Fixing a Carburettor with Modern Electronics

Fixing a Carburettor with Modern Electronics - THE SKID FACTORY

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2 жыл бұрын

Do carburettors need electronics or just a screwdriver and a tightly laced pair of New Balance sneakers?
In this episode of The Carby Factory we add a Haltech VMS and some essential sensors to Johns Turbo 351 Cleveland powered XC Falcon Ute in preparation for a return to the track.
The Haltech VMS controls the ignition system, boost control, transbrake and launch control and Nitrous control as well as fuel pumps and Thermo fans. It also data logs and sends data to the IC7 dash via CAN.
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@theskidfactory 2 жыл бұрын

Do carburettors need electronics or just a screwdriver and a tightly laced pair of New Balance sneakers? www.theskidfactory.com

@victormendoza871 2 жыл бұрын

Sneakers al sneakers.... if it requires more than a screwdriver sneakers for the win . Turbo fuel injection glory purity

@timsorensen2085 2 жыл бұрын

I think in Australia it’s Dunlop sk26s that are needed for foot wear

@TML34 2 жыл бұрын

And a hammer.

@K4rt80y 2 жыл бұрын

Na, mate. New Balance and jean shorties are for Corvettes.

@komodoensis-rex 2 жыл бұрын

All you need is the Hoff with a drill

@chedhead3278 2 жыл бұрын

After fixing my over filling toilet today (scale encrusted rubber seal fixed with a vinegar dip) I realise I was in fact 'tuning' the toilet. I shall not be adding boost. :)

@wirefortyseven8707 2 жыл бұрын

...maybe not today, maybe not tommorrow, but one fine day, the boost will surely come...

@bvward 2 жыл бұрын

@@wirefortyseven8707 All it takes is a stop at Taco Bell...

@simonilett998 2 жыл бұрын

I add boost to mine daily🤣👍🇦🇺

@dKJustwon 2 жыл бұрын

Love that new skid intro guys, perfection

@seancotter1965 2 жыл бұрын

The 'toasty' made me snort out my coffee, thanks... Nice to see the possibilities of adding the right technology!

@AJ-oj5eu 2 жыл бұрын

I too enjoyed the mortal Kombat video game reference. Is woody old enough to know what it meant though?

@DomsE36Garage 2 жыл бұрын

@@AJ-oj5eu Haha yeah, I picked up the MK reference too, it was spot on and made me chuckle

@Mrhotmetal1000 2 жыл бұрын

Can't wait to see The Hoff tune this by drilling out the jets like the rotary a while back.

@dpaterson42 2 жыл бұрын

Using the industry standard methods that the hoff is so good at! Fully calibrated drill bits!! Yew!!!!!!

@lemmy9996 2 жыл бұрын

Scotty is the man!!! Looking forward to that video!

@madrew2003 2 жыл бұрын

My thought exactly!

@twinshock175 2 жыл бұрын

Back in the day, my mates would drill out jets 2.5 times bigger on their speedway sidecar bikes for methanol.

@aretardridesmotard6128 2 жыл бұрын

Pro tip- you wont be nervous watching an oil guage if you don't have one. Even better, ground the sender so you get maximum pressure at all times. Stay tuned for more.

@Phrew 2 жыл бұрын

Or just do it like Subaru, Sender pulls signal to ground when no pressure. Disconnect signal from sender, never get low pressure.

@dan_2846 2 жыл бұрын

Sometimes this is actually true, the more guages you have the more you just stress about any slightly abnormal reading haha

@Rtechmobile 2 жыл бұрын

11.46 isn't close to enough Skid Factory goodness . Thanks for the vid boys .

@rafaelnf 2 жыл бұрын

As we say here in Brazil, just talking stupid for fun: "A carburetor is like fuel injection but wireless" hehehe

@cornishcat11 2 жыл бұрын

i have never heard that before... brilliant

@markdammes1947 2 жыл бұрын

Carbs are a barely controlled fuel leak!

@twinshock175 2 жыл бұрын

Toilet reference, brilliant.

