For red velvet, especially listening to feel my rhythm and wildside, I feel like all of them are vocally talented and more experienced than before. Yeri and Irene have proved that they can reach notes as high as the other members (based on wildside) while sounding very good. Joy should definitely be an official lead vocalist while I think there should not be sub vocalist positions in the group.

"how own earth is she (yuqi) a sub vocalist?" well the same way jaehyun from nct (main/lead vocal) isnt getting any lines anymore! idols with deep voices arent that respected by agencies unless they're a rapper.....

YUQI is definitely MAIN VOCALIST material. Her voice is not just charming it is very very pleasant. I don't think it'll be changed or anything. I do, however, wishes she knows how good she is.

Yuqi and Yoohyeon are definitely main vocal worthy for their respective groups, and they both deserve more recognition for sure But I was surprised to see Joy as a lead vocal, her support is inconsistent and she tends to strain on some songs where she shares parts with Seulgi and Wendy Nonetheless, compared to Seulgi I think she have a better development of her head voice and her transitions to falsetto are clean, so idk

okay so i have many recommendations : • vocal based groups / soloist - purple kiss ( same agency of mamamoo, really talented group ) - iu ( korea’s sweetheart she has this sweet but powerful voice ) - hyolyn ( the TRUE ALL ROUNDER : she has an incredible vocal technique and musicality, she is the best female dancer that korea has aver seen and she knows how to rap too ) - brave girls ( very capable girls especially in the vocal department ) - wonder girls ( ex group of sunmi, they were the most famous group from jyp ent and they had many valid main vocalists ) - sunmi ( she is like the weaker version of an all rounder, she can sing and has some decent technique, she can dance fairly well and she is trying to get experienced in rap )

100% agree with sua and yoohyeon. yoohyeon was already an amazing vocalist from the start and with time she developed even more and deserves the position of main vocalist along with Siyeon. Sua is an all rounder and can be mistaken as a main vocalist in other groups so she deserves the lead vocalist position

I completely agree Yuqi's vocals are too underestimated! From the 4th gen vocals I believe checking StayC is a must ❤️ They sing live all the time and are incredible! I also love Purple Kiss vocal line as people are mentioning and gosh, I recently discovered Hyolyn with Queendom2 and she is just THE queen 👑

Purple Kiss is a must-see group! And even though they disbanded, you should look into iz*one as well so you can get further invested in the girls solo projects and their newly debuted groups (like how you mentioned IVE, but also le sserafim just debuted recently and they're so cool!)

Joy and SuA were both lead rappers and sub vocals when debuted, but barely rap and are treated as lead vocalists. Edit: And I agree that Yoohyeon should be the second main vocalist of Dreamcatcher, while SuA as the lead vocalist along with JiU

Wholly agree with Joy's role!! She's got good color to her voice, though I think a little lower than Seulgi in terms of advancement in technique, but way better than a lot of other idols

Yes Nmixx’s Lily. I’m not that invested in 4th gen, but Lily is coming for us and I’m excited to see where they take their music next. The girls have been showing some seriously strong skills with singing, dance and performance and I hope their future music gives them the chance to showcase it.

NMIXX is such a vocal monster for 4th gen. Both Heawon and Lily are main vocalist materials.

My vocalist recommendations: - Yuju (now a soloist, former Gfriend member, just listen to Navillera, Rough and Mago by Gfriend) - Seunghee (former CLC member, if elegance were a person) - Chungha (soloist) General recommendations: - Loona - Minseo - Sunmi - WJSN (has an SM trained main vocal, so...) - Wonder Girls (Knowing your taste in vocal tone, you will love Sunye, but she unfortunately left the group already) - CLC (great discography, everyone is very talented) - Boa (She is the original)

Yoohyeon definitely has the talent and skills to be a main vocalist. She should definitely be raised to that position. She takes all the main vocal lines that isn’t given to Siyeon. SuA has progressed so much and is getting many lead vocal parts that I agree she should get the title. If she keeps progressing I could see her at main vocalist level soon enough. I would like to see her progress her rap more now that she has allowed herself to start doing it again. Her rap voice is beautiful. I hope they help Gahyeon progress more in her rapping skills and to get her more training on her sustainability when singing cause she’s been doing great in singing within her range and abilities.

