Important: The video doesn't have audio in some parts due to copyrights, not sure who is doing this but will update later. Original comment: The cope is real (Mrs. Graves is still hot and i envy her husband). Edit: I forgot to include the scene at midnight which Mrs. Graves could have said something about Ashley to Andrew, but interrupted and being held at gun point by Ashley, Mrs. Graves must have had something such important that she needed to talk to Andrew alone that night. Also Mrs. and Mr Graves could have had a date night if it hadn't been for Ashley and Andrew invading their home (she bought meat and wine), can't really say this detail proves Mrs. Graves actually fancies her husband more than just a play thing or not, since she forced him into other kinky stuffs and pretty much any other thing, but maybe it's something in between.

Andrew had to cook and take care of his younger sister, he wasn't just Ashley's brother he was father, mother and first romantic interest. It's no wonder that Ashlei hated her brother's girlfriends so much, it practically became a question of survival, without Andrew she had no one to talk to or take care of her, I imagine just Andrew at Julia's house, while Ashley had to be alone with a mother who did nothing but antagonize her.

17:23 I actually find it super fucked up that Ms. Greaves assumes the only reason Andrew could possibly care about his own sibling is if he was banging her. Especially when considering how she neglected Ashley as a kid, and all the... escapades she gets up to with her husband, it really looks like she can only see love as something that goes alongside sex.

I’m honestly curious about the father. His extreme constant-tiredness and lack of emotion doesn’t just seem to be a gag, but an indication of extreme depression even. He doesn’t even seem to be living, but in a constant state of mental and emotional fatigue and fog, only breaking out at extremely rare moments. It’s honestly… sad? Like, I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s revealed that, in a similar sense to Andrew, the father is actually a lot more innocent than what things initially seem. Edit: Also, I need to point out, but when Andrew talks to him in the flashback memory on the balcony, the father immediately reassures Andrew that he’s not going to jump off when he says goodbye. The fact that the father’s FIRST THOUGHT is to reassure his son that he won’t kill himself seems to me that he WAS actually contemplating suicide at that moment. Mind you, this is also after the father supposedly got fired from his job, so there’s a chance that losing his job might’ve been the straw that broke the camel’s back for him. So, yeah. On top of being possibly clinically depressed, he might also have been genuinely suicidal on some level.

Mrs Graves just seem a lot like a slightly more stable Ashley while Mr Graves seem like a more pushover Andrew

Mrs. Graves seems to have the same obsessive and domineering relationship with her husband as Ashley has with Andrew. I'd bet 15 y/o Mrs. Graves was such an obsessive yandere psycho with her high school sweetheart that she intentionally got pregnant to entrap him into marriage.

Fun fact you can only see the dads face a total of 2 times actually drawn out in a cutscene And both times he has the EXACT same expression (one time on the stairs, and one time when the mother talks about the thing)

Ashley seem to have been completely ignored by the family. To the point where she had to eat dinner in her room while andrew ate with the family (as seen in Ashley's dream). We can also see this continuing kind of during their surprise visit, because the only one who doesn't get a proper chair at the dinner table is Ashley, who has to sit furthest away from the parents on a stepladder instead.

Last name, "graves." Andrew and Ashley planned on getting forgotten if the harvesting went as intended, the parents not getting graves either as they were eaten and disposed of. Ironic comedy. Love it.

ain't no way her mother just said "Cry about it" to her face hahahaha

“Andrew weren’t you supposed to be masturbating” that caught me off guard

Another thing I noted was that Ashley seems to be so neglected by the parents she decides to rebel just out of spite. For example, watching Hypergore Splatterbrain 2 just because she's not allowed to. That might've been one of the main cause of her being so desensitized to these things later on.

Damn, they inherited their toxic relationship AND their horniness

I can't possibly imagine falling for Mrs. Graves, an apology at that point doesn't solve everything or make anything better. I have zero pity for parents like her.

For people to assume that Mr. Graves is "lucky" I'm pretty sure him getting jiggy with his wife is probably the only thing the dude has going on for him to stay alive seeing how his situation is. The dude obviously contemplated suicide to the point that he unnecessarily reassured Andrew he wasn't going to jump off a balcony after losing his job when that wasn't even Andrew's concern to begin with. And being the guy who can't even get a CG during his own dialogue, the dude shows a high level of dissociation when communicating with his family which in turn could insinuate that he is self conscious and nervous. Seeing how his wife is, it's best to hypothesize that Mrs. Graves is the shot caller a.k.a. The "Man" of the family. She controls him as well as everything else that goes on around them. She made the choices and all he is her is a walking dildo and a person to scrounge money off of on the side. TLDR: Dude just gets laid but is really unlucky at everything else in his life.

