FLEX RECIP SAW BATTLE! FLEX vs MILWAUKEE M18 FUEL SUPER SAWZALL

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NEW CHANNEL NAME! Can the Flex 24V Brushless reciprocating saw edge out the Milwaukee M18 Fuel Super Sawzall? Or is it another disappointment? NOTES BELOW
Note 1: Wood w/ nails was performed with ORBITAL MODE on for both saws.
Steel bar stock and threaded rod were done with orbital mode off for both saws.
Forgot to include that in the video, been a long day!
Note 2: Yes, the blade looked worn on the first run of the M18. I had a "false start" where I got about 1/3 through the rod and it came loose from my clamps. So the blade did have that wear on it, plus the bar stock. It may have hurt the M18's performance a bit. I am always trying to improve and will take note for next time!
Note 3: I think the M18's bad wood run was due to being at the edge of a knot, seen in the second camera shot.
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@ToolShow 3 жыл бұрын

BWAHAHAHAH awesome intro! Welcome, Philly Fixed!

@AntonioClaudioMichael 3 жыл бұрын

Omg belts and boxes in the house

@paedahe4975 3 жыл бұрын

Have you seen the guy testing the FLEX circ saw underwater? kzfaq.info/get/bejne/a8mgq7qXnM_ZmHk.html Spoiler: it didn’t stop.

@anthonydimascio1352 3 жыл бұрын

Just a few things. 1. You need to Secure the testing material better then the plastic bench and vices. The material is bouncing all over. 2. Stamp time 4:58 you start the Milwaukee out with a used blade not a new blade like you started the flex that’s makes a huge difference

@PhillyFixed 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Anthony. You're right about the bench, I am building my workbench which will also serve better for tests like this. On the all-thread, I had a false start with the M18, the thread came loose from my clamps. So I cut about 1/2 way through the rod and then had to re-try my first run. I'll make sure to have spare blades on hand in the future. Thanks for watching!

@giovanysantiago7562 3 жыл бұрын

Yea it does look like he used a used blade, looks kinda iffy, why not show what happened in the video. You should redo this test, and try to clamp down the material better.

@glenarseneau1231 3 жыл бұрын

The Milwaukee has more power so that bench needs to be more secure

@L0n3S0m31 2 жыл бұрын

Sounds like you know exactly what happened when you were using the sawzall.

@mikekahotea8148 Жыл бұрын

@@PhillyFixedalgud buddy we know these 2 are good tools I still have a big heart for the red one 👍

@denoftools 3 жыл бұрын

Man, that intro! Want to do my editing?

@PhillyFixed 3 жыл бұрын

How much you got? ;)

@denoftools 3 жыл бұрын

@@PhillyFixed lol, Oh and nice edit on the banner!

@PhillyFixed 3 жыл бұрын

@@denoftools My wife laughed hard at that... new one on order 🤣🤣

@toolhead147 3 жыл бұрын

That reciprocating saw is really good at least for now we will see how long ir last. Great video keep up the good work! I need to learn how to edit better.

@PhillyFixed 3 жыл бұрын

Lots of good videos on how to do stuff in Davinci Resolve. I only started using it about 6 months ago. My only previous experience was Pinnacle wayyy back in the day and then I started paying for Premiere Pro CC before I found out about Resolve.

@RayW808 3 жыл бұрын

Glad you're still riding this wave brother.

@kaleb_barbour3 3 жыл бұрын

Love the new channel name, and the editing my goodness!! Can't wait to see more!

@oldporkchops 3 жыл бұрын

I respect your honesty and public proclamation that you're a Christian. God bless!

@PhillyFixed 3 жыл бұрын

God bless! 1 Cor 10:31

@winkletown8828 3 жыл бұрын

By far the most "real world" tests I've seen!!!! Too many people crying about the material moving and vibrating. But hey, when I'm under a vehicle and need to cut metal away, I can conveniently take the whole thing to a secure clamping device and have solid, vibration free, perfect world scenarios time after time 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 .... The flex dominated!!! That's impressive especially knowing that the Milwaukee is an absolute beast of a saw!!!! No fan boyism here, no nut huggery! Nobody makes the "best everything" , if they did, there'd be no competition. Please keep the imperfect wobbly tests coming!!!!! Those of us who actually use tools, greatly appreciate it!!!!!!

