My Amazon Store: amazon.com/sho... How to fix a ghost flush on a champion 4 toilet by American Standard Shows how to change out the flush seal and the flush valve assembly
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@davidgraham72794 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU!!!! It took TWELVE years for this to show up, and it was JUST as you said. Drove me nuts for months! THANK YOU also for the Amazon link. I ordered FOUR spares at 6 bucks each, just in case they go out of service. I was hoping after YEARS of messing with crappy flapper valves... a modern toilet would set me free... but here we are :) Thanks again, and GOOD JOB to Ben the impromptu cameraman
@averageguy12613 жыл бұрын
MEEE TOOO! 12 years!
@yankeehank18974 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, but most likely you don't need to go to the trouble of replacing the whole flush valve. When replacing the blue ring, you have to line up the 4 indentations on the plastic cap with the 4 notches on the bottom part of the flush valve that is connected to the toilet. Position the cap until it seats. If it doesn't seat properly, it will leak. That's the main cause of the continuing ghost flushes/leaks even after replacing the gasket with a new one. But my main gripe with this flush valve is the overflow pipe is too short. If you adjust the water level in the tank to just below the tip of the overflow pipe, it will flush okay, but any lower than that and you have to hold the handle down to get enough water to flush into the bowl.
@klmegm1976822 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@Kannondale072 жыл бұрын
You can add a PVC coupler to the overflow tube to allow more water to fill
@yankeehank18972 жыл бұрын
@@Kannondale07 that's a great idea! Thanks!
@donaldkline81622 жыл бұрын
You are spot on. Wondering why American Standard doesn't give out this important fact.
@aprileecranston48664 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this video. I had no idea why the water would suddenly gush in my toilet. I have the Champion 4 toilet and it’s worked perfectly for 5 years. I’m a female senior citizen😂😂 and I followed your instructions and fixed it myself, only got my seal from Amazon, $6. You saved me a bunch of money and I thank you again !!!
@bertblue9683 Жыл бұрын
Best video I've found on this topic. Still struggling to remove the top piece by unscrewing it. Will give it another try in a minute but wanted to say thank you. And to confirm the flush on my Titan II is incredible. Three years in and they have never clogged.
@jjones391Ай бұрын
Thanks for your video. The only thing I can say is that if I only knew what I know now, I would have never bought this type of tolet. From the time I put that tolet in my home, my water bill has doubled. I've lived in my home for more than 18 years. Never have I had to pay more than $100. until I got this tolet. It never closes after flashing. You have to open the tank and make sure you close after every flash. I would rather change the tolet because the monthly $200 to $300 water bill is no joke. I know it is this tolet because whenever I stop the water from going in the toilet, my water bill goes down, and when I put it on, it starts to go back up. This tolet is POORLY MADE!!! PERIOD!! Thanks again for your video. Be blessed
@mendlefarg7 жыл бұрын
Alternatives to popping the blisters: flip the ring over and put it back. Also, check the top and bottom cap alignment with the notches.
@jonboggio33235 жыл бұрын
I second this. I just came here to post this so try this first.
@davelemay58116 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much, could not figure out was going on. Replaced everything but the flash assembly. I glad to see I was not the only one with this problem.
@blooddisorder4 жыл бұрын
I have six Champion 4 toilets and everyone of them leaks. I remodeled our home 3 years ago and I’m on my 3rd round replacing gaskets. I have my receipts from Home Depot but I don’t have the original UPC code from the box so American standard won’t send me replacement gaskets without charging for them. On a second not I paid over $20,000 for our platinum series HVAC system 3 years ago as well. It came with a 2 year warrantee and American standard covered all the repairs. I had the best installers in the business come out each time and after 2 years my warrantee was up. It has never worked longer than a few weeks. Our Train system works in our other homes. Our Rheem system has always worked. All our cheap glacier bay toilets work in our other home. It’s really frustrating but I have to throw out every American standard item we have in our home. Yes even our American standard jacuzzi tubs don’t work. I always thought they were know for toilets but now I realize they are known for being crap.
@RedEyePeasgmail6 жыл бұрын
Note American Standard also recommends aligning the 4 tabs on the underside of the green "bulb" so it properly seats to the portion fixed to the tank. If you don't do this you will have a slow leak even after replacing the seal.