I remember that there is a Japanese artist called VtbkKf who drew Andrew and Ashley as two cats. I passed it to my friend and he said "The Mother would be the owner who abandoned them on the street"

17:23 My mom was the saaaaaaaaaaaaaaame. She constantly tried to hammer that down to me. Horrible woman. I noticed this in the game immediately because I'm so familiar with it IRL. Shame that so many people call this game bad or badly written when it's just such a good and wonderfully made depiction of unhealthy, codependent families.

This is some dang good analysis. I thought they were just irresponsible but turns out they're worse? Nice job.

"Mother would like to gouge your eyes out and feed them to you" that line hits hard

17:50 I just have to commend ashley for probably only overhearing part of what they were talking about, and immediately take the chance to make their mom even more uncomfortable. You can see it on her smug grin as she rushes down the stairs

I don't know when that birthday scene happened in the timeline. It's just pure wholesomeness without any hint of toxocity (save that wish, of course), Ashley is being extremely understanding of Andrew here and not trying to overstep at all. "Oh you're on a budget, fine I'll take the horrible muffins." "I did not ask for anything better because I thought you specifically wanted the lemon muffins." She also did not express any jealousy over Andrew getting proper birthday parties and is coping by claiming she didn't care for brithday parties anyway. Wait a minute. We know demons are real in the game. It's possible Ashley became like that because of her birthday wish. She basically cursed themsleves without knowing it. Maybe the key to their redemption is another lemon muffin cake and a wish. This scene seems to imply that Ashley was not always the manipulative sociapathic murder gremlin like the mother claims. Did those horrifically violent movies have anything to do with her change? The comment on her friends seem to suggest she was osterized in school as well, that definately had a negative impact. Was she bullied in school? I agree with the assesment that Ashley became what she is because of a total lack of actual parenting. That part of Ashley still lingers as demonsted by the apple soda. The "G-goodbye, Ashley... I'm sorry..." is EXTREMELY damning. When I saw that I knew the parents would not get a good ending. Them leaving the apartment is fine by my books. I know if I was in the same situation my parents would try to leave as well... just so they can provide material support from the outside and try to extricate me using their connections. I don't know how to interpret the fact that the mother stammered and hesistated when saying that. Maybe she still had a little bit of a conscience left? She is still an unhatched tar soul, after all. 17:09 I think the things that tipped Andrew off to his mother being full of crap is the fact that they called her after she got the death certificate papers. Ain't no way she actually thinks they died to parasites. She does in fact think they died and were cremated, though, just alongside everyone else in the apartment and three months late.

The fact that Mrs.Graves gave birth when she was 15 and 17 years old💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀

The face the mother makes during the left door ending when she finds out is priceless ✨✨

The Graves's family is truly one of a dysfunctional family of all time.

Kid Andrew was such an angel, he didn't deserve all this.

It’s interesting at 9:54 Ashley and her dad have the same sad face. While Andrew and the mom are smiling. Edit:to the people who pointed out that they were not smiling that’s my bad o saw that picture wrong. Ty for correcting me.

I swear there's just something so hilarious about the way she goes "oh you fuck her" like in her mind that's the only plausible reason for Andrew to be under Ashley's biding PD: on that last clip I don't really understand how people buy her excuses, for what concerns me that apologizing is just more manipulation to possibly appeal to Andrew's consciousness and get out of there alive

Excellent video as always, I would just like to add one thing. I think when the pink plushie keeps falling off the chair in the burial dream, it’s metaphorical not literal. It just means that Ashley felt like she didn’t belong with them, not that she literally wasn’t allowed to or didn’t sit with them often

I love how both Mr Graves and Andrew are both doormats, like father like son I guess.

I really think Mrs. Graves already suspected something between Andrew and Ashley, considering her tone when she was telling them to sleep in different beds and then told them not to sneak out during the night. She definitely thought something was going to happen.

