Fluff: Here is my clean tone: AC/DC tone

Coming from someone who has been on both sides of it, I think your message is really important. I still get death threats (regarding the 'fake guitar' stuff that happened back in 2019) from fans of certain artists even though those artists and myself are much closer friends now than we ever had been before all that went down. Also seeing how easy it is to (subtly or blatantly) lead fans in whichever direction you want them to go, there needs to be a level of responsibility and understanding from creators. It could literally be the difference of life and death. It's very easy to join into the emotional mob, and when creators know this and use it for financial or personal gain, it can be very scary.

"We're all self-appointed on this platform." Absolutely beautiful insight. And I'm happy the entire thing was eventually resolved maturely. Sometimes shit gets out of hand and the high from internet drama is very real.

KDH is spreading ethical practices in the guitar KZfaq community and it's really refreshing to see. As a fellow Irishman I applaud what you do!

Wanna make fluff angry? Send him a blackstar.

I think Fluff was confused. The Gibson version did start in 2003. The Epiphone one was 2007.

I rather enjoy KDH's pronunciation of "Fløúf."

I can't help but think you could probably do a version of this video once a month until the heat death of the universe and not a single lesson would be learned.

Here's a funny tidbit... I watched one of the episodes where he criticized some one for charging $75 for shipping and he said something along the lines of "For $75 shipping, it better be 2-day delivery or less"... Now, I bought the Relish Mary One from his videos. Purchased it on Reverb from him and it arrived well packed and in great condition, BUUUUUT... He charged me $70 shipping and it took a week or so to get to me. Love the guitar, but if you're going to criticize someone for expensive/slow shipping, you gotta practice what you preach!

"Fluff" said clearly and unambiguously that the listing was bogus. This created the situation where the seller was harassed by "Fluff's" fanboys. Instead of knocking down the harassment, Fluff then endorsed it.. He 100% owed the seller an apology, and the seller was _FAR_ more reserved in answering the accusations in his ad update than I would have been. The seller did _not_ owe Fluff an apology. Fluff was lucky he wasn't hit with a defamation lawsuit.

KDH is my source of music news/drama, becuase I don't pay attention to the scene. Thanks always.

ughhh can't say I'm surprised. It's subconscious that when you have that level of influence to tacitly sit by and enjoy people sticking up for you

I love KDH, he is like that teacher who you think is a dick at school and then you realise that, actually, they were completely fair and considered. Also, it is good to keep some youtubers' egos in check

Watching this during class is educational

In that thread where Fluff "omg'd" at the guy wanting to spam the seller with $1 offers I told Fluff that he went full Rob Chapman there. Wonder if he saw that before he took the community post down.

That changed description of that listing lmao. Major respect for the seller.

The herd mentality is an absolutely ridiculous phenomenon. You can’t fix stupid, but I’m glad you are speaking out against such behavior and using your platform to better the guitar community as a whole.

Dude, the video for Blink 182's "Feeling this" was released in 2003. You can see the guitar there, so it was undeniably produced in 2003.

Trogley’s guitar channel is the go-to Gibson guy. Ask him anything about any Gibson. 👍🏻

The thing that gets me is Fluff’s smugness in the video. I’ve been watching his channel for years & in that time I’ve watched him get more & more douchey. Dude needs to humble it up a bit, pride before the fall & all that. Edit: you’re absolutely right KDH, harassing people is not cool. Just don’t do it.

Exactly why I like your channel man. You come across as quite honest and chilled, as well as informative! Keep it up

He released a video today in which he talks about 'angry reverb sellers' as a result of his videos. Knowing, now, that you've been in contact with him about this, it's a little disappointing that he didn't take 10sec in the new video to say something like "turns out I was more than likely wrong about this listing, I've spoken to the seller, please don't spam them." Especially so considering the comments he made about the status update not getting enough eyes to be really effective.

Feels like every person on the internet starts degrading in their maturity once half-famous

I wish there were more thoughtful people in the world like KDH. The human race often leaves me feeling very hopeless but your video's remind me that there are people out there that have some consideration and kindness left in them and it's one of the few things that still makes my dead heart feel somewhat good.