@cousineddie78984 жыл бұрын
Yes you will and you will become an alcoholic before you figure out what's causing this. Make sure those four slots are aligned with the mating cup underneath or it will leak.
@alaynebolster35916 жыл бұрын
I've had the toilet for twelve years and this is the first time I've had to replace the flush valve seal.
@michaelwodarcyk29038 жыл бұрын
As mentioned in a post below, make sure that the four notches in the bottom of the green cap align with the four ridges in the green part beneath the seal or they won't seat together tightly and will leak worse than ever. I realigned the two parts after changing the seal and there is no longer any leaking.
@tomp6416 жыл бұрын
Great video! Once I popped the flush valve top off, I noticed a blister on the underside of the seal. I popped it with a pin and released the water. I flipped the seal over and re-installed it and VOILA...ghost flush is gone!!
@JunkMan3416 жыл бұрын
Man -o-man. My sealed looked like some poor 15 year old with an acne problem. I replaced mine, and so far so good. I just wished American Standard still made the original flush valve, as I believe the newer one doesn't have enough force to clear out a massive turd.
@bobtheelectrician66926 жыл бұрын
The little black part at 3:33 that unscrews has an o-ring installed in a groove. That cheapie o ring will deteriorate over several years and can cause a phantom flush. I replaced 2 Korky's and was on my way to replacing the entire flush valve assembly, which involves about $40 in parts and seperating the tank from the bowl. New o-ring from a faucet set an d problem solved.
@derekosborne13417 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the insight. I flipped the gasket upside down and it worked. I will call American Standard for the inevitable replacement. Guessing my super hard Phoenix, AZ water is a possible reason its failing.
@burbbilly7 жыл бұрын
I've got hard water here too so maybe, I'm thinking it's more a design flaw though :-)
@chevyguy69612 ай бұрын
Converting it back to the old school Korky's 3-4 inch flush valve with flapper solves the problem. These newer valves are a constant headache, especially on a toilet that get's a lot of use.
@themichaelcreed4 жыл бұрын
***I'd caution the advise given in this video regarding replacing the complete valve*** When assembling the lid (green top), you need to make sure the slots (4) on the top of the valve align with the "cup" that the lid screws down to. If not, it will seem like the two pieces are screwed together, but really there's a small gap which allows some water to pass and then the phantom flush cycle goes on. I missed this the first few times I took it apart. I'd argue that the complete valve wasn't bad (with the one he changed out), it was how it went together when installing the seal. Really easy to not get the slots aligned. Basically lift the bottom of the valve and install the top with the new seal. Then rotate the top till you feel it drop about 1/8 of an inch and it won't rotate anymore. Then screw the top lid down. This fixed the phantom flushing I had after changing the seal.
@cousineddie78984 жыл бұрын
Michael, you saved my sanity! I changed the entire contents of that tank before I found out what was causing this ghost flush issue. Those four slots must be aligned with the for inside that cup that sits below scalp. If they are not, I guarantee you it will continue to drain and fill over and over.
@vancouverwashingtonskyshow77134 жыл бұрын
I've had problems with mine for a long time now. I've replaced the flush valve seal a few times and had to accept ghost flushing at least a few times a day. After reading your comment, I made sure to rotate the valve assembly halves so they matched up. I'll check in a few hours to see if the water level has dropped or not!
@jeffminton64545 жыл бұрын
In researching the fix I read in several reviews that the trick is to make sure the imprinted side of the blue flush gasket is facing up. Seems that they fail when the imprints face the flush valve seat.
@erisdysnomia25115 жыл бұрын
Very helpful, thank you. I lost the bolt to which the cotter pin attaches at the end of the arm that lifts the flush valve open. A zip tie works well as a replacement.
@deborahpohl57106 жыл бұрын
Popped the blisters a couple hours ago and so far so good. Thanks for the help
@angiew13676 жыл бұрын
I had a leaking flush valve too. Replaced the blue gasket - still leaked. Turns out there was a hairline crack in the top part of the green dome (for lack of better words I am calling it the green dome lol). Replaced the green dome and have had NO issues since. American Standard Champion 4 long bowl toilet circa 2008. BUT today... the plastic stem that holds the whole green assembly broke, so I have to replace the entire flush valve assembly.
