Fitbit Versa Lite: Unboxing, Tech Specs, First Run, Comparisons!

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DC Rainmaker

DC Rainmaker

5 жыл бұрын

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Here's your first hands-on look at the new Fitbit Versa Lite smartwatch. I do a complete unboxing, then compare it against the existing Versa, plus I detail all the tech specs. After which we head out for a run to test it against the Apple Watch and Garmin Forerunner 935 watch, for both optical heart rate and GPS accuracy.
Stay tuned for more, including my Fitbit Inspire and Inspire HR posts, as well the Fitbit ACE2 post/video.
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@Dcrainmaker
@Dcrainmaker 5 жыл бұрын
Hey folks - thanks for watching! Don't forget to hit up my longer post as well here - dcra.in/FitbitVersaLite - as it also includes those data sets and plenty more details/analysis!
@zechariahwoodward234
@zechariahwoodward234 4 жыл бұрын
Im trying to sync mine up but when my phone finds it, it kicks me out
@christinebowling6432
@christinebowling6432 4 жыл бұрын
DC Rainmaker hi wondered if you could help me ,how do I'm restart my versa lite, I've tried but on my phone screen for the last 12 hrs it reads data not cleared ,but how do I move on from that screen.HELP.
@davisharris139
@davisharris139 5 жыл бұрын
It was a great presentation, I think just a little slower speaking. On the whole a great way to learn about a new gift, I received from my son! I am 79 years old and very active! this will be a great way to track all my activities. Thank you!
@Indasaid
@Indasaid 5 жыл бұрын
Just heard about the Lite, am happy with my Versa. DCR my go to for Garmin and all things running for years. Cool to find you covering the Lite. As always, your detailed review is appreciated!
@littleangels85
@littleangels85 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome review, thanks!
@sillydreamz89
@sillydreamz89 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for an amazing review and unboxing video
@estefania5140
@estefania5140 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video the charts awesome work. Is there a specific tracker you recommend that is economic and haa a chest strap?
@nataliechavero4652
@nataliechavero4652 5 жыл бұрын
His dude be running and talking lol I would’ve needed my inhaler. Cool vid tho
@ruth000
@ruth000 5 жыл бұрын
I WAS ABOUT TO SAY THE SAME THING. LOL.
@truly3743
@truly3743 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video!! You would make a great auctioneer!! Good thing for slo-mo
@nxel2
@nxel2 5 жыл бұрын
For a once a week runner and doing calestenics 3 times a week which one to get? Versa lite, 645 music or VA3 music? I'm interested in recovery metrics and sleep... Hard decision. Thanks!
@Will-ol9lp
@Will-ol9lp 5 жыл бұрын
Thank u for correctly answering my question. The first person did have a clue about what I was asking. Thank u for having a clue
@aaronbueno1653
@aaronbueno1653 4 жыл бұрын
Who are you talking to?
@onepickaxeboi_yt4926
@onepickaxeboi_yt4926 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@komalthecoolk
@komalthecoolk 5 жыл бұрын
What's the deal with the SPO2 sensor? Will it ever work?
@jondotcom8706
@jondotcom8706 5 жыл бұрын
I'm waiting for the Versa to hit holiday price points again to buy more to gift.
@god1246
@god1246 4 жыл бұрын
Its $99 right now
@MrKen-wy5dk
@MrKen-wy5dk 4 жыл бұрын
All the missing features are exactly the features that my wife is not interested in. That's why I bought her the Versa Lite from Amazon for $128.82 with tax, same day delivery. Thank you for this extremely informative video. Thumbs UP!
@MrKen-wy5dk
@MrKen-wy5dk 4 жыл бұрын
Just a PS to my above comment: My wife is Dutch-Indonesian, she had Dutch citizenship before becoming an American, and she loved seeing you in The Netherlands. I've subscribed.
@the_3inpro136
@the_3inpro136 4 жыл бұрын
My dad told me the white band get messy so I had to get blue but I LOVE IT!!!! sorry but I LOVE IT!!!!!!!