Honestly jype should make Nayeon a main vocalist since they treat her like it, or yes, if they could give Jeongyeon the lines she deserves they could be both lead vocalists and with the same treatment. And it's not just Nayeon, jype nowadays tends to always give Sana and Mina more lines than Jeongyeon. The problem, for them, is Jeongyeon. I'm tired

YAS say it louder for Jeongyeon 🥲 Yuqi sounds amazing to me. And if it wasn’t for Wendy, Seulgi is a solid main vocalist in any other group 💃🏻 (Coming from a Wendy bias)

YES PLEASE MAKE A VIDEO ON NMIXX!! They've shown promising skills despite being rookies! Lily & Haewon's speechless cover still blows my mind.

i've been saying this for so long🤧joy should definitely be a lead vocalist, her tone is amazing and she's stable af edit: yuqiii she deserves lead vocal and lead rapper positions at least

Joy is deserved to be promoted from sub to lead vocal..

i totally agree with yuqi!! im glad her voice is finally being recognized her parts in idle’s new album scream MAIN VOCALIST material. honestly her voice has improved so much i honestly cant wait to hear more from her!

In their new album Dreamcatcher has a song called "Always," and Yoohyeon once again blew me away when they did a live radio performance for the song. Her voice is so beautiful and I think she has just as much vocal power as Siyeon (just different tones).

you should definitely check out SNSD and F(x), I know you've checked more of Taeyeon's work, but Seohyun is also an amazing vocalist and Taeyeon has different settings as a vocalist inside of SNSD (as she shares high notes with Jessica, Tiffany and Seohyun +their japanese songs are just something else and so are their bsides) F(x) is just AMAZING you'll love them, Luna is a vocal beast!

The problem with Minnie is that most of what Soyeon writes is inspired by her voice. A lot of music is therefore produced to suit her voice making her the main vocals.

From the first time I listened to Dreamcatcher, I honestly thought Yoohyeon WAS the main vocalist because she has one of the most distinct voices. Eventually I've come to realize the *power* in Siyeon that earned her the main vocalist position which is perfect for their groups concept. But yeah, Yoohyeon would make a great 2nd Main Vocalist!

This thing is that if you put Seulgi and Joy in other groups, they can be the main vocalist & if you put irene and yeri in other group, they can easily take lead vocalist position. That really show how amazing the vocal that red velvet have.

You will really like Purple Kiss, especially their main vocalist line. They have 3 main vocalist with different technique vocals! Anyway, they're Mamamoo little sister and just debuted last year. Highly recommended!

Yes, I really loved that you've heared about NMIXX, what a good vocal based group they are 👏👏👏. I also agree that JYP should let Lily sing in what style or technique she wants, I hope none of them will be overworked on their vocals

bruh what yuqi is a sub-vocal?! I could've sworn she was lead!

Make. Chaeryoung. A. Lead. Vocalist.

I thought Yuqi and Chaeryeong are lead vocalists. I like Yuqi's voice when she and Minnie sang Dua's song 'Lonely'

Ngl when I listened to Dreamcatcher for the first time, I thought Sua was a lead vocalist and was pretty surprised when I found out she wasn’t 😄 When it comes to Yoohyeon, she’s secretly another main vocalist looking at amount of lines she’s been getting. Personally, I’d like to have Handong and Gahyeon as lead vocalists in some songs. Love their voice colors a lot. Won’t be able to recommend any group as I mostly listen to 5 groups and you mentioned 4 of them (only Mamamoo missing). But watching Queendom, WJSN and Hyolyn seem to be quite interesting artists.

I recomend the next groups and a few solists: Purple kiss, they are fairly new and from the same agency as mamamoo so they have pretty decent vocalists. Sunmi, she is a pretty good idol overall, she is decent vocalist, dancer, wants to start rapping and she even writes and co-produces most of her music. G friend, they saddly disbanded but most of the members already debuted as solists and 3 of them debuted in their own trio, their vocals are top tier (specially Yuju and recently Eunha) Iz*one, they were such an iconic group that disbanded last year, two of the members are in ive now, so i think you might like their music when they were in iz*one. Chungha, she is the defitintion of an all rounder, her music is amazing and so are her skills.