@randyyoder48984 жыл бұрын
I'm fixing to change the whole flush valve on a friend's toilet. Changing the rubber ring worked until I left their house the other day then it started leaking again after I left. Do not install flush valves with multiple pieces that can be problem points. Install 1 piece systems if at all possible is my recommendation.
@iridiumMirror4 жыл бұрын
Excellent description of how to perform the repair. Thank you so much! (BTW, whenever I say the name for the problem, I use a Nicholas Cage impression, "GHOST FLUSH!!!" :-) ) We have a lot of chlorine in our water and the seal started leaking just a bit after maybe 6 years.
@jackjumperx44413 жыл бұрын
I went as low rent as possible. I poked all the bubbles from one side and put it back. Been working so far. Caused by bad gasket making methods and being too rough with the flush handle. Nice gentle single motion
@Liveharley16 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info, I fixed it with korkys one, sounds like its working. I will change with american standard if it fails. I put 2 of these toilets in last year that is not saying much for the company!
@rebeccafergus56006 жыл бұрын
Okay. As soon as I just went back in and tried for the 25th time and it turned easily! I hope this new seal lasts as long as the old one did.
@toddw75306 жыл бұрын
Korky seal (red) leaked. Problem was resolved in a matter of minutes using Fluidmaster seal (blue).
@juanbejarano66804 жыл бұрын
Thank you! for some awesome information regarding Ghost Flushing.
@godwetrust14366 жыл бұрын
Picked up 3 of these champion 4 elongated one piece toilet. Instantly noticed one had poor quality control the ceramic coating at the bottom edge. Also noticed the measurement on one of the toilets water tank where the lid sets on measures 7 inches and the other 2 toilets measured 7.5 inches. Load of crap because I waited 3 weeks to get these. Also the ceramic coating is not sprayed inside the bowl up underneath the rim.
@Mantooth28517 жыл бұрын
If you're here, you've probably already own this toilet. If you don't, stay away! They are garbage. My seal failed at the 6 month mark. I popped the water bubble on the original seal and it still leaked. Replaced it with a Korky and so far it has worked fine. If it fails again, I'll end up calling the company. I cannot, in good conscience, recommend this toilet.
@chrishines69517 жыл бұрын
All four of mine started ghost flushing within two weeks of each other when they hit seven years.
@jeffstanley45936 жыл бұрын
I replaced three toilets with these upon plumbers recommendation. One has lost its flapper valve chain due to corrosion and now one is ghost flushing in less than a year.
@jeffscomp3 жыл бұрын
Korky makes wonderful toilet parts. It probably lasts longer than the American standard version.
@greatgazoo017 жыл бұрын
use a safety pin to pop the blister(s) in the flapper seal. squeeze water out of the blister(s) with your fingers and you are done. you do not have to take anything apart or buy anything. simple fix I have used many times with this design.
@cookiesmith71107 жыл бұрын
OMG!! I have had this problem for SOOO long... I'm embarrassed to say i ignored it. I was just about to order a new flush valve and came across this youtube video and then YOUR comment. I popped the blisters just as you recommended and NO phantom flush!! Nothing!!! I can't thank you enough for posting!!!
@pamelagill67247 жыл бұрын
Is it still working? I just did this after reading your post. Fingers crossed. I have two of these toilets and both are phantom flushing.
@lowhanlindsey7 жыл бұрын
What are the blisters? Why does popping them make a difference?
@bigaparker19775 жыл бұрын
Yup I got the same problem and tried the red seal. It leaks still them stops and leaks again. Guess I'm pulling it apart. Ok I forgot to change the o ring, I did and it still leaked. So I put the old one back in now there are 2 o rings, working so far
@adampajcz87192 жыл бұрын
I am going to replace the flush tower with a Fluidmaster kit. I've tried and tried to repair my American Standard toilet and it still phantom flushes.
@tomasranta615427 күн бұрын
7:58 pm. I have 2 of these. They stink. I have replaced the seals many times. I replaced both with the fluidmaster 3 inch. No more ghost flushes and you don’t need a 4 inch unit. I don’t know why American Standard Champion4 hasn’t discontinued this junk?
@BabyPhat6666 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for the info! This is exactly what my dad needed to see to fix our phantom flushes.
