Flowmaster Super 40 vs Super 44?

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Mykk Hannan

Mykk Hannan

13 жыл бұрын

This is my Silverado. I am debating installing the Super 40's or the Super 44's. What do you think?
The engine is a 86-95 350ci block, four bolt mains, roller cam. Bored .040"
ZZ4 rotating assembly, Speed Pro H345NCP-40 pistons
10.7:1 static compression, .032" Quench/Squish height.
Patriot 'Vortec' 185cc heads, 2.02"/1.6" valves, Beehive springs.
Comp XR276HR-10 cam, 1.52 rockers.
Air-Gap dual plane, 1" four hole tapered spacer, Mighty Demon 750cfm annular boosters.
MSD ignition, Summit dist dialed in for 36 degrees @ 3000rpm. 18 degrees initial. +12 vacuum advance on manifold vacuum.

Пікірлер: 340
@LinusScrubTips
@LinusScrubTips 9 жыл бұрын
Personally the open headers sounded the best lol.
@marcusdaog
@marcusdaog 3 жыл бұрын
yeah dat first one sound beast 🦍
@AngryDogPerformance
@AngryDogPerformance 12 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the head to head comparison w/ a baseline. much appriciated.
@hernandezlee37
@hernandezlee37 4 жыл бұрын
Quick simple and clear! Thanks man!
@sandorspalms
@sandorspalms 8 жыл бұрын
40 is less raspy. It has a deeper tone. Better choice for me.
@jeepowner2858
@jeepowner2858 7 жыл бұрын
Sandor Alex Fazekas sounds like a muscle car
@KsKaylor
@KsKaylor 9 жыл бұрын
44s, but please run tail pipes, Flows sound horrible just dumped, does them ZERO justice.
@matthewbramlett9275
@matthewbramlett9275 7 жыл бұрын
Kyle K Man I agree there bud.
@bootyman234
@bootyman234 6 жыл бұрын
NOOOO! actually NOTHING sounds as clean and raw! as a flowmaster dumped. But there you have it huh,? The need to qualify your comment by saying "in my opinion" because obviously they VARY! All the over loud crap being run on these new mustangs Vettes and camaros are just "look at me" modifications...IN MY OPINION; and like assholes, everyone has one and it stinks. =)
@baptizedbyfire13
@baptizedbyfire13 6 жыл бұрын
Totally right, without pipes these mufflers sound nasal. I run mine with pipes and actually turn the pipes down. When sound hits and bounces off the road the 44s take 1st place. I have a single 3" inlet with dual 2.5 outlet and I have those 2.5 coming out the passenger side just before tue rear tire and have them turned down. The sound is boss in my old low and slo 4.3l.
@Payne427
@Payne427 6 жыл бұрын
KsKaylor the full length pipe with the 44 and 40 series gives it that crappy popping and dying throttle body barf tone. If you give it a turn down tip after the muffler, it sounds so Ballanced.
@KingJT80
@KingJT80 5 жыл бұрын
@@Payne427 they were never meant to be run dumped. If you wanna dump the exhaust, get bullets..original 40s sound the way they sound because of the tailpipes. Otherwise you'll get a horrible drone you wouldn't get with dynomax bullets turned down.
@Superfistor
@Superfistor 11 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! I liked the sound of the 40s, it had a lower pitch. I was looking for a muffler to buy and now i know which one to get. Thanks again.
@timklanica7609
@timklanica7609 9 жыл бұрын
I liked the higher pitched sound of the 44's, but without tailpipes I think the sound isn't accurate or as good as it can be.
@fast2doorchevy
@fast2doorchevy 11 жыл бұрын
sounds good to me i like how fast it revs
@04SilveradoMykk
@04SilveradoMykk 13 жыл бұрын
@IMAFAKE46: It's about tone, not volume.
@Bigmac4g63
@Bigmac4g63 9 жыл бұрын
Definitely 40s. 44s were too high pitched 40s were a little quieter but better sound.
@user-sj8oo1hs4d
@user-sj8oo1hs4d 10 жыл бұрын
I have the 350 in my 90' and I'm running the super 40 with hedman headers. I love the sounds.
@SUPERMAN768284
@SUPERMAN768284 7 жыл бұрын
your engine mods looks like a good combination. what numbers are you getting as far as torque
@427trucky
@427trucky 11 жыл бұрын
Both sound great. I'd go with the 44s.
