Flare now knows that she needs to learn more English considering the constant gaming with Irys and her Ina obsessiveness.
@rankoproseАй бұрын
That she is the one who has to remind IRYS she is in EN is hilarious
@DinnerForkTongueАй бұрын
And the Kaigai Elfriends in chat that she loves giving attention to.
@gizkadasha3989Ай бұрын
Well IRyS and Ina already know japanese, but I still hope that Flare learn more english
@666Tomato666Ай бұрын
@@gizkadasha3989 but with Ina the problem is that she doesn't interact much with, just through streams, and those are mainly English
@CATELlegend1Ай бұрын
correction: her full name now is ore no ina
@sanadabiege3789Ай бұрын
She really hit us with the "source: trust me bro"
@TheExecutorrАй бұрын
I knew they were friends, but I didn't realize they were actually besties. That's so cute
@benschmidt8168Ай бұрын
FlarYs was a surprising but amazing combo, much like Lui/Ayame and Subaru/Towa. Them being really good friends and not just co-workers really puts that extra magic into hololive.
@andresguerrero3347Ай бұрын
-Flare: I wish I had spent more time studying English, you never know if your best friend ends up being an English speaker. -The friend :🤓But I can talk perfect japane-.. -Flare: like I said, let's study hard guys, let's make an effort to learn more English!
@iDeLaYeD_oАй бұрын
Let's be honest, it's less about Irys and more about Ina
@StrikeNoir105EАй бұрын
I mean putting the onus of understanding on the other person can be considered kind of rude, and at the very least a modicum of effort into learning the other person's language goes a long way. There's a reason why even the least English-inclined JP members are now starting to pick up English one way or another to varying degrees. You'll also notice how many more new Hololive members tend to be either bilingual, or at least understand another language to be able to effect a minimal level of communication with them.
@oldrabbit8290Ай бұрын
@@iDeLaYeD_o who also speaks Japanese..
@PattyBurg2448Ай бұрын
@@oldrabbit8290 yes, but, Ina is less fluent than Irys is
@olimayАй бұрын
Even way before IRyS and her found they really clicked, Flare had said a bunch of times that she couldn't help but feel bad/embarrassed with non-JP members making the effort to communicate with her in Japanese when she can't reciprocate with their language(s). I'm sure she can see that other members, even ones she is close to like Polka, Marine, Miko, and Suisei just jump in shamelessly and do their best and no one thinks badly. Usually it's entertaining. But that's not Flare's personality: she cares a lot about a lot of things privately even when people say she doesn't have to and it's something overall, that is a big part of her charm. But even if she end up mostly talked about for My Ina, I think most Elfure are happy she is getting attention from kaigai-niki at all. So thanks for clipping this! I feel I also owe IRyS a thank you note for beginning to get Flare out of her shell, but I haven't even written a proper note to my own oshi because I want her to be able to read it and I am scared about making dumb Japanese grammar and handwriting mistakes... 😅
@thebigKM20Ай бұрын
You really don't appreciate how valuable it is to be able to communicate with people in different languages until you get older and it's much harder to learn them
@LetholdusKaspyrАй бұрын
They used to think the brain was just less plastic and able to learn languages as you get older, but as it turns out, when people got older, they gravitated to bad learning methods.
@pramitpratimdas8198Ай бұрын
Yes absolutely. Unless you are terminally senile, you can always learn new stuff. You only need patience and the right method of learning. Ofc self study cannot compete with institutionalised learning for most people but it shouldn't be a reason for giving up @@LetholdusKaspyr
@blackbomber72Ай бұрын
@@LetholdusKaspyr So its not over for me yet?! Good to hear
@finalfantasymadАй бұрын
@@LetholdusKaspyr Its 50/50 tbh. Actually learning the basics of a new language as an adult is significantly easier. Hell; if you put your mind to it and actually attend proper classes you can progress in a 2nd language much faster than you learnt your 1st even as an adult. As you say a lot of issues people have are bad learning methods/habits. What does come much more difficult is thinking and having an internal monologue in a 2nd language learnt as an adult. That does come much harder.
@metalninja2474Ай бұрын
It's not much harder because you should be able to critically think about, and work out, which learning methods work best for you without being forced to sit it a silent stuffy room against your will, being talked at for an hour or so. The hardest part will be dealing with time and motivation since you'll have other obligations as an adult like work and family. I'd suggest that you look into neuroplasticity
@easydusterАй бұрын
She calls Irys 大親友 that’s so cute.
@madao11111Ай бұрын
yep didnt expect her to say daishinyuu.
@wc9760Ай бұрын
It's really cute how their friendship has developed.
@remiremiremi111Ай бұрын
It's a terrible day for rain...
@SirFooplesTheThirdАй бұрын
Noel should go and claim Bea now
@kukuc96Ай бұрын
Does that phrase mean something deeper than the English "Best Friend" conveys?