Initially feeling weird about how the ending where i trusted my gut and didnt trust ms graves on my first playthrough actually makes alot more sense now. you can just tell its all lies

What nobody seems to be talking about when it comes to this story , is how smart Andrew actually is . He manages to make a plans very quickly and execute them quite well , he manages to escape a quarantined building which is guarded by policemen(I assume) armed with mellee weapons and firearms . He manages , while caring for an overgrown child , to evade the autorithes , avoids being killed by an assasin , and manages to murder their parents( technically Ashley did it ), leaving little to no trace of the crime that just took place . Also , he manages to get all the money from the credit card that their mom owned . Now that's impressive

Oof the mom’s reply to Ashley both back in the apartment and the new house “cry about it” like wtf holy shit

Honestly, having seen everything so far, both sides suck hard but when considering their circumstances, it's understandable WHY they are all such awful people. The Graves parents had to deal with young/teenage pregnancies and had to cope with the fact that they f-d up hard because they were young (It's not mentioned I think but I like to believe that they had to deal with all this stress and anxiety ALONE without any real external help considering how awful their world is in general). Of course, the argument could be made that the Mom and Dad screwed up twice but as is stated, they probably grew attached to Andrew with how easy it was to raise him thus far and were probably sure of themselves that if another one came, they could deal with it. Of course, now that Ashley came into the frame, it became much more dire for them. From what I could gather from the game and videos about it, Ashley may in part have always been a little off the rocker, but with how the Mom and Dad probably treated her (not giving her enough attention and reprimand when she was a kid, giving the job of raising a child over to A CHILD!), it's of course no wonder why Andrew and ESPECIALLY Ashley have turned out the way they did. Child neglect can turn anyone into a rotten being if left unattended (as is implied with Andrew after he had to take care of Ashley, meaning he had to grow up fast and never could be experience a real childhood because of it) or missattended in Ashleys case. And yes, the fact that they sold their kids out in the quarantine to get themselves a "clean slate" life with the insurance money is pretty horrible in itself Of course, this does not excuse what the siblings have done either, with them, especially Ashley, being rather unopposed to the idea of criminal behavior (Stealing, murder [even if in self defense], cannibalism, etc.), though to their merit, most of their crimes were either a result of just getting into danger without their own accord (the whole occult and cannibalism thing started out with a cultist f-ing up a ritual, the hitman that was inexplicably chasing them leading to his murder) or the world around them just being an awful place (The Quarantine being a HUGE example of this!). Yes, the murder of Andrews classmate was inexcusable and Ashley is a Monster for this... if you discount the fact that wasn't treated like the runt of the litter by her parents and having to be raised by her then CHILD BROTHER, who he himself didn't even understand whole concept of murder and couldn't possibly have taught Ashley the consequences of her actions, nor could he have predicted that she could even be capable of such an act (if indirectly). Ashley is horrible, yes, but she is the consequence of her parents' neglectful behavior and Andrews' (understandably) poor upbringing of her. And on Andrews part: He definitely suffered the most here since he was between neglectful and sex-crazed teenage parents who made some very bad life decisions and still TRIED to do the best before giving up, and a on the border of sociopathic behavior leaning sister who wasn't loved by those same parents and he tried to love and raise to the best of his abilities but ultimately couldn't do much alone to stop Ashleys' obsessive and criminal nature (even unintentionally exacerbated her behavior to some extent with her attachment issues, making her depend on Andrew for everything) and ended up suffering even harder because of her (Hell, he couldn't even hold any relationships without Ashley being involved somehow). All in all, both sides are at fault here in different circumstances (The parents not raising their kids properly, the siblings for their shared crimes and Ashley for her manipulative obsessive behavior), but they also have their reasons and understandable circumstances as to WHY they are so awful, though I'd say Andrew deserves it all the least considering he is actually the most normal and relatively "stable" person here (If very jaded and cynical). And on a final note: their world is complete ass and just dials their issues up to 11. I tell you, without the quarantine and the whole world being a capitalist dystopia, the siblings probably would have still turned out weird but definitely not into cannibalistic, sociopathic (and in some very icky cases incestiuos) bastards, and the parents could have found a way to turn their life around without having to sell their kids, even if it would involve adoption.

Its kinda f'd how the mother just couldn't see Andrew just loving his sister, without receiving some "compensation" in exchange.

I'm hoping for a route that has the mother talk with Andrew alone, because what she told him in the basement would've been influenced by the fact that she and her husband is tied up and are being held at knife and gunpoint.

Mrs. Graves apology made no sense to begin with. She admitted to it being an insurance *SCAM* which means she knew they were alive, and then proceeds to claim she had no idea about them being alive?

9:59 It's worse, it's not that they didn't intend for neither of their children to live there, they never intended for _Ashley_ to live there. Assuming the parents were the one to seat them, they delibrately gave Andrew (their "easy" child) a proper chair and got the step stool for Ashley (their "problem" child). Not only was she not given a proper seat while Andrew was, she was also seated away as far as possible from their parents, they didn't want to deal with her so much. Oof, small wonder they (esp LeyLey) turned out like... _that_.