@fatasford 2 жыл бұрын

@@markdammes1947 more like a livestock water bowl

@David-xl8zf 2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely brilliant. 👍

@mattjohns3394 2 жыл бұрын

Years ago, explaining to my girlfriend how carburettors work, she responded with "like a toilet?" After my initial indignant shock, I had to concede, Yes, like a toilet.

@yowie0889 2 жыл бұрын

But can rugby league players get photographed having a romantic moment with someone in a carby?

@ashleysharkey6406 2 жыл бұрын

There's a reason they call single point injection systems "Toilet bowl injection"

@lockjawjak 2 жыл бұрын

With the oil pressure on the gauge during each pull at the drags I would say a teardown is a great idea-along with a baffled sump!

@Engineerd3d 2 жыл бұрын

I can sense the love of a carb on this show.

@bjorn1583 2 жыл бұрын

they wont like coming to my workshop cos its all carbs

@IBOO57 2 жыл бұрын

You can tell Al has been watching plenty of Gale Banks with his love of "data"

@tchpandy 2 жыл бұрын

Whoa, plot twist! And yep: new intro is A1+

@UncleManuel 2 жыл бұрын

What a plot twist at the end! "We were heading to the dyno, but first we had to take the engine out." 😲😁🤪

@BubbaGTi 2 жыл бұрын

Toasty was nice touch but having Dan Forden appear at the side was beautiful 😂

@kc-nl8zc 2 жыл бұрын

Great Walter and Pinkman impression guys. Very interesting and informative content

@bradstanley116 2 жыл бұрын

As always, great explanations and knowledge given. Thanks, guys

@justin3131ify 2 жыл бұрын

Sick!!!!! Turbo Yoda may not be a fan of the carburetor, but I for one am thoroughly enjoying these episodes

@gregmyatt9932 2 жыл бұрын

Got to admit, despite all their short comings, the Clevos are the best sounding V8. Let the debate begin!

@bvward 2 жыл бұрын

A Cleveland with 4 Weber 2 bbl's is best...

@Gooie69 2 жыл бұрын

Hahaha not with an unmerged exhaust they don't.

@mattt83 2 жыл бұрын

100% correct , they sound great

@djhatton 2 жыл бұрын

maserati f136 is the most musical cross-plane i reckon

@redpepper7181 2 жыл бұрын

At full noise they’re an eargasm,, never gets old.

@bradsalmon8558 2 жыл бұрын

I remember as a kid trying to learn the difference between carby and efi.. dad was telling me how simple it was.. I would say its alright when you grow up with advancing technology you dont need to stuff it all in your head at once.. Now i know more than him lol

@JoeRocket-sf6qs 2 жыл бұрын

Tech will always advance,never retard, unless we have a world wide calamity.

@fendel_ 2 жыл бұрын

Grat new intro! Data is king! Looking forward to seeing inside a clevo!

@MookieZerang 2 жыл бұрын

Nice carby description. A controlled fuel leak :) Engagement! Algorithm!

@madrew2003 2 жыл бұрын

I run an MSD billet distributor fully locked out and advanced to 42 deg BTDC on my SBC. Then an MSD 6AL2 programmable timing box to handle all the delay vs rpm to get your timing curve. You can even hook up a MAP and program some vacuum advance. I haven't done that yet.

@TML34 2 жыл бұрын

You’re insane. Throw all that shit away and modernize it.

@madrew2003 2 жыл бұрын

@@TML34 been together like this for 10 years. If only I was less responsible or money grew on trees. Full blown EFI would cost more than the built SBC I have!

@ayycee5303 2 жыл бұрын

@@TML34 hahah best reply. All that tech he mentioned would’ve been fapped over in older street machine magazines 😂

@tonyanderson4774 2 жыл бұрын

Best ignition box going. Initially made for pro stock. Can do all the stuff Al mentioned in one simple box. No stacking of boxes. A programmable ignition curve on the fly, just like the Haltec. ability to trigger retards by 12 volt switched power. Very good bit of kit. Don’t listen to the knockers mate. Keep it old school.

@TML34 2 жыл бұрын

@@madrew2003 fair enough.

@9002alex 2 жыл бұрын

New intro is on point gents, matches the gold content in the video. 👍

@adman6380 2 жыл бұрын

Very informative and entertaining as usual boys

@lerrynhawke3375 2 жыл бұрын

Ahh the editing made me laugh hard!! Thanks woody!!!