@gigidygigidy6078 3 жыл бұрын

Looks like you triggered the fan boys.

@xxxSpetnaz 3 жыл бұрын

Your set up was vibrating too much.. you can’t cut something if it’s moving along with the stroke

@winkletown8828 3 жыл бұрын

Real world scenarios are never perfect.

@xonehd3115 Жыл бұрын

Tf,s he doing.. it's a jump off 📴 im a buzzsaw. yuzza sawzall (

@marc6919 Жыл бұрын

Yes

@marc6919 Жыл бұрын

@@winkletown8828 he can counter act with clamps weight or something holding down the pressure ,movement, productivity.

@mikekahotea8148 Жыл бұрын

Awesome Jim and good to see you still going

@paulcollins2004 3 жыл бұрын

Great job with the video and the testing. kudos!

@ronnyb_ 3 жыл бұрын

Definitely need that patreon account. Probably spent your entire retirement account balance on that 4×4 with today's prices ahah. I see the chanel is growing, well done man!

@PhillyFixed 3 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣 Thanks!

@DoctorDinglebob 3 жыл бұрын

I need to get one those to trim small brush and prune trees. How what the vibration in your hands?

@PhillyFixed 3 жыл бұрын

Very low vibration on the Flex! The M18 wasn't bad, though, the Flex just had an edge on it ergonomics-wise.

@akaredcrossbow 3 жыл бұрын

Nice video! On the all thread with Milwaukee it looked like the blade was spent before you started the all thread test. The Flex blades looked good or new for all tests. Did you use new blades for both tools for each test?

@PhillyFixed 3 жыл бұрын

I had a false start on the M12 on the threaded rod and on the 4x4. Only got 1/2 of the way through the all thread though on the metal blade before the test you saw.

@TheSturtyT 3 жыл бұрын

Sweet video, that intro was great. The flex ate through that threaded rod, A very close match up.

@PhillyFixed 3 жыл бұрын

I think there was a knot in the wood on that bad M18 run, but the Flex isn't as far behind the M18 as I expected!

@Zozo806 3 жыл бұрын

whats the weight differences and who vibrates more? If you consider that also one is like 6 inch shorter than you have an clear winner.

@aqua_von_saqua8497 3 жыл бұрын

Milwaukee is heavier ,vibrates more and it's more expensive. Man buy a jaw horse and test the right tools also, that FLEX goes against 2821. You are comparing a ford F150 with a Hummer.

@FireBarrels 3 жыл бұрын

Running sawzalls at max speed when cutting metal sentences the blade to an early death. The super sawzall manual recommends speed 3 to 3.5 when cutting metal.

@PhillyFixed 3 жыл бұрын

Good tip!

@fender10g 3 жыл бұрын

oh is that why the super sawzall was kinda shitty later on? Just faster than flex so the blade was more fucked?

@FireBarrels 3 жыл бұрын

@@fender10g Yea, it's like how metal cutting circular saws have around half the RPM of regular circ saws and the blades are rated for about half the RPM also. When the carbide teeth on the blades are taken beyond how much friction and heat they can withstand, they wear out much faster when cutting through the same amount of material.

@jacksmith2315 3 жыл бұрын

@@FireBarrels it still doesnt negate the test. Same method used on both saws. Yes it could give more blade life, but doesnt change the results when both used the same way

@Senkino5o 3 жыл бұрын

@@jacksmith2315 Have some common sense, every video Philly Fixed's made is about Flex tools.

@wildjoker788 3 жыл бұрын

Why did you have the Milwaukee use the same used blade from the flex instead of new ones on both?

@PhillyFixed 3 жыл бұрын

@AntonioClaudioMichael 3 жыл бұрын

Love the intro Bro was sweet

@josefelix4152 3 жыл бұрын

Holy smacking flying cow duper dope intro! Iwas ggetting into the vibe!