"being mentally deranged runs in the family" pretty sure ManlyBadassHero said that XD

9:40 My interpretation of that part of the game is Ashley was unable to fit in with the rest of her family while Andrew still could, he could but he choose to still be with her over his family. The sad thing is, which may just be the result of scripting admittedly, is even after removing the parents from their seats her plushie still cant sit at the table with Andrews which might hint she might be subconsciously aware she'll never be able to pretend to be normal. But whats that matter so long as she can get him to sit on her level with her?

i like how Andrew just agrees with his mom calling herself "the worst mother ever" (i mean, she is but it was still kinda funny to me)

Man it is a actually really sad... Andrew and Ashley, were both abandoned, as Andrew was forced to take care of Ashley, but Andrew was always the "wanted child" while Ashley was just "in the way" to her parents. But Andrew never actually tried to abandon Ashley, thus they grew codependant to eachother (which is why they both are into eachother). I mean obviously they have grown to always be together, and thus they could never separate. Ashley turned out to be a fck up and she dragged Andrew down the rabbit whole with her (as Andrew wouldn't neglect anything she does). While Andrew doesn't have the spine to oppose his sister (and actually doesn't want to leave her), they're both in a downwards spiral. (So long as Ashley doesn't want to stop).

One of my biggest questions for this game right now is what made Mrs. Graves detest Ashley so openly as she did. It can be theorized that this started very early in Ashley's childhood at 5 years old. What could a 5 year old do to make a mother no longer want to do anything with them despite having an older child who she actually does like, to some degree. There's no way Ashley was 5 when they murdered Nina. Andrew is at least 10 in that scene, he's far too knowledgeable about prison and consequences. That's why Mrs. Graves is so interesting to me, because she doesn't come off as entirely "Aloof." Their father is completely aloof, yet Mrs. Graves clearly knows more than she lets on. She picks up on subtleties and has a degree of cunning within her. She's not stupid. So why did she treat Ashley so harshly in her childhood, but not Andrew?

Everyone pretty much nailed down the reasons as to why ashley and andrew are the way they are. Honestly what was Mrs. Graves expecting, I mean how could her kids not turn out fucked up when you damn near completely ignore your daughter and expect your eldest to practically raise'em, doesnt help that they are both so much like their parents, even Andrew noticed how much hes like his dad; a doormat, and ashley she's noticed how similar she is to her mom; manipulative and controlling

At first i thought ashley was just a typical psycho e-girl, but when I saw the actual story it makes sense. She was just a poor child with mental problems being raised by another poor child who had to be a father figure without even having one. Ashley is extremly dependant of him cuz' she always had Andrew, the reason she's so obsessed is both because her already mental problems and because he's her everything. The reason they make "THAT" is because neither of them doesn't know how to express love because they were never taught. Very messed up how bad parenting, loneliness, neglection both physical and mental ruin lives. I kinda hated ashley but now i pity her as Andrew

When I first learned that the Graves sold out their own children, I wondered why Andrew was the only one upset by this. Ashley, doesn't even bring it up when she's guarding her parents. But this video explained it; from Ashley's perspective, her parents selling her out is just a natural extension of how they treated her for her whole childhood. It's nothing new to her.

When Mrs. Graves asks if Andrew and Ashley have been fooling around, the way she asks it clearly BEGS for Andrew to point the similarities between mother and daughter and how they like to tease and gaslight with dirty talk; Ashley definitely heard the conversation and acted the way she acted to gross her mother out. Yet, Andrew doesn't point the hypocrisy of his mother, nor does he compare his sister to their mother. Why? Because he worships Ashley and has a lot of pride in the fact that she survived a hostile domicile and went to become an adult woman thanks to his efforts. That's also why Andrew didn't lay his hands on Ashley until that point. Ashley, on the other hand, absolutely adores to be the center of attention, but the only person who doesn't neglect her (because he doesn't give a damn about how creepy she is) is her own older brother. She knows that he worships her, and enjoys it. But the thing is: 1- Andrew inherited his mother's insane libido and sadism. He's easily shook and initially had a normal relationship with Ashley, but thanks to their killing spree, he's been desensitized to murder, leaving his desire to cause harm to bloom freely, and due to Ashley's sexual innuendos and actual attractive appearance, his sexual appetite is slowly eating him up. 2- Ashley inherited her mother's lack of pudor and manipulative nature. She doesn't want to get into Andrew's pants per see, but she knows that this is an effective way to keep him for herself. Moreover, because she's so "whatever" for romance and sex herself, she won't ever pursuit another man, which only fuels Andrew's worship fantasies.