Recommendations (not only girl groups and I am thinking about vocals): - Shinee (my utt group, the five of them can sing, but I highly recommend Onew's cover of Nessun Dorma and Excuse Me Miss bridge for Jonghyun) - Super Junior - SNSD (Into The New World ballad version is their most emotional performance, but I suggest you to watch fancams instead of the original video) - BESTie - Spica - 12Dal - Davichi - EXO - PinkFantasy

I would love to see the promotions happening! Especially to Yuqi. She really has the vocal skills for it! Because if you rank subvocalists of kpop girl groups, she could probably be up there. Yuqi would probably be on the top 3 of it, easily.

You should never shut up about Jeongyeon deserving more lines. Also, Joy, Chaeryoung, and SuA all DESERVE that lead vocal position. And Yoohyeon would be an incredible second main vocalist for Dreamcatcher without a doubt. I’d love to see a similar video on rap positions because in a lot of groups the lead positions need updated… (looking at you red velvet)

I would say: Rv: their positions are perfect, Joy isn't on the same level as Seulgi to be a lead vocalist as her, she is not even close to her (G) i-dle: I agree Yuqi must be a main vocalist as Miyeon and Minnie as a lead vocalist DC: Agree!! Yoohyeon is the best DC vocalist so making her a main vocalist is a must + Siyeon is weak technically and she isn't even close to Yoohyeon but she should stay as a main vocalist because her vocal really suits DC concepts Itzy: Agree in everything!! Agree with everything else!!

I'm going to pretend these are the real positions 😅

i love your video, thank you so much for adding dreamcatcher ♡ i think the exact same about fixing their vocal positions and i've been saying that for a long time

I definitely recommend Loona for girlgroups! They have a lot of diversity in vocal styles and have explored a lot of genres (including classical/orchestra, nostalgic synth-pop, a LOT of r&b especially the OEC subunit and the XX album) while still maintaining a cohesive dreamy moon concept. Haseul (who I believe trained as an opera singer before debuting) & Chuu are the main vocalists, while Kim Lip, Yves, Jinsoul, and Heejin are lead vocalists.

ooh.. sounds interesting. can't wait to hear your thoughts 😌 *EDIT* yesss.. I agree. Yoohyeon should be the other main vocalist and Sua should be lead vocal😍 yessss 👏🏽 👏🏽 👏🏽 give Jeongyeon more lines 🥺

Yes Yoohyeon deserves to change positions! My girl has improved so much! She's so good I'm so proud 🥰

Agree with everything but with the Minnie one lol also i think you can add nmixx, kep1er & ive

I really have a problem on twice and itzy they don't treat the members position well in twice they give jeongyeon amount of sub vocal lines and in itzy they treat yeji as main vocalist

Tbh I always saw yuqi as a better vocalist than Minnie

YESSSSSS tbh I think a lot of these official positions are just left that way on their profiles even if they change with time, I think they just forget LMAO but Joy is a lead vocal in my heart (and ghe tracks already :P)

Karina should be a lead vocalist alongside winter. Considering Karina is a mezzo-soprano, they’re pretty close in technique. Karina might even be a bit stronger.

Minnie is def main vocal material she tends to hit most of the high notes in gidle plus has alot of control over her voice

Yuqi is my favorite G-idle member, but I don't know if I can agree about her being main vocalist over Minnie. Yuqi can be a bit unstable at times when live, whereas Minnie is super stable when exploring different areas of her voice. Not to mention, Minnie's live cover of "Be Your Love" is insanely phenomenal and has me thinking she's almost better than Miyeon. I think both Yuqi and Minnie should be lead vocalists, but to say that Yuqi is main vocalist over Minnie....hmm.

