TQ HPR50 Motor Review | We Test 3 Lightweight e-MTBs With This German-Made Motor

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See the full review and range test results here: flowmountainbike.com/tests/tq...
The TQ HPR50 motor debuted to considerable fanfare back in 2022 when it first appeared on the Trek Fuel EXe. As the lightest motor in its category, the HPR50 drive unit blew everyone away with its astonishingly compact form and whisper-quiet performance, changing our expectations of what a lightweight electric mountain bike could look and sound like.
Initially an exclusive for Trek, the HPR50 motor is now found on several lightweight e-MTBs including the Scott Lumen, Scott Voltage, Mondraker Neat, UNNO Ikki and Simplon Rapcon. The competition in this space is evolving at a rapid rate however, with the likes of the Bosch SX motor, Fazua Ride 60 system and an updated Specialized Levo SL returning fire at TQ.
So, nearly two years on since its official release, are we still just as impressed with the HPR50 motor as the day we first rode it? And how does it stack up against its modern day competitors?
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Video Contents
0:00 - TQ HPR50 Overview
0:42 - Harmonic Pin Ring Design
1:46 - Battery & Controls
2:36 - Strengths
5:02 - Downsides
6:29 - Heat Management
7:27 - Range Testing
8:27 - Optional Range Extender
9:37 - Flow's Verdict
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@diamondMTB 2 ай бұрын

I've done over 2500kms on my EXE and love the intuitive silent ride. TQ, Trek and my LBS have shown amazing support

@arturburakiewicz5401 2 ай бұрын

I definitely agree it is a great bike assist i love it.

@jeanmarc_in_Hudson 2 ай бұрын

Great review thanks! 👍

@silverado5325 2 ай бұрын

1,300 miles on my Trek. Flawless and even quieter now than new.

@skinny8019 2 ай бұрын

thanks for this review....looking forward to getting a trek fuel exe....and the long adventure rides...on my recovery days...

@Canyon_Shawn 2 ай бұрын

I love my EXe9.7. I can’t find any faults with it. I have about 2,500 miles on it. I’ve ridden in 100° + weather without it overheating. And, mine doesn’t have any pedal response problems. Mods I’ve done are: Hope T4E4 brakes. Marzocchi coil kit for the Fox 36 Rhythm fork, 2024 Fox X2 shock. 9Point8 dropper, Wolf Tooth seatpost clamp, stem spacers and cap, SDG saddle, I9 stem, OneUp carbon bar, Death Grip grips, One Up composite pedals and Penny Flake Slik Graphics for the fork and shock to match the frame. I absolutely love it! I wouldn’t change anything.

@sijmes 2 ай бұрын

Sounds like you`ve already changed most of it 🤦‍♂

@Canyon_Shawn 2 ай бұрын

I have a lot to go. But anyway, what’s wrong with that? 🤦🏼‍♂️

@sijmes 2 ай бұрын

We can all relate, just that last sentence was a bit contradictory 😆👍🏻

@Canyon_Shawn 2 ай бұрын

@@sijmes I don’t believe it was. All bikes can be made better by tuning and bolting on parts that better suit the rider. I was referring to the parts that are actually made by Trek and TQ, the base package.

@guambra2001 2 ай бұрын

The Trek Fuel EXe vs Ari Nebo Peak would be a good one.

@sandycarmichael31 2 ай бұрын

Great review Wil 👏. You mentioned how it stacks up against the fazua in terms of peak power and acceleration, just wondering how the tq stacks up against the ep8rs and bosch sx? I'd imagine these motor systems would be closer to the fazua than the tq?

@oettam20 2 ай бұрын

I’ve tried all the light eMTB motors. The SX is by far more powerful of all, then there is the EP8 RS, then Fazua and the others. The RS is more linear of all, the SX is more dynamic…like a two stroke motor with 2 very distinct behaviors at low or high rpm

@chriscathcart5114 2 ай бұрын

Hi there. What or who would you classify as a light/heavy rider ?

@FlowMountainBikeYouTube 2 ай бұрын

I think that definition will mostly be up to the individual when it comes to evaluating where they sit on the weight/fitness spectrum. However, using a Fox suspension setup chart as a guide, the middle of the rider weight range is 82kg. So you could say that riders further north of that would be considered ‘heavy’, and riders much lower than that could be considered ‘light’. Does that help to answer your question? [Wil]

@johnwrycza 2 ай бұрын

@@FlowMountainBikeKZfaq 200lbs is known as clydesdale (think big horse) for male riders, 180lbs (82kg) can seem damn near malnurished for the full time employed 50yr old+ e MTB consumer here in the US

@helicopter12345678 2 ай бұрын

Did you manage to try the Mondraker Neat in your test 🤔

@scottc791 2 ай бұрын

You make reference to a heavier vs lighter rider where would you guys see the weight at which you think this change would be? From someone hoping to get into one to help build fitness and skill

@mwinner101 2 ай бұрын

Look in the mirror. If you could see yourself playing NFL, you’re heavy. If you are thinking that maybe you could be a gymnast, then you’re lightweight. 😂

@PaulGPixelBike 2 ай бұрын

How does it compare to Orbea Rise?

@danh2000 Ай бұрын

I returned my Fuel eXe after the fifth warranty issue over faulty electrics and replaced it with an Orbea Rise, which has been flawless

@elvistang3663 2 ай бұрын

Yep I am a 105kg big boy, full power ebike FTW.

@danh2000 Ай бұрын

I bought a Fuel eXe from Trek when it first came out and loved it when it worked, but I had 5 warranty issues involving the electrics failing in the 3 months I owned it before returning it for a refund. I had never owned a Trek bike before and they were good to deal with, but the bike was rushed out before being ready - I wasted so much money and ruined so many rides that it left a bad taste in my mouth.

@wx2999 2 ай бұрын

At 4:40, you mention that the system can tell based on power output whether someone is on flats or clips. How can this be true? No one has ever been able to demonstrate a difference in power output between flats and clips, even in a laboratory setting, much less an actual trail.

@mwinner101 2 ай бұрын

I just hope all these different batteries from all the different manufacturers stay permanently available. When they stop holding a charge, and the battery is no longer available, these expensive toys are all going to be in the landfill.

@johnnnewmex 2 ай бұрын

I'm not an e-biker but I think your concern would make me choose a larger brand like bike company that you know will still be around in years to become

@tannerjack9520 2 ай бұрын

i want heavy and more power

@giddyup3451 2 ай бұрын

Have heard of more than a few failures of the tq motor.

@jamespond7496 2 ай бұрын

Links /articles/websites..😉

@giddyup3451 2 ай бұрын

@@jamespond7496 Google would have answered your question in the same time it took to write your comment

@jamespond7496 2 ай бұрын

So explain to me why other Bike manufacturers are now fitting the TQ HPR50 motor.😉

@giddyup3451 2 ай бұрын

@@jamespond7496 the same reason specialized kept fitting the brose after it was snapping belts

@jamespond7496 2 ай бұрын

the TQ HPR50 doesn’t have belts

@geoffgoldplum1231 2 ай бұрын

Light weight e-bikes, the perfect bike for exactly no use cases

@Hmanfoil 2 ай бұрын

Haha close minded individual.

@tombeck129 2 ай бұрын

Not everyone needs full power or a 50 lbs pig of a bike.

@coreymclernon 2 ай бұрын

Love your mountain bike videos but e- bikes I could fucking care less. Start another channel for the e-bikes. I’m sure they are fun but that’s not why I follow your channel. I’m 59 years old and don’t have any desire to ride one for some time.

@vashon100 2 ай бұрын

It's actually "couldn't" care less vs could.