@chlades4364Ай бұрын
flare calling irys her bestfriend makes me tear up
@puddingcatsteamboat6393Ай бұрын
that’s cute that Flare and IRyS are best buds now, i guess video games really can bring people together! i often watch their Splatoon collabs even though i don’t understand much both because i don’t know Japanese and i’ve never played Splatoon.
@Miki_NazАй бұрын
I never thought i'd need English in school, but now 90% of media i consume is either in English or with English subtitles.
@dombo81327 күн бұрын
Same, but fortunately I already spoke English natively, which made English classes much easier.
@DinnerForkTongue17 күн бұрын
Been like this for me since I was a child. Portuguese localization was rare for games and what little there was, was trash, so English was my only option. If anything English classes and dictionaries of back then infuriated me by their shallowness.
@aerthreepwood8021Ай бұрын
She's so precious.
@hadouken755Ай бұрын
flare is such a sweetheart
@MinizemfulАй бұрын
Even if you never leave your home town your entire life, the internet makes us all practically digital neighbors, more connected than ever. I wish I had the foresight to learn at least one other language when I was younger.
@DarkFenix2k5Ай бұрын
Same. On the plus side, the Internet also provides us the tools to fix that, and it's never too late to start.
@ColdRolandАй бұрын
I learened three other languages besides my own...and I I forgot two of them as soon as I left school. I am German. Guess which one I didn't forget, because I was constantly using it in Internet chats? :P
@bmanpuraАй бұрын
@@ColdRoland The frequency of use really matters. I learned a little German about 5 years ago, but now everything but the basics is gone. Pretty sad.
@DinnerForkTongueАй бұрын
Never too late to learn. I am learning Japanese as my third language, with plans to learn Spanish and Russian later, and I'm in my 30s. Especially now that the internet is brimming with free study material, references and sources, teaching tools, and ways to find like-minded contacts.
@hb-wanderer503129 күн бұрын
I remember really enjoying learning chinese in high school, definitely regretting a decade later letting my my lessons fall to the wayside after i didn't take classes for it
@Setsuzation26 күн бұрын
Flare's oshi: Ina Flare's best friend: Irys Hmmm yes, pointy ears attract fellow pointy ears
@extremely_human8598Ай бұрын
I adore Flare in more ways than one. She's a pure soul, always has been. And she's so honest with her chat. Like Polka, she's quite enamored with EN, and it's so cute to watch.
@DinnerForkTongueАй бұрын
And by EN I'm assuming you mean both the talents and the fans, right? Because their interactions with kaigai niki are very frequent, and in Polka's case, can be very involved! Like earlier this week when a supa asked Polpol for a few tourist spots in Japanese cities for him to see on his first trip to Japan, and Polka and chat spent like 10-15 minutes pondering answers. It wasn't even a magenta supa or nothing, just a smol green one, and yet she gave it a lot of attention.
@samazam4221Ай бұрын
You know its real when they dont bother being lovey dovey yuri bait about it. Flare and Irys are really true bros.
@ozenthelewdable5427Ай бұрын
That's Black Company shit. Welcome to Hololive, brotha.
@flaming_water8603Ай бұрын
@@ozenthelewdable5427bro what? This ain’t a certain black rainbow
@LP-tf7cyАй бұрын
@@ozenthelewdable5427 plenty of hololivers kinda yuri bait their friendship. It's part of idol culture, and is very present with friendships like Mori and Kiara, or Bae and IRyS.
@dirckthedork-knight1201Ай бұрын
I hate that shit glad they are being honest
@DinnerForkTongueАй бұрын
@@ozenthelewdable5427 Except Hololive is _the_ yuri bait company, brother.
@RijaMoАй бұрын
Flare and Irys just got really close fairly recently right? I'm jealous of them. Finding a best friend as an adult is almost unheard of.
@doggosukiАй бұрын
guh, this comment hurt me in the soul
@neeha944924 күн бұрын
And they're very real friendship too! I have lots of 'close friends' but can't say I have a best friend. It's really hard finding a best friend you can stick with for long.
@raysftw28 күн бұрын
“I never thought a woman who spoke English would be my best friend.” 😭😭😭😭
@tevlar26 күн бұрын
English is such a massive language and theres so much english content on internet it must be like a whole new world for people that learns english for the first time.
@SKy_the_Thunder28 күн бұрын
Even as a continental European I _could_ technically get by without knowing any English - but learning it early opened up so many possibilities I would have otherwise missed out on. These days I use it more than my native language. Japan keeps more to itself, but even there you'll benefit a lot from it. Opens up so much more entertainment content, sources of information, communities, business opportunities, etc... Even just being able to put it on your resume will help you a lot.