Joy reminds me of Sunny, tho Sunny is a lead vocalist but very underappreciated, Joy also is. There are a lot of underappreciated vocalist in SM, such as Sulli, Amber, Sunny, Joy, Giselle

There first content I have watch/heard of Dreamcatcher other than Chase Me and Goodnight was the cover of Siyeon, Yoohyeon, and Sua of Winner's Really really. And I just fell in love with their voices. These three are literally by bias line.

We are here for the Joy appreciation!!

Yuqi is definitely more lead than main to me. I feel like Miyeon demonstrates a bit more freedom in the voice and technique and is a bit more versatile vocally. But I truly love Yuqi’s voice! Also Yoohyeon’s technique is honestly super underrated.

I would also check out Stayc, they seem really stable live.

I fully fully agree with you. No complaints. Great video!

I think Chaeyoung should have been trained and pushed as a lead vocalist, and Momo taken the raps in title tracks. Chaeyoung could still get her b-side raps, but take over the hard vocals on title tracks that Momo had to sing. I think they would have gotten a lot less hate for their encores that way.

Some kpop solo artists i'd recommend are leeHi, chungha, IU, Hyolyn, CL, Bibi, Heize, Hyuna groups-AKMU, loona, 2NE1, Apink, f(x), purple kiss, stayc For vocals definately check out Suhyun (AKMU), Eunji(Apink), Jamie, Luna f(x)

THANK YOU FOR THIS.

I’d say make Jeongyeon a 2nd main vocalist with Jihyo so they could both bring power and big notes to the chorus lines. Nayeon being the 3rd strongest vocalist in the group, and being the center, should be the only lead vocalist in TWICE, still get lots of lines and center time, just not as many extremely challenging parts like she’s been getting. One group that I personally need to switch their vocal and dance positions the most would be WJSN. Despite having some capable vocalists in the group, Starship hasn’t been utilizing them properly. This would be my opinion based on my knowledge of vocal pedagogy and my personal dance trainings Seola: 1st Lead vocalist, center, 3rd lead dancer Bona: visual, face of the group, 2nd main dancer, sub vocalist Exy: leader, main rapper, vocalist (she got the skills as a lead vocalist, but her priority should definitely be rap), 2nd lead dancer Luda: visual, sub vocalist Soobin: 2nd lead vocalist Dawon: 1st main vocalist Eunseo: 1st lead dancer, 2nd lead rapper Yeoreum: 1st main dancer, 1st lead rapper Dayoung: 3rd lead vocalist Yeunjung: 2nd main vocalist Basically WJSN would work like the model of SNSD OT9, with 2 main vocalists, 3 lead vocalists. Dawon is the similar case as Jeongyeon but more extreme, the most developed vocalist in the group yet is rather poorly utilized, giving her more challenging lines would definitely lessen Yeunjung’s constant pressure of handling the biggest notes. SeolA, Soobin, Dayoung, should be lead vocalists in this respective order, as SeolA is the strongest of the 3. Exy should probably get more singing lines aside from being the sole rapper of the group. Sure she is one of the strongest female rappers in Kpop imo but her singing deserves more recognition too. Yeoreum and Eunseo could fill up the sub rap lines like they’ve been doing. Giving them the lead rapper positions just makes them more official. Their dance line could use more clarified positions as well. I know Bona, Yeoreum, and Eunseo are already in dance line, but SeolA and Exy deserve their dance title too. Yeoreum and Bona should be the 2 main dancers, with Eunseo, Exy and SeolA being the lead dancers. Basically the dance line would be WJSN The Black + Yeoreum

You should do Everglow, I personality think their positions are inaccurate. And also, you should check out some groups with no official position like Ive, Le Sserafim, Stayc, etc and make a video about who would have a main vocal or lead vocal position. Great video btw

Didn't expect the Jisoo subrapper request! I highly support this! Let JISOO RAP

I agree wholeheartedly to the idle one, minnie sounds amazing, but majority of her singing lines are the same ones, cursive singing, yuqi on the other hand faces a lot different style in singing each comeback, plus she does all of them amazingly.