@PhillyFixed 3 жыл бұрын

Haha, thanks Jose!!

@rickyperkins232 3 жыл бұрын

@phillyfix how was the Flex vibration in your hands compared to the Super Sawzall?

@PhillyFixed 3 жыл бұрын

The Flex had really low vibration. I'm trying to figure out how to demo/measure it on video. But the Milwaukee isn't bad, the Flex is just better vibration wise.

@evolvep2747 3 жыл бұрын

all production funds went into the intro, and just the intro 😂

@AntonioClaudioMichael 3 жыл бұрын

Looks like blade is so damaged the Milwaukee is cutting slower @5:22

@fender10g 3 жыл бұрын

any reason you didn't use the regular fuel one? Or are you trying to do best of Flex vs. best of Milwaukee?

@PhillyFixed 3 жыл бұрын

Super Sawzall has orbital/non-orbital modes like the flex.

@ChazSeamus28 3 жыл бұрын

Impressive video, your somewhat gaining my trust now 😏

@davidtoews5584 3 жыл бұрын

Great videos! Thanks for the solid content. I'm thinking the inconsistencies in the grain direction/density of the wood is to play. ADVICE: pick straight (ish) grain wood with no significant grain direction anomalies or knots. Those areas are generally much harder and can steer the blade in a warped and difficult kerf.

@PhillyFixed 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching, David! Definitely learning as I go.

@therichway8535 3 жыл бұрын

How did you get the Flex tools early if you had to buy them with your own money?

@PhillyFixed 3 жыл бұрын

Lowe's made an error... it was on the Belts and Boxes clip I showed in the intro?

@Itsallpossible285 3 жыл бұрын

Was that the multi pack sawall or did you buy the single tool

@PhillyFixed 3 жыл бұрын

Neither - borrowed it from a contractor friend. Thanks for watching!

@dineshdeena8389 3 жыл бұрын

Loving this channel this far.. Go Philly Fixed...

@waltkosch 3 жыл бұрын

How is the hand feel? The weight? The trigger is it variable? What's the trigger pull strength? There is a lot your missing out here.

@PhillyFixed 3 жыл бұрын

Yup. Only so much I can film in a day, more to come.

@MasteringMayhem 3 жыл бұрын

Keep working hard and making those videos. Working on my video tomorrow between these two and others.

@PhillyFixed 3 жыл бұрын

Saw you got the grinder, paddle switch right? I hate slide switches. My Ryobi has one, ugh.

@MasteringMayhem 3 жыл бұрын

@@PhillyFixed Yes, paddle switch. I’ll be comparing that to the Makita X-Lock and the RIDGID Octane grinders. Those are the only two I have. Looking forward to the content making work tomorrow .

@misterfee6467 3 жыл бұрын

Looked like the flex was barley vibrating. Could you tell a difference?

@PhillyFixed 3 жыл бұрын

The flex was definitely a smooth tool to use, very little vibration. I need to do a follow up with more discussion/analysis. Was rushing to post before their launch event.

@pearldrumsets 3 жыл бұрын

I just subscribed but I want to know if u have the impact drill?

@PhillyFixed 3 жыл бұрын

I do! I have the lower-tier impact on hand and the top tier model on order. I'll do comparisons of both to competitors and each other soon.

@joebaer5343 3 жыл бұрын

Great channel!

@thomasmorse6692 3 жыл бұрын

Nice! Did you try the orbital? Had to watch the intro again. That was badass.

@PhillyFixed 3 жыл бұрын

I added a note to the description because I forgot to say it in the video - orbital was used for both saws on wood, non-orbital on both for metal. And thanks!!

@nevadasmith9095 3 жыл бұрын

I have been using Milwaukee brand for 35 yrs and they always work. I have used other brands but always come back to Milwaukee. They just hold up better in the long run. Now not every Milwaukee tool is good, just saying overall consistency of quality is my factor. What will the Flex tool be like in 5 years?

