation. What i don't like is ... slight spoiler alert ... that we never heard much about the consequences of this event.
@abdullahkuzhan7247
@abdullahkuzhan7247 5 ай бұрын
I think it's pretty clear that he was genuinely acting out his religion. In multiple instances, his religion actually kept him from gaining even more power. People who use religion to manipulate will cut corners and ignore small but significant things about the religion when it benefits them. The way he talked about his faith felt genuine and he remained faithful till the end, you gotta give him that. Still I can't help but dislike him most of the time. That's why he's such a brilliantly written character.
@stephenmillertime
@stephenmillertime 5 ай бұрын
Jon is half stark half targaryen fire and blood
@campagnollo
@campagnollo 5 ай бұрын
Jon is not Robert’s son as Robert would delete him if he found out. Just remember who was guarding the tower and it will become clear.
@USCFlash
@USCFlash 5 ай бұрын
STOP IT!!!! Let her figure it out on her own! What the hell is wrong with you?
@almodius3480
@almodius3480 5 ай бұрын
the best fucking episode in any show in this genre
@believer9443
@believer9443 5 ай бұрын
Well you have lowkey upsetted me, I have never seen a person who has not got emotional at the Tower of Joy scene...be it a man or a woman
@cathleenwarner1778
@cathleenwarner1778 5 ай бұрын
There are 13 episodes left
@itsreeeshaaa7560
@itsreeeshaaa7560 5 ай бұрын
It’s hilarious that you think Robert is Jon’s father. Watch R+L=J. Tbh you should know who Jon’s father is already.
@regaubade8329
@regaubade8329 5 ай бұрын
Who was protecting Lyanna? Ser Arthur Dayne. Who was he fighting for? Who Ned and friends were fighting before the Tower? Baratheon ?!
@USCFlash
@USCFlash 5 ай бұрын
STOP Let her figure it out on her own! What the hell is wrong with you?
@regaubade8329
@regaubade8329 5 ай бұрын
@@USCFlash It's plain in everyone's face, always was. I asked questions. Calm tf down.
@USCFlash
@USCFlash 5 ай бұрын
@@regaubade8329 IT is not plain because if it was, so many reactors would not get it wrong. You didn't "ask questions" you provided a series of clues, in question form, so she would know who it was.... spoiler. You and your ilk are total garbage.
@WLDB
@WLDB 5 ай бұрын
​@@USCFlashThey are. The answers are all there. Nothing ahead being given away at all.
@USCFlash
@USCFlash 5 ай бұрын
@@WLDB Laughable. SO you can ruin a surprise party because there were hints to the guest of honor it may be happening? You people are twisted. You do this on every GOT reaction video where the reactors miss the parentage. There were no ANSWERS. There were hints....those that are quicker and pay very close attention, catch it....those who don't, do not. And yes, telling someone who the father is after they have for it wrong, is giving it away.
@markquinlin5678
@markquinlin5678 5 ай бұрын
Yeah, you’re definitely overreaching. Hizdar is the leader of a powerful Meereenese family. He has rich people things to do and attend. They always show up late. He had nothing to do with the ambush. He was not the Harpy.
@hepunk
@hepunk 5 ай бұрын
Jon is not Baratheon. Ned concealed Jon's heiritage because Robert was committed to elimination all the Targaryens...
@USCFlash
@USCFlash 5 ай бұрын
STOP IT.
@mitchellbeston1033
@mitchellbeston1033 5 ай бұрын
Jon is a Targaryen..that is the reveal in this episode. He is the child of Lianna and Aemon Targaryen. Ned never strayed from Cat...he kept the secret of Jon's parentage to protect him from Robert Baratheon, who would have killed him if he knew who he was. There will be people who won't like what i've explained to you but it is not a spoiler...this episode was the reveal that Jon is the true heir to the iron throne...it just took some people a few episodes to put it all together whereas the reality is that this episode revealed it all. Lianna was not kidnapped...Bran saw it a few episodes earlier...the secret marriage of Lianna and Aemon, and Lianna asking Ned to protect her son. It is obvious if you join the dots, which was the whole point of this episode.
@Jose-Lozanchez
@Jose-Lozanchez 5 ай бұрын
Emmy Cariño, tienes que retroceder y ver las pistas que a lo largo de la temporadas nos sueltan sobre Jon, es impresionante, Ned nunca engaño a Cat y recuerda el cuento del pastelero que contó Bran
@Ray-ko1lm
@Ray-ko1lm 5 ай бұрын
Don’t forget that Robert wasn’t with Lyanna. Robert and Lyanna were betrothed, but she was kidnapped by Rhaegar Targaryen. And Ned then showed up to save her, but she gave him a baby and died.