I don’t know who fluff’s source is at Gibson, but Tom is definitely playing a Gibson just like that one in the music video for “feeling this” back in 2003.

The anti-bullying msg is well appreciated. Mob mentality online is really becoming a huge problem.

The fact he's still saying it's a prototype when it's crystal clear the production started in 2003 really says it all. Childish, egocentric, self righteous. I watched many of that guys video over the years and never subscribed. For a reason. Or many.

There's a lot of narcissitic people pretending to be experts on YT. 😐 Love you bro, keep the great work !

that gang with fluff, jared, steve and all the others is just SO DAMN TOXIC.

What a man. KDH I wish you a million subs in 2021. You just gotta keep the straight head you've developed my sir.

Audience turning into participants sounds like January 6, 2021. That didn’t turn out as well as this did.

Everyone needs a friend like KDH to call them out when they fucked up, and help them see, what they did wrong and how to make it right. It would make everyone better. Keep making the world a better place dude!!

Guitars with that price are just a waste of money

this is nice, KDH is nice, please stay like this forever

he definitely had this guitar in 2003, i saw them then, and a few shows after and countless videos show that he does actually play his sig gibson during the self titled era

Such a cool video to post. Well said, & important to say. ✌️

You're so right about being respectful on here. I think over time we've lost sight of how things used to be before the internet. Its like the wild west where people seem to forget that when you respond to a comment there is a real live person at the other end with feelings. You wouldn't go up to a stranger in the street with that attitude without some sort of physical violence being the outcome. So thanks for reminding us. It needs saying. Be nice guys even if you dont agree with someone.

You gained a sub KDH. love your stuff, keep it up.

Baffles me that people who sell guitars with (or approaching) 5 figure price tags have the audacity to add a shipping cost. I just spent £15,000 on a guitar, the least you could do is ship it to me for free.

You're doing the lords work man. I really love your thoughtful approach

Right on! You really can't put it any better than that

I really like your videos because you have a conscience and take into consideration one's mental health and ability to withstand a bunch of angry or abusive "fans" blindly following the lead of a so-called YT Celebrity. Your videos are well thought out and through and they impress me because you firmly point the blame where it belongs....at those taking advantage of others, needlessly and without conscience. We are all humans with real feelings and you stand for those that can't necessarily stand for themselves, which I applaud. Great work and I look forward to more great videos. You really are an impressive gentleman!

This has been my favourite of your videos. A lot of great points and insight here.

He's the Rob Chapman of neckbeard drop tuning, even down to the feigned shock that his followers would go stir up shit. *laughs in ONLINE POWER*

Ever notice that "men with beards doing commentary" channels never really apologize? And that fake apology never reaches the audience.

I started watching your channel with the Rob Chapman audit. Ever since, you have consistently made level-headed, well-informed, mature videos which seem to be appreciated by an ever-growing many. Congrats, and keep up the excellent work.

I personally don't bother with E-drama but I do grab a large tub of popcorn and observe

I had my disappointments with Fluff and ultimately skipped him a couple of years ago. I fell into the trap of getting some of the total crap he promoted, worst of all his then signature pickups that were so amazing that he would never remove them his guitar! Well, literally they were far worse than even the stock pickups in a $300 Ibanez. Soggy, boomy and the low B string hardly 50% output of the other strings. I couldn't return them. But the final blow came when he was complaining about something in his DAW, and I mentioned that he wouldn't have such problems in Reaper. He replied with an angry, demeaning comment about Reaper being a barely functional piece of crap way below his standards. I guess I could have returned with evidence of some of the heavy weight professionals coming from other DAW's and never looking back, but this wasn't even the first time something like this happened, and the way he was talking to me for absolutely no reason at all, just turned me off enough that I never watched a video of his again. Honestly, why would I? He is obviously not credible in anything he says about gear, he just creates drama when it's not about pushing gear, downright demeaning if it's about gear he is not endorsed by, and he's a rather mediocre player and demo'er anyway. This is my personal opinion and I never said this anywhere else, I just thought it was a good opportunity, especially seeing how hard of a time he had to apologize the nonsense drama he stirred up himself with his "Dunning-Kruger" level wits!