@wade_asecond4666 2 жыл бұрын

when you guys started that weapon in the shed i had a mad max Vietnam flash back, it sounds identical to the interceptor!

@nickgrech9634 2 жыл бұрын

Great video guys!!

@OvertakingLane 2 жыл бұрын

Some great info guys 👍

@MarcSola7 2 жыл бұрын

1:23 I love how you guys put in the Mortal Kombat "TOASTY!" reference in there, I was laughing way too much on that.

@GLOBAL-INTIFADA 2 жыл бұрын

Love the new intro honestly much better

@wurlyone4685 2 жыл бұрын

Tuning with screwdriver? Surely you mean drill bit? 😁 Also very clever with the new intro btw.

@scottr9900 2 жыл бұрын

Very well put, Al.

@jahraizer250 2 жыл бұрын

The. " uhmm" cut. For the win

@TheosEpicVideos 2 жыл бұрын

Hako shirts are mint. Everyone comments on mine. If you don’t have one. Get one.

@isaaccorradi8831 2 жыл бұрын

The new intro is sick!

@fatasdat 2 жыл бұрын

The toasty was well appropriate. Made me giggle hard.. Was woody even a twinkle in his daddies eyes when the original MK was at the arcades?

@mattt83 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome, I wanted to check out the clevo build!

@grindmunky 2 жыл бұрын

Love the new intro!

@freesexyew 2 жыл бұрын

Very informative 👏 well dones

@Holmesy89 2 жыл бұрын

New intro is ACE!!!

@jaycob4972 2 жыл бұрын

👌for the condensed intro

@kenleach2516 2 жыл бұрын

Nice watching

@dangdang3970 2 жыл бұрын

Dam, thats bad luck, john is a very talanted man

@STAG162 2 жыл бұрын

the outtakes are great - seems like Al has my problem, with disfluency (the umms and arrs), having too much going on in your head and trying to get it all out in order. looking forward to the rebuild.

@agresa 2 жыл бұрын

Is this TSF's youtube shorts channel?? OH fyi, I purchased two shirts, the turbo bucket hat and a stubby holder and just wanted to say I was surprised with the quality. veddy niiice!

@danielspencer1973 2 жыл бұрын

Killer out takes!😂

@eagle-qr9di 2 жыл бұрын

Like the new intro very dappa

@2burning2turning 2 жыл бұрын

That was great. Top episode. I saw Woody the other day. Must have been getting his hair done down Ballantyne ct.

@mannycalavera121 2 жыл бұрын

Used to run blow through and craw through carby setups back in the day but it was also a budget options and efi as absurdly eccy

@StratoJohn 2 жыл бұрын

Al still loving that carby 😂

@Drewchinnick68 2 жыл бұрын

Love that intro

@kentmckean6795 2 жыл бұрын

I a boat is a hole in the water that you pour money into, a race car is a fire you shovel money into!

@roningrae 2 жыл бұрын

new intro is mint

@prex345 2 жыл бұрын

New intro, nice.

@FeeeshEP3 2 жыл бұрын

Would have been nice to see a more detailed installation. Keep it up. Curious to see what it makes on the dyno.

@davesanford4798 2 жыл бұрын

Bob Glidden ran Clevelands to the extreme. Without all the electronics. Old school know how is gone. If It don't have a computer to tell me what's wrong I don't know how to fix it. Is the new way.

@TheRealMrCods 2 жыл бұрын

Cool intro 👍

@dan_2846 2 жыл бұрын

Curious about the coolant pressure sensor, not something i've seen before. What sort of readings would you expect from a sensor like that? Assuming the rad cap regulates pressure normally I assume you're looking for big spikes above rad cap pressure under boost? Technology can do some cool stuff

@honestpat7789 2 жыл бұрын

Well, that didn’t end the way I expected 🤷‍♂️

@statementleaver8095 2 жыл бұрын

These outro's are getting Savage.🤣😂🤣😂🤣

@jimkotsa2179 2 жыл бұрын

turbo yoda, is it possible to make a video with an in-depth view of the ignition setup on this engine? i.e cam sensor, crank angle sensor and how its all put together?