@backwoodsplayer86 3 жыл бұрын

My question is why using the same blade for the 3rd test I bet it will b different it the milwaukee have a brand new blade

@davidwhitten2005 3 жыл бұрын

Just found your channel. Great stuff so far! Keep it up! I don't know if anyone mentioned this but the shoe pivot on the Flex is in a bad spot. It should be just below the contact point of the blade, like the Milwaukee. That is why the work surface was jumping around, mainly when cutting the metal pieces is when it is noticeable. Hopefully they will fix that because it is an easy way for someone to get bit by the saw.

@PhillyFixed 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent observation. Thanks David!

@Pepuskhan Жыл бұрын

What is for you the most powerful sawsall for demolition??

@PhillyFixed Жыл бұрын

I am working on a video comparing saws from all major brands. But as of now I'd say the Flex or the Metabo HPT 36V. That being said, the new Makita 40V Gen 2 (with orbital mode) looks very powerful too!

@Pepuskhan Жыл бұрын

@@PhillyFixed 🤔 💭 mmm

@tommynguyen8942 3 жыл бұрын

You didn’t have a new blade for the Milwaukee on the 5/8 rod?

@PhillyFixed 3 жыл бұрын

I had a failed cut where the rod came loose, got about 1/2 way through and had to re-start.

@tommynguyen8942 3 жыл бұрын

I guess that explains it. 👍🏼

@DaleLucid 3 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure if I missed it but was that the M18 FUEL? I think that would be more a fair comparison 🤔

@PhillyFixed 3 жыл бұрын

Yup, it was the M18 Fuel Super Sawzall model 2722!

@joesteele581 3 жыл бұрын

Much better video much better testing man. Kudos

@AntonioClaudioMichael 3 жыл бұрын

You defenitly are well known by some large channels to be new to youtube wonder if ya had a different youtube before this one good testing bro

@PhillyFixed 3 жыл бұрын

I had one for my home videos to share with friends back in the late 2000's, but that's it! Video editing is a hobby.

@AntonioClaudioMichael 3 жыл бұрын

@@PhillyFixed aww I got you well your doing an amazing job catching the attention of these big channels and your are doing awesome on the test videos bro keep it up

@dvolada81 3 жыл бұрын

wish you the best bro.. nice job.. you should find a bigger space and do a nice background doh!

@PhillyFixed 3 жыл бұрын

Someday! Thanks for watching!

@adamnieto2859 3 жыл бұрын

Was that a brand new m18 saw ?

@PhillyFixed 3 жыл бұрын

Nope, borrowed from a contractor friend, same guy who lent me the CP3.0 battery.

@mikeerin5031 3 жыл бұрын

In reality, with all the different channels with inconsistent results it does not sway me from my Milwaukee, DeWalt or Makita line. Nothing seems ground breaking from Flex. Maybe for new tool buyers, but I would still go tried and true at their prices..

@PhillyFixed 3 жыл бұрын

No huge differentiator here from Flex. But a respectable showing.

@FyrFytr998 3 жыл бұрын

Maybe not for people already invested in those other lines, but for someone new to the game (like myself) looking to upgrade to a better product. The Limited Lifetime Warranty on tool and battery for the product launch seems pretty sweet.

@mikeerin5031 3 жыл бұрын

@@PhillyFixed I suppose, but is it better than the Metabo line that it is effectively replacing at Lowe’s? Honestly it does not seem like it. I get the feeling they over promised and have under delivered on their marketing so far.

@PhillyFixed 3 жыл бұрын

@@mikeerin5031 Yeah I mean I wouldn't jump battery platforms for this recip, not at all.

@fender10g 3 жыл бұрын

why did you change your name? Love the video!

@PhillyFixed 3 жыл бұрын

The channel is doing better than expected. Avoiding the attention of Fox/FX...

@ghostrider-gm2wg 3 жыл бұрын

Seems like the Milwaukee was being pushed to the side while cutting the piece of wood hence the vibration and stress on the blade making it harder to cut. Look at the front shot around 3:36.

@TheSirPotato 3 жыл бұрын

Keep up the early tests

@PhillyFixed 3 жыл бұрын

Will do!