@sarahredmond7357
@sarahredmond7357 5 жыл бұрын
But fitbit lite doesn't track swimming.they should of kept that feature cause I would buy it then
@amandapeterson790
@amandapeterson790 4 жыл бұрын
Hey thanks!! I just got this for Christmas and I'm not tech savy at all. My step-mom laughed when I didn't know that my phone could connect to Bluetooth. But she said that this thing can get text messages and that I can answer them? How. I found, on the app, how to make pre-done text messages back to a text but my texts aren't showing up on the watch, only on my phone. Can you answer? Thank you and Merry Christmas!
@MsLawrence321
@MsLawrence321 5 жыл бұрын
Hello can you track floors climbed? I'm trying to upgrade my Blaze only because the screen cracked , and I don't wanna spend 200 bucks on my fitness tracker thanks !
@jayruns6425
@jayruns6425 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome Review DC, question for you. What was the armband that you where using for your run and do they have it for a iPhone 8 Plus
@Dcrainmaker
@Dcrainmaker 5 жыл бұрын
It’s called SwitchLoc, and is currently on a Kickstarter, though soon Indiegogo: www.dcrainmaker.com/2019/02/switchlok-sports-system.html
@jayruns6425
@jayruns6425 5 жыл бұрын
DC Rainmaker thanks 🙏🤙
@couponqueen5089
@couponqueen5089 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting, can you tell me if you have to sync. Will it track daily without a sync? I want to get for my 85 year old.
@Classic_kay_44
@Classic_kay_44 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@audreyhilton4570
@audreyhilton4570 5 жыл бұрын
Just bought the Versa Lite, my HR sensors do not light up. Are they supposed to? I've looked for the advertisement commercials and photos and it doesn't look like they are lit up either. I'm wondering if I received a faulty product. I'm also having difficulties getting any notifications from my iPhone to the device.
@peterjones-stanley4295
@peterjones-stanley4295 5 жыл бұрын
The best fitbit out there is the charge 3 i think
@livehangoutswithshorty
@livehangoutswithshorty 4 жыл бұрын
Can I do it even if I only have Wi-Fi on my smart phone my phone is not connected right now
@jondotcom8706
@jondotcom8706 5 жыл бұрын
They are just missing a Versa Heavy, seriously. Edge-to-edge display, GPS, and NFC are a must.
@Dcrainmaker
@Dcrainmaker 5 жыл бұрын
I believe that's called the Ionic. ;)
@jondotcom8706
@jondotcom8706 5 жыл бұрын
Definitely can't be as ugly as the Ionic! I threw up in my mouth the first time I saw it.
@jondotcom8706
@jondotcom8706 5 жыл бұрын
This is coming from someone who has purchased FIVE fitbits (chargeHR, charge3, and three versas).
@rocksteady3911
@rocksteady3911 5 жыл бұрын
How to setup faces?
@daddydeeper4271
@daddydeeper4271 5 жыл бұрын
Would of loved to know that they would make a 50 dollar less version of the Fitbit verse in more colors. That makes me mad.
@ciankelly7076
@ciankelly7076 3 жыл бұрын
I have the verse lite aswell but I cant see the map even though my Gps is on and it doesnt show the hole run result, as in it doesnt show the full km/miles I ran or the full time I ran for.If you could tell ny why that would be great
@catdcambs
@catdcambs 4 жыл бұрын
can you sync the versa lite to a laptop, using Bluetooth only not wifi?
@brandonboyer524
@brandonboyer524 5 жыл бұрын
The regular Versa typically goes on sale for about $160 so I expect this one to be about $120 with sales witch would make it a no brainer.
@navysealteam5584
@navysealteam5584 5 жыл бұрын
The Fitbit versa lite edition is $159.99
@vapor7653
@vapor7653 5 жыл бұрын
Central_NC Chickens not in Colorado it’s 120$
@navysealteam5584
@navysealteam5584 5 жыл бұрын
@@vapor7653 oh wow ok ...
@yenthib7439
@yenthib7439 5 жыл бұрын
Brandon Boyer I got mines for £154
@bevgarvey8477
@bevgarvey8477 5 жыл бұрын
Which app did you put on phone
@Karelife
@Karelife 5 жыл бұрын
I didn't quite catch your reference to HR and sleep. Do I need a HR to monitor my sleep patterns? Thank you for a very detailed video. Oh does this work with my Samsung note 9?