@sundown7985 жыл бұрын
Same deal with the Kohler the bottom seal separated. Toilet not even 2 years old. Phantom flushes could hear it downstairs. Big box stores they cheap out on all the toilets and parts. Get one from a legit plumbing counter better outfit. Hear Toto is good too!
@alspagnuolo81158 жыл бұрын
The new flush valve is different. American Standard new flush valve doesn't seem to screw off like the old one, it is now one piece. Changed out 3 filters and still having ghost flushes.
@TransplantHelper2 жыл бұрын
We just got one of these toilets. Hunk of junk. Have to hold the handle down to get any kind of decent flush. I miss the old style floating flapper that held itself up until flush was done.
@kobylarz1776 жыл бұрын
Any solution on having to hold the handle up in order to get a full flush?
@johnhowardsickler9 ай бұрын
Can you do a video of the one that has no thumb screw?
@angel71rs7 жыл бұрын
I installed the Korky seal, stopped the leak for only a few days. It seemed to me the Korky was a bit thinner than the original blue seal, so thought maybe nut wasn't compressing seal enough when tightened to 2nd stop. So I marked the 2nd stop with a sharpie, got the top half back off, clipped the second stop off with side cutters. Very soft plastic, came right off. Smoothed with a couple of passes with a file. When I reinstalled, I was able to carefully tighten the nut almost a 1/4 turn more. This added clamping compressed the seal more, probably the original O ring too. No more leak! Another tip: I hate messing with the water cut off cause they always seem to leak after. So I use a rubber band to hold up the float, clip it to edge of tank corner. It's one of those vertical travel float assemblies, not the old style long arm.
@atomatom64426 жыл бұрын
Right at the end, you have basically stated that you don't like to use shut-off valves, call a pro and have it replaced. What a cop-out.. They shouldn't leak
@2-old-Forthischet6 жыл бұрын
My GF has two of these Max 4 toilets and both are experiencing problems with occasional running water. We've replaced both flush valves and the fill valves but both are still running occasionally. We've adjusted the fill level to different extremes with no apparent help. She bought these toilets at Home Depot so when we thought that the flush valve flapper needed a new seal, we went back there and found out that Home Depot doesn't carry any parts for these toilets anymore. Hmmmmm. I have bought toilets from Costco for under a hundred dollars and never had these kind of problems. Believe me, I'm a serious addict of toilet flushing and find no difference between the two toilets but then again, I don't flush balls down the toilet either.
@burbbilly6 жыл бұрын
That's funny, we sell it but when it breaks...no parts
@vhype233 Жыл бұрын
Thank you..
@frankm25887 жыл бұрын
Just today on a friend's Champion 4, only 6 years old, was doing ghost fills,on and off, filling, stopping then water level drops a bit, fills a little more, on and on. Amer Standard sent me a blue gasket and O ring kit, put it in, no luck, changed the fill valve, same thing. I guess I need to change out the whole flush valve.Hate doing that with a 2-piece toilet, guess I'll have to take the whole tank off.
@burbbilly7 жыл бұрын
You will have to pull the tank, do me a favor though. I keep getting comments from people telling me that there are little air bubbles on the flapper and if you take a needle and pop them and squeeze the water out of them then everything works great. I had someone comment again today about it, should be in the comments below our convo you can message me or email me if you want mytwocentsonthings@gmail.com I'd like to see if this fix works or not, I don't remember seeing bubbles on the ones I worked on and I know it took me a few tries to get it working with no call backs. It wasn't until I changed out the entire assemble, new flush valve and flapper assembly that it finally stopped
@frankm25887 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your reply. I don't recall seeing any bubbles. I wrote to the tech at Amer Standard to try to get a new flush valve. Now I'm wondering if I did this as Michael W says below: " make sure that the four notches in the bottom of the green cap align with the four ridges in the green part beneath the seal or they won't seat together tightly" I might check that. But I think I would have seen bubbles if they were in the gasket.
@burbbilly7 жыл бұрын
I doubt you installed it wrong, like I said mine didn't stop until I replaced the whole flush valve assemble with a new one from the manufacturer. I saw your post about the fill valve, don't feel bad about that. :-) Usually when you get a phantom flush it's from a leak in the tank somewhere, either onto the floor, at the flush valve or at the overflow. As for the bubbles, I don't recall seeing any either on the ones I worked on but I keep getting comments about them so I figured I'd ask and see if you saw any. When you get this solved please post what it was on here so we all can learn from it.
