You cannot use rpm under load for anything because you cannot exactly specify the amount of load. And without that the value doesn't tell you anything. So you go with no-load RPM, then you use amperage to calculate torque and voila, you have an objective number for performance.

Love my rear handle Metabo ‼️ the weight difference is the reason I bought it. I sold my newer DeWalt as soon as the Metabo arrived

New metabo is 8.2, new flex is 10lbs, since your happy with less performance already just use the flex with a 5ah/6ah pack and enjoy a lighter saw w battery with more power than that metabo at nearly the same weight. Then when you max power or runtime throw the 10ah in.

@@brianbush9453 Brian you must not be a framer As mentioned before from multiple carpenters and with the tip framers in our area Raw power is nice but not what makes a good framing saw We do have the previously More.powerful.Dewalt.flexvolt.and Milwaukee but most.of.our guys chose the 2x18(36V) as it cuts.better and has plenty of power to get the jobs done,we recently purchased two Metabo HPT's and not only is it more powerful than the Makita but is much lighter, better site lines and overall is a joy to use when framing We have had a Flex on jobsite and it is similar to the DeWalt Flexvolt in power and weight-pretty good.saw but the overall functionality and ergonomics just aren't as good as the rear handle Metabo HPT and that's not just my opinion but the opinion of all of our framers and others who have tried it out as well as a bunch of guys all over the world when they get their hands on it-plus it's better priced and their line is more robust and have the best nailers.in the business-Hope u enjoy your Flex-

@@baseballdude8491 agree 100% on the nailers.. Outstanding framer and 18g. So you have already had a pre released flex rear handle to compare ergonomics and use.. or your saying it doesn’t matter you actually haven’t compared the two you just like the metabo rear handle regardless and this was all some strange hijack?

@@baseballdude8491 also it’s nice flex gave you led and dust port option great if your cutting inside or under a tent and not outside 100% of the time. Better bevel settings and can easily make similar weight using a similarly small battery as the metabo 4ah pack that your on. The ability to plug in is good you’ll need it w the metabo with the 10ah pack on the flex you’d be hard pressed to run more than a pack in a work day.

I guest not very long i saw a review on others chanels and this saw cut out fast

Well I only bought my Flex tool Quick Eject Impact Driver and Turbo Hammer Drill kit and Flex baseline or basic impact driver and Inline 6-1/2" circular saw, Angle Grinder, and 7-1/2 Rear Handle saw with 3.5Ah, 6.0Ah and 12Ah Stacked lithium 24V battery just only for a Showoff and Showdown tools against the Milwaukee fanboys in my jobsite. And the Milwaukee boys got destroyed and humiliated by the power of the Flex tools have. But most of the time I'm only using DeWalt, Makita, Bosch, Ryobi, Hitachi, Craftsman and Harbor Freight Hercules tools both cordless and corded tools in my jobsite. When I need the rotate all my tools I also uses my flex tools in my jobsite in routine basis.

@Flip The Pickle no way really I’m in NSW and can’t find flex tools anywhere. I have even tried to contact flex but it’s not easy. Any help wud be awesome cheers

@Flip The Pickle your right bud but this is the problem I’m having it’s the red flex looking original tools. Not the black 24 volt new platform.

Rpm and torque is what makes power.

@@Luke-qc1rm so is gearing. And other efficiences

Gearing converts rpm to torque or visa versa. Rpm and torque are directly related to power

Gearing and design are not equal or the same-components, quality and how they interact with the electrical system/motor all are parts of how a tool performs

Losses decrease power from the motor to the blade, because energy is loss due to friction. The rpm value provided includes the losses, as it’s measured at the blade. Torque value is not provided. However power is literally a function of rpm and torque.. Look at the equation. They’re directly related.

Moreover, did you do test for thermal overload? At 22 volts you're much more likely to reach a thermal overload than a comparitive motor at higher voltages. Flex's sidewinder is notorious for overheating likely due to flex pushing it's performance a little too far.

Far from innovative it’s the same as the makita and only has a 4 or 5 amp battery max that it can run on

@@almerino3497 it's the lightest rear handle saw on the market and it's not even close. Think of how many we have right now and how many attempts iterations. Pair that with satisfactory power and best in type run time and you have yourself innovation.

@@N1rOx Innovation is a stretch… anyone can lighten a tool, big whoop grow some muscle ya wimp.

@@athannaelanderson3806 Go out and design one then. Like I mentioned earlier, think of how many attempts at a rear handle saw there has been and none came CLOSE to this saw. They made at minimum, a two generation leap in weight. That's huge. That's innovative. Strange you calling me out on my muscles yet I seem to know about the entire market of rear handles? Think I'm new to saws? You don't like improvement? What a weird take.

Lets be honest it's all the same shit man. Every circ saw on the market today will do the job.

Most will do the job yes. Are they all the same? Definitely not. Even stuff like DeWalts and milwaukees cordless table saw. Super close to the same except one runs 18v one runs 60v. Even if they are identical otherwise, the motor and power source makes a big difference. If you don't care about the differences why are you even on a video like this much less commenting? Even stuff from the same mother company are different (Milwaukee, Ridgid, Ryobi) so saying all the stuff is the same shows nothing but the fact that you don't pay attention to the differences.