@five9carmageddon888
@five9carmageddon888 7 жыл бұрын
God damn. sounds wicked
@mega-hb4re
@mega-hb4re 6 жыл бұрын
44's for sure but I love the sound with the open headers
@jprater1000
@jprater1000 11 жыл бұрын
Great video
@ICONBADGTA
@ICONBADGTA 3 жыл бұрын
SUPER 40 DEFINITELY!! I wish though you had also the normal 2 chamber classic 40 series also, would have really gave you the "BEST SOUND GAMBIT" flowmaster has to offer!!
@gearhead7961
@gearhead7961 11 жыл бұрын
I like the sound of the 44s better. Good comparison video, thanks!
@slowthriller
@slowthriller 4 жыл бұрын
The original 40 series is king. No mistaking that sound. Always turned heads and sounded like a cammed motor with a deep echoing hollow tone.
@robbyrocks3665
@robbyrocks3665 7 жыл бұрын
I Just had Flow master "original series" installed on 5.7 Hemi......I highly recommend! extremely happy with the tones...granted, motor has only 575 miles new...not sure if I can decide based on this video....I think a quality mic. might give a more accurate sound
@Turco949
@Turco949 11 жыл бұрын
I love my Gibson on my Silverado 1500, it has a nice deep tone to it but not too loud. Cool Air Intake and Exhaust mods were the best mods for it, bar none!
@jprater1000
@jprater1000 12 жыл бұрын
i like both i have 40's on one of my trucks .So i will be putting 44's on the other one .thanks 4 the video
@SJWOLFE87
@SJWOLFE87 12 жыл бұрын
I've got a 95 1500 with a 350, single 44 downturn, no cat or resonator. love it. sets off car alarms 200 feet away.
@buddybimmer9
@buddybimmer9 11 жыл бұрын
what setup can i have where there is none of that sound as you let off the gas? i like when you rev it up, just hate the backsucking sound or whatever you would call it.
@04SilveradoMykk
@04SilveradoMykk 12 жыл бұрын
The engine specs are in the video description. Good compression, ideal quench/squish height, full roller valve train and a balanced rotating assembly make for a quick reving engine.
@huntingnh11
@huntingnh11 7 жыл бұрын
love the sound. om the super 40 where are the inlet and out pipes. middle side both middle or both on sides
@Dr_Xyzt
@Dr_Xyzt 11 жыл бұрын
Didn't you have another video with a side pipe setup on this truck?
@thecraftsman8133
@thecraftsman8133 6 жыл бұрын
What kind of fuel do you run in your engine? Pump gas? or do you have to use higher octane due to the compression? I am wondering if the .032 quench gives you a tight enough clearance that allows good turbulence during squish mixing the fuel up for a better mixture allowing pump gas??? I'm doing a very similar build as you so I am curious as to how the quench is working out on running fuel choice. Race fuel is expensive! and i want to be able to have the convenience of pulling up to any gas station lol.
@AllAlaskan907
@AllAlaskan907 9 жыл бұрын
Something else to, regardless of the fact these are an all metal muffler they DO have a break in period. I dont understand it but having run different Flowmasters on several different vehicles I have noticed after a few hundred miles they start to sound better and around 1000 miles they are louder and deeper than when you first put the muffler on. Not sure why, but it has happened EVERY time I have used Flowmasters. I have used them on 4 or 5 different vehicles now and every time they have sounded louder and deeper after around 1000 miles have been put on the vehicle after the muffler was installed. That said, my point is these mufflers will sound better after they are broke in so slapping them on the truck revving it a few times then swapping them is not going to give you a true feel for what they are going to sound like in a few months.
@Trikster1of4
@Trikster1of4 8 жыл бұрын
Same thing happened with the super 44 on my maxima. I had it installed just about a year ago and it now has a louder, deeper tone to it than when it was brand new.
@greggarner4477
@greggarner4477 6 жыл бұрын
Heat and cool cycles change metal. A break in is always going to change any muffler. Yes, they sound much better after break in.
@jamyers121
@jamyers121 6 жыл бұрын
You get used to the sound. Those mufflers do not change in geometry or composition. If you spec them new they will spec out the same a year later unless they corrode enough to change the size or shape of the baffle inside. Your ears are getting used to the sound or your car is running differently after a year. Just like with all our senses, our body adjusts to any changes to our environment.