Nice video. A possibility is that the mother is a lesser or as much of a yandere as Ashley (or at the very least, very possessive). That's why she didn't care too much about her children and seem to only love her husband very much, while also explaining why she is so good at manipulation (just like Ashley) and willing to sell her children for their organs (There's NO WAY a loving mother wouldn't look or at the very least try to help them). That's why she said to Andrew that she 'didn't hate them', which she probably didn't since she did raised them and some maternal instinct mixed in there, but she never said she really love them either (and downright hating Ashley). This also explain why she snap at Ashley cutting her husband and don't react as much when she got cut, even Ashley can tell her mother wanted to gouge her eyes out for harming her 'beloved'. Could probably explain why she got pregnant so young, too.

It’s impressive that their parents got distinctive personality. Hope they release the information of chapter 3 earlier😢😢

Bro youre the first channel ive bumped into thats really breaking this games writing and interactions down so hard. Crazy. Im gunna be sad once part 3 finale drops and this all ends but damn ur good for now

There is currently one theory I have seen which I think is the most plausible: Its that Andrew actually has split personality syndrome, one is Andrew and one is Andy. People have noticed that Andrew has these weak moments where he always tells his sister to go away but still listen to her. This might be the "Andy" that Ashley talked about who is more obedient. The future that involves Andrew kiling Ashley might actually be Andy finally snapping after being obdient for so long. This might be the personality that did not want to kill his parents and regretted it, hence explaining why Andrew suddenly has such a sydden shift in personality when the parents offered to help. The other one which Ashley is afraid of is "Andrew". This personality seems to be more calculating, less empathetic and cares more about getting Ashley under his submission. You can see this personality in a lot of cutscenes where he touches Ashley in a more personal way. This personality might also be the one that went red face when his mom said he fucked Ashley and when he had that dream. This personality clearly wants a relationship with Ashley. This might also be the one who had a relationship with Julia because noticed how he asked her to tie her hair up to look like his sister. This is the only reasonable explanation why Andrew's personality is so inconsistent a lot of times like a drastic 180 of his previous self. Some people say hes developing stockholm syndrome but I feel like the split personality makes way much more sense. People make Andrew as the victim but hes just basically as insane and as mentally ill as Ashley, he just hides it much better than her.

Love the face of the mother in the left door

I think Mr Graves is some hapless rube who got yandere'd by Mrs Graves in high school

I will point out again and again that it speaks something about mom more then the siblings because she jumped to this conclusion instead of "Love her" considering the L word can carry same implications yet more correct at this point at time. Never even once "I love you" was said by Miss Graves so maybe your point that they were sex obsessed holds water here too. When it's her only way to show affection no wonder she projecting it on other peoples too. Oh and also Ashley is not that different in that regard with her neighbors comment afterwards, like mom like daughter.

There's a little extra detail that I don't know if it was mentioned by anyone else. Ashley's sociopathic tendencies aside, one more piece of evidence of a lack of proper and healthy parenting is how Andrew and Ashley talk to each other as kids. And by that, I mean how much they cussed. If we do go off of their parents first raising them as teenagers, and their mother only been an early teen when she gave birth to Andrew, that's a clear sign that they weren't ready to be parents and their horniness was likely combined with cussing. It's not just that gorey movie they watched in that cutscene. I'm of Andrew and Ashley's generation (If the game takes place in current day, that is. There's no signs of current day technology like computers or mobile phones or stuff like that.), and what seems to be a constant about teens in media and in real life is how much cussing there is, regardless of where they got it from. Andrew tells Ashley to watch her mouth, only to cuss at her, himself. It'd be one thing if Ashley got the cussing from Andrew, but Andrew probably got it from his immature parents. People don't become dysfunctional, mentally ill, or even sane with some vulgarity to them since a very young age, without being raised in an unhealthy environment. That is all.

Just for some added lore… I’m headcanoning that that single out of place chair in the parent’s room is a cuck chair. 🤫

the only part of this that doesnt make sense to me is why their mom told Andrew the actual address of their house, clearly the parents bought the house after they got quarantined and siblings had no phone or computer to confirm what house they bought. I have a feeling that atleast at some point the mother might have actually wanted andrew and only andrew to escape and come home to they, the mother clearly had a distain for ashley but seemingly had hope for andrew.

Ashley is pure evil and is still a more redeemable character than the parents

Man, looking back at this, I wish that at least for one of the endings the Graves parents weren’t killed off so soon. I understand why they had to do it, but I feel like they could’ve been fun to watch just for one more chapter at least.