@penguiz23
@penguiz23 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, fitbit tracks sleep by tracking both your movement and heart-rate.
@daddydeeper4271
@daddydeeper4271 5 жыл бұрын
Pretty much every Fitbit monitors your sleep other then the original Alta. Also the band less fitbits.
@peterlittlehorse
@peterlittlehorse 4 жыл бұрын
does this have the challenge feature
@uchennabonny-okoli8465
@uchennabonny-okoli8465 2 жыл бұрын
I'm having issues updating, it doesn't get past 1% (I see the red X on the watch) I use a Samsung phone. Do I have to plug the watch to power to update, even though the battery has been fully charged?
@rescand2
@rescand2 4 жыл бұрын
Is there an app for emergency messaging or calling for the versa lite?
@diegoschwartz4950
@diegoschwartz4950 5 жыл бұрын
very nice review ! cheers from brazil ! 👊🏾🙏🏾
@Dave-km3ep
@Dave-km3ep 4 жыл бұрын
If it doesn't notice when we climb stairs then what happens to those calories burned?
@Will-ol9lp
@Will-ol9lp 5 жыл бұрын
Do u need a chest strap with the Garmin ? Does the chest strap give u the data for the computer to show u the increase and decrease heart rate? Thanks Will
@mrjoshuagordon
@mrjoshuagordon 5 жыл бұрын
He had a garmin HRM dual on hist chest. The garmin 935 was connected to that.
@Trenta002
@Trenta002 5 жыл бұрын
You can't wear more than one heart rate monitor per wrist or they start interfering with each other. The Garmin can track heart rate without the chest strap but he already had watches on both wrists so the chest strap was required to make sure everything was accurate.
@Dcrainmaker
@Dcrainmaker 5 жыл бұрын
Trenta002 Yup, exactly what Trenta said.
@hipdadiddy
@hipdadiddy 4 жыл бұрын
OK, (sigh) my Fitbit app screen (on a google android) doesn't look anything like his and I can find NO way to add my new watch. Help??
@deianwilliams5641
@deianwilliams5641 3 жыл бұрын
Can you put your run on strava??
@fatimahassan5903
@fatimahassan5903 5 жыл бұрын
Icant connect the watch to the phone why?
@justtalia7114
@justtalia7114 4 жыл бұрын
I got one of these as a birthday gift yesterday! Hope i’m allowed to wear it to school 🤨
@onlycoolaviation7686
@onlycoolaviation7686 4 жыл бұрын
Just Talia are u in New Zealand I might know you
@justtalia7114
@justtalia7114 4 жыл бұрын
RaiderZill I’m partly Australian, if that counts. Otherwise, no because I live on the other side of the world.
@onlycoolaviation7686
@onlycoolaviation7686 4 жыл бұрын
Ok
@lamedakelly2081
@lamedakelly2081 5 жыл бұрын
I have every thang set up ony fit bit inspire but phone went dead before I got the code can I get it with out going threw set up again?
@Dcrainmaker
@Dcrainmaker 5 жыл бұрын
It’ll simply prompt you again for it. No biggie.
@nancygomez3701
@nancygomez3701 5 жыл бұрын
I’m wanting buy one but on the box it says large will it have a small extra watch band ?
@Dcrainmaker
@Dcrainmaker 5 жыл бұрын
Yup! Both are included in the box.
@woodsybrum
@woodsybrum 3 жыл бұрын
You didn't mention anything about accuracy of steps and calories?
@lashondrarobinson7430
@lashondrarobinson7430 4 жыл бұрын
How do you add apps and change the wallpaper??
@marialakshmi2330
@marialakshmi2330 4 жыл бұрын
In settings.
@biscuitbaby100
@biscuitbaby100 5 жыл бұрын
Hey, I have a question. Does the Fitbit verse lite track sleep?
@Dcrainmaker
@Dcrainmaker 5 жыл бұрын
Yup!
@hanathai4950
@hanathai4950 5 жыл бұрын
DC Rainmaker what about the silent alarm?
@marialakshmi2330
@marialakshmi2330 4 жыл бұрын
@@hanathai4950 yes, alarms too.