@DJKEYS-br1xh
@DJKEYS-br1xh 5 жыл бұрын
I must agree.i used them for years and after a while the tone gets deeper and louder
@rustyjeep2469
@rustyjeep2469 Жыл бұрын
I've noticed this as well... even after the "break in period"; on a hot day after a long drive the exhaust on my 4.0L Jeep with a Super 40 sounds louder and deeper than it does normally. It's strange but it's very audible. It doesn't have any exhaust leaks and the muffler has been on for 4-5 years, and yet when it gets thoroughly hot it changes in tone...
@boisestatee
@boisestatee 11 жыл бұрын
I have the Super 44s on my 2005 Dodge Ram 1500 single cab pick-up and they sound wicked awesome!
@driverjamescopeland
@driverjamescopeland 12 жыл бұрын
Given the choice between the two, from what I can hear on the video would be the 40s... personally though I would have to say 50s or 70 big block IIs..... what cam are you running? Throttle response sounds great.
@timothyfoeks6446
@timothyfoeks6446 4 жыл бұрын
I love the rumble of flowmaster but I'd run open headers just because I love really really loud exhaust !!!! 😁😁😁😁
@fabiofranzoni
@fabiofranzoni 11 жыл бұрын
44 !! It has a high frequency sound in the moment that you accelerate... Reminds me the drags in the 1980... Great sound...
@BabyJ90thadon
@BabyJ90thadon 9 жыл бұрын
definitely super 40
@devynvehue8453
@devynvehue8453 10 жыл бұрын
How did you get it so responsive? Please message back building a 350 4 bolt and like the throttle response a lot!!
@but199018
@but199018 12 жыл бұрын
are you running them with turndown tips or just str8 out of the mufflers?
@motabandito
@motabandito 2 жыл бұрын
So...what'd ya end up putting on? I just got the 44s for my 4.8...bill at az exhaust is doin it up on the 30th
@marcuskicker
@marcuskicker 10 жыл бұрын
with the engine build and details you gave? what does she feel like? any regrets? I have a weak 305 and 355 in a Silverado and a Camaro...and was let down with my 355...I don't have gears yet...might wake it up...but I think my next 2 might be 406s with 430hp and 530 ft lbs all below 5000 rpm.... I am going to try gears on my 355 Camaro first and maybe a great set of heads but ...if fails to impress ..totally going 406 or destroked 400 and rev to the moon
@ghostman3344
@ghostman3344 5 жыл бұрын
both applications sound good to me
@minhhuynh9644
@minhhuynh9644 5 жыл бұрын
I don’t know if it’s my headphones or pipe size or wind , that’s the weirdest Flowmaster sound ever .
@Superthecod
@Superthecod 2 жыл бұрын
That’s a flow master sound 110%. I guess you haven’t been around cars :)
@04SilveradoMykk
@04SilveradoMykk 12 жыл бұрын
@driverjamescopeland. Thanks, it's a Comp Cams XR276HR-10 roller.
@sb0mb
@sb0mb 13 жыл бұрын
Which fuel cell did you use I am trying to increase my capacity and move more weight to behind the axle. I also hate flowdiasters. Put some magna flows on it :P
@dirtrokker4
@dirtrokker4 12 жыл бұрын
i like the open exhaust
@sb0mb
@sb0mb 12 жыл бұрын
@copperfield0990 You sir are elevated on some good stuff
@bikeandboard100
@bikeandboard100 4 жыл бұрын
Hey man are you running aftermarket fly wheel is so what weight?
@mutchock1
@mutchock1 12 жыл бұрын
to me they both sound good but id say the 40's. how did you get around the computer on your silverado? i want to build my engine but i have been told that the computer will just limit it back down.
@fbr-fieldboyzracing9238
@fbr-fieldboyzracing9238 9 ай бұрын
Both sound good Super 44s best overall sound to me from experience
@BigPimpB1
@BigPimpB1 12 жыл бұрын
so the super 40 is deeper than the regular 40, what else is the difference between the two? is the super 40 also louder?
@nandoGdog
@nandoGdog 10 жыл бұрын
Call me crazy but I prefer the original 2 chamber 40 series.
@bootyman234
@bootyman234 6 жыл бұрын
That's because you're NOT crazy. =) But the supper 40"s here still have that subdued monster note.
@bryanroupe8646
@bryanroupe8646 4 жыл бұрын
That pretty much the only muffler I run on my mustangs.