@SeanCrosserАй бұрын
Shinyuu is already pretty big, she then hit her with the DAI
@stevenkranowski5141Ай бұрын
Someone sign up this half-elf for one of Calli's English lessons, stat!
@KingOfYamimakaiАй бұрын
Which sadly is currently unavailable as Dad is currently at her parents' place recovering from her hip surgery.
@DinnerForkTongue17 күн бұрын
@@KingOfYamimakai Knee, not hip. Not quite as bad, thankfully.
@goukenslay7555Ай бұрын
its such a wonderful twists of events that lead to her meeting and befriending IRyS
@VernnellАй бұрын
I remember when I was playing and old mmo, the need to speak to my guildmates was hard at first, and the best motivation for it is that you will be able to communicate with them. I start with simple greetings, them with short questions and then putting sentences together. If I didn't learn back then, today I could not enjoy many of the clips and streams of Hololive, speak to so many people aboard, understand my favorite games that were not translated, learning other languages open a new wolrd for anyone and is simply beautiful. Sigo con algunos errores al escribir, pero aun asi pude comunicarme como siempre desee.
@user-ow6oj4bw8sАй бұрын
Hombre, ¿Español és tu lengua madre? ¡Que bueno! Estoy estudiando español hace algunos años y a mi me gusta mucho apreyenderla, pero yo hago todavia muchos errores y no me queda facil entendier algunos accentos de algunas regiones. ¡Sin embargo, sigo estudiando y quizás algun dia estaré hablando como un nativo! Sorry for my mistakes, just like I said previously, I am not neither a native speaker of English nor Spanish, but I love to learn I want to learn more and more languages!
@Lee-fw5bdАй бұрын
me with spanish. I learned a bit but never took it too seriously and now I'm the only person who doesn't speak spanish at my office.
@edenromanovАй бұрын
As someone who lives in California I'll forever be grateful to my parents for sticking me in a Bilingual elementary school, been speaking Spanish at a near native level ever since, sometimes even better than my Mexican friends 😂 If you have an opportunity to learn a language young you should absolutely take it!
@crash.overrideАй бұрын
I'm absolutely puzzled as to what kind of office that is, aside from import/export, or manufacture of a Latino product. It's nice to not butcher the pronunciation of food names at a taqueria/cantina/etc. though.
@Lee-fw5bdАй бұрын
@crash.override It's not all that interesting. It's an engineering and fabrication company made by an American (who mostly does international work so I rarely see him), a Venezuelan, and a Mexican. Much like most small companies, its rife with nepotism so the majority of employees are also immigrants. I'm from Texas, so it's not an especially uncommon phenomenon. just unexpected and not what highschool me would think to prepare for haha
@kokorochacarero800329 күн бұрын
Consider the following: If you learn spanish, you'll eventually be able to go back into the holy archives, listen to Coco singing Despacito and understand why it's so hillarious to us
@noble_wine25 күн бұрын
The power of gaming brings people together.
@Micheldied27 күн бұрын
English is my first language, but I feel the same way about Japanese. I went to Japan all the time when younger, and my mom speaks it fluently, but I never bothered to learn it until recently even though I love Japan and Japanese media. It's a big regretty spaghetti that I didn't bother trying to pick it up earlier (as well as a few other languages I could converse in at a basic level when younger and just never used and forgot as I got older).
@WWEdeadmanАй бұрын
As somebody who isn't an English native speaker, but speaks English on basically a native level, I can say: I'd be missing out on so much content if I hadn't learned it. That alone should be enough motivation for anyone. Hell, I wish I had picked up a third language earlier, cause it gets harder to pick up new languages as you get older. Like, I've been learning Japanese on the side for a few years now, but I'm still nowhere near the level I want to be at.
@DinnerForkTongue17 күн бұрын
It's not a matter of age, it's how much your practice and how you organize the time dedicated to it. If inability to learn was an age thing, we wouldn't have 60+ elders in university absolutely NAILING tests and assignments.
@WWEdeadman17 күн бұрын
@@DinnerForkTongue I never said you CAN'T learn anything when you're older, I said it GETS HARDER TO. And that's a scientifically proven fact.
@dlcyKing16 күн бұрын
@@WWEdeadman that was actually disproven. It's just that the standard teaching methods , especially used in business level classes, are less effective to people who unlike children don't have the same time. Additionally keeping your mind sharp helps a ton, especially if you commonly solve logical problems. Math, immersion (content with no subtitles at all but has characters acting out their words into action) , a dictionary and an introductory grammar book go a long way.
@bushwookie243817 күн бұрын
language is one of the best skills one can learn
@daniel-ix8wxАй бұрын
english speakers in japan x10 after this clip
@Am4t3r4su21 күн бұрын
This is why the bilingual holomembers are so valuable tho. Kiara speaks 9 languages... and has been a bridge for her gen mates on outings and such. Calli as well. Having that skill set is incredibly useful.