@emilymcbride4858
@emilymcbride4858 4 жыл бұрын
I might be getting this for my birthday
@squaredogsolutions
@squaredogsolutions 4 жыл бұрын
cool!!! I hope you got it if thats what you wanted
@inesghils6788
@inesghils6788 5 жыл бұрын
Hello ! Thank you for the video, it was really well done ! I am interested in buying a fitbit versa watch but can't decide between the normal one or the lite edition :) i honestly don't care about the music et nfc difference, but i am about the altitude thing. But, as i intend to use my watch with Strava, i was wondering if the altitude was then going to be included via my phone (if i choose the connected gps for my run , if i got this right) ? I don't know if i'm explaining clearly as english isn't my first language ;) Anyways, thank you for the video, and it would be great if you could give me an answer :D Have a nice day!
@SamK-fn6xq
@SamK-fn6xq 11 ай бұрын
Hi, bluetooth pairing not working on my versa lite. Tried everything on the internet, but to no avail. Has anyone faced this issue? Any help? #fitbit
@davidsimons5764
@davidsimons5764 5 жыл бұрын
They have such good products.i love my dependable fitbit. I like to think of myself as an athlete.
@theinteresting593
@theinteresting593 4 жыл бұрын
I have it
@majorskies7091
@majorskies7091 5 жыл бұрын
Instead of making a Versa 2, they make this...
@Dcrainmaker
@Dcrainmaker 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's interesting. I think business wise it's a brilliant product. It basically recognizes that the Versa sold extremely well at the $150-$160 price point on sales the last 3-4 months, and that they could sell a similiar product well at that price too. Given that nobody else actually competes in that price bucket (mainstream anyways), it's surprisingly smart for the company that often seems to miss the trends.
@majorskies7091
@majorskies7091 5 жыл бұрын
@@Dcrainmaker Business wise, I guess so. I was looking at it tho as a power user. I would of so loved a Versa 2 with a more edge to edge display, GPS and even maybe actual phone call taking.
@Dcrainmaker
@Dcrainmaker 5 жыл бұрын
@@majorskies7091 Yeah, I agree there. I think one of the things they're finding (along with Garmin) is that if you're not the phone manufacturer, it's really hard to do LTE-connected wearables well. The catches are too great. For example on Garmin's VA3 LTE, it's useless for texting as an iOS user. You can't share iMessage onto it, so you have to have a second secret number that everyone knows (or disable it).
@JorgeFlores-jr3mz
@JorgeFlores-jr3mz 5 жыл бұрын
Instead of releasing a new Ionic they release these 😭😭😭. I wanna upgrade
@gzmichaelmob
@gzmichaelmob 5 жыл бұрын
Dont worry.. Versa 2 will come i predict somewhere near August ;) They just want to sell some more parts of Versa for now. Im sure they are developing also Versa 2 ;)
@EmeraldRubyTea
@EmeraldRubyTea 5 жыл бұрын
Are you in Amsterdam?
@Dcrainmaker
@Dcrainmaker 5 жыл бұрын
Yup, I live here.
@HowlingWolves77
@HowlingWolves77 5 жыл бұрын
Can the original Versa control music on my phone rather than stored music on the watch? That's literally all I wanna know about this watch. Apple and Android users, I would love to hear your feedback for both types of phones.
@jaciareyes92
@jaciareyes92 5 жыл бұрын
Wolf Hawk yes you can control music from your watch just hold the left button when playing music and you can turn up and down the music or change songs :)
@bussekas
@bussekas 5 жыл бұрын
What phone did you use to connect Versa Lite?
@Dcrainmaker
@Dcrainmaker 5 жыл бұрын
iPhone X
@bussekas
@bussekas 5 жыл бұрын
@@Dcrainmaker Fitbit Versa have almost over year problem with Android phone. GPS not working most time in Android 9. But with Iphone 5s i have notice Versa and bt headphones does not work same time.
@daddydeeper4271
@daddydeeper4271 5 жыл бұрын
My versa has lots of trouble connecting and staying connected to my iPhone 8 I don’t know why.
@ThePsmith1985
@ThePsmith1985 5 жыл бұрын
DC Rainmaker can iPhones still not reply to messages on the Versa lite?