@CarltonWhitfield 3 жыл бұрын

Great Stuff

@joshuakemblebluegrass838 3 жыл бұрын

That 3rd cut with the Milwaukee looked like it was just on the edge of a knot, I could be wrong though, that’s really odd though

@PhillyFixed 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I think it was... I've got a better setup and new tests coming soon!

@Studio23Media 3 жыл бұрын

The new channel name is better, rolls off the tongue better. I'm still curious how they managed this launch screwup and sent you the tools early. I could understand if they accidentally went live and even let you order, but the fact that they still shipped?? My goodness. They goofed.

@Yankee_Doodle_Stacker 2 жыл бұрын

gee you covered everything except the batteries. Wonder why? curiously we couldnt see the back end of the saws during the tests.

@PhillyFixed 2 жыл бұрын

🤪

@tannerrood2980 3 жыл бұрын

Great video and editing! I suggest that at the end when you talk in front of the camera to move to an interior wall and but a couple cheaper tripod lights... The sunlight from your garage doors washes you out a bit and makes the quality a bit worse. Not criticizing just giving a tip because I like your channel and hope you grow! Already subbed man!

@PhillyFixed 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Tanner! Lighting upgrades are next. I have a cheap LED shop light above my head and that's it...

@chrissilliman 3 жыл бұрын

So obviously the flex reciprocating saw is brand new in this video is the Milwaukee saw brand new? It looked used?

@PhillyFixed 3 жыл бұрын

It's used. Sorry!

@opbfitness 3 жыл бұрын

awesome intro 👍👍

@loucifer323 3 жыл бұрын

Try the craftsman brushless recip saw against these two at 5lbs in weight it will cut faster than both

@L0n3S0m31 2 жыл бұрын

It was pretty fair when you were cutting the metal, but when you were cutting the wood, you held the wood for the flex twice, you never held the would for the sawzall, and on the second cut you could see the entire table and the machine on the table moving. Why did you not hold the would?

@derekbross6958 3 жыл бұрын

Great video. Again your editing is top notch. I would have liked to see a little more digging into what happened on the 3rd wood run with the M18. It look like more of a blade issue rather than the sawzall itself as it picked right up again when you switched blades in the next test. I know you are trying to keep it real world as possible but if it wasn’t for that one 18 or 19 second run the M18 would have won overall. Just my thoughts thought. Again, great video, keep it up.

@PhillyFixed 3 жыл бұрын

Agree, I was trying to publish this before the Flex event today, I have some footage comparing the measured OPM to the spec sheet and a couple other things that didn't make it.

@johnnyfreeman1018 3 жыл бұрын

Flex is nice....but I'm still an M18 guy...good testing....👍

@herbertherbomoore415 3 жыл бұрын

Why do you get to show demonstrations; before the 12th of April?

@PhillyFixed 3 жыл бұрын

I bought these tools and have no agreement in place with Chervon . Lowe's accidentally sold them to me! 😅

@FunAtDisney 3 жыл бұрын

Nice comparison! I think the other KZfaqrs “may” have been a bit miffed because they got review tools sent to them and were under NDAs. You bought yours so no holding back! As I said before, it’s great to have competition, but for Flex they will have to offer something more to entice current and new consumers over to their tools. That has to be either better price and/or better value AND an out-of-the-gate range of tools. I’m in the homeowner/DYI projects category and looking to see what line will be best for me in price, range and power when I may need it. I love the Skil PwrCore 12 and 20 tools for their decent performance and excellent value (also Chervon) but the range is small so Ryobi is a better fit, or buy DeWalt or Milwaukee when the deals are there. It will be interesting to see what Flex offers tomorrow! Thanks again!

@PhillyFixed 3 жыл бұрын

I love Ryobi, but buy more expensive stuff for certain tools that need a lot of power like 1/2" impact wrench or circ saws. I have a mix of Ryobi, makita, and a few M12 tools. That is, I did before this channel 🤣 I actually borrowed the M18 super sawzall, it's not even mine!