@madmick3794 2 жыл бұрын

I do not mind the odd carburettor, never owned fuel injection till 2008. Owners of that car are even known these days to pull off the early 90s injection and putting on twin 45mm side drafts. I have kept the injection on mine and have bought a second to try the carby route.

@obsidian.... 2 жыл бұрын

Big Chief just did this on his girl's small block nitrous car. Explaining the same thing... The video is up on Midwest Street Custom's KZfaq channel

@yvindhatterud2228 2 жыл бұрын

Where did You find the boost reference to the fuel pressure regulator? I think it has to be taken from between the compressor side of the turbo, to the carburetor hat.(?)

@chrisrosie0584 2 жыл бұрын

Can't wait until we see industry standard stuff and things...

@jmathis3 2 жыл бұрын

Finished the car and loaded it up to dyno, instead of dumping the car we unloaded it and pulled the motor, cause race car. Reminds me of when I first started working on cars, lowered the car and opened the garage to take if for a test drive. Instead of a test drive I raised it back up and fixed me previous repair again.

@Weissenschenkel 2 жыл бұрын

In the shop where I used to work we had one ventilator with positive pressure and another one with negative pressure, and even with that we had "onion eyes," dry tongue and trouble breathing due to methanol vapor building up in the dyno room. Masks had a slight difference but they get saturated quickly. With EFI setups isn't that nasty compared to carburators, because it's nearly sealed, while carbs leak everywhere.

@jonathanwright5550 2 жыл бұрын

Were suck throughs any better?

@watsisbuttndo829 2 жыл бұрын

I think its going to be one of the most productive dyno sessions ever. A twin turbo cleveland should put daylight under the wheels on that ute. Sounds like not enough ignition lead to me at the moment.

@douglasfenbert1020 2 жыл бұрын

If the engine is melting its plugs it has too much timing at high RPM and leaning out. With this set up, timing needs to be retarded as the RPMs climb. This is what you will see happen with the Haltec ignition system. They may also rejet the carb depending on the data they see...

@javarod 2 жыл бұрын

When the Hoff tuned (chuned?) A carby on Nugget Garage he just drilled out the Jets until they were too big

@ruaraidhmcdonald-walker9524 2 жыл бұрын

You were very nice about the 60s technology on this old V8. Only use carbs on my old 2 stroke bike and my chainsaw. At least now you’ll have some insight into what’s going on. Dizzys and carbs belong in a bin. You spend a day in the dyno and the blowby alone will make you half cut…. 😂

@brettkelly1436 2 жыл бұрын

You won’t flow enough methanol threw that carby with single needle and seats per float bowl, my E85 blow threw carby has dual needle seats, and all the internal passages in the demon carbs are way to small out of the box

@jamesbower330 2 жыл бұрын

All what you said is correct. Most methanol carbs run an electronic needle and seat to keep the bowls full.

@davidjohnson8474 2 жыл бұрын

I'm starting to see what can be done on a Cleveland. To do port EFI is it needed to use the cam sensor instead of a distributor and a crank sensor? Can you steer me in the right direction? In the states EFI on a Cleveland is a gray area.

@theskidfactory 2 жыл бұрын

You can use a distributor if you want but it needs to have the function internally to give a once per rotation pulse and also usually an 8 per rotation pulse. It’s easier IMO to just uses a crank signal, cam signal and individual coils.

@kweightthree 2 жыл бұрын

Need more Ah, Um, compilations.

@hutchdw77 2 жыл бұрын

Make sure there’s a one way valve on the fuel lines.

@ceyre5969 2 жыл бұрын

The Ah ah uh Ahh uuuhhh at the end 😂 also, long live the carby’s!

@FELiPES101 2 жыл бұрын

like the new intro

@terryturner5360 2 жыл бұрын

Gotta love the effect of methanol on the eyes lol

@79series 2 жыл бұрын

Side question. Over the previous years ive had 3 different performance vehicles were individually tuned at different shops Each car had the worst cold starts. Almost have to wait in the driveway like a cold carby motor to warm it up.multiple motor roations before they would start more so in winters and flat spots etc until warm. Is there a reason why 3 different tuners struggled to do a drivable cold start. Was it the haltecs that couldn't do it well on or incapable tuners or is it a general near impossible task to do.