5 жыл бұрын
No swim traking? Even a $30 Honor band 4 has that. Why?
@oliviaharon8619
@oliviaharon8619 5 жыл бұрын
Original versa does I use this feature a lot and I personally love it
@margitadelac4844
@margitadelac4844 3 жыл бұрын
Then buy the Honor band for 30$
@the_3inpro136
@the_3inpro136 4 жыл бұрын
Large band looks smaller
@princeryanl2471
@princeryanl2471 4 жыл бұрын
Does it have fitbit pay?
@marialakshmi2330
@marialakshmi2330 4 жыл бұрын
No.
@Drxpy-kf3bt
@Drxpy-kf3bt 5 жыл бұрын
Does it have games
@mattsam934
@mattsam934 5 жыл бұрын
Ninja yes some
@lewishendson3042
@lewishendson3042 4 жыл бұрын
I need anything else is a fitbit l need please
@georgia5725
@georgia5725 4 жыл бұрын
Can u message of it if it is connected to an iPad?
@anushkaasinha6259
@anushkaasinha6259 4 жыл бұрын
Jelly Bean if you have a email then I think so
@GadgetGreg
@GadgetGreg 4 жыл бұрын
no you can't you can only do smart reply on android and that is about it. hope this helps!
@alsuwaidi2
@alsuwaidi2 5 жыл бұрын
Have GPS.???
@gezzapk
@gezzapk 5 жыл бұрын
No
@davidsimons5764
@davidsimons5764 5 жыл бұрын
I don’t really like the fitness band look.i would take a Watch any day.
@Will-ol9lp
@Will-ol9lp 5 жыл бұрын
That’s not what I was asking
@christymallesky8670
@christymallesky8670 4 жыл бұрын
Can u charge this on a pc
@Dcrainmaker
@Dcrainmaker 4 жыл бұрын
Yes
@sumayya003
@sumayya003 4 жыл бұрын
Oh
@Jay-rd6fe
@Jay-rd6fe 3 жыл бұрын
pretty good english ,would have not guessed you're dutch
@alexandermatveev6081
@alexandermatveev6081 5 жыл бұрын
Xiaomi Amazfit bip with display always on, continues heart rate monitoring, all notification does one month easily on one charge,20 hours with gps on and cost $60.16 months in use and no battery deterioration.
@rfp111
@rfp111 5 жыл бұрын
hello fellow amazfit bip user! after experiencing 30 days of battery life after a charge, I cannot accept a 4 day battery life. My sleep monitoring and HR info is very accurate because it is worth 30 days of data.
@jondotcom8706
@jondotcom8706 5 жыл бұрын
Serious privacy issues with knock-offs. You are probably kidding though.
@eireyc9332
@eireyc9332 4 жыл бұрын
Is it waterproof ?
@Dcrainmaker
@Dcrainmaker 4 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@eireyc9332
@eireyc9332 4 жыл бұрын
Cool
@Bubbaxmonster
@Bubbaxmonster 5 жыл бұрын
Is it 170$ after tax? USA
@Dcrainmaker
@Dcrainmaker 5 жыл бұрын
Pre-tax, tax varies by state. Some states have no sales tax.
@Stefanosinf
@Stefanosinf 5 жыл бұрын
Nice review, as always! (I think you should reverse the overhead camera 180 degrees, so you don't break the 180 degree rule. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/eMiRatWSuNzagqM.html - For the wide views. The close ups are Ok! )
@HugoCarrollq
@HugoCarrollq 5 жыл бұрын
It’s not waterproof to 50m it’s water resistance to 50
@Dcrainmaker
@Dcrainmaker 5 жыл бұрын
Umm, that's no difference. Not using the term 'waterproof is merely legal jargon avoidance. Water resistance is safer for organizations, but it's also a cop-out. There are zero standards around the usage of either term at any level.
@Rhino-ux7yf
@Rhino-ux7yf 5 жыл бұрын
I thought it tracked your sleeping ???
@Zaki-hr3ol
@Zaki-hr3ol 4 жыл бұрын
Ryan Belcher it does track ur sleep
@theinteresting593
@theinteresting593 4 жыл бұрын
Ya I does
@sumayya003
@sumayya003 4 жыл бұрын
!