Can you look into lesserafim? the company hasnt really given them a lot to work with so far but theres a shit ton of Yunjin pre debut vocal content (Chaewon is also good)

I would recommend DreamNote. They haven't that big of a discography yet due to several hiatuses, but their music is great! You may have heard of their latest comeback with Ghost.

jeongyeon getting little lines despite being a lead vocalist will always remain an issue

Some of my recommendations: - The vocal line of purple kiss - SUHYUN of Akmu - Minseo (a soloist) - Seunghee of CLC - Loona (they have diverse techniques, one was an opera singer)

First! Very excited for this video (:

I HIGHLY recommend checking out more Everglow, even though only the main and lead vocalist stan out a good vocalist I think some of the sub vocalist hold a lot of potential!

100% agree with you chaeryong should be a lead vocalist. As girl group I recommand Nmixx, like you said the vocal line ( Haewon, Sulyoon and Lily) have a real potential. You can watch the cover of kill this love that the group made cause its great

I agree with everything, I just dont listen tô dreamcatcher. About Twice, Jeongyeon could be second main vocal If she receives a fair amount of lines. But in the reality, probably Nayeon would be a second main vocalist, since she sings the most. After them, Mina could be in the official vocal line, since she gets most lines after the 3 in the vocal line and her technique is also the best after them along Chaeyoung.

Groups id suggest to you probably would be definitely purple kiss. Im sure you would enjoy them, they have a lot of vocal content and a strong vocal line as well. Additionally i recommend brave girls, bvndit and wjsn :)

TWICE NEW POS; (I.M.O) NAYEON-LEAD VOCALIST,LEAD DANCER,SUB-RAPPER,CENTER & FOTG JEONGYEON-LEAD VOCALIST MOMO-MAIN DANCER,LEAD RAPPER,SUB-VOCALIST SANA-LEAD DANCER,SUB-VOCALIST,VISUAL JIHYO-MAIN VOCAL,MAIN DANCER,LEADER MINA-LEAD DANCER,SUB-VOCALIST,SUB-RAPPER DAHYUN-LEAD RAPPER,SUB-VOCAL,LEAD DANCER CHAEYOUNG-MAIN RAPPER,SUB-VOCAL TZUYU-SUB-VOCALIST,SUB-RAPPER,VISUAL,MAKNAE

a video we needed but we didn't realised it until we watched this

"Occasionally delivering some pretty decent vocals" i know this was suppose to be a compliment but it came off as such a read 😭

I would recommend checking out gugudan. They disbanded in 2020, but they were super talented vocally. Their main vocalist, Kim Sejeong, is a soloist now. AleXa and Yena are also soloists to look out for, and Denise Kim recently left her former group, Secret Number, where she was the main vocalist. She might have my favorite voice in kpop, so, while we don't really know if she plans on joining another company, I would listen to some of her covers in hopes of updates on her status as an idol.

SuA is already Main Dancer and Lead Rapper so I feel like she won't be able to be a Lead Vocalist. I mean she could but it would look like she was favored by the label. SuA is an all rounder and one of the most underappreciated idols of the 3rd gen. Yoohyeon as a main vocalist would make a lot of sense and tbh she's effectively been a one for a while. She's been taking on more of what Siyeon would have done in the past and it's what allowed SuA to do a bit more in the verses. I would like to recommend the Crossroads concert practice version of Black or White. Everyone sounds so good and it honestly made me notice Gahyeon more as a vocalist. 🥰

Yoohyeon is literally the best vocalist in Dream Catcher 😭

I felt like yuqi should be a main vocal and minnie two bc i love her prechorus in hwa

You should do a vídeo about mixing idols from different groups and giving them positions. Or inside groups that already exist, make subunits.

thank u! sua is definitely lead vocalist material

check out loona!! they're a big group, but they're the whole package imo. iz*one is disbanded now, but almost all of the members debuted solo/in other groups and they're definitely worth checking out. aaaaand!! ladies' code. sadly, a forgotten group that disbanded quite a while ago and had a huge tragedy happen to them, but their discography is flawless. regarding soloists - hyolyn and chungha.