@FunAtDisney 3 жыл бұрын

@@PhillyFixed Yep, it always comes down to cost! I do have a corded Bosch miter saw, and an older Ryobi table and circ saw (very heavy) going back to when we redid our kitchen, flooring and other projects. When it comes to a hammer drill & impact drive comb kit yes, I’d like the power in those while still being compact. (The main reason for the hammer drill is in the garden using a planting auger to dig holes in our clay-like soil.) But for other tools, multi-tool, jigsaw and a saw circ saw a 12-v system would be fine for finish work and so on. (I would like to also get a 1/4” compact router, pin nailer and a few other things eventually.) And there in lies the rub and finding one brand that offers all of that at a decent price. Thanks again!

@basook6116 3 жыл бұрын

by looking at the data, Flex don't make too much of difference. Flex is 24V, so it might have more power? but, don't know how much running time it has

@deanfirnatine7814 3 жыл бұрын

Man that sucks you had to change your name, that name was great. I enjoy seeing fan boys come up with excuses, they loved it though when Flex did not do so hot, they remind me of the Glock fan boys only toned done a bit.

@PhillyFixed 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I mean I didn't *have* to but I just had a feeling I'd regret it later. Watching Always Sunny right now... season 2! I love the old ones.

@winkletown8828 3 жыл бұрын

You nailed 100% ... Give them time and they'll become the glock crowd 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@AllTattedUp13 3 жыл бұрын

@@winkletown8828 doubtful. Itll take flex light years to climb that mountain and beat milwaukee, dewalt or makita. Esp with all the niche trade tools milwaukee keeps coming our with. Flex so far is pretty much a new construction only tool. Don't do shit for me, I need them trade speciality tools.

@evilcolin 3 жыл бұрын

Nice vids bro. If you want to take a suggestion, please try to cover the accuracy and ergo elements in your quick hitter format. Helps pretend wood workers like me

@PhillyFixed 3 жыл бұрын

Will do! This video was a bit of a rush to shoot and edit ahead of the Flex launch. I will cover usability more on future tool reviews!

@AntonioClaudioMichael 3 жыл бұрын

Why you change the name ?

@PhillyFixed 3 жыл бұрын

Didn't want to get sued over Always Sunny.

@AntonioClaudioMichael 3 жыл бұрын

@@PhillyFixed I got ya bro

@jasonhull2163 3 жыл бұрын

One thing I’ve seen a lot of people not take into consideration is when a Flex tool is going up against another brand the competitive tool is usually highly used. I have several Makita and Milwaukee tools that still work great but don’t have the power they did when new. Especially impact drivers or wrenches. A fair stand off would be new tools going against Flex tools since they are brand new in USA.

@briancox5825 3 жыл бұрын

It looked like when you did the first cut of the all thread with the M18 you did not start off that test with a new blade. It looked shot already

@PhillyFixed 3 жыл бұрын

It had already cut the bar stock

@mfetzer1 3 жыл бұрын

My Milwaukee has made me a lot of money never fails me. And I'm always looking forward to what they have coming out next! Great video my man!

@greatbay1961 3 жыл бұрын

I have a workbench plan for all you guys just fyi lol all your kinetic energy is moving the whole table is why the wood wont cut

@PhillyFixed 3 жыл бұрын

Yeahhh it's not the workbench design holding me up, it's the disaster in my garage that's off camera haha. Gotta make room. But, workbench prep is underway.

@y_zass 3 жыл бұрын

The last 2 M18 wood cuts, look at your board. It started to come lose and moving side to side, severely hampering the back and forth cutting of the saw.

@PhillyFixed 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and the feedback. I'm working on improving my tests for the future!

@ns4854 3 жыл бұрын

On the slow and middle Milwaukee run. You can see you were cutting a knot

@Vreguleift 3 жыл бұрын

Oh man, I knew this comment section was going to turn into one big slap-fight. Ladies, you all have nice saws. Stop arguing and go use them.

@whatsay8406 3 жыл бұрын

Great work. With regard to the Milwaukee stalling out the one time. It appears the cut angle was not at a 90 for the blade, which is not a big issue in of it self. However, the it appear you were also pulling the tool to the side as well. These two factors will bind the blade. Take a look at it. You’ll see how the saw body is off center from the cut angle. Keep up the work.