@frankm25887 жыл бұрын
Did all above, disgusted, still leaks like a sieve. Trying to get receipt from plumber who installed it, warranty is 10 years, otherwise just pay about $20 for new flush valve.
@burbbilly7 жыл бұрын
I think that's going to be your fix. Sorry to hear you had to chase this around like that but I think your on it now. You can call their customer service and see if they'll ship one out for free, they know they have a problem with them. Even if you change it out in the meantime, keep that one as a back up.
@beachlifestyle Жыл бұрын
My toilet dose not have that screw on top of the flush valve. So how do I remove the old seal?
@robertlyons77192 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Worked great!
@atomatom64426 жыл бұрын
As a contractor: HomeDepot/Lowes plumbing fixtures and toilets are made up differently than from a supply house. Many parts are plastic or thin cheap (Pot metal) like. As for the American Standard line, my 3 have all had seals replaced, within 2 years. Now 2 are Ghost filling. I WOULD NEVER BUY THIS PRODUCT AGAIN or recommend. Calling company to get 2 new o-rings and seals. It's upsetting to watch/hear the wasted water randomly thru the night. Sometimes I just turn the shut-off valve off before going to sleep.. NOT IMPRESSED!!!
@brianl5376 жыл бұрын
Great video. You were a big help.
@YankeeMark4616 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video.
@libbyking36717 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for the info, I'll do just that!!
@jimengelage9145 жыл бұрын
Any solution to getting the toilet to flush completely without having to hold the handle down while it flushes?? Thanks very much.
@bluemystic75014 жыл бұрын
Did you ever find a solution? This is exactly what mine does.
@yankeehank18974 жыл бұрын
I ran into this. The problem is the damn flush valve flap sits 2 inches off the bottom of the tank, reducing the amount of water in the tank that can actually can go down to the bowl. And if you try to raise the water level in the tank by adjusting the valve float higher, the water will flow into the overflow tube and it will run constantly. One solution is to extend the overfill tube higher by adding a short piece of PVC (the same diameter of of the overflow pipe) and seal it with some JB Weld or other waterproof adhesive. Then you can hopefully raise the water level in the tank a bit higher to allow more water to flush.
@arthur07288 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the time to make this video. Woot!
@burbbilly8 жыл бұрын
You're welcome
@rebeccafergus56006 жыл бұрын
I have had my American Standard toilet for about 9 years and this is the first time I have needed to replace the seal. My problem is I cannot get the black screw to raise up out of the notch so that I can unscrew it. I can move it right and left between the notches, I just cant get it to pull up enough. I have used a jar grip and still cant get it out of the notch. Any suggestions?
@HLD02052 жыл бұрын
Same problem! Every video I see shows how easy it is to unscrew, but the wings on the screw are stuck in between the grooves.
@dianadingess9068 Жыл бұрын
I have no thump screw on my plunger cap
@GrahamWoodchip3 жыл бұрын
It no longer has the black nut on top how do I remove
@giuseppenero1107 жыл бұрын
If the notches and tabs don't align into each other there will always be a leak
@burbbilly7 жыл бұрын
this is a problem with the flapper part itself. It is important to line up tabs but this isnt a tab problem
@Crashed131963 Жыл бұрын
They cant make a seal that does not blister and bubble . Screw american standard. You have to change the seal every few yeas all the time .
@billiondollarbabies32358 жыл бұрын
check your gasket for air bubbles ,I had 5 bubbles in my gasket so I popped them with a pin they were filled with water , reinstalled and leak is gone
@burbbilly8 жыл бұрын
Good tip Mike. I had not heard of this. I did get a good gasket the last time from them and it seems to be working now (no call back) I would say if yours is leaking I would call them anyway and get your name registered with them that you are having a problem. Was contacted by a lawyer recently about this so I have a feeling there is going to be a class action down the road
@cookiesmith71107 жыл бұрын
This works!! I was planning to replace the entire thing and all i did was pop and drain the air bubbles. I'm amazed!!!
@clutchman99766 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip. Worked for me too
@lorinkenfield69376 жыл бұрын
I had two. Popped each one. We'll see what happens. Here's hoping! Thanks Mike.
