To quote Devon Pinto "That is not an advantage!" 😂

everyone on the island thought Jamal’s legacy advantage was real, We even heard Tommy and Janet express those sentiments on the show. Jamal must have immaculate penmanship

Chrissy's advantage should have been given at the merge. That would have actually been a really good advantage. The knowledge of how the final 4 mechanics changed when it was still the final 13/12, unbeknownst to everyone else. They can choose or choose not to share that info with other players. They can start practicing how to make fire if didn't know how. They can start planning it out until that game mechanic is revealed to the players maybe at the final 4 immunity challenge.

i will never understand why what happened to jamal, happened. probably the most baffling production decision ever

They really did Jamal dirty, huh? Even if you must make him lose a vote, at least give him more than a Gabon winning strategy as compensation. Like, have it so that the fake advantage he gets on the island ‘also’ makes someone lose their vote if they attempt to play it, so he at least has the opportunity to re-level the playing field with enough clever strategy.

The way you described the Knowledge is Power is exactly as I would describe it. Overpowered since idols were public knowledge in 41 and 42, but the fact that both times it blew up in the owners face in glorious fashion, is what makes it so funny. I mean, Xander's duke on Liana is for sure the most iconic moment of the new era. Xander was never going to win, but the phrase "No, but you can have this fake." Cemented him as a huge fan favorite, and made a seriously iconic moment.

Actually, a vote stealer could be more valuable than an idol in some situations. If your alliance is down by 1 vote, playing an idol is a gamble, because you have to make sure it’s on the right person, whereas stealing a vote guarantees your success by giving you the numbers.

sometimes I think idoled out videos are just dead relatives coming to say hi

In the Adam segment, specifically around 10:16-10:22, I was trying to place the guy in blue sitting next to Adam. I couldn't place him at all and even looked at the wiki contestant page before realizing it was a family visit episode. Silly me. And I will never not believe that the Final 4 Fire making is one of the worst ideas Survivor has had (justice for Chrissy, Devon and Ryan!).

“Things that sucked the first time around have been given many second chances on survivor” *shows Varner* LMFAO

That surprise fire making challenge was such bullshit. I'm more okay with it now since players know about it and can base their strategy around it, but to have it be a surprise like that totally screwed over Chrissy, Devon, and Ryan. That's a surprise you need to announce early in the season. I can't help but feel like it was set up for Ben at least a little bit. Especially with Jeff saying over the years that Ben is one of his favorite winners. It's the only time I truly felt like the game was rigged for a player.

I know that the gamebotification of Survivor means the "Steal a Reward" advantage is essentially useless and will never get use, but I *WISH* we lived in an alternate universe where it existed in the early seasons of Survivor. The idea of Jerri or Johnny FairPlay or Stephanie (in Guatemala) or Penner using this is just such a beautiful thought, and you just KNOW that Hantz would've used the hell out of this advantage if it had existed in Samoa or HvV. But also like, so many classic seasons (Africa and China both especially come to mind) had genuinely amazing rewards that would've been worth stealing - burn a bridge to go see the Great Wall of China or go on a hot air balloon safari? Hell yeah. But in a era of gamebots, everyone being overly aware of not being on each others downsides, and 99.9% of advantages being completely ass? Yeah, no potential anymore :(

Survivor 42 is a fun season in retrospect for one of the following reasons: Not playing your Idol at final 5: Game winning move Not playing your Idol at final 6: Game ending move

The outcry over the KIP advantage was for how easily it was found. It was specifically HANDED to Liana.

Haven't watched the video yet but I'm predicting that Tony's Extortion "advantage," F4 Firemaking (specifically Chrissy's), and Jamal's"advantage" are gonna be on here EDIT: Well I got two right

I know this isn’t designed by producers, but a lot of advantages become curses when they become public knowledge. Like Lauren telling everyone she has an extra vote. Not sure if that was necessary strategically, but a lot of people considered voting her out for that reason

The amulet advantage and so many of the new era advantages are a curse because each one takes so much screen time to explain! And then re-explain, and re-explain. Screen time that used to be given to camp life and reward challenges are now being given to re-explaining how someone *still* doesn’t have a vote, they have a fake idol, or whatever it might be.

12:04 Luke, this part made me die laughing hahah Love your sense of humor

Thank you for all the hard work you put into these videos! Love watching them, and laughing alongside. Survivor is a niche thing and nowadays no one else under 25 watches, especially the golden, older seasons. Your humor perfectly coincides with what I am already thinking, but have yet to articulate with words 😂 my wife and I love it. thanks Luke for all you do!

My favorite part of every Sunday besides church. Love the content!

Knowledge Is Power is more than a curse on their finders, but it's a curse on gameplay as a whole in the new era! People are forced and even incentivized to play more conservatively because of the sheer threat that it could be in the game, and it sort of just... stifles gameplay. To be fair to it though, KIP has always been a source of entertainment across the new era. The Yase self-implosion. Omar's blindside against Drea. Jeanine and Dwight playing advantage hot potato. Kane getting voted off with Jaime's fake idol. Like, it's a horrible advantage, but dang has it provided great TV.