@garyparker6537
@garyparker6537 4 жыл бұрын
My app was different than yours
@garybc
@garybc 5 жыл бұрын
I’m afraid for the color... had an orange ionic and, one month in, its color had faded. Messaged Fitbit. They replied it’s normal wear-and-tear... after one freaking month!!!
@Dcrainmaker
@Dcrainmaker 5 жыл бұрын
Fear not, plenty of other colors to choose from. :)
@rorystorm4284
@rorystorm4284 5 жыл бұрын
I think there are only 3 colors, total. Not "plenty."
@Dcrainmaker
@Dcrainmaker 5 жыл бұрын
@@rorystorm4284 Four colors actually, and then half a dozen different strap colors before you get into the fancier bands.
@marialakshmi2330
@marialakshmi2330 4 жыл бұрын
My peach Versa color faded quickly too. I didn't mind the lighter faded peach, but I swapped to gray when it died and I exchanged it. Then my gray Versa died and I exchanged it for a Mulberry Versa Lite two days ago.
@megwerner9022
@megwerner9022 5 жыл бұрын
*how does he hold the camera so still when he’s running*
@Dcrainmaker
@Dcrainmaker 5 жыл бұрын
Haha...many years of practice. :) Also, the GoPro Hero 7 Black has pretty good stabilization.
@julianarodriguez3635
@julianarodriguez3635 4 жыл бұрын
Fitbit shamika better charger
@mxmus08
@mxmus08 5 жыл бұрын
You can get the fitbit versa for the same price as the lite. 🤔
@Dcrainmaker
@Dcrainmaker 5 жыл бұрын
On sale, true. Though, most of the year it's not on sale. And I suspect going forward when we see other Fitbit sales, the Versa Lite will drop further.
@davehayter312
@davehayter312 5 жыл бұрын
Dude! You video is upside down during the unboxing.
@Dcrainmaker
@Dcrainmaker 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it was either upside-down for the box, or upside-down for the watch. Didn't fully think that through - so had to pick one. :-/
@rachellelazore8856
@rachellelazore8856 4 жыл бұрын
Rachelle ? New Fitbit on in water 💦
@terryhenry62
@terryhenry62 5 жыл бұрын
Battery life is very poor only 21/2 days with all things turned off.
@marilynnsmith2636
@marilynnsmith2636 4 жыл бұрын
You speak so fast and there seems to be a number of apps, which one do I use.?
@salt7379
@salt7379 4 жыл бұрын
Microphone.. your echoing
@schieffisclestick4873
@schieffisclestick4873 4 жыл бұрын
Am I the only person who thinks he looks like ladbaby??
@lewishendson3042
@lewishendson3042 4 жыл бұрын
I'm poor
@lewis9950
@lewis9950 4 жыл бұрын
I feel ya
@Fed08Roger
@Fed08Roger 5 жыл бұрын
Tomtom > Fitbit
@Dcrainmaker
@Dcrainmaker 5 жыл бұрын
True in terms of devices (though not software). Unfortunately, TomTom is longer in the wearables business.
@martynwilliams9610
@martynwilliams9610 3 жыл бұрын
Good presentation, but you speak far too quickly. Too much information in rapid bursts.
@christymallesky8670
@christymallesky8670 4 жыл бұрын
Slow down
@thisandthat5757
@thisandthat5757 5 жыл бұрын
I wish Apple would allow the Apple Watch to work with other phones, and put all of these stupid companies out of their misery. Rather than improving, these idiots went backwards!!
@marialakshmi2330
@marialakshmi2330 4 жыл бұрын
But Apple watches don't do sleep tracking. That is why I just upgraded to a Versa Lite rather than Apple watch.
@sumayya003
@sumayya003 4 жыл бұрын
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@mb7871
@mb7871 5 жыл бұрын
Versa watches are JUNK!!!! I had mine for 2 months and it died, got another and 4 months later did the same thing. My ALTA worked so much better!
@brendaperez8581
@brendaperez8581 4 жыл бұрын
Please slow down talking, please
@wponsingh
@wponsingh 5 жыл бұрын
Versa worst While driving it show step count and its on table is showing heartbeat, pls don't buy this wast of money wrong information gives all.
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