Wow! That was a nice surprise. I came in thinking this was gonna be just another typical "give 'em shit" video and was awed with thoughtfulness and respect. What a stand-up guy! You earned a sub on that note! :)

As someone who had his channel destroyed by the type of tactic, it’s good to see the community turn around. For me, it just wasn’t worth trying to revive it and live life. I don’t think people who have never experienced it, know just how horrible 30,000 threats a day can make your life.

Everybody smash that like button.....let’s participate positively

I saw two of these videos of his. He asks people to send him these reverb listings. I just feel he should do his own work. Maybe I'm wrong, but that's how I feel.

Fluff is notorious among the staff at certain establishments in Seattle for being an aggressive drunk and harassing waitresses. Forget this guy.

So... Who's Tom Delonge?

I've been watching Fluff for years and his overall attitude has definitely changed in the last year. It's been a crap year and people deal with tough times in different ways. I just wish people's mistakes weren't exacerbated by legions of Stans attacking eachother so often. These parasocial relationships have to stop.

fluff's troll base must not even shop at reverb, or they might realize postings can be configured to automatically reject lowball offers.

Keep them honest KDH, it makes the culture of the Guitar community just a little bit healthier and less toxic

Before I watch the video I wanna guess one thing that's in it: Fluff actively sending hate from his comments into Reverb messages. EDIT: I was 100% on the money

I could see this guy dressed as a priest judging and burning witches in the 16th century

Trogly has a video that answers ALL these questions.

Top quality content again. Great points made in an engaging way. Keep it up cheers

Fluff is one of many guitar youtubers who make money by advertising products sent to them for free by manufacturers. His opinion on gear can't be trusted, as it is blatant advertisement.

Very classy. We need more of this in the world.

I find it funny that the guy in the video said "This guitar came out in 2006- at the earliest". It's funny because in 2003 Blink-182 released their Self Titled album, this album featured music videos from 2003 with Tom Delonge's signature ES-333. See "Feeling This" and "Down" by Blink-182 music videos for proof.

Subscribed for the refreshing maturity

Another cool video with a great message! Fantastic stuff 👍🏻👍🏻

Great video, I like how you rationalize things, put them in a different light by stating facts and how you urge 'the masses' not to make these mistakes.

Joke's on them for the $1 offers... most Reverb shops setup an auto-reject for offers less than some percent of the listing price.

You need some more subs because your videos are so Cool :)

Excellent video and I loved how it was resolved! Everyone keep it up!

For what it's worth, I seem to recall Tom using them as early as the Feeling This/I Miss You videos, the album they come from came out in 2004 but I'm not sure when the videos did. At that point blink was still a pretty big act so it's no unfeasible that shortly after receiving his and liking them he would give the okay to start a production model

This is a great video. One that would be nice for the entire guitar KZfaq community to reference every now and then. You're doing good work here, KDH. Cheers 🤘

This guitar definitely came out when I was getting my first guitar in high school. I subscribed to Musician’s Friend and obsessed over which guitar to get forever, like all of us do, and I can tell you this guitar came out in that 2003-2004 time period. I remember thinking how could Gibson take such a classic, flagship model and twist it into an emo Guitar? It seemed just wrong. Still does, but trust me, it did come out at that time.

Message very well portrayed ! Fluff I've always seen as a good guy, glad it was resolved as it should be. Keep up this content, Educating everyone out there who need a bit more insight into how there actions have consequences online.

Grateful for what you do mate - classy and kind. Thank you

I think it’s great that you’re shining light on this. Brilliant upload and I love your unbiased approach in providing the facts (but occasionally throwing your opinion in and making it obvious that it’s your opinion and not facts) with evidence to your claims. Thanks for helping stop the spread of misinformation

Man I'll be honest,at first I wasn't sure how to feel about this series of videos you've been doing where you expose people but I can see that you are genuinely trying to make the internet a better place and pointing out wrongdoing where it should be...you're a good dude,thank you 🤘

I worked at a music shop from 2000-2004 while I was in high school and we had a Tom Delong signature fender strat in 2003.