Way to call out my addiction to this game. Also I wonder how things could’ve been if their parents actually made time for Ashley. That birthday scene is really sad to me…

I don't really agree with the fact that the mom caused the love/sex between Andrew and Ashley because there's some CG where you can see them clearly have a more intimate relationship than normal siblingship, not full blown sexual stuff though. For example there's one during the cooking scene (at least before the whole sacrifice thing) where Andrew has his hand on her ass and fingers in the beltloop, like litteraly, not something 'normal', Also he, supposedly, fakes nightmare, to have her console him by letting him sleep with her. During these things Ashley is not disgusted at all, and, in fact initiates some of it.

I think this game is fantastic on portraying the side effects made by the people around you, and in spite of everything, it gives a lot to think about. I don’t feel like making a long comment, so I just think of a moral of the story. Andrew and Ashley are mostly the way they are because of the selfishness of their parents. If you are a parent, love your children. If you feel like you can’t love them, remember that you have a responsibility. It’s a must that you learn to love them. Ask for the right people to help you with this! Remember that you don’t need to be a perfect parent, as long as you try! If you’re thinking of being a parent, take into account if it’s something you can do it. If it isn’t, maybe you want to postpone the idea until things get better. This is for everyone’s sake. If you don’t care of all of this, well, you can do whatever you want! In fact, everyone is free to do whatever they want. But remember. These actions will come back to you eventually, just like Andrew and Ashley did at the end of the game. It may sound like this game is a bit overdramatizing. I don’t think so. This is something that could happen for real. And surely it happened once. To end in positive note, always remember to treat well the people around you, either if you’re a parent or a son or daughter, and these good actions will eventually reflect on the others! :)

Though andrew has screws loose it honselty feels like it was the people and situations he finds himself in that made them loose and continue to be loose till they fly off he was born in the wrong family and the wrong time

"Andrew! Weren't you supposed to be masturbating?" ok i had enough of this game

3:53 i actually think the souls in that stage is andrew and ashley. Why? Because the mother's eyes are yellow and the dad is pink. The white soul has green eyes which indicates andrew, and the dark soul is y'know who- So i also think the other ghosts there, are actually the parents! What kinda doesnt make sense is why the green-eye soul and dark soul are there if they represent ashley and andrew. They're not dead yet

I didn't fall for her lies, i fell for that intense stare of disaproval, hot damn momma

Jesus Christ this is like Undertale 2015 all over again for me. Not complaining in the slightest.

I like your videos a lot! And I love this game. It's interesting how despite being evil (or at least totally selfish and practically heartless) Mrs. Graves is still an intriguing and appealing character.

We both know damn well where the comic at the end came from. And I'm gonna say this first: "curiousity killed the cat" 18:21 is the exact reaction I gave at the time.

A lot of people genuinely think Mrs.Graves didn't know she was signing her children's deaths with that insurance scam. While I do think that is copium, I think there is more going on with her attempts to appeal to Andrew other than just manipulating her way out of being killed. A lot of this hinges on the unspoken conversation she wanted to have with Andrew in private BEFORE Ashley pulled the gun on her. This goes back to her treatment of Andrew over Ashley. Andrew was obviously the favored child and this is spoken of far more in subtext than just what is shown in the CGs. Great example, Andrew is 22 and his parents have been PAYING for him to go to college and for his admittedly expensive textbooks, Ashley is 20 and yet there is no mention of her attending or even being offered the opportunity to attend college. Considering the parent's teenage pregnancy, its very doubtful they ever managed to attend or graduate college themselves, so the fact they even attempted to get Andrew through it speaks volumes to how much more they valued him over his sister. Beyond being the favored child, I think Andrew was the only child actually loved by his parents. When I say "his parents" though, I really just mean Mrs.Graves since Mr.Graves doesn't do jackshit. The reason I think Mrs.Graves abandoned him with Ashley though is because she acknowledged that as Ashley's sole caregiver, Andrew would never willingly walk away from her with them if she offered him a chance to get in on the insurance scam. This is why I think she wanted to talk with him before getting pulled into the basement by Ashley. I think she genuinely feels guilty about putting him in this situation where he's had no choice but to emotionally attach himself to Ashley because she never gave him any option to do anything else. If she hadn't done that, its entirely possible she could have walked away with only the parts of the family she actually cared about, instead of having to abandon him with the unwanted child. This is partly why I think her apology is genuine. She's just not apologizing for the reason you think she is. She's not apologizing for outsourcing raising Ashley onto someone else. She's apologizing that it had to be him and that damned him in the present by association. Note this still makes her a terrible person and an AWFUL parent as well.