@timepatroltrunks8276Ай бұрын
wholesome
@d0kraz481Ай бұрын
its good when you have passion to do something good
@dad-babyАй бұрын
Dont worry flare-chan you can always rely on your elite senpai
@yong9613Ай бұрын
Custom officer: How much money did you bring? Elite: Two weeks!
@Saintjohn2711Ай бұрын
@@yong9613 I always get a chuckle out of this 😂
@Claymore729Ай бұрын
@@yong9613 The great thing about English is that that's actually a comprehensible sentence with just a little thinking. I'm not sure it'd be the same in other languages.
@yong9613Ай бұрын
@@Claymore729 I'm not a linguist, so I can't help you with this.. all I can say is English being the most used language in all of the big cities in the world will at least have the effect of trickle down it's usage one way or another with or without understanding the context..
@sboinkthelegday3892Ай бұрын
@@Claymore729 "with thinking", so people have to think because you didn't, and never will. Even with you ASSUMING, not thinking even for a second, that English makes sense because you already know it. English is literally nonsense, like question statments being only SIDE clauses that omit the operative word: "Are you here?" "Why are you here?" "You are here?" is not actually included in the grammar except as "are you here?". Most langauges don't require you to REPALCE SPEAKING with this "thinking" by memorization, of random grammatical rules. You just ACTUALLY SAY IT. What do you have to say for yourself? "I have to say" means you CAN say something and should because applying your means would be decent. But English omits it to "have" in a way tha you ahve never ONCE thought about. " I do have" You do what? You have what? This means you "do it in" by placing it on the table, SO TO SPEAK. But because your langue is totally inbred, I have to use these inventive metaphors to even DESCRIBE waht your own langue means, becaus eoyu've never once thought about it. But that is the accurate etymology of why "do" and "have" are used in these ways as filler words. On their face they mean NOTHING, no matter how long you "think" about it.
@johndudedАй бұрын
Thank you for translating. This was very interesting.
@calimantisАй бұрын
Hearing Flare refer to IRyS as her best friend warms my heart so much I think it's about to explode
@Paradox-es3blАй бұрын
Lucky her, IRyS is JP 🤷♀️
@Superhero18Ай бұрын
This is my first clip ever of Flare and even though I’m on the EN(us) side, instant subscribe. She’s like a chillax gal type of character you can always get along with
@mastema610Ай бұрын
she's one of the most genuine and mature, she rather not talk than lie. your next clip to watch is "korone gift flare"
@AhhthurАй бұрын
What a heartwarming clip. Good friends can come from unexpected places. I'm glad she found IRyS!
@hayatojin2886Ай бұрын
best friends, so cute
@maninredhelmАй бұрын
The trouble is, even if students double their efforts, Japanese high schools teach English poorly. It's like training hard to become a professional fighter, but you learned your techniques from a WWE pro wrestler.
@TerralventheАй бұрын
Japan's English level is fairly low largely because Japan is so very self-sufficient. Other countries usually have an over-exposure of 'Americana' through films and TV shows and video games and get exposed to English that way. Japanese people almost never need to indulge in foreign products, and even when they do there's almost always a JP dub for it. Because of that, there's less exposure on a casual level which leads to a significantly lower retention of the language compared to other countries being exposed to English.
@CybersteelExАй бұрын
@@Terralventhein his eyes, the greatest symbiotic parasite man has ever known isn't microbial, it's linguistic. The English parasite kills the host countries language and erases all the culture and traditions along with it.
@matrielleАй бұрын
It's that bad in those schools ? What about the American and Brits who are hired as English teachers for those schools ? Are they forced to use the Japanese "methodology" ? In the country I grew up, English and other languages were taught by competent teachers but their impact on your graduation was so negligible that most students would just not care. On a brighter note, imagine The Macho Man Randy Savage teaching you English and Bret Hart teaching you French.
@7QWERTY13Ай бұрын
Japan needs a Cure Dolly to teach them English.
@TerralventheАй бұрын
@@matrielle I'm a teacher in Japan in the region that has the HIGHEST English competence level in the entire country, as it were. I'm also not from England but am fluently bilingual in my native language. I will say this much for the elementary level of students: Five to six years olds in my country rate higher than most Japanese ten to twelve year olds. In fact as they get older their competence only increases. And this is when in my country we don't start teaching English to elementary school children until they are around eleven or twelve years old, whereas in this region of Japan the English lessons start as early as the first grade. Again, I chalk it up to exposure. If you aren't hearing or seeing it on a regular enough basis, your retention levels will always be negligible. Current Japanese approach to teaching is to encourage the children to speak with one another to increase their active use of the language but that's still only one to two classes a week at best. Honestly if it were up to me I'd encourage Japanese kids to watch their favourite shows with English dubs on things like Netflix, if for no other reason than to hear the language.