@PhillyFixed 3 жыл бұрын

Agree. I am always trying to improve and will take note for next time!

@whatsay8406 3 жыл бұрын

@@PhillyFixed No important needed there. Like you pointed out, this stuff happens in the real word. It’s good see.

@J-WHO312 3 жыл бұрын

Everyone has an opinion, so, if you had a more stable surface maybe better results. With that being said Flex is impressive, but not convinced yet. Maybe Kobalt 24v bs Flex 24v ? Nice vid.

@PhillyFixed 3 жыл бұрын

Check out Mastering Mayhem. He learned from my mistake and bolted his materials down to his workbench. I came out of his video wanting to get a Metabo HPT of all things! He tested 6 saws.

@Joethetoolguy 3 жыл бұрын

Dood yes! Nice counter weight!

@PhillyFixed 3 жыл бұрын

Haha first I used the Predator generator, then my antique grinder! Grinder was heavier....

@jflovlogs2092 3 жыл бұрын

Lets just put it like this, New tool company vs Stablished great tool company, i dont know if the flex is gona keep up with the years of use ive put my milwaukee tools through and still work like new with a lot of power, time will tell, will not be selling all my great milwaukee tools any time soon, maybe at all

@MrJruta 3 жыл бұрын

Only problem I can see with this test (on everyones channel) is it’s never taken into account that the weight of each tool is likely different at the blades contact point regardless of having an equal amount of external weight tied to the shoe. I’ve never read or heard anyone mention that.

@PhillyFixed 3 жыл бұрын

Great point! I took note for future tests. Thanks!

@michaelrasmussen5430 3 жыл бұрын

You used a new blade for the flex wen you cut the rund par .and a olde blade for the milwaukee

@padraics 3 жыл бұрын

You give milwaukee an advantage in every test by cutting closer to the clamping point

@502deth 3 жыл бұрын

would have been interesting to see the tests repeated once for standard mode and once for oscillating mode. more so on my behalf to see how much it actually helps than to compare the saws.

@PhillyFixed 3 жыл бұрын

Future video idea, thanks!

@vit1844 3 жыл бұрын

on milwaukee the blade is burnt after the previous test and it cuts longer

@phattacorider 3 жыл бұрын

Here's my thing with Sawzalls. The blade is what really makes the cutting difference between the tools. Otherwise, noting their mechanical specs could be the buying drive for people, such as strokes per minute, stroke length, and battery run time per given capacity battery. Personally, flex hasn't offered anything so substantial in performance that I'll ditch my milwaukee and ryobi tools. Ryobi has great, cost effective tools that do the job. Milwaukee has probably the best line of tools available in both m12 and m18 variants. Flex may expand over time, but seeing what they're made of so far, I'm not impressed.

@PhillyFixed 3 жыл бұрын

Great assessment. The Flex is a good sawzall, for sure. Low vibration. But, I don't think it's anything so special that someone should jump battery platforms.

@jackbraddell1150 3 жыл бұрын

Battery prices in and tool longevity matter most in cordless tools.

@santiagogod7286 3 жыл бұрын

i think you should have put the biggest battery on both and see how they perform

@PhillyFixed 3 жыл бұрын

Would love to get the biggest battery before it goes on sale!

@jaedensheena4926 3 жыл бұрын

Its better to compare both 24v tools Ithink ders a diferens between 18v n 24v

@PhillyFixed 3 жыл бұрын

Kobalt is the only other 24V line I'm aware of...

@jamesbates2016 3 жыл бұрын

Put the 12ah on both and test again

@kevincris2589 3 жыл бұрын

Look at the difference on how the 4x4 and table move/shake with the m18. Most of its power its loss by the whole thing moving.

@PhillyFixed 3 жыл бұрын

I am working on a more stable setup for the future! Thanks for watching.

@cprunier1 3 жыл бұрын

Why the name change?