@CJChild 2 жыл бұрын

Probably an incapable tuner, or one that didn't have much time to sort it. A tuner I used kept my car over night specifically so he could sort the cold start tune first thing on a cold morning.

@ayycee5303 2 жыл бұрын

Yep and for the 1500 bucks they are charging these day..they should be

@onedayiwillmakesomecontent 2 жыл бұрын

Had the same problem with a "big name tuner". I had to pull the turbo air pipes off recently to get at the alternator on my G6ET. put them back on, TIGHTENED the hose clamps... voila Stumble gone... Changed the spark plugs on the weekend... Three out of 6 plugs JUST tight... 4 out of 6 coil on plug retaining bolts loose.... The thing runs so smooth now! A tuner is a thing for a sandwich! 🐟

@ryanworkman5229 2 жыл бұрын

I'm sure an experienced tuner should be able to set it up fairly well from experience, but if the tuner has never spent the time sorting cold starts they simply won't have the experience. And if they don't have customers willing to leave vehicles for cold start tuning for a week they can't get the experience.

@madrew2003 2 жыл бұрын

Hopefully the Hoff is better with Holleys than Webers. lol. Well do I remember the hand drilling of jets!

@MarkLinno81 2 жыл бұрын

Gday fellas, if after all this tuning it is still lean or melting one or two plugs it could be the manifold if it’s ported and polished, I had nothing but dramas on my Procharged 565bbc with blow through C&S carb, a rough cast bottom inside the intake helps even out the fuel distribution as so much fuel comes through it turns into a river flowing unevenly over a polished surface and into favoured ports, you may not have this drama but just something to think about if you can’t get an even plug read. Cheers

@MarkLinno81 2 жыл бұрын

@Rvve Duio they work well once sorted, easy to start and fairly reliable, on e85 went 8.87@157mph in full weight street driven Nova

@chrismcgarn4228 2 жыл бұрын

Mad

@dannyaaaaa7998 2 жыл бұрын

👍

@ConcernedCitizen742 2 жыл бұрын

Wow what an emding

@0utere 2 жыл бұрын

Came to see how many got the "Toasty" reference. 🥊

@bradleykempton6655 2 жыл бұрын

wow Alan so much info in such a small time amazing job guys can this hall tech be use on a 4x carbs on a motorbike ??????

@theskidfactory 2 жыл бұрын

Yes it can.

@bradleykempton6655 2 жыл бұрын

thanks Alan what sort of cost we looking at im in the UK

@jahraizer250 2 жыл бұрын

Aussies know the deal..... what a monster. Oops then it broke :( Can't wait. Thanks mr turbo yoda sir. And woodrigos

@JohnRolyAU 2 жыл бұрын

Here finally after my emergency Appendix Delete operation... 🤣

@theskidfactory 2 жыл бұрын

Yikes! Hope you’re on the recovery mate!

@boothbytcd6011 2 жыл бұрын

Don't need that anyway. Everyone's running 'electronic digestion injection' nowadays.

@paullutherborrow637 2 жыл бұрын

Reckon there will be a new specifically built carb ordered for this one real soon from someone like CSU in the states Or maybe ZOK in QLD

@79huddy 2 жыл бұрын

There is is main circuit enrichment underneath the center breather stud it probably needs opened up and the idle bleeds played with Demon carbs are a little different to play with bet its the adjustable main circuit if the jets didn't fix it and it could probably do with having the boosters played with they have a standard annular booster for methanol and they have one with larger ports for boosted applications

@theskidfactory 2 жыл бұрын

You might be onto something

@bigal878 2 жыл бұрын

Zok for the win. 👍🏻

@justincummins166 2 жыл бұрын

Dont talk to me about carbs... VB Comodores auto Choke 😬 and and XD Falcons in the middle of winter at like -2 in the morning 😉

@JoshRabinowitzIRL 2 жыл бұрын

a twist!

@rustydog1805 2 жыл бұрын

Caution needle and seat size. If they are to small the fuel presure gauge will read normal but your bowls are empty as cant keep up. Seen melted plugs and pistons from this.