@04SilveradoMykk
@04SilveradoMykk 11 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@KillingJokes97
@KillingJokes97 11 жыл бұрын
I kinda like the sound, I know it's weird, but I think it give it character
@havinfun42
@havinfun42 11 жыл бұрын
Once you put the tail pipes on it will sound way different , I find the regular 40 series or the super 44 would be better.
@04SilveradoMykk
@04SilveradoMykk 12 жыл бұрын
If there is anything thing I have learned about exhaust tone is tht it's highly personal preference. If you want your Elky to have a deeper 'Big Block' sound go with the SUPER 40's (Not 40's), if you want an edgier & more 'high reving' sound go with the Super 44's. I personally would go with Super 40's. However, the exhaust note will change depending on how many mods the engine and car has or doesn't have...
@ramblnman24
@ramblnman24 11 жыл бұрын
sounded like the 44's revved quicker and higher... and sounded meaner too! cant wait for my 44's to arrive!!
@quasiczarcasm
@quasiczarcasm 11 жыл бұрын
I've got 44 on my 3.9 dak. Unless you hear it next to the 5.2 or if I get it into the upper revs people think I have a V8. I love it and it's going to stay that way until I get the time and money to do a 4bt swap.
@bigluke7842
@bigluke7842 8 жыл бұрын
the 44 sounds good. i gotta 5.3 z71 Chevy Suburban. just looking for that deep rumble.
@1cartwomany
@1cartwomany 12 жыл бұрын
that engines rev fast! any idea on power level?
@Tatsumari_K
@Tatsumari_K 11 жыл бұрын
Have you considered trying a 50 series?
@pilotocomercial17
@pilotocomercial17 11 жыл бұрын
the truck have a cam or its original ?
@04SilveradoMykk
@04SilveradoMykk 12 жыл бұрын
@SLUTT559. In my experience, High compression, Camshaft & Valve timing events, Big tube headers, and big exhaust pipe size have the largest effect on exhaust volume. Not necessarily how much displacement an engine has.
@codyparker679
@codyparker679 3 жыл бұрын
A nasty 302 sounds Wilder then a bassically stock stroker big block
@edsonrobles1548
@edsonrobles1548 4 жыл бұрын
I put on my 02 Silverado 44s ' I still think it's the best on 5.3 vortec engine. Even I still think I'm going to buy 2 for my new Silverado :)
@henrywashingtoniii7848
@henrywashingtoniii7848 8 жыл бұрын
both sound good but them 44's take it hands down
@lapierrejr8
@lapierrejr8 11 жыл бұрын
Got a set arriving on Friday! You get yours yet?
@LtSplatter
@LtSplatter 12 жыл бұрын
i have super 40 on my truck and i love it
@jeffquinones4007
@jeffquinones4007 7 жыл бұрын
Whats better for a b22 90, super 44 or 40
@04SilveradoMykk
@04SilveradoMykk 11 жыл бұрын
Thank you, click on "Show more" in the description. Cheers
@TheFman43
@TheFman43 11 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with you ...something about maybe not having the bed on ...that makes the sound seem 'hollow' ...thin sounding ...?
@rompn4x
@rompn4x 8 жыл бұрын
44's sound more aggressive.
@ctcbean1
@ctcbean1 11 жыл бұрын
Super44 has a more agressive idle tone that I liked, but then the reving sound just killed it... like something was off. For that I liked the Super40 better.
@motabandito
@motabandito 2 жыл бұрын
I miss this truck btw...
@04SilveradoMykk
@04SilveradoMykk 12 жыл бұрын
The Summit street strip, as well as the Thrush welded mufflers, are copies of the Flowmaster 40. Not the Super 40. The difference being the muffler case width, the FM 40 and copies have a 4" thick case. The Super 40 has a 5" thick case and different baffle configuration inside. The Summit mufflers & Thrush mufflers are a good inexpensive alternative to the Flowmaster 40. Cheers.
@arthurshortlidge7188
@arthurshortlidge7188 4 жыл бұрын
Delta or origonal 40s?
@gerrycantral6352
@gerrycantral6352 11 жыл бұрын
40's sound good to me. All up to you, have to consider drone.
@jlewis572
@jlewis572 2 жыл бұрын
super 44 sounded the best to my ears. thats what im using on my 01 s10 extreme with a 383
@04SilveradoMykk
@04SilveradoMykk 12 жыл бұрын
@90350Chevy. I mostly use the Super 40's, to me it sounds Deeper, Throatier and "Bigger" than the Super 44's Search my vids for "Mykk's 2004 Silverado, build video"...at around 4:30 in that vid you can hear the Super 40's on the street.