Fluff looks like the cowardly lion. He is always name dropping. So annoying, I can never watch a full video.

Very well said. Yes that was an incredibly important message. Reminds me of that whole Rob Chapman thing and how severely it hurt all parties involved. And the Jared Dines thing. Sometimes as viewers, especially during a global pandemic, when everybody is bored and looking for drama (Why I’ve stayed off my channel for this past year) we go above and beyond in the WORST ways for the channels we watch and the KZfaq’s we enjoy. And sometimes we speak before we think. Which is generally a bad idea in almost all area’s of life. But on the internet, it’s way too easy to hide behind our screens. I’ve been the victim of online bullying and harassment. Many times over. Often due to lack of information regarding whatever the situation was at the time. So again, this was a VERY important message. And I hope it gets to the right people. We need to be better to each other. It’s a sensitive and scary time. Thinking about your own actions and not going out of your way to hurt or damage someone, or their reputation for the hell of it, Is a good way to simply just be decent. And apply that to everyday life.

I think all your videos are on point! About time someone bring topics out like these out in the open.

KDH is like the mediator of internet music drama, most people seem to be able to agree with his unbiased and fair nature, and I appreciate that, we need more KDH minded people in this community.

Nice work dude. I've been following you since the Chappers incident. I've also been a fan of Fluff for about 4 years. This whole thing went effing sideways. Shared blame on all fronts on this one. Hopefully it ended up amicably, and we can all just get back to sharing our obsessions in peace. love/nerdiness for

Good for Fluff, glad he acted quickly to turn it around

I enjoy your videos and fluffs videos I take them for entertainment value and don’t like when any type of hate is part of them we watch the videos because we all love guitars and that’s a great thing I have learned so much about guitars from channels like these thank u guys

He always kinda comes off as a gear snob sometimes I just can’t stand him

In the video of Blink 182 - Feeling This (2003) Tom is playing the Gibson

I thought you were going to bring to light that he used to shill Panama Guitar amps/products without ever disclosing that he worked for them. I haven't watched his channel for years... is he still not disclosing paid ads guised as "reviews?" Him and Trey from GearGods are the least transparent guitar KZfaqrs. I've left comments on their channels simply asking if the video is sponsored or if the product was given to them for free because I deserve to know, and all they do is delete my comments. It's good he ended up apologizing in this instance, though!

I’m really diggin this Channel. Keep up the good work 🙂

What else is wild is the prices that the epiphone models are fetching now

I really like your take on things, I don't always agree but that just makes it fun and actually informative. I think what you did here highlights a really important thing, the doxing of people. This bullying could lead to some extremely negative outcomes and the people behind the keyboards don't seem to get this. I'm glad there are still people with integrity like you out in youtube land. Keep up the awesome content man!!!

In 2003 blink released the untitled album and in ANY live video from that era you will ALWAYS see Tom playing his signature es 333... it’s literally in the “feeling this” video... even BEFORE 2003 in box car racer he was playing a cherry red 335.

This video made me a subscriber. Very smart and very mature with a great message. Iv seen a couple of your videos so far and I'm pretty sure your gonna do great on this platform. Good on ya mate.

I might sound like a dick. Fluff lost a subscriber but you definately earned one. I feel you are a breath of fresh air in an otherwise toxic community

Cool to see someone Making it right after a mistake like grown adults

Good of you to do this! Really digging your content! Subbed.

I can’t even work out what Fluff said at the end.

This was a great video, kinda had that "southpark lesson ending" vibe to it where something insanely crazy happened.

The Trogly is a gibson expert and a SUPER nice guy like yourself. If you need Gibson info, i'd reach out to him! :)

Hey man if you need more info on Gibsons you should talk to Trogly's