I NEVER NOTICED THE MOMS SOUL, BECAUSE MY SCREEN SETTINGS WERE SO DIM AND IVE REWATCHED THAT PART LIKE 5 TIMES.

Glad to see this vid as people point out about how Andrew, Ashley, and their relationship are all toxic so this compilation shows how the parents play a big factor on why the siblings are the way they are.

It really says a lot about the mom's mentality of love and loyalty that her first assumption of why Andrew was going along with Ashley's ideas is that he was screwing her. Instead of maybe that Ashley was the most constant presence in his life, unlike the parents. Or that like it or not, they're too attached at the hip to think of abandoning one another. Or maybe he's realized he's just as deranged or too far down the rabbit hole and now sees no point in trying to fit in with the rest of the family. Or MAYBE that he can see she's full of crap after she tried to explain away the fact that she literally sold them for parts. Andrew isn't stupid and she should've factored that in. But no, she believes that sex needs to be used to gain someone's loyalty.

Idk if you touched on this or not... But whats interesting is the symbolism of a tree when in the demon world. They're all over in the demon world and prominently stick out over the "questionable" route path door. It gets more interesting when you realise out of all the outcomes Ashley can pick, that route is heavily influenced by the "Lord Unknown" as he is most prominent in that one. Almost in mockery of the "family tree."

Man, after hearing the controversy of this game. I was hesitant to check this out but turns out it was kinda... Idk, mixed feeling about it but I do feel sad for Leyley before everything went bad. The parents need proper parenting tbh.

18:29 Too little way too late. Want to pretend to be a loving caring parent now that you're tied to a post and think something is going to happen to you. Earnestly, no sympathy. What shit people.

Wonder if there could’ve been a ending where they just live happily with their parents instead of sacrificing them.

Actually I think the portrait riddle is both a part of their memories and how they perceived there environment. If you read the signs below the portraits their titles are: Parents, Siblings, Friends and Classmates. On the Parents portrait you can see how the mother is annoyed about her children. I assume that Ashley and maybe Andrew too, had the feeling that they weren't important in the family at all. Classmates seems to be a memory of their school days. I'm not really sure about the meaning but I assume it represents as something like "safe space" from all the toxicity at home, as we can see that they are bit more happy there. "Friends" portrays Andrew's connections with others but it also shows how Ashley was unsatisfied or maybe even angry about how she had to act nice to them. Plus, we see that she definetly knew that the "friend" had a crush on Andy as she blushes in that portrait. Siblings represents Ashley's and Andrew's love to each other, but here still as platonic (probably) and nothing that extreme. However! If you alter the portraits via the Andrew doll, the titles change too. "Classmates" becomes to "Soulmates", "Parents" becomes to "Family" and "Friends" becomes to "Lovers". "Family" is probably the most messed up thing here, as Ashley sees her brother as her true parents. Meaning, Andrew is both a "real" mother and father to her in the same time. That she sees herself as a very happy new born child, just reinforce this theory. In short: she brainwashed them, so that they become the only focus to each other and are also the only ones who care to each other. This is also the reason why we have the incest scene, why Ashley becomes more empathic and worried to Andrew and even accepts to not call him Andy anymore, and also the reason why they become less toxic to each other and why Andrew acts now even more caring and loving to her than before. It's in a way kinda ironic. You did something toxic to turn them less toxic. XD I also disagree that the parents are lovers. I see it more like that the mother considers her family more like pets. And her husband is more or less her favourite pet. Sure there is the wine and steak but I don't think that this alone is a guarantee for their love. If that would be the case and the father is just a simple masochist who enjoys his fetish while they have sex, then why considered he suicide in the memory of Andrew's blood oath memory. Plus the narrator itself said that he had "the enthusiasm of a dead fish". This is NOT the behaviour of a sane, normal person. He is broken. Now you could say "but if he isn't a masochist who just the sex but a broken man, why should he be worried about her? And why should she be worried about him?". Well, that is simple: it is BECAUSE his broken personality and submissivness , that he turned to an obedient slave of her and so, still had feelings like worryness towards her. He is similar like a dog who was trained that way to listen to everything what its mistress says. The mother on the other hand, considers him more like a loyal, cute pet. Imagine her attachment to him similar like John Wick's attachment to his dog. That's the answer. Yeah, there are attemps where the father tries to solve the conflict peacefully but in the end he still shut is mouth when his wife told so. Plus, you don't have to forget that the mother doesn't comprehend the emotion of love. She just knows sex and desire but that's it. While I can't say this for sure, I believe that she just get together with Andrew's father because she saw a chance to live out her sadistic dark desires on him. And as the father was probably at that point in love with her, it became even more easy. However, like I said, this is just a theory. To conclude this: I don't think that the family was ever healthy. The mother was just too fucked up and ruined everyone. She broke her husband, made Ashley even worse as treated her like an outcast and probably even manipulated Andrew so that he would willingly execute all her responsibilities as a mother. I mean, hell, even in the dialogue between her and Andrew about Ashley, she tried to manipulate him so that he would care about all the troublemakers in her job instead of her, had he accept the job offer! I think honestly, that she is even worse than Ashley. Ashley at least knows the concept of love even if she express it in an unhealthy, toxic way. The mother on the other hand, just knows sex and that's it. Platonic love, empathy and caring are beyond her comprehension. Otherwise she wouldn't have instantly accused Andrew to fuck his sister. Anyway that's my interpretation. PS : sorry for the novel comment. XD