@jporter833
@jporter833 7 жыл бұрын
Which brand head gaskets
@iliketrucks.1168
@iliketrucks.1168 6 жыл бұрын
open headers sounds sweeet
@benjaminleemon9199
@benjaminleemon9199 3 жыл бұрын
Gonna roast me for this prob, but I have true dual into two separate super 10's with about 10" of pipe and then turndowns and it sounds great to me!!! Sbc 5.7 vortec with bbk shorty headers, blackbear tune, volant intake, 100 shot of nitrous
@humbertocampos5606
@humbertocampos5606 10 жыл бұрын
Wat cam do you have?
@blackvan84
@blackvan84 8 жыл бұрын
I LIKE THE 44S
@tuggod73
@tuggod73 9 жыл бұрын
It's all about personal preference. Personally, I prefer Magnaflow...they don't sound like a coffee can.
@able2tell118
@able2tell118 8 жыл бұрын
+tuggod Magnaflows has a deeper sound 4sho
@zxJC34xz
@zxJC34xz 4 жыл бұрын
Um no. Lol
@JOHNNYD4020
@JOHNNYD4020 12 жыл бұрын
i put 40 series on my dakota an its deeper but then i tried 44's an it was louder with more crackel....sepecially when i down shift
@dannyg3445
@dannyg3445 11 жыл бұрын
What Kind Of Toaster Did You Record With It Sounds Bad
@04SilveradoMykk
@04SilveradoMykk 11 жыл бұрын
I like that sound on LSx powered cars, for trucks it's a bit raspy for my taste. On this GenII SBC a catalytic converter wouldn't last very long with the carb and the amount of fuel it throws at it.
@brandonbarnwell7992
@brandonbarnwell7992 5 жыл бұрын
I’ve had both the 40 and now I have 44 the 44 is a deeper and louder tone I like it but the 40 is also a nice noise it revs higher but not louder
@derekm4592
@derekm4592 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve had the 40s if you have to go with the deepest sound which would you go with ?
@LaneTD15
@LaneTD15 11 жыл бұрын
44. why does it seem like you go from a high rpm straight to idle in less than a second?
@elevate_y0urmind
@elevate_y0urmind 12 жыл бұрын
44's ALL THE WAY MAN. SOUNDS GOOD.
@johnogo7886
@johnogo7886 5 жыл бұрын
Next time use old Mopars to do your test, as for me it’s super 44 for my high compression 383 Roadrunner!
@cosmotopper8463
@cosmotopper8463 10 жыл бұрын
paul smith has a good ear i agree
@ihatejustin500
@ihatejustin500 11 жыл бұрын
i like the 44's.
@jasonneal
@jasonneal 12 жыл бұрын
They both sound good, the super 40's sound more like a big block, have you tried the thrush welded chamber 3". my sister has them on her 04 mustang 4.6 and it sounds pretty bad ass. also they only cost $30 each
@suburbanator91
@suburbanator91 Жыл бұрын
If you otherwise like the super 10, but need just a bit of quietness, then the Super44; if you look at the 10 & the 44, it has the same delta plate arrangement in the 1st chamber. The Super 44 is just a Super 10 with an added chamber.
@rustyjeep2469
@rustyjeep2469 Жыл бұрын
Interesting thanks for sharing! How does the design of the Super 40 differ?
@randyer8
@randyer8 13 жыл бұрын
44s sound great!!
@blackvan84
@blackvan84 10 жыл бұрын
open headers sounds the best
@whoewasthatit
@whoewasthatit 12 жыл бұрын
40s are the way to go. i got one on my 93 silverado
@04SilveradoMykk
@04SilveradoMykk 11 жыл бұрын
Perhaps the lack of low-end bass from the camera microphone?
@ziyaeen
@ziyaeen 13 жыл бұрын
44s for sure. More solid sound
@Dr_Xyzt
@Dr_Xyzt 11 жыл бұрын
Flowmaster 70 series in town, then open up some cutouts!
@chevy327sm
@chevy327sm 11 жыл бұрын
I like the 40s, a little deeper on crackin the throttle.
@teoriashail2773
@teoriashail2773 4 жыл бұрын
I LOVE THIS VIDEO 😎❤🎼🎼🎼🎼🎼
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