Haha! Touché 😆😆

Keep at it my friend!! You will get there with hard work and perseverance! Most of us start out with mediocre birds and improve our stock over time. Wish there was a way to ship birds to India! Good luck!

Most of this tossing seems a loss of time, money and energy. Beginners are fooled by it. If results are bad they think they didn't toss enough or whatever. I very rarely have had a bad result in a race. I never tossed. I now remember that when I raced together with my nephew, in the club we won first price 12(!) weeks in a row. In this club raced about 350 - 400 birds every week. We raced 12 widowhood cocks. In the more than 100 year history of the club this never has happened before or after. The birds we're never tossed.

Very cool to hear your experience!! Thanks for sharing!!

Thanks Daniel!!

I’ll give that a try! Thanks for the suggestion

Thank Fatal!! Really appreciate it! And yes, pho is always good!!

It really would be interesting to see that. I will see what I can do with the gps rings. At least we’d see if 4-5 of them met up and flew together. Good luck with your road training!!

Thanks Al!! Good to hear from you and hope you and your birds are doing well! Thanks for the nice feedback!

Thank you Christian!! Really appreciate your support !!

Thank you Mark! James

Thanks Miguel!!

Thanks!! Appreciate it!

Thanks!

Before the first toss they should be loft flying regularly and routing/ranging.

Nice! I’ll definitely try that later on!!

It varied from bird to bird, but typically about 4 minutes between each bird

I did not this time. Once I get them out to 30 miles or more I’ll start using the gps bands

Hi! Thanks for sharing your experience and success with us! Do you not toss/train your young birds?

@@RFRP Hi, appreciate your reaction. We traditionally toss them 1 time some days before first race (60miles). That's all. But even that is not necessary. I remember Piter Beerda (the strain Jelle Jellema's pigeons are based upon) not even doing that. I found out he won first prize various times with a pigeon that NEVER had been tossed or raced before.(As I did myself) Piter raced in a different part of the Netherlands. I mentioned this year 1995 because I remembered this trucker competing and thinking his tossing was his "secret". His results were good, but ours were much better.

@@leunisvandewege9651 wow! I find that fascinating!! So I assume you just condition the birds with long loft flying then?

@@RFRP Hi, not sure what you mean by "long loft flying" Our widowhood cocks go out 6 o'clock (punctually) in the morning and 5 o'clock in the afternoon for approx. 1 hour. They don't go out if weather conditions are unfavourable. In the beginning of the week (after race) they fly about 20 minutes and stay in sight. Then, when condition starts to come back again, they'll fly longer and longer and stay out of sight longer and come back individually. Just to fight and chase eachother on the roof, regroup again and go for about half an our again. In the end of the week they'll fly about one hour. (If not we have a problem on our hands). So the birds NEVER are oubliged to fly. Widowhood cocks in good condition love to fly fast and energetically. Most beautiful sight in the world: a band of widowhood cocks cutting through a light early morning mist. P.S. English is not my first language, so please if you don't understand: ask.

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This is true. Thanks