@planguy9575Ай бұрын
Flare: Listen, I'm not saying you are going to become a vtuber, but you are probably going to become a vtuber and you are going to need to know English. Like, 80 percent chance.
@olimayАй бұрын
So, two things for everyone who is just shocked here: Flare as well as a lot of JP Holomem come from a different demographic from most kaigai niki, nationality aside. If you listen to their stories, a lot of them just didn't like studying or school in general, and turned to gaming, streaming, and hanging out on the internet as an escape. Meanwhile, a lot of us kaigai niki are nerdy as well as geeky, and are relatively outward looking, even in the fact that we're open to the idea of vtubers. Next, Flare is talking about at least 10-15 years ago when she was still in school, and Japan was coming out of a long period where most people in Japan really could pretty have everything you want just in Japanese, thanks to translation efforts that started in the Meiji era. Later on, Japan was the 2nd largest economy during most of the era of globalization, which is also when most of the world began to feel the pressure/importance of English communication in a global economy. Ken Mogi (neuroscientist/physicist/author/popular commentator) had a good summary of that history here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/kNKGhJuT0qyzoGg.htmlsi=pc4EgxJUOttxdcGC I don't think young people in Japan with regular career ambitions need to be told twice to learn English nowadays. I live in the US but meet online with some university science students in Yamaguchi prefecture so they have a native English speaker to practice English conversation with. I only meet with them once a week (because I need to wake up at 4:30AM my time to do that) but most of them do English conversation practice five days a week in groups, on top of their lab experiments, practical training, coursework, and even one on one language exchange. I'm really proud of them!
@kukuc96Ай бұрын
Being an island, pretty large and populous, and having a long history of isolationism probably also contributes. Here in Europe, where a lot of countries are small, and border 5 others with about 4 different languages, it's a given that you will need English, and not speaking it is a huge handicap for ones career.
@Micheldied27 күн бұрын
I don't know what you're talking about I hated school lmao. I've always been a nerd but not for academics.
@katacutieАй бұрын
That's wholesome
@Bulldogg6404Ай бұрын
I've had people hold up translation tools when I work customer service sometimes. It doesn't bother me at all. I'm probably gonna need to use one too, someday, if I finally get to travel.
@Majadi7Ай бұрын
I know flares feelings well, I wish I would've studied jp during school would've been way easier than trying to while working, still its gonna be worth it even now :D
@tuliomesquita1294Ай бұрын
That's Very cute of her, and she's right. Learning English has most definetly changed my life growing up, so many Doors have opened for me that i imagine It would be the same for any student on this current online world
@SMGCTvАй бұрын
Flare - if you go abroad at least have someone with you Me who goes japan alone despite little knowledge of japanese 😂😂😂
@7QWERTY13Ай бұрын
"I had no idea that my best friend was in EN." My heart. Listeners, what friendship opportunities do we deny ourselves?
@boredgamer7841Ай бұрын
As someone who lives in tiny EU country Denmark, globalization makes it nearly impossible to not need english, even if you just stay in your own country and never travel "abroad". Just being on the internet, watching movies/shows, or playing games, I probably "use", as in read/listen to/write, English more than my native language every day. I would feel crippled if I didn't understand English.
@Subjectivity1328 күн бұрын
Man, living the last 221 years all in Japan would be wild. From the Edo period, with samurai in power under the Tokugawa shogunate, to Commodore Perry arriving with his fleet, the Meiji Restoration, Imperial Japan, a lot of wars, then modernization and the economic bubble, until now. It’s been a couple crazy centuries there, way more wild than the last 200 years here in the US. I can’t imagine never leaving my own country, especially if it was as small as Japan. I leave the US every year at this point.
@zomfgroflmao1337Ай бұрын
I have to agree there, learning English is super important, not just for fun like speaking with international friends, but most technical stuff or programming is done in English, not to mention how important it can be to look at international news to have an outside look at whatever is happening in your country, in broadens your horizons tenfold and stops you from being blind in a bubble of your own native language. English is also a pretty simple language to learn, it has a pretty simple ruleset and not too many words or exceptions, which makes it a very good lingua franca.
@firstnamelastname8439Ай бұрын
English is not a simple language to learn. Especially if you're Japanese. Just to begin with, English has _way_ more sounds than Japanese. English grammar is honestly a lot more complicated than Japanese grammar - seriously, if you directly translate Japanese to English, word for word, it sounds like a caveman, because it's missing so many of the minir details in English like articles - and spelling requires remembering about as many special cases and exceptions as Japanese, albeit without the need to remember thousands of Kanji.
@clou09Ай бұрын
@@firstnamelastname8439 to be fair, at least the alphabet is a whole thousand times simpler than any moonrunes of any language. Having that as its foundation greatly simplifies learning the language.