Idk if you had but I think you should check out Eunji from Apink and Minah from Girls Day, both great vocals imo but I would like to see your opinions

some group recommendations !!! STAYC - Yoon deserves main vocal w/ Sieun and Seeun deserves lead w/ Isa EVERGLOW - Onda really needs her lead vocalist position back (: PURPLE KISS - do they even have a weak vocalist???? cause i can’t find one

Handong deserves a lead vocalist positon bye

recommendations: -purple kiss -wjsn -xg all 3 have insane vocalists dreamcatcher i wholly agree w/, yoohyeon and sua should be promoted lol ppl say siyeon isn't the best technical vocalist but her timbre just suits their rock sound so well it doesn't make sense to me if she isn't main vocal. and i mean she can sound good and can handle p difficult parts so... the other 3 (yoohyeon sua jiu) complement her very well anyway.. deukae is still a very strong group vocally cos of these 4

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Other groups may have more than 1 main vocalist In RV: be that level is not easy when Wendy is here

I hope you'll pay some attention to Purple Kiss. Like MAMAMOO, they are a very vocalist-oriented group and they have 3 main vocalists. They also have a great discography but seemed to be vastly underappreciated compared to other 4th gen gg. Please give them a listen and I'm sure you'll stan them real soon.

NMixx is them girls. They've put out so many covers that shows off all the members vocals, highly recommend them. Purple Kiss as well

I recommend you clc their songs are so good!

recommendations: - loona (i’d love to see you give them vocal positions!) - wjsn - clc - weeekly - everglow

For recommendations, my favorite group to recommend is 2NE1 being my first kpop group I listened to and my favorite. They are no longer together and they are from 2nd gen, but I still love their music and 3 of the 4 girls are active soloist so that could be fun to look into. Second would have to be a soloist who debuted in 2nd gen named Hyolyn. She’s honestly one of my favorite vocalist and performers. She’s killing it right now on Queendom. Another group I recommend is fromis_9. After hearing DM by them I fell in love. It was the first time I heard whistle tones in kpop (the other time being in some Mamamoo song I can’t remember the name of). And my last recommendation is a group that I think is pretty underrated named Brave Girls. They are probably one of the best kpop underdog stories and after many years of struggling to do well their song Rollin’ from 2017 beat out many favorites including BTS as the top song last year. They are my favorite group on Queendom 2 with my favorite from the first season being Park Bom formerly from 2NE1. I think they are a great group to listen to.

jeongyeon😭i love her voice

Fromis_9!! There’s one member who is a lead vocalist (I think her name is Hayoung) who has the abilities of a main vocal and sometimes gets the most amount of lines! Definitely worth checking out

i would strongly recommend checking out purple kiss. they’re a very well rounded group in terms of focusing both on dance and vocals, and have three main vocalists, but their lead vocal line is no joke. they have lots of covers predebut and post debut era that show off the members other than the main vocalists better than actual title tracks.

if you like darker/edgier kpop I'd definitely reccomend Pixy (AllArt) and Purple Kiss (RBW) because they have like more dreamcatcher dark horror-y vibes I think they're 3rd/4th gen? (every group after 2nd gen gets a little muddled for me) GWSN (not to be confused with WJSN) have a really nice dreamy quality to their music (I know you said only 3/4gen but like lemme slide some notable groups from 2nd gen for your consideration Brown Eyed Girls [sign, sixth sense, abracadabra] , Exid [ Every Night, I love you, Me & U], because I'm an old stan)

i would love to see a video covering loona, because they're a big group with a lot of vocals to cover. plus, with them rising in popularity thanks to being on queendom and their next comeback just around the corner, i think the timing is perfect!

omg what's that performance of yoohyeon?? it's great

when joy said " so im day dreaming " i heard ariana grande

You should check out Purple Kiss! they actually have a group full of vocalists (their rapper Yuki was trained as a vocalist at first before she willingly switched into rap after gaining interest in rapping), and their main vocalists are an absolute gem, heck even the rest of the group are gems when it comes to their vocals. They have plenty of covers that showcase each of their vocal colours

Waaaaaaahhhh!! Can't wait for you to be a doctor officially!! Congratulations in advance 💖