@PhillyFixed 3 жыл бұрын

Out of caution and advice from those with more experience with copyright challenges ;)

@younghov1785 3 жыл бұрын

I like the old name it was so true everything in Philly is busted but you got to do what you got to do good luck with the new name.

@PhillyFixed 3 жыл бұрын

Didn't want to get in trouble over copyright with Always Sunny. Thanks for watching!!

@josem2468 3 жыл бұрын

@@PhillyFixed Philly isn't always sunny it's BUSTED

@joepro3562 2 жыл бұрын

Looking at the grain of the 4x4 where the Milwaukee bogged down you can see it went from parallel to the blade to perpendicular. When there's a change of direction in the grain there's usually more density associated at that point. It looks like both tools did a good job, but I think more than anything we all want to know longevity. Since we can't do that with a new brand of tool, dismantling, inspecting and comparing build quality to top rated brands might be more appropriate. I guess what I'm trying to say is, is this a premium build saw or is it just a black saw instead of a red one made by Skil.

@PhillyFixed 2 жыл бұрын

Now that it's been out for a year and seen some use, I'd definitely categorize it as a premium build saw.

@BlessedFallout 3 жыл бұрын

Again , messed up test. You are using 2 clamps to hold the wood on m18 and one clamp on flex. The wood is shaking and moving, vibration is huge and I don’t know if you know that, but that makes huge difference in cutting time.

@PhillyFixed 3 жыл бұрын

Yup I have room for improvement. Next time!

@jncn1490 3 жыл бұрын

High Output battery pal. Orbital mode pal... do the test how the tool is designed to reach peak performance....

@PhillyFixed 3 жыл бұрын

CP 3.0 high output battery on M18. Both tools on orbital mode for wood, non orbital for metal per the description. Didn't have a larger battery for the Flex since this was pre-launch.

@dannyramos3323 3 жыл бұрын

Your such a thug lol good stuff

@PhillyFixed 3 жыл бұрын

haha, first time I've been called that...

@AngelMartinez-me1bf 3 жыл бұрын

Great editing ! Why’d you make a new Channel? They attacked you for using your freedom ?

@PhillyFixed 3 жыл бұрын

Nope! No attacks. Just got some advice from a fellow KZfaqr with way more experience, and I took it. Not trying to get sued!

@JBPlaysGames1 2 жыл бұрын

I'm no expert, but It seems like you were having the same issue as Project Farm did on his batteries episode. In that video he was having issues with bigger batteries actually making the saw move too fast, and not really quite biting correctly because of it.

@PhillyFixed 2 жыл бұрын

Actually, if anything I used undersized batteries on this because Lowe's had sold me the Flex kit before they were supposed to (tools not released yet) and I only had the 2.5aH battery. The M18 was the 3.0 High output, but still only a 3.0.

@JBPlaysGames1 2 жыл бұрын

@@PhillyFixed True, but the high output ones are known to output more juice just like rhe bigger ones. I'm not expert though lol just a thought.

@shanemannion4077 3 жыл бұрын

You used a used plade for Milwaukee

@PhillyFixed 3 жыл бұрын

see notes in description. Thanks for watching!

@shanemannion4077 3 жыл бұрын

@@PhillyFixed but I think that you should have put in a new blade

@PhillyFixed 3 жыл бұрын

@@shanemannion4077 Next time!

@theone6805 3 жыл бұрын

The reason why the milwaukee is cutting slower is because the blade is moving too fast, you'll have to put more pressure on it. When cutting its importing to use correct blade, speed, and pressure. A slower moving blade on metal can cut through it faster at the right amount of pressure

@PhillyFixed 3 жыл бұрын

Both saws are rated for 3,000 SPM, however.

@johnkedah8432 2 жыл бұрын

I pretty sure flex 24v recip saw is slower than hikoki / metabo hpt 36v cr36da recip saw..that a real beast

@PhillyFixed 2 жыл бұрын

The MHPT might be the best out there!

@TheMrReee 2 жыл бұрын

Interesting, but if like most, you've already heavily invested in a particular platform, a couple of seconds either way isn't going to persuade most tradesmen to dump £1000's of tools just to jump ship.