@user-ow6oj4bw8sАй бұрын
I agree with the main point of your idea, English, for better or for worse, is indeed a game changer in the global perspective nowadays. However I definetly dont think English is an easy language at all, because it really depends of the context. I am aware you might have written that with no bad intentions, but to whoever might be reading this and have struggled a lot to study English, please dont think any less of yourself, I know VERY WELL how English can be really difficult to learn, especially if your mother tongue doesnt share any similarities with English, just like in my case❤.
@zomfgroflmao1337Ай бұрын
@@firstnamelastname8439 I think you people miss the point, English is indeed way easier to learn than most other languages or does anyone want to argue that it is harder than German, French, Chinese or even Spanish? English has way less words, a smaller alphabet and simpler rules (a lot of languages have gendered articles for example, English just uses 'the' for everything). I'm not saying that English is easy to learn, but compared to the difficulties other languages present and how widely it is used there is not even a comparison, even if you start from zero.
@firstnamelastname8439Ай бұрын
@@zomfgroflmao1337 You could actually make the argument that German, Spanish, etc are easier. A few more rules is arguably less of an obstacle than English, with it's exceptions and special cases everywhere.
@bmanpuraАй бұрын
To all the high school students who say math is useless, study well - it's really useful for a lot of things. The same goes to every other branches of studies; social studies, natural sciences, and arts.. I regret not taking my arts classes seriously.
@TheTickyTickyTickyАй бұрын
People : math unnecessary Taxes and loans : bonjour
@ColdRolandАй бұрын
That's not English! That's German according to Kobo.
@U1TR4F0RCE17 күн бұрын
There’s also stuff where if you have the goal of having your own place math is pretty important for the whole placement of stuff
@AwesomeAxolotltАй бұрын
not learning english nowadays is like wanting to live under a rock… I guess there's auto translation now, but it's still different when you understand it natively
@raidthegoose7241Ай бұрын
I learned english because it was so cool to me and also because of the influence on western movies.
@nullpo2478Ай бұрын
Any language really. Learning language is never a wasted effort. Back in High school I slacked off my Chinese class, focusing more on Korean and Japanese. High school me didn't know in 6 years he'll be living on Taiwan, having to relearn Chinese from 0 since he slacked off. At least the Japanese is used since I work at Japanese company. The korean is unused though, but who knows what the future might hold.
@watataenjoyerАй бұрын
Aww best friend rys
@stolas2393Ай бұрын
cuuuuuuute
@theepicslayer7sss10120 күн бұрын
also, if they play online games, they might have to interact with English or even on social media, comment sections are often mixed with many languages and commonly English.
@KofjaАй бұрын
What I want parent's to tell their children, is "learn English, it makes using the internet easier" because it does. internet is mostly in English, and almost everyone knows some English.
@Karamaru_CrowАй бұрын
One of the major problems is also that parents, teachers, and other authority figures don't encourage them to learn a second language, saying things like "Oh, you will never go abroad," etc. It's really a sad state of affairs and how much your world expands when you learn a second language, and it even doesn't have to be English. Japan has a huge Brazilian population, so Portuguese would also work.
@YueShenDianАй бұрын
ngl back in school I also don't think i will be using english since there's no foreigner in my neighbourhood and I don't think i will go abroad. and then internet happen.
@XYousoroАй бұрын
There's one reason for Flare to learn some English *To be able to reach out to the overseas Elfriends*
@Kite40329 күн бұрын
Flare is right though. I wish my high school invested more in their foreign language classes. I took Japanese, but there was also Russian, German, Spanish, and English as a Second Language. Even just cursory knowledge of basic words and reading comprehension can open up a little more of the world to you :D
@BerylLxАй бұрын
Thank god the only kind of advice I got about learning Mandarin was, "What if you have to go to China for work?"
@angelquinones9201Ай бұрын
thank you for the translation
@thecreepers5399Ай бұрын
Flare is so sweet!
@Sparking_Ram29 күн бұрын
Now I feel like I should learn some Japanese so I can understand their vods. I hadn't really kept up with Irys or Flare but "Best Friend" is a really high honor they must be amazing together.
@straysheep5312Ай бұрын
I wish I can say the same for me tho. I don't think if I study Japanese I will find myself needing it (currently live in the US). I would honestly have to pursue Japanese people (which don't really live here) to practice and make friends with.
@seisuke8650Ай бұрын
This is specially sweet if you consider that IRyS can speak japanese with no problem, but Flare still feels like she has to put the effort to communicate better with her friend FlarYs teetee
@piskipaАй бұрын
As a spanish speaker from south america, English is by far the most useful subject you can learn at school, not even close.
@yong9613Ай бұрын
Eh?🤔 Spanish not the 2nd ligua franca of western world??