@USCFlash
@USCFlash 5 ай бұрын
STOP IT!!!! Let her figure it out on her own! What the hell is wrong with you?
@markharris1125
@markharris1125 5 ай бұрын
The only thing that bugs me about this episode is that we never saw Arya training for anything (fighting in the dark, maybe), least of all learning the magics involved in taking on not just a face but an entirely new body shape and persona. They did not do that story well. Otherwise, great episode, of course.
@frankdroidjazz512
@frankdroidjazz512 5 ай бұрын
Now you should watch "R+L=J"
@USCFlash
@USCFlash 5 ай бұрын
NO SHE SHOULD NOT. SHE HAS NOT GOTTEN IT YET.
@acgAdventures
@acgAdventures 5 ай бұрын
So these are things already stated to this point in the series- So Robert isn't Jon's father, you have to remember that the rebellion started with lyanna Stark being kidnapped by rhaegar Targaryen. A point thats made a number of times in the seies to this point. Also the people defending the tower from Ned and his companions are Kings guard, Ned makes the coment about not seeing them on the battlefield when Rhaegar died.
@kylejohnson1308
@kylejohnson1308 5 ай бұрын
So Jon getting killed at fhe end of season 5 doesn't make you cry but Davos yelling at Melissndra does? 🤷
@drewsaad3948
@drewsaad3948 5 ай бұрын
Robert and Leanna were betrothed, not involved yet.....but Leanna was kidnapped by "John's Father".....
@gunkulator1
@gunkulator1 5 ай бұрын
S1E1 Robert says "Every night I kill him in my dreams"
@USCFlash
@USCFlash 5 ай бұрын
Nice spoiler, OP....jesus christ.
@drewsaad3948
@drewsaad3948 5 ай бұрын
@@USCFlash that's not a spolier.....it's been thoroughly explained if your paying attention
@USCFlash
@USCFlash 5 ай бұрын
@@drewsaad3948 It is a spoiler. It has not been "thoroughly explained". It has been hinted at, several times. There is a reason why the name reveal is blanked out. For people who are paying attention but who are SLOWER to catch on. This reveal shows who Jon's MOTHER is. The father's name is MUTED.
@USCFlash
@USCFlash 5 ай бұрын
EMMY DO NOT READ THE COMMENTS - THERE ARE TONS OF SPOILERS (they call them "questions" & "corrections") BEING POSTED BY TONS OF SELFISH, STUPID PEOPLE.
@TheDoctorfat
@TheDoctorfat 5 ай бұрын
Look dude, I get it, you're concerned about spoilers, but like, you're being weirdly police-y about it
@USCFlash
@USCFlash 5 ай бұрын
@@TheDoctorfat You are not being policed. She is being WARNED to avoid spoilers, which have already been posted several times. THanks for lecturing me about it, but I am not the problem here....people who deliberately post spoilers at this very point in the show, regarding this particular scenario are.
@USCFlash
@USCFlash 5 ай бұрын
Unbelievable....whenever a reactor does not figure out the big one yet....dozens of clowns swoop in to spoil it immediately. There is a reason that something is shown later next season...LEAVE IT ALONE UNTIL THEN. STOP SPOILING IT.
@znk0r
@znk0r 5 ай бұрын
There is nothing spoiled its laid out clearly and obviously by the show.
@Neb_DCS
@Neb_DCS 5 ай бұрын
I don't see anyone spoiling anything, she made a mistake and people are correcting her.
@WLDB
@WLDB 5 ай бұрын
It's not a spoiler when everything goes is laid out. It gives nothing away about the future.
@USCFlash
@USCFlash 5 ай бұрын
@@znk0r Laughable being "laid out" and being "figured out" are DIFFERENT and yet a lot of people miss it. You are the type of folks who spoil a surprise party and say "well the guest of honor should have spotted the obvious signs".
@USCFlash
@USCFlash 5 ай бұрын
@@Neb_DCS CORRECTING HER WITH THE SPOILER. IF she is wrong, by guessing then she has to wait for the bigger reveal next season.
@OnlyRuindel
@OnlyRuindel 5 ай бұрын
We have been waitin for you on this one!😂❤
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