Thank you. This channel is incredible

I make that “that’s good, that’s bad” Treehouse of Horrors reference all the time in my real life and no one ever gets it 😂 so glad to finally see someone else use it, great reference!

The knowledge is power advantage reminds me of most fantasy games, shows and movies. If an ability is overpowered, it will never be used OR it will be used on someone irrelevant

The problem with Knowledge is Power is that every person to ever find it tells someone about it and in turn gets played by the rest of the group collectively. You get to stop tribal and steal an advantage/idol, and still get to bluff if you’re even playing what you just stole. It’s like a super advantage, like the idol played after votes it’s just a power people fear.

The Simpsons references never fail to make me crack a smile or laugh.

It would be cool to see an overview of each kind of curse that has happened in the show’s history :)

Instead of pizza rewards, there should be frogurt rewards (that's good), to spice things up and to counteract the curses (that's bad.)

The thing you said at the end of knowledge is power segment was the essence of knowledge witch is wisdom.😊

Remember when the hid knowledge is power in the well water, that makes me extra annoyed with Jamal’s fake advantage

In addition, due to Knowledge is power being a thing, many players start playing safe rather than make big moves, I think Matt from 44 said this in an interview

“That is not an advantage.”

Man people would’ve considered Ben a god if he had gone home at 4. Crazy how things can change on a dime

Man, watching this video really hits home everything I can't stand about recent seasons lmao

Hey Luke! I was thinking about 41 and how contestants kept saying that it's the hardest Survivor has ever been. Have you thought about making a video ranking the top five (or ten) hardest seasons of Survivor?

Have you ever done a history of Survivor Curses?

Knowledge is Power is the Regigigas/Slaking of Survivor. It's designed to be super powerful but then they add one slight twist that takes away every ounce of its potential power

I think knowledge is power hasn't worked in a literal sense but it has led to interesting shuffles and people leaving with other's advantages. I like the idea

The first one, the “three person evolving advantage” *could* lead to some extremely impressive gameplay where you give yours to someone else to incentivize voting them out of the game if you can convince the other two. But that would take such insane gameplay/stars aligning that it’s functionally impossible. It’d lock my jury vote though

I like the threat of the knowledge of power due to so many players sharing the secret of their idols and advantages with the tribe. I want more secrecy.

Don't you mean heroes vs also heroes vs people that sound like they would rob me

Knowledge is power just immediately makes you the most dangerous person, and humans tend to destroy dangerous things...

KNOWLEDGE IS POWER BETTER BE ON HERE 😂

Okay, so I have to comment on this one, because you brought up the fact that twists usually get two tries, and I agree 100% on the Amulet being the perfect advantage to incentivise conflict (#doitforthesandwich) but I want to bring up a hot take of mine with how two twists everyone seems to hate could be good if put together. One World and Earn the Merge are both twists that would uniquely work extremely well together if both were used all season. Start with every player on the same beach, no tribe until the jury phase, and each episode the winning team of random players just leaves camp to go on reward, while the others stay to vote. In the era of voting blocks and shorter season, I think this could work shockingly well.

Jamal did as good a job as anyone could making that thing look as legit as possible. Bob could've tore the paper up and make is own fake from scratch, I guess, though lol

Did you/can you do a list about the Survivor curses you mentioned? You can list them by your opinion of banal to deadly curses in the show while also explaining what each are... I'm really curious what each of them mean.

The knowledge is power definitely brings you a target on you back if used right or wrong but the only way the knowledge is power a good thing to use if your using it to take a super idol that is out there in the game

I like what you said about the stew

I think part of the reason knowledge is power users are targeted it that its an inherently offensive advantage compared to an idol that is more defesive in nature

They brought back the amulet 🧿

The last one would be like if you just found an advantage that was like "You're out of the game"

except it F4 firemaking was implemented to save give Ben a shot. They already had it in mind the previous seasons and implemented it because of Ben. source was someone in the previous 2 seasons (Zeke?)

Final 4 fire making was definitely put into works to help Ben. That season had production interference written all over it. And producers have directed seasons to go how they want in the past. It’s obvious

Ceremonial bathing in blood 😂😂

The fake advantage feels way to obvious like I be 🙅‍♀️ suspicious

KIP is the reason Jesse was able to regain possession of Cody’s idol and this season the reason Jaime lost her “idol” just the fact it’s out there has players trying to play around it, even when it’s not a factor.

I'd actually put some thought into the best way to use the Reward Steal. And I definitely agree that giving it to someone else is the best option, but if for some reason that isn't allowed, here's my thought. Publicly admit you have it and say that, as long as the next reward isn't the family visit, you're going to use it, but you promise to bring the winner of the challenge with you. It's not perfect, especially since it only works for challenges won individually with people then picked to go on reward, but it's the best option available in my eyes if you can't give it away or let it expire

Another new curse on Survivor is winning standalone individual reward challenges. Everyone in the new era who won one of these and didn't also win the next immunity challenge was voted out at the next Tribal Council: Omar in 42, Noelle in 43 and now Frannie in 44.