@piskipaАй бұрын
@@yong9613 English is still useful for pretty much everyone. I sell stuff online and have to communicate in english with people from china, I studied computer science and pretty much every programming language is in english, same applies to pretty much everything.. wanna be a doctor? You'll find way more papers and studies of any medical area in english, apply the same logic to every other topic.
@luka18822 күн бұрын
@@yong9613 It is yes, but it's not nearly spoken enough. The universal language spoken in both the US and EU is English, which comprises the "western world" pretty much, Spanish is very small and almost useless in comparison as a language to really participate in the western world. Almost all international communication or online communication is in English, even beyond just the western world. I'm sure you can get by totally fine not learning any English if you are from South America and just learn Spanish, however you'll be cut off from any international opportunities and have a limited bubble online to participate in compared if you know both languages. Anyone benefits from learning even just basic English.
@RoamingSimpАй бұрын
I felt Dejavu like Flare talk about this before
@DflowenАй бұрын
Good stuff Flare encouraging her viewers to learn English. The "You Never Know" situation comes up like new friends, traveling or career opportunities abroad will be beneficial.
@ArmaCustosАй бұрын
221 years?? she's just a baby!
@ZwrPАй бұрын
i bet having "speaks english" in your resume as a japanese person will get you priority in interviews lol
@4473021Ай бұрын
She must learn English for her kami Oshi Ina
@andrewvalentine6977Ай бұрын
Learning French was mandatory at my school. I was taught it for 6 years and was still terrible at it. Guess I got no aptitude for languages. It was also a subject I hated but I kind of regret not being able learn it better.
@prechabahnglai10328 күн бұрын
If nothing else, just imagine how cool it would be to speak a foreign language.
@TjadАй бұрын
Without english, i cant find any doujinship in internet 😂
@cursedboyirАй бұрын
I feel her cause there's a urgent matter to learn spanish for is Americans.
@SmokeHouse69Ай бұрын
meanwhile there is me trying to juggle 7 different languages daily (3 or 4 of them due to differect state/district have their own dialect) because living in multicultural country. sadly i cant read chinese eventho i can speak them
@KEN-fn2ld26 күн бұрын
I love she said IRys is best friend
@mllfth8089Ай бұрын
you never know your oshi gonna be japanese so start learn japanese now!
@DefectivePotato95Ай бұрын
As someone that has been all over the world including some small 3rd world countrys I know English is all you need. helps if you know a small amount of spanish but basicly everywhere in the world knows a basic amount of english so its easy to get by.
@Nekophiliac29 күн бұрын
This means I can start watching more Live Flare instead of having to wait for translated clips?!?! 🥳
@azurerider812Ай бұрын
I share her regret but for Japanese
@Billy4321ableАй бұрын
It's really easy to forget how privileged you are if you grew up speaking English. Tons of tourism spots around the world cater towards the massive English speaking demographic as we're one of, if not the largest population that vacations all over the world. It's much harder if you come from a place like Japan where it's hard to even get around in a foreign country, much less communicate with the locals.
@DarkQuill28 күн бұрын
Oh my god she is too sweet
@vitatreat9037Ай бұрын
I had no idea that my waifu was in JP
@SukacitaYeremiaАй бұрын
If you're good at natural sciences, learn english. If you're good at social sciences, learn math.
@zaiwexАй бұрын
I am glad that I studied Japanese when I was younger. I am able to communicate with Japanese online in the game. We added each other as friends.
@demonicspire1345Ай бұрын
America is a little strange in that there is no actual official language. In theory for most official proceedings the government is required to make some accomodation for whatever language a person speaks. I'm 95% certain that if you're arriving at the Honolulu or San Francisco international airports (which are the most likely ones for a Japanese person visiting the US to use) there is *someone* on staff who speaks Japanese and if the immigration people really can't understand you they will call them over before doing anything extreme like barring you from entry. In the same way as I found people in Japan to be very accomodating of my not speaking Japanese, most people in the US are going to be accomodating of you not speaking English. Given how well known things like google translate are, I also don't expect much trouble from using something like PokeTalk. I think most people would understand it pretty quickly after they saw it used once.
@mathieul4303Ай бұрын
She’s right
@rauden340Ай бұрын
I'm so glad Flare has found a great friend in Irys
@DarkagmaАй бұрын
Best friend. What a development!
@joelmichaelviado1226Ай бұрын
I live in a 3rd world. English is mandatory because my 1st language is only a cultural necessity, but an econonic deadweight. I can erase my 1st language completely from my brain and suffer no consequences. It still amazes me that 1st world countries like Japan are insular enough that they can afford to ignore learning what is one of the most globally spoken language on this earth and just care about their own native tongue amd be fine.