ok but the scenes where the mom tries to separate those two for work, or when she found them up at night, both are so hilarious to me, like ma'am, what are you thinking? who let her cook?

this game for straight 13 days…wow, that is a lot of days.

The Coffin of Andy and Leyley “We made incest and parricide funny!”

Dad is a doormat, Mom sees her horrible self in her own daughter and both kids have screws not even there anymore. A mess makes a mess and it turns into a big mess. Oh what a nice family.

Amazing analysis

Mr. And Mrs. Graves seem to be like: "Oh yeah, let's not even keep Andrew with us, let's sell him for spare parts along with his sister, let's screw the fact that we'll be even more unhappy to not become the grandparents...yaaayyy"... Seriously, If I was on A&A's parents' place, I would keep one of them...I'm sure there IS some good future for that good chap Andy.

Perfect representation of like parents like siblings

I think it would be pretty cool if once nemlei finished all chapters of this game, a dlc where you side with your parents as andrew would be very intriguing

17:23 The sheer disappointment and disgust is hilarious

I hate it when I think about whether their parents are really that bad

i swear to god these kids have the worst home lives humanly possible. now that i know the lore i actually understand them kind of. i feel really bad

I really would not be suprised if Andrew and Ashley were parallels of their parents, but with their worst traits take to an extreme. Mr. Graves seems to suffer from straight up depression, clinically so. He's less a person and more of a zombie that's just going through the motions in a haze. Only snapping out of it when he realised his son thought he was about to commit suicide right in front of him. Much like how Andrew is supremely apathetic just to escape his own guilt and hate for both Ashley and himself. We know a bit more about Ms.Graves. She seems incredibly dismissive of her children and has an iron grip on her husband. That combined with the fact that she apparently had Ashley when she was 15, I wouldn't be suprised if she saw her own children as just a way to control him and rope him into a relationship with her. Now just a distraction that she doesn't need. That and the way she uses apologies as just another form of manipulation, really shows where Ashley *really* got her behaviour from. And the fact that Andrew practically took care of her instead of them, paints a pretty vivid picture of why she went completely off the rocker.

Very good video. In fact, there are the fourth chair in their new house, which behind the closet of their bedroom. The Graves’ just considered that Ashley doesn’t deserve to have it.😢

lol I loved the intro

Best moment in the game 😂 0:28

poor dad, he deserved better lmao

nobody can really expect an underaged mother to take care of a child properly- but when they -decided- to have Ashley and still continued being neglectful? that's where it all went wrong.

17:06 oh come on, it's "at least" your video is amazing btw

atp im obsessed with this game

Honestly. Ashley seemed somewhat okay at really young ages. Even being a bit sad about her friends not hanging out with her etc. Honestly. Although she may be somewhat sociopathic. (Incapable of perfectly feeling empathy.) She may not have ended out a bad person. As there are many funtioning members of society with sociopathic personalities. And if raised properly/given the option to emotionally even out. Her sociopathy could have been lessened. At the very least she wouldn't be so clingy and controlling of Andrew. She wouldn't be so spiteful and violent. And she may even have learned some form of Empathy. They mught have ended out as somewhat decent people.

I have always loved visual games, NomnomNami's and Nemlei's in particular... but damn... Episode 2 is wild with the endings and such

My gosh I feel so sorry for them now! Their childhood especially LeyLey was beyond twisted with no love and carring from their family! The only one remains there for LeyLey was Andy! Everything terrible and twisted things they have done! All just because they were unhappy without each other in the past