@libbyking36717 жыл бұрын
My toilet flushes as if it's not going to but it clears, I'm use to a stronger flush, I don't have any leaks, am I good!
@burbbilly7 жыл бұрын
You may be able to make a stronger flush by increasing the water amount in the tank, if it's not already maxed out. You can call the manufacturer and tell them what you are dealing with and they may give you a suggestion or walk you through a fix. As long as it's going down your good but if you're concerned about it and its a newer toilet give them a call. If they offer to send you a part take it, even if you are not going to do the repair right away you want to have that part on hand. This way if you have to call a plumber out they don't need to track a flapper or part down and you pay for that time.
@Lazerbeam323ci7 жыл бұрын
hi thank you for this video. I have a one piece AS toilet based on Champion parts. The flush valve removal looks straight forward on the 2 piece but not sure how to remove on a one piece. I have an older design flush piston which looks to have been replaced with this newer design but I'm at a loss as to how to get it out. Have you come across the 1 piece versions in your work? I hired a plumber for my repair but he too has not seen this type of valve
@burbbilly7 жыл бұрын
Lazer please send me a picture...2 or 3 if you think it will help explain...and I'll try and help mytwocentsonthings@gmail.com
@louisdinadis44417 жыл бұрын
The Burb Billy thank you Billy for the response. I had difficulty getting the replacement part locally and I decided a new toilet was an easier path. It turned out a better and it's a newer more water efficient design so all turned out well. have a great 2017!
@johnm26076 жыл бұрын
Do not buy the American Standard toilet. I have replaced the entire flush valve 10 times since I have owned this toilet. I finished installing the 2nd flush valve in the last month because the last valve leaked immediately after installing it. The one I just installed is also leaking. I am 100% sure that the leak is coming from the blue seal in the flapper valve. Prior to reinstalling the tank I set the tank up over a bucket and i used 2 3/4" sockets as spacers on the mount screw to prevent them from leaking. I proved that nothing was leaking prior to me reinstalling the tank. The tank did not leak when I first reinstalled it; however, after a few days it started leaking again internally. I want my money back for this piece of crap!! Don't buy one and don't waste your time replacing seals, you need to replace the toilet unless you like to live with phantom flush.
@burbbilly6 жыл бұрын
John sorry to hear about your headache. I had pretty much the same experience there for a while with it. I didn't hear back from the customer I was talking about in this video but I'm not sure that's because it was fixed but afraid it was because the phantom came back and he was tired of having me tear his toilet apart.
@gail50957 жыл бұрын
I bought this American Standard toilet 4215A two years ago and it runs, phantom flushes, and leaks all day long so I replaced the seal but couldn't find an American Standard seal kit so I bought a Korky, which only worked for about three weeks then it started leaking again and losing water so this time I have no choice but to replace the whole flush valve which means taking the tank off. I will email the company and see if they can send me a free replacement one. If not I'll have to buy one at Home Depot or somewhere and try it. If it doesn't fix the problem I will be replacing the entire toilet with another brand name and never buy American Standard again. It was a fairly expensive toilet, I was sold on how powerful it was supposed to be flushing but it's always been a two-flush toilet and it's a piece of garbage that's done nothing but cost me money and waste water.
@burbbilly7 жыл бұрын
Gail, call them! I did and they sent out a replacement flush valve kit and it solved the problem. Lots of other quick fix ideas out there but for me the replacement from the company did fix it, so whatever is going on they seem to have sorted it out....maybe :-)
@OldSkoolF5 жыл бұрын
Standard Champion is garbage..... Mine fills and shuts off 5 minutes later it fills again... Replaced the seal... Same issue.
@matthewcrabtree15617 жыл бұрын
I didn't try teflon tape but I did try a thicker gasket and it made no difference. Home Depot reads U-Tube and they allowed me to buy a Kohler and they are far superior to American Standard. (Don't buy American Standard)
@libbyking36717 жыл бұрын
What is a phantom flush?
@burbbilly7 жыл бұрын
Phantom flush or ghost flush is when you hear a toilet start running and no one was using it, like a ghost flushed it. They are an indication of a leak, either in the tank or coming from the tank. In this case it was an internal leak, the flapper is allowing water to get into the bowl.