@yong9613Ай бұрын
Japanese in Asia is almost the equivalent of Germans in Europe
@olimayАй бұрын
Scientist/commentator Ken Mogi explained that starting in the Meiji era, there was a huge push to translate works of science, literature, law, and philosophy into Japanese, and that this effort was a massive success, making a large amount of the world's intellectual output at the time accessible to ordinary Japanese people. In the post WWII period Japan was focused on domestic growth, and then for much of the early period of globalization, Japan was the 2nd largest economy after the US. Mogi (who is fluent in English himself and did graduate work in theoretical physics in Cambridge) talks about how for a long time, Japan was sort of a paradise where you could have everything you could possibly want with just Japanese, at least for most people. So while it's amazing the translation efforts succeeded, it also had side effects. Putting the separate history aside, I can understand that because it's the attitude of most people in America in until now --- and, yeah, even if their idea that "everything is accessible in English, who cares" is true now, and even more true than it was in Japan through the early 2000's, it's not going to be true forever. Things are changing, though! Maybe slackers and disaffected youth are still indifferent, but overall I think young people don't need to be told twice to focus on English. I wake up at 4:30 every Thursday US Eastern time to talk to some university science students in Yamaguchi Prefecture, so they can practice English conversation. I only meet with them once a week, but most of them attend conversation practice at least five times a week, on top of running their lab experiments, coursework, and practical training (some are in pharmacy science).
@adriancentra23 күн бұрын
@@yong9613can you elaborate? I agree in some ways but regarding English learning and globalization, I thought we Germans were doing quite well.
@yong961323 күн бұрын
@@adriancentra I meant society and laws and that's only in a general sense within the geopolitical relationship of Far East and SE Asia
@CatNolaraАй бұрын
I'm ESL too, my parents barely know any english and I noticed with the internet and all how much of the world opens up to you if you can understand, write and speak english. Also I would propably not have been able to watch any Hololive without knowing english, so it would have gone past me (like a lot of other things too). Also there are lots of jobs that require you to travel to clients/customers in other countries, and most countries in the world teach english as second language. It has really become a universal language, and even if you aren't fluent, it's better than not being able to communicate at all.
@7QWERTY13Ай бұрын
It took getting interested in Hololive for me to have the epiphany, as a lifelong weeb: there will NEVER be enough translators. For weebs who do not know or learn Japanese, the Japanese popular culture available to them is but crumbs of crumbs. You can read/watch all the popular manga/anime after they're translated, sure, but beyond that? Only what a translator both notices AND chooses to go through the effort to show you. The true extent of the iceberg is beyond us. And I could either carry on as before, dooming myself to merely wishing I could understand Japanese, begging for those crumbs forever, or I could take that plunge and commit to learning it for real and become my own gatekeeper.
@Kairukurumi25 күн бұрын
If only most Americans had that same mindset
@DinnerForkTongueАй бұрын
I wouldn't even go by the angle of going abroad, though obviously Fu-tan is citing that case from personal experience. It's always a good idea to study the _lingua franca_ of the day. It was true with Latin, it was true with Portuguese, with Dutch, with Spanish, now with English, and in the future probably Mandarin. Even if you live in a distant isolated backwater like I do, knowing the most commonly used language between people of different countries massively expands your horizons and opportunities. In the vtuber world, there is no better example of payoff from learning English than Pikamee. (Coco doesn't count, she's American.) She became a global sensation, beloved in essentially every continent, _because_ she was a competent ESL.
@athras8822Ай бұрын
Pretty sure Pika was born in the US and raised in Japan in her teenage years, so she has an American parent. I don't really consider in her case "learning" English per say, since she's kind of born in a home environment that can naturally induce the language, which is a much much more efficient way to be proficient.
@DinnerForkTongueАй бұрын
@@athras8822 No she wasn't. She was born in Japan and raised there and only went to the US for family visits occasionally. She has even said that she wanted to practice her Eigo to be able to connect with Papanya's side of her family more easily.
@azurerider812Ай бұрын
I hope we dont get to Mandarin because the dreadful has happened then.
@greene6226Ай бұрын
I actually doubt Mandarin will become the lingua franca. It has a major barrier to entry in 2 ways that would make that difficult. First, it's a complicated tonal language so people who don't speak complicated tonal languages have a hard time learning to speak or understand it. Second, because of its spoken structure a phonetic alphabet would be very difficult to create which is why Chinese characters are not phonetic. This means reinforcing written with verbal language and vise versa is much harder. English is the bastard child of like 4 different languages so it's got contradictions to every rule and a wacky natural rhythm but even if you don't get the rhythm right and don't pronounce things very well you'll get a lot of useful mileage out of it. There are easier languages than english and harder languages than Mandrin but if reaching a useful proficiency with English is medium difficulty, reaching a useful proficiency with Mandrin is a ways into hard mode.
@DinnerForkTongueАй бұрын
@@azurerider812 It is inevitable, gringo. The sun is setting on the Anglo-Saxon patriciate. You can't go against the motion of history, it's only gonna hurt more.