I doubt this will ever happen, but wouldn't it be cool if a KIP holder was able to either get a view or a thorough description of someone's idol, make a convincing replica, use their KIP to steal the idol, then later in the Tribal (but before the vote), prematurely give Jeff the fake "idol" (similar to Dom in Ghost Island) under the guise of not wanting to have the target on their back? You get a free idol and dodge the disadvantage of everyone knowing you have it because they think you played it.

I think Taku from 42 broke to orange curse. Mainly because of Jonathan Amazing

9:11 - are you sure about that? Because if it wasn’t, there was no reason to hide it from the players until that point. Production didn’t hide the info of Redemption Island or the rule change on tied votes in s34. In all honesty, it really does seem like it was added last minute to save Ben, and only kept to cover up that fact. It’s also reinforced by the idols being hidden worse than Rapunzel’s hair.

Survivor Island of idols me and mom was watching it and when Jamel got the note! We both very happen for him! Finally someone decent catch a break and not the worst player ever Dan and his crew! Then when we have it was lose your vote! I was like come on really Jamel! However my mom was like really so you two legends wouldn’t grab it! Yes you both would grab and she not happy! My mom was like so this is disadvantage then! I was like I don’t their have these! She was like well it was just created right now! Since then any other bad advantage we called it disadvantage!

No mention about Tony's extortion despite him pulling that off and paying the ransom? Though I guess it was technically Natalie's advantage rather than Tony's disadvantage

What a great fun Simpsons reference!

Can anyone elaborate on the title/intro curse? Haven't heard of this one!

Tagi season 1 was an orange tribe and they had the original final four alliance

Maybe if people STOP telling others about their know,edge is power!!

The Simpsons reference was PERFECT

11:03 "Smart enough to just let it expire"? Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Ron, by default, just NOT ABLE to use it? He didn't "let it expire" because he wasn't able to activate any advantage in the advantage menu because he never went to any premerge tribals.

reliving the hhh bs that was the final four firemaking twist is SO INFURIATING, calling it an advantage for chrissy is SO INSULTING???? it's okay that ben won but i will always believe that production gave it to him and it was 100% unfair for the other 3, especially since she only knew like 20 seconds before tribal

Poor Jamal

I may be alone in this, but can someone tell me who the guy in the blue shirt is at @10:42 I am genuinely at a loss as to who this guy is

4:17 what is the Intro Curse?

Intro curse and Orange Tribe cure? I don’t get it?

I would like curses if people were actually warry of them. It would stop people from just blindly looking for idols. Make the punishments harsher too

8:00 the amount of shit Ben has received for that upside down has to be more shit than anyone else has ever received for a grammatical error. Since all the "Ben is a bad winner" talk would be shut down otherwise

Ever feel like certain advantages were made to get a specific player out?

Yeah don't mention how Liana's KiP advantage was known about due to Shan spilling the beans in front of someone Liana didn't tell about it

9:14 😂😂

Knowledge is Power could be extremely effective if people didn't keep blabbing about finding it.

you spoke too soon about applebee's

Number 3 is actually a good advantage because it screwed Chrissy.

yea the first one is pretty bad, and the weakness of the concept is very easy to see. it doesn't bond them together at all haha would be interesting ti see how it develops if the benefit of the amuket would somehow DIMINISH when one of the other two has to leave. that would give it a very different dynamic.

It's called knowledge is power lol. Don't give away the knowledge that you have it. It's literally in the name.

Survivor is the one show where I feel like the producers, namely Jeff Probst, do not care or listen to what fans think. This is evident in the quick downfall of the show after H v H v H.

Not cursed (yet), but the fake idols from the bird cages of Season 44 were a disappointment

Eighth comment: *Rock Draw with Pascal was bogus*

Survivor 41 is one of the worst season ever in my opinion!Knowledge is power is one of the many reasons! Many other reasons as well! Knowledge is power can be used correct if just don’t tell anyone about it! It so easily but in new era of everyoen is nice to one has the ability to lied anymore! Unless your Jesse and Cody the only two new era player who is actually know how to played real 39 days Survivor!

Knowledge of knowledge is power is power. Lol

Idc what anyone says, the final 4 fire making challenge was definitely meant to save Ben. Production loved him and they came up with a last ditch effort to save him

Man Crissy disadvantage still hit hard, the way they want Ben to win are what’s makes me want to stop watching

first :))

The amulet advantage and so many of the new era advantages are a curse because each one takes so much screen time to explain! And then re-explain, and re-explain. Screen time that used to be given to camp life and reward challenges are now being given to re-explaining how someone *still* doesn’t have a vote, they have a fake idol, or whatever it might be.