@service19568 жыл бұрын
The clowns at American Standard say that the korky seals are not good and should use factory parts? Horse bunk!!! I have used them and last for years. What about the fill valve. The fill valve that American Standard uses in new toilets is "In Fact", an aftermarket part. It is the Fluidmaster 400A. An aftermarket part that fits many different brands and models of toilets.
@burbbilly8 жыл бұрын
lol I hear ya.
@frankm25887 жыл бұрын
Yes, I put in the Fluidmaster 400AH, the Performax, thinking the phantom flushing might be the fill valve failing to shut off, oh well I wasted 12 bucks of my friend's money.
@K31swiss6 жыл бұрын
HTH you contact American Standard?
@burbbilly6 жыл бұрын
1 (800) 442-1902
@MusicStudent17 жыл бұрын
The American Standard Champion 4 toilet is a DISASTER! The best way to fix the stupid leaky thing is to REPLACE the whole thing with a better brand. So far, I've wasted over $300.00 and about three days off on a toilet I need to replace again. It is NOT a good toilet. Avoid it! It won't last.
@burbbilly7 жыл бұрын
Amen......sorry about the $300 and lost work. There is a class action in the works. Had a lawyer contact me already about it
@MusicStudent17 жыл бұрын
The Burb Billy - A class action lawsuit? Some poor hotel exec somewhere probably bought 100 of them a year ago and they're ALL leaking by now! I can imagine the water bills!!! I can tell that flush valve is cheap plastic just by the noise it's making while you're moving it around. You know, I'd be happy with a replacement tank that fits a standard 2" or 3" flush valve. You could just get an aftermarket repair kit and be good to go.
@bluemystic75014 жыл бұрын
These toilets are shit. My model was marketed as being able to flush like a gallon of golf balls and pounds of kitty litter. Mine often times executes a 'half flush' leaving most of what you dropped in there. Maybe it's a bad valve? I dunno.
@Imastitchertoo4 жыл бұрын
Mine was advertised like yours. Half of the time it won't even flush toilet paper down unless I hold the handle all the way down until I hear all water is out of tank. I'm on city water and I don't go over my allowed $14 a month, UNTIL last month it went up $10 now this month it was $74 due to ghost flushing. I've replaced with the parts from A S and still ghost flushing. I'm going to check tomorrow to see if it's seated correctly. Wouldn't buy this again for 10 cents!!!
@kellylynn91633 жыл бұрын
I bought the same toilet it is garbage!
@bluemystic75013 жыл бұрын
@@kellylynn9163 Any suggestions on other models to check out? I need to replace mine.
@matthewcrabtree15617 жыл бұрын
I did all that and it didn't work. The toilet is junk! I had to pay for every replacement gasket and it still junk!
@burbbilly7 жыл бұрын
Haters gonna hate. :-) I get a lot of people who tell me all these things I should have done, I did all of them. I was on the phone with their tech support repeated times and had multiple trips out to this house trying to fix the problem. It did not get fixed until they sent me out the changed gasket/assembly. If someone says they rotated the gasket or did some trick with it and it worked, then they got lucky or it's already leaking again lol
@robhillesheim87207 жыл бұрын
I thought same thing mine ran every 15 minutes or so. had tried two different gaskets finally fixed with a few wraps of Teflon pipe thread tape around the part with the o-ring before I screwed it in.
@robhillesheim87207 жыл бұрын
to be fair though the reason I got this toilet is because I had bought a earlier version of this toilet for my basement about 6 years ago liked it, never had a problem with it. now that the leak is fixed I am happy with this one too.
@michaelrwrightlawyer7 жыл бұрын
Your suggestion was the key to fixing this and it finally made all the difference.
@hardnoxgrad57632 жыл бұрын
American Standard new generation toilets suck… They are cheaping out but using crap gasket material. They should have gaskets that last a minimum 10 years….just like they had in the old days. Their design engineers are doing premature fail design work on purpose.
@HarveyWallbanger-ho2cq8 ай бұрын
Get a NuFlush valve, problem solved
@pjbmo59302 жыл бұрын
Those things suck out loud! American Standard sucks!
@m.herbert52625 жыл бұрын
I can't stand this toilet...it's horrible...don't buy a Champion American Standard.